I'm writing this because I think the information contained here is valuable to many people evaluating the G3 as it was to me, and it took me quite a long time to compile all this information so I could make a purchase decision.
1. Root. no problem because there are as many as 4(!) different methods depending on G3 model, and they are still valid for most current shipping firmware versions. If for some reason they are not, you can use the LG flashtool to flash back to a previous stock firmware version. I personaly used stumproot on my D850 because it was dead-simple.
2. custom recovery/bootloader/etc: (bump) this has caused alot of confusion because this 'boot loader unlock' doesn't actually touch your boot loader, but modifies the recovery so that the stock bootloader will happily boot it. At first this sounded odd to me as I was in the mindset that a proper unlocked bootloader would boot anything and not 'specially treated' images. In actuality, this is the *ideal* unlock because it's virtually risk free. Your stock bootloader is not modified, and all the images made for the G3 are going to be 'bumped' anyway. I don't know if they found a way to trick the bootloader, or if they actually got ahold of an LG signing key, but whatever it is, it works, and it's low-risk and reliable.
3. ROMS: development is already quite good with lots of roms to choose from. There's an official cyanogenmod branch for both CM11 and CM12, and there are multiple other ROMs including a great port of the international rom for the G3 which does away with most of the evil in the stock at&t rom. There's even a modified stock kernel that does away with the horrible screen sharpening issue.
Actually if you are an AT&T customer (under contract or can't afford off-contract prices), the G3 is the only option at having a phone with an unlocked bootloader. The only other option is the Nexus 6, which most people just don't like me included.
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Actually if you are an AT&T customer (under contract or can't afford off-contract prices), the G3 is the only option at having a phone with an unlocked bootloader. The only other option is the Nexus 6, which most people just don't like me included.
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I probably should have clarified that I am in fact an at&t customer, but bought my g3 off contract. Because of the constrained frequencies of the other models (not just international), I was forced to buy the D850 and got all the at&t restrictions along with it. I had no idea that this was the only unlockable option along with the N6. thanks for the extra info.
Not the only one...
Actually it's not the only AT&T option with an un-lockable bootloader. The AT&T HTC M8 is easily unlocked through HTC. Actually with the M*, you can go even further with S-Off.
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Actually it's not the only AT&T option with an un-lockable bootloader. The AT&T HTC M8 is easily unlocked through HTC. Actually with the M*, you can go even further with S-Off.
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I guess, but who wants to pay premium for a 4mp camera, 1080p 5 inch screen and the same foot print of a Note 4?
btw I did have an M8 for sometime, it went back to the store after 14 days....
I wasn't making a judgement of choice. Only speaking to the fact that it's not the only AT & T phone with an unlockable bootloader. G3's camera is unquestionably better.
I bought it a few months back but returned it and bought it again, and returned it, and bought it again and returned it.. And bought a note 4. I love my note 4 but i miss my g3. Go figure.
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Isnt the G3 a lagfest though?
Definitely isn't for me. It runs fantastic.
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Isnt the G3 a lagfest though?
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Not at all, in any way, under any circumstances. The battery life blows though, probably the only drawback for this phone. Well maybe 60 fps recording but you can mod that.
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I bought it a few months back but returned it and bought it again, and returned it, and bought it again and returned it.. And bought a note 4. I love my note 4 but i miss my g3. Go figure.
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The Note line is fantastic... but for me, G3 beats it (sorry, can only compare to the Note 3 I had) for one handed use.
Plus... running with a note bouncing in your pocket raises eyebrows with the ladies...
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Isnt the G3 a lagfest though?
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it is with stock. AOSP helps a bit but its still not as smooth as a Nexus 5 or other 1080p snapdragon 800/801 devices. in fact I hear the Nexus 6 also lags and its clocked at 2.7GHz with a snapdragon 805. its the qHD. not sure if its worth it tbh. might switch to a Oneplus One. same screen size and specs except a better battery and lower resolution screen which means longer battery and smoother performance system wide.
