Ditch S4 over N5? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, xda'ers!
I have a fairly simple question. S4 is my first smartphone and I love it. At first I hated it because of TW, but now I converted it to basically a GP edition with Danvdh's ROM. Very smooth, haven't seen any lag since the day I flashed it.
The only thing why I'm considering N5 is because of its future proofness. (SD800, A330 instead of S4's SD600 and A320). I consider myself between average and power user. I like to game here and there and so on.
-Non-removable battery
-No SD slot
-Smaller battery
-Weaker camera
+Way better specs
+Constant updates straight from Google
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess)
It all comes down to this: I want N5 because of better specs, updates, dev support and that's it. I've read many articles on these both devices and haven't clearly decided yet, because most of them go for N5 even with all the cons I mentioned. For me, battery life and SD slot (if it's 16GB version) is the most important.
How many of you guys have ditched S4 over the N5? Could you please share your experience and whether if you regret it?

The specs aren't that much better. There's kind of half a generation between them. The One plus would be a more logical step up
Also we only have 9 months left of official updates on the N5. Not sure what you mean by "constant updates". It doesn't get constant updates. It gets fast updates. But not constant. It only gets the minor updates. E.g it got 4.4.2, 4.4.3, 4.4.4. It got nothing in between
It has good developer support but after 9 months when no one is officially updating the official drivers, its going to be like any other unsupported device.
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I just suggest you to wait for a while
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How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Ritvars said:
How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Its fine. In every respect
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rootSU said:
Its fine. In every respect
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?

Ritvars said:
I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I had an S3
I cannot recommend any phone over any other phone to some one else as the things I like about it are completely subjective buy I will say for me, I would definitely not want an S4 and would prefer the N5
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Ritvars said:
I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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jd1639 said:
Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ritvars said:
Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ask someone who has a N5 if you can try it for a minute

Yep the galaxy nexus is a great example Google doesn't support it so roms aren't as stable and my nexus 5 will be the same way although the nexus 5 will be a lot less laggy
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.

Doobski said:
My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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It seems like cons weighs more than pros, at least for me. Well, I might wait for the Nexus 6, but since I live in EU, the price will be super high (instead of $350, it will cost at least $500 in where I live) I have a chance to sell my S4 for 300 euros right now, and brand new N5 (16gb) costs from 277 here.
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-Non-removable battery -do you even need that(get a juice battery pack and done)?
-No SD slot -32Gb will be fine how much can you put into a phone?
-Smaller battery -yes,but with custom per-app profiles
-Weaker camera -i like it,really fine pictures (my opinion)
+Way better specs -idk what to say here...i'm really pleased with the N5 in terms of gaming,smooth,stability.
+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess) -there is already Android L developer preview
I had iphone before and Nexus was the only android phone that made me ditch the iOS for Android.Had a samsung for a few weeks(hate it) then tryed the Nexus and love it!
Go into a store and try the phone before buy.Idk what to say against S4 didn't used it for long time to give an opinion.

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+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.

I had S2,S3,S4 and must say all of this phones where very good (all rooted and on custom roms ). Them my wife got a present and its was a brand new nexus 5. To shorten my story> From that moment that I powered on nexus 5 I never took S4 in my hand ever again. Feels faster,more manly (i have black one), and battery is better or same as S4 + much more fun coz its much easy-er to go from one custom rom to another and it doesn't have that KNOX security sh1t.
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rootSU said:
Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.

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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Maybe, but I wouldn't rely on that.

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Help choosing a phone..

