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[Q] will rooted devices receive att&t software updates?

hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.

There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.

Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].

thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?

chillsen said:
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.

iElvis said:
We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!

Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.

Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

PeterHTC said:
Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.

All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......

I know the feeling
patstock11 said:
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike

Not really ...
iElvis said:
That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter

PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.

PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.

ota update to 4.1.1 bricked my phone.

i had plenty of battery life and was on 2.20 4.0.4 update prior to installing this OTA. now my phone wont even turn on after i did the update nor will it charge and have the light come on.. any ideas?

Let me guess. You had supercid??
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if supercid gives problems on the at&t ota, then you should of been s-off cause i did ota fine with s-off and supercid.

idk i havent really heard of it but maybe. anyway to fix this now or ?

no fix

ps3kev said:
idk i havent really heard of it but maybe. anyway to fix this now or ?
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SuperCID is when you changed the CID on your phone to 1111111 when/if you tried to root your phone. Here's a brief explanation by another XDA poster.
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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Unfortunately, I am on the same boat you are, I did not change my CID from 1's back to it's original and the update bricked my phone. It own't power on or boot into anything, I'm crossing my fingers that the AT&T store will believe me when I say "I don't know what happened, can you fix it?" and give me a new phone.

enduser76 said:
SuperCID is when you changed the CID on your phone to 1111111 when/if you tried to root your phone. Here's a brief explanation by another XDA poster.
Unfortunately, I am on the same boat you are, I did not change my CID from 1's back to it's original and the update bricked my phone. It own't power on or boot into anything, I'm crossing my fingers that the AT&T store will believe me when I say "I don't know what happened, can you fix it?" and give me a new phone.
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It is not known if super-cid causes issues with doing an OTA! I have super-cid and s-off, and I applied the AT&T OTA without any problems after using the 2.20 RUU to go back to stock. It may be that super-cid causes issues if you are not s-off, but I don't think anyone really knows if it is definitely the presence of the super-cid that is causing the problems. It could be, but given that some people don't have any problems, it could be anything.

tlazarus said:
It is not known if super-cid causes issues with doing an OTA! I have super-cid and s-off, and I applied the AT&T OTA without any problems after using the 2.20 RUU to go back to stock. It may be that super-cid causes issues if you are not s-off, but I don't think anyone really knows if it is definitely the presence of the super-cid that is causing the problems.
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S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.

redpoint73 said:
S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.
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Hmm so if I had S-Off and Supercid and update via OTA sent directly from att not flashed any other way I will be ok?

romy134 said:
Hmm so if I had S-Off and Supercid and update via OTA sent directly from att not flashed any other way I will be ok?
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If you were S-Off and SuperCID then the OTA should not affect you.
But. WHY are people wanting the stock OTA? It's causing issues because some people don't know if it's going to brick their phones. Please just wait until custom ROMs come based on the OTA. It's much much much easier

redpoint73 said:
S-off is precisely the reason you didn't brick. S-off by definition means that all security checks are bypassed, including CID check.
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Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.

I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
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The_Zodiac said:
I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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for the other images other then system that get updated, and with s-off now we don't really get screwed by anything so you might as well see if latest gives any improvements.

enduser76 said:
Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.
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People never listen or read up till its to late
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

enduser76 said:
Yup, now I (and hopefully people who read this thread) know better for next time.
I'm happy to report that AT&T swapped out my HTC One X for a new one and 4.1.1 is pretty sweet! I'm going to wait a while before unlocking and next time I'll make sure to have S-off
I found this thread useful, in that it gave me "closure" after trying desperately to revive my bricked phone for an hour. Got some Z's and woke up to a new phone - they couldn't turn it on at the AT&T service center and gave me a few examples of what could've happen. One of them was "using third party rom's" but they didn't accuse me of anything, they replaced my phone and I was on my way.
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were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.