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it is with stock. AOSP helps a bit but its still not as smooth as a Nexus 5 or other 1080p snapdragon 800/801 devices. in fact I hear the Nexus 6 also lags and its clocked at 2.7GHz with a snapdragon 805. its the qHD. not sure if its worth it tbh. might switch to a Oneplus One. same screen size and specs except a better battery and lower resolution screen which means longer battery and smoother performance system wide.
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Funny how I posted this a while ago, you replied today and I just so happen to purchase a G3 this morning [emoji1]
I actually like it quite a bit, I was going in expecting to lag quite a bit but to my surprise its not bad at all. Its an excellent phone in my opinion.
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Which aosp Rom do you recommend xVermicide? Never tried one on this phone because I thought they were all borked in some way or another.
CM12 is great on this device. Stock kk optimus ui lags and stutters but stock lollipop doesn't and neither does CM12. It's got great specs and its beautiful. What more could u want
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Which aosp Rom do you recommend xVermicide? Never tried one on this phone because I thought they were all borked in some way or another.
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CM12. I wouldn't recommend anything but the D850 nightlies. however CM12 in general has been known to break a feature or two, on ANY device (lollipop is just weird) from one nightly to another. so I recommend not flashing every single nightly that releases and maybe watch the CM change log: http://www.cmxlog.com/12/d850/ and just flash the ones that include big features. read below for a fix for all lag.
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Funny how I posted this a while ago, you replied today and I just so happen to purchase a G3 this morning [emoji1]
I actually like it quite a bit, I was going in expecting to lag quite a bit but to my surprise its not bad at all. Its an excellent phone in my opinion.
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I found a fix for 100% of the lag. before, I was using a thermal mod found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363 but it basically overheats the phone 15-20°C too high which is extremely uncomfortable when considering owning this phone for 2-3 years having it constantly be so hot it burns you. however this mod does work on both stock LG and AOSP.
but a better fix is to flash CM12 (not sure about other AOSP roms) and flash a kernel that supports GPU over clocking. im running CM12 3/01 nightly and 777kernel with no other mods, no thermal changes, I simply kept CPU at 2.49GHz and i OC'd my GPU from 330 to 580MHz and 100% of all lag disappeared and now my G3 is buttery smooth like my Nexus 5 was. and my phone stays very cool instead of constantly overheating. please try this, I'm positive it will give you a perfect smooth AOSP experience as if you're using a 1080p device. this kernel is AOSP only. to over clock GPU on stock, we need a kernel that supports it and that won't be any time soon.
make sure you enable "Force GPU rendering" in developer options.
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CM12. I wouldn't recommend anything but the D850 nightlies. however CM12 in general has been known to break a feature or two, on ANY device (lollipop is just weird) from one nightly to another. so I recommend not flashing every single nightly that releases and maybe watch the CM change log: http://www.cmxlog.com/12/d850/ and just flash the ones that include big features. read below for a fix for all lag.
I found a fix for 100% of the lag. before, I was using a thermal mod found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363 but it basically overheats the phone 15-20°C too high which is extremely uncomfortable when considering owning this phone for 2-3 years having it constantly be so hot it burns you. however this mod does work on both stock LG and AOSP.
but a better fix is to flash CM12 (not sure about other AOSP roms) and flash a kernel that supports GPU over clocking. im running CM12 3/01 nightly and 777kernel with no other mods, no thermal changes, I simply kept CPU at 2.49GHz and i OC'd my GPU from 330 to 580MHz and 100% of all lag disappeared and now my G3 is buttery smooth like my Nexus 5 was. and my phone stays very cool instead of constantly overheating. please try this, I'm positive it will give you a perfect smooth AOSP experience as if you're using a 1080p device. this kernel is AOSP only. to over clock GPU on stock, we need a kernel that supports it and that won't be any time soon.
make sure you enable "Force GPU rendering" in developer options.
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Thanks for the tip[emoji3] . I don't keep phones for long anyways plus I plan on getting the S6 or maybe the M9 at launch so I won't be needing it. Besides, in very pleased with LG's UI with lollipop, it runs nicely.
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Thanks for the tip[emoji3] . I don't keep phones for long anyways plus I plan on getting the S6 or maybe the M9 at launch so I won't be needing it. Besides, in very pleased with LG's UI with lollipop, it runs nicely.