Hi
I'm planning to move on from my SGS 2 to a newer model.. but I'm not able to make up my mind.
I'm interested in the 4G SGS 3 though I've been thinking about the next nexus phone from LG or the upcoming HTC One X+...
My current phone is working perfectly fine but I'm looking for a phone with more speed as well as with 4G/LTE..
Should I wait it out for early next year to have better choices or should I just go in for the SGS 3?
By the way, Samsung is my preferred manufacturer, followed by HTC.. I've no idea how LG phones are in terms of build quality, support, etc.
Thanks in advance. Cheers.
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Hi
I'm planning to move on from my SGS 2 to a newer model.. but I'm not able to make up my mind.
I'm interested in the 4G SGS 3 though I've been thinking about the next nexus phone from LG or the upcoming HTC One X+...
My current phone is working perfectly fine but I'm looking for a phone with more speed as well as with 4G/LTE..
Should I wait it out for early next year to have better choices or should I just go in for the SGS 3?
By the way, Samsung is my preferred manufacturer, followed by HTC.. I've no idea how LG phones are in terms of build quality, support, etc.
Thanks in advance. Cheers.
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Take SGS3. I dont why but take it
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With all of the new nexus phone getting ready to be unveiled I would wait it out and see what sticks
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Thanks.. I like the SGS3 a lot, though it's just so difficult to decide on one phone...
By the way, here in Finland, we have a deal going on for the Galaxy Nexus, with the current price of 370€ (http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/s?s=1&q=51397+or+23156) and is valid until next Monday 21.10 and this seems to be the best deal in Finland at the moment. The standard price is ~450€ I think...
Is there any sense is getting the Galaxy Nexus considering there are the newer Nexus devices coming up? In particular HTC “J Butterfly” Nexus 5 (along with the LG Nexus as mentioned previously)?
Thanks again. Cheers...
Edit: Also, regarding the processor, I'm no expert but from the reviews and reports, I see there are the Tegra 3 processors (like the one in HTC One X+) or the Qualcomm 'snapdragon' processors or Exynos processors and similar... Which is the better one? Should I chose a device that comes with a specific processor if I want to have a speedy, fast, high end phone?
And of course, I would like a manufacturer that regularly updates the OS without major delays whenever a new Android is being released...
Well I have the nexus, and that price is very very high. Ofcourse it is new from store but I have my nexus for 275 euro's. Second hand but only 6 month's old. Great phone but if I were you, I should wait for the gs4. Depends on how fast you need a phone, considering the gs4 is coming out in march 2013. If you can't wait I should definately buy the HTC one X+ or the GS3.
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Go and buy SGS3, i liek it too very much and i wan't buy him, but first i want to sale my currently phone
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Well I have the nexus, and that price is very very high. Ofcourse it is new from store but I have my nexus for 275 euro's. Second hand but only 6 month's old. Great phone but if I were you, I should wait for the gs4. Depends on how fast you need a phone, considering the gs4 is coming out in march 2013. If you can't wait I should definately buy the HTC one X+ or the GS3.
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Thanks a lot.
I'm not in a real hurry to get a new phone as my current SGS2 is working great (and there is a possibility that JB will arrive soon for the SGS2)... But I just wanted to kind of 'upgrade' from the SGS2 to a more powerful, newer phone... Hence my questions regarding should I really wait (though I understand it's a kind of silly question considering how many new devices keep popping up every month) or just go in for a model such as the SGS3 or HTC One X+ that's been proven to be a great phone....