DvineLord said:
were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.
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The guy at the service station didn't really ask me anything other than "what's wrong with your phone?" and I replied "it's not turning on." he said ok and plugged it into his machines and said he was going to run some tests and to take a seat. Five minutes later he said it's not turning on and he's going to replace it, I asked him what could've happen and he gave a few examples (including third party roms, etc) but that it could have been anything from a corrupt file to dropping it on the floor.
The_Zodiac said:
I seriously don't get why anyone updates ota. We have a flashable rom typically with a day
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For me personally, I couldn't get most of the ROM's to work properly, if at all. I kept getting errors like " com.google.process.gapps has stopped working" or something similar and I'd have no phone service (for example) which is why I went back to stock.

DvineLord said:
were you honest or did you scam at&t cause that just makes at&t want to make security tougher and hurts other more preve people.
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Not true and they are the scammers btw.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF

c5satellite2 said:
Not true and they are the scammers btw.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
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at&t customer service and even technical support have been badass for me last few years only issue is 110 bucks for my phone bill which imo should ive me the right to do whatever i want with my service and my phone without having to pay for tethering or getting throttled ever imo and cheaper early upgrades.

[Q] Newb questions!

I'm getting m8 next week and I'm coming from m7
but I haven't rooted since I owned dna so it has been over 6 months.
So I need to re-learn the process of rooting and s-off.
My questions are
1. Since I have no idea what the software number would be, do we have a root method and s-off method for the latest ota?
2. Is there cm11 rom available? I can't find one in the development section.

Good choice. Now for question 1 I would look into a program called SunShine I believe that should work for you just make sure that you have all your drivers installed. As for question 2 go to Cyanogenmod look in downloads for M8 they are nighty's. You will have to get your gapps too. But DON'T forget to make a backup of your stock rom.

foamerman said:
Good choice. Now for question 1 I would look into a program called SunShine I believe that should work for you just make sure that you have all your drivers installed. As for question 2 go to Cyanogenmod look in downloads for M8 they are nighty's. You will have to get your gapps too. But DON'T forget to make a backup of your stock rom.
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Thanks for the quick reply. For using Sunshine, I need to be rooted first right?
Do I use weaksauce or towelroot for rooting?
One more question.
Do I get custom recovery after root or after s-off?

qudwis said:
Thanks for the quick reply. For using Sunshine, I need to be rooted first right?
Do I use weaksauce or towelroot for rooting?
One more question.
Do I get custom recovery after root or after s-off?
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1. No you don't.
2. Either one will work I believe.
3. Yes you can get TWRP or CWM immediately after S-OFF(comes with bootloader unlock too).
Sorry for the bland response, low on time.
>>>>>Sunshine link; http://theroot.ninja/<<<<<

qudwis said:
I'm getting m8 next week and I'm coming from m7
but I haven't rooted since I owned dna so it has been over 6 months.
So I need to re-learn the process of rooting and s-off.
My questions are
1. Since I have no idea what the software number would be, do we have a root method and s-off method for the latest ota?
2. Is there cm11 rom available? I can't find one in the development section.
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FYI not mentioned is the $25 price tag that comes with sunshine.. Worth it if you are wanting root and soff though.

Nope. Thank you very much!

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
1. No you don't.
2. Either one will work I believe.
3. Yes you can get TWRP or CWM immediately after S-OFF(comes with bootloader unlock too).
Sorry for the bland response, low on time.
>>>>>Sunshine link; http://theroot.ninja/<<<<<
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Thanks

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Nope. Thank you very much!
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Is this a nope no thanks not wanting to pay for soff? Only reason I ask is because there are people with newer firmware that are able to still use the free method called firewater. From what I gather reason for firewater working for some and not others is due to variances in specific hardware used from one production of this device to another. I liken this to say an HP computer you model number could match mine but if production for my desktop included a generic component because HP found a way to save 5$ with each unit in my batch but you got a different componant with yours there is a slight variance in the hardware. I have worked in or around the computer industry since I was 12 and honestly never thought about this but it makes sense that if a specific instruction calls for a specific rresponse one responds differently thennwhat is expected the process would have to stop. This is a great device and worth the $$ if firewater is unable to be used IMHO.