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you're using stock lollipop not rooted?
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you're using stock lollipop not rooted?
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Yes, AT&T version. I'm happy
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oh ok. for a second I thought you were rooted.
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After having 2 nexus devices I'm kind of rooted/rom'd out and want to enjoy the stock experience. I'm having trouble choosing between the Moto X and the Nexus 5. Is there no reason in getting the nexus 5 being that I'm not interested in rooting it?
The Nexus 5 looks to be a very good phone even stock and at a cheaper price that the Moto X. You can also still root and still use the stock rom.
won't really matter if you root or not. it's your choice. you can still get the n5 even if you don't plan on rooting it. i've done full stock for several nexus units already and they all work pretty well for me. i still get the occasional itch though.
I am watching this phone although I chose the Moto X. LG G2 has some issues ala microphone. Recording , speaker phone to name a few. This is basically a lg g2 with a lesser camera so. I want to see what's up in the first 6 months.
I have a Nexus 4 and used to rum cm10.2 but it was so unstable and never quite ran well. As of 2 months ago i reverted back to stock rom bootloader locked and it was th best thing ive done. The phone runs so much more stable and smoother and im also getting better battery life. It also seems quicker.
For me it was a waste of time rooting when the stock experience it what i think better.
When i get my Nexus 5 its staying stock
Cool to see I won't be the only one.
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I have a Nexus 4 and used to rum cm10.2 but it was so unstable and never quite ran well. As of 2 months ago i reverted back to stock rom bootloader locked and it was th best thing ive done. The phone runs so much more stable and smoother and im also getting better battery life. It also seems quicker.
For me it was a waste of time rooting when the stock experience it what i think better.
When i get my Nexus 5 its staying stock
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I had the same problem this guy had did the same thing and felt the same way so when I get my n5 also it will stay stock.
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I was using stock 4.3 on my N4 before going to the Samsung S4.. I honestly miss stock on my S4, TouchWiz is terrible. I'd at least root the device though, for privileges!
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I was using stock 4.3 on my N4 before going to the Samsung S4.. I honestly miss stock on my S4, TouchWiz is terrible. I'd at least root the device though, for privileges!
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Exactly! I plan on on rooting it (privileges and apps) but staying on stock and not flashing.
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I was running stock rooted on my N4 for a while but ultimately ended up throwing PA on there. There are some nice features that I miss in stock... quick settings pulldown with one finger, single tap to toggle wifi/bluetooth, etc... I'm sure i'll end up doing the same with my 5 if I decide to buy it.
Just want root to get rid of adds
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Just want root to get rid of ads
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I would go nexus 5. moto x is already several months old and support on the device will not last like it will for n5. Additionally if you decide to root down the road when support stops (for either device) the n5 will still have developer support.
I'll likely root it but stay stock. I'll probably also run Ubuntu Touch on it from time to time
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After having 2 nexus devices I'm kind of rooted/rom'd out and want to enjoy the stock experience. I'm having trouble choosing between the Moto X and the Nexus 5. Is there no reason in getting the nexus 5 being that I'm not interested in rooting it?
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I can answer your question with another question:
Are you interested in running latest Android version and getting latest updates first? As well as being able to get updates 2 years from now if you still have the device.
Would like pentaband 3G and LTE on your device?
A device with better camera, higher screen resolution, better specification making it more future proof than the Moto X, all this while being cheaper and required no contract?
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Just want root to get rid of adds
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Here you go, ads blocking without root: https://adblockplus.org/en/android
It might cause some app to not work though.
Stock 4.4 rom and Franco kernel will be a heavenly combo, best you`ll ever get and also with color- and soundcontrol :good: AdAaway will get rid of those annoying ads.
To your original question, the Nexus 5 would be the better choice.
1) Cheaper price.
2) Immediate / first OTA updates.
3) Better screen resolution - 1080p vs 720p
4) Processor - snapdragon 800 vs snapdragon S4 Pro.
Honestly I can't think of one thing the Moto X has over the Nexus 5. You want stock? Why not stock 4.4? What about any new Android releases? Gotta get a ported AOSP version if you want it right away...