Basically I can wait for the new one.. I'm looking at having a new one by March/April 2013.
If you can wait just wait Mate, I know your feelings so many new phones but can't choose a good one and every time there is coming a new one out.
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Background:
I have just bought a Motorola Defy Plus. The reason I purchased it was - I wanted a phone that could allow me t record work calls and Defy Plus seemed promising as it enjoys good amount of support in the developers here and it was like very cheap. Now when I see the work involved in rooting and flashing custom rom I find myself not too sure about my capability of managing the whole process. Even if I do manage the rooting and flashing the custom rom, I still do not have any definitive information if call recording will be possible
New search:
Given the above now I am exploring any other phones that will allow me to take care of this requirement of recording my calls incoming and outgoing , without speaker, in the stock straight out of the box condition. Besides this particular requirement my usage of the phone is very mundane - some voice calls, minimal texting , little bit of email, no games , minimal camera, once in a while a couple of minutes of music if ever.
So if any of you can give me a suggestion i.e. which phone and which app - if you have a working combo - which will solve my problem shall appreciate it very much.
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Wait, even if the nexus devices aren't to your liking they are going to drive the price of current devices down. I have the SGS3 but sources / docs for exynos processors are sketchy so support isn't stellar. TBH if support matters go with nexus although you'll have to sacrifice sd support.
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Wait, even if the nexus devices aren't to your liking they are going to drive the price of current devices down. I have the SGS3 but sources / docs for exynos processors are sketchy so support isn't stellar. TBH if support matters go with nexus although you'll have to sacrifice sd support.
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SD support meaning expandable SD card support/feature?
Well.. that's another thing I'd like to have (I forgot to mention before)... I need a phone that will enable me expand my storage with an external SD card.
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SD support meaning expandable SD card support/feature?
Well.. that's another thing I'd like to have (I forgot to mention before)... I need a phone that will enable me expand my storage with an external SD card.
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That's the current HTC range ruled out then.
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Yes.. missed this when checking out the HTC phones..
I think I'll wait it out or get the SGS 3 if I feel I'm in a hurry.
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fonduekid said:
Yes.. missed this when checking out the HTC phones..
I think I'll wait it out or get the SGS 3 if I feel I'm in a hurry.
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Me too
Forget the galaxy nexus it is getting a little bit old i decided to go ahead whit the s3 and i have no complaints..
Speed is awesome
Battery life gets me from 9am to 11pm depending on how you/i use it.
Camera is good ( there is noise in low light shots )
Build quality is the same as the s2 ..
I dont know why but i got a feeling that lg making a nexus will be a mess..
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I would recommend the G3. You can wait for the next phone to come up but you'll find that there is always a new phone about to be launched so you can wait forever. I've recently transitioned to the g3 and enjoy it very much. Liked it a lot better once I rooted and put a JB rom on it.
I'd go with a sgs3
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I'd go with a sgs3
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Personally I struggle to wait, but seriously we are talking days here and once the nexus is announced the prices of the current flagship devices is going to come down.
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[Q] Bought the Nexus 4 for GF. Bad move?