Newbie Updating from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1 , but need advice first

Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.

notslow1 said:
Hi Guys,
I've been doing searches on here all night and I'm more confused than ever.
I just got a like new m8 that's still on 4.4.2.
I just rooted it with weaksauce. I would like to update to 5.0.1 and be able to root. I'm not sure if I need for s-off or unlocked bootloader, but I think I read some of these should be done before updating to lollipop.
I was planning to update with the ruu update from HTC website.
I think I read that I can't do the ruu update if I'm unlocked or s-off, but I can't unlock or s-off after updating to 5.0.1
Can someone who knows what's up with this clarify things for me? I don't want to update without being sure I have everything set right in advance.
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Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
dottat said:
Get s-off first. You can do any of the ruu I have posted while s-off. HTC also doesn't post Verizon ruu on their website. Now hit therootninja.com before its too late.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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notslow1 said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
Wow, I just went to get the s-off software, 25.00 That's the most expensive phone software I've seen. I don't mind paying for software, but is there any other option that is less expensive? I just got my girlfriend an m8 too and doing this twice is going to be a big investment.
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Zero other options. If you want root on your phone it's your only option.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.

notslow1 said:
Maybe I'll just stick with kit Kat for now since it's easy to root with weak sauce. Any way to stop an ota update? I haven't got one yet.
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I would S-OFF on KK then take the OTA to 5.0.1

That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).

notslow1 said:
That sounds like good advice and what I would do if it wasn't going to cost 50 to s-off our two phones. Our budget is tight after just buying phones at 150 bucks each. So until there is a less expensive s-off method I think were stuck with rooted Kit Kat. We just need root for basic stuff like titanium backup and to turn on tethering (which I hope I can do on this phone).
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You do realize that without s-off your root will be pretty worthless for most things thanks to write protection in place right?
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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?

notslow1 said:
I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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I'll add to the choir here. Do yourself a favor and get s-off before doing anything. Weaksauce works but the changes only last until you reboot. With s-off, you can do anything. And yes, Titanium Backup will restore your apps and data. As for the tethering, you can flash a rom that has it enabled or you can just run stock and "unlock" it yourself. It's a simple edit of a file. It's well worth the $25 it costs. Do it if you can.

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I was not aware of that. Will I not be able to use titanium backup to restore my apps and data? How about unlocking tethering?
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We are all new at some point in time and if there is anything I can suggest it is to listen to dottat. The kat knows his biz.
That $50 you "can't afford" . When you take one of those OTA updates unintentionally and then realize that not even $5000 can get you the s-off you so desperately desire for TB, tethering, or whatever your fancy is....it's pennies my good friend. You are so very lucky to be on KK, as that can still be dealt with. LP is another animal. To my knowledge there has been no way to get s-off/unlock bootloader. Take it form me, a flash junkie - you want s-off. You want an unlocked bootloader. You want root. Once you have it you never go back.
Otherwise you should have gotten an iphone.
These words are not to meant to condescend or talk down, it is to encourage you to take what you can while you still can.

I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/verizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.

notslow1 said:
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rizon-htc-one-m8-lollipop-root-t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
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You won't be able to do what you want.

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Originally Posted by notslow1
I just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...t3072841/page5
So it looks like you can get root on lollipop now.
If I am rooted by this method and S-on can I use titanium backup for full backups and restoring apps? Also, can I turn on tethering with sqlite editor. Or will I still need S-off to do these two things?
I doubt I'll be changing roms or anything advanced, just need my Titanium Backup and tethering.
I also see that Sunshine now supports lollipop, so if I do decide I need it later, I guess I can always do it later.
I'm not sure how you got that out of the last sentence ....Did you read all of the post? :
"We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
Your phones are yours to do with as you choose of course, but if you want to take advantage of TB and tethering in the manner in which you hope to, you'll need s-off. As dottat has pointed out once again, and as I've already said, you've come this far and you are lucky enough to have found two phones with the 4.x firmware still on them, you'd be throwing all that away in the HOPES that one day you can get that exploit - and you'll STILL have to pay $25 for it IF they do.