Nexus 5 should be the best stock device of all time, no bloatware, faster updates etc.
Everything above is the reason I want the Nexus 5. Beside the fact that its minimally beautiful. I do have Verizon but my Nexus 4 on Aio. Verizon does have the best service for my location and the only working service at my home.
I truly believe that the moto x will receive fairly quick updates. Do I think they will be available the same day google releases an update.....no, very soon thereafter, yes. :good:
Now, which is the better device, the moto x or the Nexus 5, Nexus 5. The only reason I would say buy the moto x over the Nexus 5 is because you want a smaller form factor, which some people prefer.
I had the nexus 4 for awhile and switched over to the iphone 5 once it did 3g on my carrier. I played with almost all higher end android phones rooting/ custom roms and was really always wanting more. I believe I went through probably 15-20 phones selling and trading . Grew very tired of it!!! I've had the iphone 5 for the past 6-7 months purchased from apple and I am happy with it. Nexus 5 I am looking to purchase but most likely wont be tinkering with roms or anything, I hope not.
Wife will get the iphone 5 , which has apple warranty on it and Ill probably sell her iphone 4s unlocked with a mophie case for $300 or so. So hopefully Ill enjoy the nexus 5 and the android os again.
So I decided as soon as it went live today....I ordered the Nexus 5. Super excited. Hopefully won't be disappointed.
I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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leeston2379 said:
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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What do you mean by ''locked down phone'' ? As for ''bloated device'' and ''poorly updated'' , I completely agree. I love OTA updates !
No. Why would I? It’s not a Nexus. It’ll likely be great hardware with no-so-great Samsung software, as usual.
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I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.
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Galaxy S5 will be saddled with Touchwiz. Even the recent 'leaks' of what might be the new Touchwiz were pretty gawd-awful to me. It will be significantly more expensive than the Nexus 5 unlocked, and will be locked down hard on AT&T and Verizon. Bigger than 5" screen is a non-starter for me. N5 is just about perfect size for me. It will probably have a better camera app but the individual pixels on the sensor are going to be tiny, probably leading to fairly poor low light performance. S5 will probably have a larger battery, but I doubt they'll be getting 3000+ mAh. Even if it gets Snapdragon 805, I doubt it will perform a ton better than the N5 due to software and TW 'feature' overload.
Coming from the DNA, s3, and note 2, absolutely not. The Samsung 4.3 ota locked the s3/note 2 hard. All new phones will ship this way.
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I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.
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Why is this a thread? Shouldn't this be in the samsung section of XDA, where I dare not venture?
megapixels don't matter by the way on a standard photo that 90% of people take, store, and share.
I have the S4 now and will be getting the n5 this week. The main reason i'm switching is because the galaxy series bootloaders are locked and no one has found a way to bypass them. I've been using safestrap but its not the same.
The pure Android experience is the way to go. Updates right when they are released, No bloatware, and a free to modify phone with no locks on it.
Nope! Nexus FTW
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are you crazy??? after using nexus i'll never go back samsung and their lousy touchwiz and their bloody knox.
leeston2379 said:
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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Same. Coming from a AT&T Galaxy S4 I can say this x100. Never again a Samsung product. The only S4 feature, and feature from the S5, is AMOLED, and for the S5 the 2K display. However the camera on the Nexus 5 is superior to the S4 I had, at least I get WAY better photos. I will never buy a Non-Nexus Android phone again. Although iPhone6 may tempt me.
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Shouldn't this be in the samsung section of XDA?
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agreed.
and you guys are all looking at this wrong. this will be a great device as long as you purchase the unlocked/google play edition. no bootloader crap. as far as firmware goes, that can be changed. my rooted S4, with twrp and everything else this nexus has, including a superb aosp-based rom and kernel, was a thing of beauty. i expect some big power and solid support for the international and unlocked variants.
stop looking at carrier variants.
stop judging a device based on its shipped firmware.
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
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and for the S5 the 2K display
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technically, any device that is 1920x1080 is "2K"...only like 80 pixels shy of it. close enough. tech industry should refer to higher spec displays as 2.5K, really.