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GF decided she wants to buy the N5 so I sold the N4 on craigslist!
If you are trying to keep costs down. The nexus 4 is fine..
Thanks. Is the nexus 4 still considered a relevant phone for at least another year?
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Thanks. Is the nexus 4 still considered a relevant phone for at least another year?
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I think so, as it will be supported by Google for at least another year and some new phones like the One Max have still almost the same processor built in.
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I think so, as it will be supported by Google for at least another year and some new phones like the One Max have still almost the same processor built in.
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Good point. from what I understand, the only reason why Google stop supporting the Nexus S, is because it did not have enough RAM. Google is pretty good on their software updates on their older flagships. I think this is a good buy..
if worse comes to worst, I can always sell the phone for a pretty good price. I notice these Nexus phone hold their value very well.
u bought it already and not bad choice if ur gf is into gaming and stuff or into phones n5 would be better even im thinking to keep n4 but u know... I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!! it isn't out yet anyway dont worry: n4 is great phone
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Thanks. Is the nexus 4 still considered a relevant phone for at least another year?
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If the Nexus 5 wasn't just about to be released and I wasn't an upgrade-aholic, the Nexus 4 would be my go-to phone. It's that good.
You probably should have asked this in the Nexus 4 forum.
It's a Nexus, Google will support it for more than another year. They only stopped supporting the two earliest Nexus since it lacks the hardware to run the new OS and ability to receive such large over the air updates (low ram and too small /system partition to hold the system files). The Nexus 4 is a powerful device I wouldn't be surprised if it'll get updates for atleast 2 more years. If it wasn't for needing the best spec or playing high graphical games, the Nexus 4 will probably work fine for another 3 years. It still get Android version earlier than any other non-Nexus devices, although the battery life and camera quality might not be up to standard anymore. Gaming is only a problem because of the thermal throttling which kicks in at 39*C, but if you flash custom kernel you can raise it to 60*C or higher.
The Nexus 4 does have Band 4 LTE that works with T-Mobile if you flash the LTE compatible baseband.
The Galaxy Nexus is still being supported by Google as of now, so I think the Nexus 4 will be good for quite a while.
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StatusQuo209 said:
I'm getting the N5. My GF has a crappy HTC One VX and I got her a Nexus 4 16GB for 240 out the door. She is paying me the difference after I sell her VX.
I know there is no LTE on the N4 but She doesn't use much mobile data... She only has 300 mb on her plan.
I'm going to be flashing CarbonRom and Franco kernel on it and let her tinker with it. Shes starting to get into this android thing lolol. She rooted her locked bootloader Samsung tablet herself lol.
After taxes and shipping the N5 would come out to about 400 bucks. That's 160 more than the N4...
Now the main question is, how does the N4 compare to new phones out now? Does it still hold it's own? Was this a good buy for her? I mean we are trying to keep costs down for her.
Mind you, I have never even held a N4. Its still in the mail
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I think the bad move is making her pay you back....
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I think the bad move is making her pay you back....
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Where did I say I'm "making" her pay me back?
You must be mistaken. She wants the Nexus 4 and doesn't want to go through the hassle of selling her current phone: so ill sell it for her. She is buying her own phone with her own cash. Her VX is irritating her. I'm just doing all the buying and selling and moneywork.
Well I have some news: she decided to get the Nexus 5 as well. I sold the Nexus 4 on craigslist and made profit.
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I think the bad move is making her pay you back....
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this :good:
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She is paying me the difference after I sell her VX.
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...............:highfive:
Bad move, yes. Only a 100 dollars extra for upto date tech, I would have waited. But each to his own.
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Bad move, yes. Only a 100 dollars extra for upto date tech, I would have waited. But each to his own.
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If you read my post above, she decided to get the Nexus 5 instead.
So I sold the nexus 4.
Sorry, jus read the OP. Good move, by the girl.
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Na man the N4 sounds like a great phone for her, she doesn't sound like a power user so i don't think she would see much difference between the N4 and the N5 and the N4 will get all the least updates for the next year or two so its all good man.
I agree with lqrt here for the cost the nexus is fine. If she's getting into the whole android thing " jealous by the way" she will enjoying the nexus 4 because there are lots and lots of hacks for it now if you got a nexus 5 it would take a good while for alot of hacks to come to soak up like a sponge with water lol
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I agree with lqrt here for the cost the nexus is fine. If she's getting into the whole android thing " jealous by the way" she will enjoying the nexus 4 because there are lots and lots of hacks for it now if you got a nexus 5 it would take a good while for alot of hacks to come to soak up like a sponge with water lol
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Sorry, but I can't see the Playstore from my location. Is the N4 still for sale?
Yes it is! But soon the nexus 5 will take its place
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Yes it is! But soon the nexus 5 will take its place
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What is the 16GB model priced at? Is the reduced price still available?