I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"

notslow1 said:
I read that there was S-off support for lollipop at the top of this post in red lettering http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Am I reading it wrong? It's confusing because below that it says "We do not currently Support the VERIZON HTC M9, nor Verizon m8 running 5.0.x (4.4.4 and below are good to go). We are working it, no ETAs, no HINTS, NO DETAILS, NO UPDATES!! Please don't ask about it"
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The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

dottat said:
The sunshine app itself does not officially support it. You must get root first via the kingroot...which is fairly unstable root. It takes a number of tries which for most people is tough.
You are really setting out on a tough path if you don't at least get yours s-off.
We have already given you enough justification at this point I believe you simply need to make a decision and go with it.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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! What he said!
Both the M8 and M9 are unleashed after you have them S-0ffed. In addition to getting Wifi Tether,
you can modify things like Power Saver settings and other fun things. You can experiment with things
safely and obtain a faster phone that gets better battery life than bloated stock.
Devs post great custom roms that you can sample. Honestly, I like the 'new' look of my phone rotating
thru the different roms available here on xda.
Def worth the effort to S-0ff.

I got both phones S-off this week. I'm going to install dottat's prerooted 5.0.1 on them now. Crossing my fingers that I do it right.
Just want to thank everyone that posted for the great advice.
Me and my girlfriend can't wait to get on some modern phones, we're using droid 4 and droid razr that are grinding to a halt and barely function.

Root = Impossible

There seems to be no possible way to root a Verizon HTC device now. I'm trying to root my M8 and every avenue I've tried, it's apparently impossible.
Sunshine didn't work.
Everyone says weak sauce no longer works.
HTCdev site didn't work.
I always run into the fact that I can't S-Off.
So... Is there now no possible way to root a Verizon HTC M8?
The main reason I want to root is for battery life. I'm desperate. I want the old battery saver feature back, that Verizon removed in the Marshmallow update. Losers. Why you eliminate such a helpful tool from a phone escapes me. Utter nonsense.
So, now I'm faced with the decision. Root my M8, or buy a new phone. Thing is, I'm not ready to upgrade. But I can't seem to find a way to root!
If anyone can offer ANY help here, I would be greatly, greatly, appreciative. My M8's battery is not what it used to be.

Are you trying to s-off or root? Root doesn't require s-off
If you are trying to get back to lollipop (since you don't seem happy with MM), s-off is required.
Sunshine worked fine for me, what error are you getting?
For Verizon M8, sunshine is your only real option unless you find someone in your area with a javacard. Htcdev and weaksauce won't work.

avg2424 said:
Are you trying to s-off or root? Root doesn't require s-off
If you are trying to get back to lollipop (since you don't seem happy with MM), s-off is required.
Sunshine worked fine for me, what error are you getting?
For Verizon M8, sunshine is your only real option unless you find someone in your area with a javacard. Htcdev and weaksauce won't work.
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Well, I first tried the dev site. Went through all the steps and then it said I had to do the whole s-off procedure, but I wasn't able to because Verizon doesn't allow it anymore supposedly.
So then I tried Sunshine. It essentially ran the temp boot, my phone reboots, and then... Nothing. Nothing happens. I go back to sunshine and it just restarts all the tests again and asks for a temp root. Going in circles basically...
I'm lost. But there's got to be a way...
I'd rather not have to go back to 5.1, because I like have Sense 7 with MM. But if I can't root and am faced with no other option, I will entertain the idea. At the end of the day, my battery life is more important to me than themes or just about anything else.