Might do, depends how it's built. I'm already a bit bored of my Nexus 5 and I think Android is getting to a point where the leaps in software are less and less. I've even gone back to stock and relocked my bootloader I'm that happy with stock Android!
We'll see once it's released but never say never...one thing is us UK users won't face the same issues as you carrier-branded US users will as our bootloaders will be easy to sort out so that's a moot point over here
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stop looking at carrier variants.
stop judging a device based on its shipped firmware.
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The S4 Google Play edition was not available on Google Play for almost 3 months since it was released. I bought my AT&T Branded one in late May 2013, and I believe July the Google Edition came out. So they aren't out right away. Likewise you have to judge a device by it's shipped firmware, as in some cases like the AT&T Galaxy S4, with the inability to downgrade firmware versions, if you're device shipped with "AMF3" firmware or newer, you're stuck because Loki was patched and you cannot get around the locked bootloader. With no guarantee of a Google Play Edition version, there may be no way around it. As the International version (Such as the I-9505) are not available for sale to consumers directly in the US, some people haven no choice but to use the carrier branded versions.
This is my first nexus phone ... i came from a galaxy s4 and i also love the nexus5. It's a phone that you can pratically say you will get the update exactly when it released from google.
samsung sucks donkey **** :good:
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The S4 Google Play edition was not available on Google Play for almost 3 months since it was released. I bought my AT&T Branded one in late May 2013, and I believe July the Google Edition came out. So they aren't out right away. Likewise you have to judge a device by it's shipped firmware, as in some cases like the AT&T Galaxy S4, with the inability to downgrade firmware versions, if you're device shipped with "AMF3" firmware or newer, you're stuck because Loki was patched and you cannot get around the locked bootloader. With no guarantee of a Google Play Edition version, there may be no way around it. As the International version (Such as the I-9505) are not available for sale to consumers directly in the US, some people haven no choice but to use the carrier branded versions.
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there will be a GPE edition or at least an LTE-enabled unlocked variant. my comment on the shipped firmware and my entire response in general was aimed at this particular edition of the S5. if you're an international user or north american user with the unlocked LTE model, you wont be dealing with the bootloader issues and, again, the shipped OS wont matter. that can be changed.
I'm not interested in going back to Samsung devices. I spent too much time switching ROMs, trying to get an AOSP(ish) experience from my S3. There were always things that didn't work, and the battery life was sh*t as well. Since getting this phone I've stayed on the same ROM for ages, and it has no bugs. None. I don't have to waste my time any more. A 2k screen (even if it is AMOLED, which I love) and an extra gig of RAM isn't worth the trade-offs.
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With the G3, oneplus one, nexus 6 all around the corner...is this phone still worth upgrading to? I am currently on the nexus 4 and want to upgrade my phone. The G2 on swappa is ~300 and the oneplus one is going to be around that much too as well as the nexus 6 hopefully. How's the development/support of this phone overall? Is it something that developers and community will stay with or probably jump ship to the next big thing? Thanks for your input.
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With the G3, oneplus one, nexus 6 all around the corner...is this phone still worth upgrading to? I am currently on the nexus 4 and want to upgrade my phone. The G2 on swappa is ~300 and the oneplus one is going to be around that much too as well as the nexus 6 hopefully. How's the development/support of this phone overall? Is it something that developers and community will stay with or probably jump ship to the next big thing? Thanks for your input.
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I have a G2 now, and am using a Oppo Find 7a for testing. And i'll tell you this, in about 4 days i'll be going BACK to the G2; its an amazing phone. The size to screen ratio is untouched. The camera is by far the best in a smartphone. Built in OIS (and not just software OIS) is something that once you see how it works, you'll wonder why more OEM's dont put this in their cameras. LG's version of Android is also very good, however i'll be rooting and flashing a custom ROM once i go back to it. Its honestly still the phone i most recommend to friends and family, you wont be dissapointed at all.
Plus! since its only $300, you know it wont go down too much more in price so you will probably get close to your money back if you decide you want the nexus 6 down the line anyway .