Nexus 5 or LG G2 ?

What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
I was in the same dilemma.
I decided to go for the Nexus 5 because its a Nexus.
The main difference in hardware between the two for me is the screen size. I wanted the bigger screen on the G2.
But I decided I want to pay less and get a device with better software
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What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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The nexus is pure stock android which is fully stable .
On benchmarks it benches better than the G2 and is much cheaper.
If you love stock android then the Nexus 5 is the greatest phone you can currently get.
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Also don't try to use the term CFW (Custom Firmware), people on xda won't usually know it, use the word ROM (Read Only Memory).
I find this is actually funny because we have root in them and we can make everything read-write
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LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Also I don't live in America but I heard that you can't run the nexus 5 with Verizon.
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So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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LouieeeV said:
So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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Google never allows sd cards in the nexus devices. They never will. They say they are too slow for a top end type device.
Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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The G2 has the screen size, battery and camera advantages which is not something to overlook, if they were closely priced I'd go for the G2. Now if you can get some dough off due to contract extension and plan to stay with your carrier, the G2 can still be an attractive offer. Overall though, buying both unlocked and the Nexus 5 is just so awesomely priced. So it's a matter of looking at your options.
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Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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That is what I got. I have a 64gb card in my sgs3, so it will be hard, but the thing that makes it worth it, is how easy it is to dev/hack.
Haha, i was on the same boat. I love the G2 Screen and the lack of bezel. Overall the decision came down to software and speed. I always go with a custom ROM cause i like stock, (yes u can do this on the g2) but the fact that i will be getting the latest and greatest updates first is a huge + for me. Thus why i decided on the Nexus.
I say go Nexus!.
Nexus is looking like a go especially with 4g and unlimited data on T-Mobile sounds pretty good to me so far
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
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How you can be a recognized contributor and come out with such a poor statement is quite scary...
Anyway it is VERY close.
The G2 has a bigger screen, yet only a fraction larger. (~1mm all around). And weigh's in negligible over the N5 yet has a 3000mah battery instead of 2300. Then it has a 13mp camera with the same tech as the 8mp Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
They share the same CPU/GPU/Ram. The Nexus 5 will likely be quicker due to KitKat/AOSP, but it will only be a matter of weeks and the G2 will have that also so if having it first is important to you, then again N5.
They also share the same radios/spectrums/etc.. so N5 is unlocked vs LG G2 probably/possibly being locked to one carrier. Important factor for some.
Clearly I don't think one is a "winner", I have the G2, and I pre-ordered the N5. I want to check out KitKat and see how it performs/battery life with only 2300mah but KitKat optimized. I plan to pick the winner (for me) once I have them side by side for a while.
Either way, they are most CERTAINLY close. The question is (in most markets) is ~$150-200 worth a bigger screen/battery/camera and the loss of immediate updates/better rom development. In that case, for most, the answer seems to be no.
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The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
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Absolutely, if your only importance is ROM's and having the latest software first, or the longest amount of support for updates, then it is not close.
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life. The G2 is a battery monster, so I expect to be disappointed by the N5, but I absolutely hope I am wrong. Also in some countries the price is almost negligible. Plus if you have an upgrade and stick with the same carrier anyway, you can have the G2 for $150-200 vs $440 (32gb vs 32gb), so that is another factor. A lot goes in to play for this. Just simply saying it is cheaper is not enough.
When comparing ALL factors though, I stand by my previous statements. Personally I wouldn't let development allow me to be hooked to only owning a Nexus but that is absolutely the key factor for some people, I get that. Battery life is a huge importance to me and until I can see how it lasts with my own eyes I take the specs with a truckload of salt. With a 30% less battery size on the same hardware KitKat is going to have to do some pretty superb savings to keep it close.
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If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
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If you looked at hardware specs only and no other factors, it is NOT close. The G2 wins hands down if you take out software and price, but that would be just plain silly.
In case anyone misinterprets my statements, I am not saying I think one is better than the other. I think both have their +'s and personally I don't find either a clear winner. That is all.
While I'm still going with the N5 for the rom support, Sprint is selling the N5 for $149 and the G2 for $99 (both with 2 year contracts), so the G2 actually wins the price debate.
Edit: whoops had too many tabs open and got this thread confused with one that was just for Sprint. Still, I imagine TMo will sell the G2 for either the same price or less than the N5 to stay competitive.
If usbOTG is present in the N5 then you can simply attach a microsd card to a microsd to USB to the usbOTG adapter (too many adapters) or simply a flashdrive. While it may be a pain to carry around it will at least extend the capacity.
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Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life.
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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haha too funny, I agree 100%. SD and Removable battery mean 0 to me, always have.
But yeah I get it :good:

[Q] Anyone know the likelihood of Android L porting?