You can send it off to someone with a Java Card like us VZW M9 members have done/are doing.
Here is the thread, the OP shows a map where the ppl are located, you may get lucky and be able to meet someone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247

andybones said:
You can send it off to someone with a Java Card like us VZW M9 members have done/are doing.
Here is the thread, the OP shows a map where the ppl are located, you may get lucky and be able to meet someone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
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That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.

Warrior VII said:
That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.
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I just confirmed that there is..
Up until about a month ago Sunshine worked.
MM just came out, you never want to take an OTA if you aren't rooted and don't know if the new OTA is rootable.
My suggestion is to just send it out.
I did it with my M9.
It's 100% worth it, you will be rooted and S-OFF with bootloader unlocked all the goodies, all the guys are great, usually get it done and sent back out the same day. You pay for shipping to and from and they can't charge so you toss them a "donation".

Warrior VII said:
That is really my last option.
I suppose this confirms it then: there really is no way to root a Verizon M8. Least ways, not without some special 'card'.
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You can send it my way and I will do it for you. Mail via USPS priority mail isn't bad at all.
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

dottat said:
You can send it my way and I will do it for you. Mail via USPS priority mail isn't bad at all.
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Is it not something you could walk me through or do remotely?

Warrior VII said:
Is it not something you could walk me through it do remotely?
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No. The card must be in your phone.
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dottat said:
No. The card must be in your phone.
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Just got the phone rooted! Unlocked with sunshine and then got a friend to root for me.
Do you know if there is a way to enable power saver mode? Verizon disabled it, and I really want it back. Anyway to re-enable after root?

Warrior VII said:
Just got the phone rooted! Unlocked with sunshine and then got a friend to root for me.
Do you know if there is a way to enable power saver mode? Verizon disabled it, and I really want it back. Anyway to re-enable after root?
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Flash a rom that supports it or find the Android shell command that enables it. I have seen it posted a couple times. The only direct way I know of requires a wipe.
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SunShine works on the latest (as of March 8th 2016) Verizon m8 firmware, it will temproot, unlock and s-off the device
Warrior VII said:
There seems to be no possible way to root a Verizon HTC device now. I'm trying to root my M8 and every avenue I've tried, it's apparently impossible.
Sunshine didn't work.
Everyone says weak sauce no longer works.
HTCdev site didn't work.
I always run into the fact that I can't S-Off.
So... Is there now no possible way to root a Verizon HTC M8?
The main reason I want to root is for battery life. I'm desperate. I want the old battery saver feature back, that Verizon removed in the Marshmallow update. Losers. Why you eliminate such a helpful tool from a phone escapes me. Utter nonsense.
So, now I'm faced with the decision. Root my M8, or buy a new phone. Thing is, I'm not ready to upgrade. But I can't seem to find a way to root!
If anyone can offer ANY help here, I would be greatly, greatly, appreciative. My M8's battery is not what it used to be.
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jcase said:
SunShine works on the latest (as of March 8th 2016) Verizon m8 firmware, it will temproot, unlock and s-off the device
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Does SunShine still work on the Verizon m9 with 6.0 ?

bigbee8492 said:
Does SunShine still work on the Verizon m9 with 6.0 ?
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Yes but you need to be on 3.37.605.7, follow this to downgraded/update http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-unlock-s-verizon-m9-mm-3-37-605-13-t3457717

jcase said:
Yes but you need to be on 3.37.605.7, follow this to downgraded/update http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-unlock-s-verizon-m9-mm-3-37-605-13-t3457717
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Hello! I just bought HTC m8 verizon version that is on android 6.0. I am unable to get Wifi hotspot and USB tethering turned ON. Can you just show me a path to accomplish the goal? I will do the rest myself. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

hmxmghl said:
Hello! I just bought HTC m8 verizon version that is on android 6.0. I am unable to get Wifi hotspot and USB tethering turned ON. Can you just show me a path to accomplish the goal? I will do the rest myself. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Sorry not something I do