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I have a G2 now, and am using a Oppo Find 7a for testing. And i'll tell you this, in about 4 days i'll be going BACK to the G2; its an amazing phone. The size to screen ratio is untouched. The camera is by far the best in a smartphone. Built in OIS (and not just software OIS) is something that once you see how it works, you'll wonder why more OEM's dont put this in their cameras. LG's version of Android is also very good, however i'll be rooting and flashing a custom ROM once i go back to it. Its honestly still the phone i most recommend to friends and family, you wont be dissapointed at all.
Plus! since its only $300, you know it wont go down too much more in price so you will probably get close to your money back if you decide you want the nexus 6 down the line anyway .
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Hi, thanks so much for your input. Is it because the screen of the oppo is too big and the camera is inferior? Also, what rom are you flashing? There aren't too many roms for the g2.
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Hi, thanks so much for your input. Is it because the screen of the oppo is too big and the camera is inferior? Also, what rom are you flashing? There aren't too many roms for the g2.
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i wouldn't say the camera is 'inferior', its still a very good camera on the 7a; but the G2 is just a little better. And having OIS is awesome. i'm looking at the Sonic Open kang project ROM. from the thread it seems very stable.
The one phablet that can go toe to toe with the Note 3, high end specs, great camera, great building quality and there is one ROM for it and as yet not an easy root method. Bugger all threads.
Why is no one loving this phone?
Rooting can be done via towelroot. No custom recoveries or roms though..
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Agreed, i owned a Note 3, sold it for this and have not looked back. I like it more rooted to, xposed and text droider dpi are great root apps for this phone
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Rooting can be done via towelroot. No custom recoveries or roms though..
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And that's the killer
And also raises the question, why the bloody hell not.
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And that's the killer
And also raises the question, why the bloody hell not.
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I'm wondering the same. My phone will be delivered shortly. But it seems that this will be my first Android phone without CyanogenMod. I can't believe this.I have already asked Ricardo with a pm but no reaction yet. May be somebody knows him better and could ask him to make a recovery and start a CM project for our sweet device? The hardware does not much differ from the G2 isn't it?
The problem is that LG decided to implement a stupidly secure boot loader, without an unlockable boot loader, not much development can happen. Being the flashing addict I am, I'm gonna sell mine and but an Xperia Z Ultra
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The problem is that LG decided to implement a stupidly secure boot loader, without an unlockable boot loader, not much development can happen. Being the flashing addict I am, I'm gonna sell mine and but an Xperia Z Ultra
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I guess the G3 has the same issue? So someone will find a solution soon I hope. Please @shellnut2
Becuase it isn't sold in the US which is where a lot of people in this site are from. I really wanted this device but got the g3 instead.
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Becuase it isn't sold in the US which is where a lot of people in this site are from. I really wanted this device but got the g3 instead.
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I don't understand that business decision. Why would you not sell in one of the biggest cell phone markets?
Not releasing it in America is mostly the problem, without American developers getting their hands on it, no development can really happen. Not a smart move by LG is my opinion.
I have got my hands on one now.. and hopefully not very soon , but soon will be releasing something...
I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
OK Here we go
check out the Android dev section I am uploading a first custom ROM for our D838 Model
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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Welcome back!!! :good: I love this smartphone but the only thing I regret there are updates. LG has forgotten this phone, is stopped alla 10f for several months without correcting the bug. I hope LG has not forgotten this beautiful smartphone..the best!
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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That is so true. I couldn't resist to try the G3 too. But I really regret this choice. the D838 is so smooth and fast in everything. Even the camera is very fast and makes really nice pictures. The camera of the G3 is for my idea not any better and the phone itself is lagging everywhere. I have the 32GB version and the extra RAM doesn't make a difference. Like you said the CPU or the GPU isn't enough to make this device to what it had should been. I'm now on vacation but when I'm back home I will immediately sell the G3 and keep my Pro 2.
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That is so true. I couldn't resist to try the G3 too. But I really regret this choice. the D838 is so smooth and fast in everything. Even the camera is very fast and makes really nice pictures. The camera of the G3 is for my idea not any better and the phone itself is lagging everywhere. I have the 32GB version and the extra RAM doesn't make a difference. Like you said the CPU or the GPU isn't enough to make this device to what it had should been. I'm now on vacation but when I'm back home I will immediately sell the G3 and keep my Pro 2.