Once upon a time I asked if Sense 6 porting was possible, and was overall greeted with a big "no". Now, given that it was totally possible what with ports via Liberty, do any developers think a Vanilla Lollipop port may be possible for our hardware in the near future?
Thanks and cheers.
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I asked once that question a few months ago and someone told me it should be possible but I can't find the post anymore. Anyway if you want an early taste : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56112621
I haven't tried yet but it seems pretty cool.
Yeah I'm about to get the nexus 5 soon myself, then the nexus 6 hopefully soon after
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Craigslist man, I stumble on deals all the time people selling their n5's for around a hundred because their LCD is out, which is like a $20 fix
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CyanJustice said:
Once upon a time I asked if Sense 6 porting was possible, and was overall greeted with a big "no". Now, given that it was totally possible what with ports via Liberty, do any developers think a Vanilla Lollipop port may be possible for our hardware in the near future?
Thanks and cheers.
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Well I would have to say its definitely possible, considering that google is also updating the nexus 4 to L. From what I've read its supposed to run well on older devices. And the x isn't exactly weak in the hardware dept. I miss mine
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Scozzar said:
I don't think it's a matter of if and when at this point. It's a matter of WHO wants to spend hours (or days...or weeks) porting a ROM that has L to a device that has maybe 20 or so active users.
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That's too bad...I can't switch phone for another year :/ not that I don't like my one xl
Would be awesome if it gets ported I love my htcox
I wish I was a more seasoned dev so I could port it for you guys. When Paranoid Android does their rendition of L our device will hopefully still be supported by the PA maintainer here (he said he'd still support the device after he upgraded) so that'll be you guys' best bet. That will probably be a while though so I'd just get comfy on KitKat until then.
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I considered the N5 for a while, but the only thing holding me back is the price. My parents won't pay 300 for a phone, which I understand, so I have to pay for it myself. The problem with that is I get paid every other week, and it's not a whole lot ($150 every two weeks. It's an on-campus job). I could save 2 entire paychecks and buy one, OR I could get a similar experience with the Moto X which is 50 which is something I could pay for. Every flagship phone has there pros and cons.
Another issue I am having is the development. I've been flashing since 2012 and I really like the flexibility it brings. Moving to a new device, M8, Galaxy S5, Moto X etc, the development is definitely not as strong. I despise Touchwiz, and the plastic construction Samsung uses. The M8 is really, REALLY nice, but AT&T charges 200 for it which is a ripoff since Verizon has the M8 for 30 dollars (i know what I said). The Moto X is my favorite because the bang for your buck (and near STOCK ANDROID ), but the battery, I've heard, isn't the greatest, along with the camera, and no external sd or removable battery. It's like the HOXL right now, but if I'm upgrading, I want more features.
TL;DR: If I had the money, I would buy the N5 in a heartbeat, but there is more to it than just buying a phone...
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I thought about getting the M8 when it was $389 for a refurb unlocked. I was one click away but decided not to. I like the Moto X's design better & a couple issues with the Moto X should be resolved with L. Already at their Google+ community people are reporting up to 6 hours on screen time which is pretty damn good and will get better with L. The camera can also take some gorgeous shots -- if you're in a well lit area. The camera is inconsistent but hopefully Google's new camera APIs will alleviate some of that too.
I'm a college kid like you so I know exactly what empty pockets feels like. If I were you I'd save up and buy it outright refurbished if you're dead set on the M8...
You guys need to buy the OnePlus One, awesome phone. Specs are killer, dudes are getting 8 hours screen on time, plus all the other goodies.
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I'm checking this thread daily, I'm hoping it makes it to our devices.
would it help if we made a bounty ? I dont mind putting in my share to get Lollipop and it's battery enhancing goodness to our phones.
Have fun with your m8 man you'll be missed here...
Here's hoping for an upgrade to Lollipop in CM or PA. I love my Evita.
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Here's hoping for an upgrade to Lollipop in CM or PA. I love my Evita.
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That would be a dream but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I love mine too
its gonna come for sure eventually..... plus its not that big deal to alwys hv newer android asap..... one x still is a beautiful device fr me
Yeah it's still a good phone, always has been for me. Buuuut it's days inevitably numbered. I'll probably have a N5 here in a week, and I don't even know what I'm gonna do with my One X. Probably donate it to a developer. If anyone here is interested in that and will actually put it to use for development, let me know.
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in case anyone's interested, we have started a Lollipop bounty thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-x-att/general/bounty-android-lollipop-one-x-t2930513
good luck with this ! I'm trying to sell my one x on craigslist.....
it was actually easier for me to sell an original 120gb xbox 360 hard drive !

[Q] Thinking of purchasing an M8....

I am thinking of getting a Verizon M8, but I have a few questions. I am coming from a Galaxy S4. It's rooted, and I love the phone. When I got it, I did some research, but not enough to realize that only the phones with the MDK firmware could be truly rooted. I use Safestrap, and I am limited to a select few, but good, ROMs. Does the M8 have any of these issues. I noticed some of the threads mention "sunshine", and avoiding updates, but I haven't had time yet to dig my claws into it. What should I look for when I am looking?
I would recommend waiting and getting a phone with a 64-bit CPU. The performance is much better and they don't cost more money.
The Chinese phone manufacturers are pumping them out like crazy now.
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gorilla p said:
I would recommend waiting and getting a phone with a 64-bit CPU. The performance is much better and they don't cost more money.
The Chinese phone manufacturers are pumping them out like crazy now.
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The Asus Zenphone 2, coming in March is my other choice. Thanks for the comment!

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