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I found it really hard to admit it to myself after the investment. I so wanted to love the device The G3 forum is full of people in denial.
I really can't see why people don't like this phone...it's amazing...
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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I've had my LG G Pro 2 32GB for a couple of months now, it's the best phone I've had since my Sony Xperia Z Ultra 16GB. But now it's time to move on to another device so put it up for sale on Ebay at a bargain price. It's a shame LG messed up the D83810F update, looking forward to G Pro 3 if LG bother with it. I will say that I won't be rushing out to by the G3.
I hope a custom recovery will release for this phone soon, after that many Rom will appear!
cannot agree more , I am on the same camp got G3 , sold and took the G pro 2 hahha
Hello, xda'ers!
I have a fairly simple question. S4 is my first smartphone and I love it. At first I hated it because of TW, but now I converted it to basically a GP edition with Danvdh's ROM. Very smooth, haven't seen any lag since the day I flashed it.
The only thing why I'm considering N5 is because of its future proofness. (SD800, A330 instead of S4's SD600 and A320). I consider myself between average and power user. I like to game here and there and so on.
-Non-removable battery
-No SD slot
-Smaller battery
-Weaker camera
+Way better specs
+Constant updates straight from Google
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess)
It all comes down to this: I want N5 because of better specs, updates, dev support and that's it. I've read many articles on these both devices and haven't clearly decided yet, because most of them go for N5 even with all the cons I mentioned. For me, battery life and SD slot (if it's 16GB version) is the most important.
How many of you guys have ditched S4 over the N5? Could you please share your experience and whether if you regret it?
The specs aren't that much better. There's kind of half a generation between them. The One plus would be a more logical step up
Also we only have 9 months left of official updates on the N5. Not sure what you mean by "constant updates". It doesn't get constant updates. It gets fast updates. But not constant. It only gets the minor updates. E.g it got 4.4.2, 4.4.3, 4.4.4. It got nothing in between
It has good developer support but after 9 months when no one is officially updating the official drivers, its going to be like any other unsupported device.
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I just suggest you to wait for a while
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How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Its fine. In every respect
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Its fine. In every respect
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I had an S3
I cannot recommend any phone over any other phone to some one else as the things I like about it are completely subjective buy I will say for me, I would definitely not want an S4 and would prefer the N5
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ask someone who has a N5 if you can try it for a minute
Yep the galaxy nexus is a great example Google doesn't support it so roms aren't as stable and my nexus 5 will be the same way although the nexus 5 will be a lot less laggy
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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It seems like cons weighs more than pros, at least for me. Well, I might wait for the Nexus 6, but since I live in EU, the price will be super high (instead of $350, it will cost at least $500 in where I live) I have a chance to sell my S4 for 300 euros right now, and brand new N5 (16gb) costs from 277 here.
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-Non-removable battery -do you even need that(get a juice battery pack and done)?
-No SD slot -32Gb will be fine how much can you put into a phone?
-Smaller battery -yes,but with custom per-app profiles
-Weaker camera -i like it,really fine pictures (my opinion)
+Way better specs -idk what to say here...i'm really pleased with the N5 in terms of gaming,smooth,stability.
+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess) -there is already Android L developer preview
I had iphone before and Nexus was the only android phone that made me ditch the iOS for Android.Had a samsung for a few weeks(hate it) then tryed the Nexus and love it!
Go into a store and try the phone before buy.Idk what to say against S4 didn't used it for long time to give an opinion.
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+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
I had S2,S3,S4 and must say all of this phones where very good (all rooted and on custom roms ). Them my wife got a present and its was a brand new nexus 5. To shorten my story> From that moment that I powered on nexus 5 I never took S4 in my hand ever again. Feels faster,more manly (i have black one), and battery is better or same as S4 + much more fun coz its much easy-er to go from one custom rom to another and it doesn't have that KNOX security sh1t.
Cheers!
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Maybe, but I wouldn't rely on that.