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Really looking forward to get one, but i m worrying if it is too wide for playing games like shadowgun, nova, dead trigger, gta, punch hero etc
I use my tablet for almost everything included gaming. I m a heavy gamer.
Using motorola Xoom running jelybean now, n the gaming experience here is really awesome. It is Smooth, n the corner edge is not too wide. I played my friend's transformer and it's corner make it not so comfortable when playing games.
So any opinion to share here? If its ok, i think i will grab it.
Thanks. Sry for my bad eng.

i had a Lg G Slate (9") prior to this, and I thought the thing was unwieldy for gaming, couldnt bear having to hold it with one hand while the other does whatever swiping gestures that are asked of me in Fruit Ninja, Mass Effect, or Dead Space; or holding it up for tilt-based racing games. I liked what I had seen from playing GTA on it though.
It's a lot heavier than the Note, thats for sure; this thing is feather light. The sides slope into the rounded corner and its rather comfortable in hand, I'd recommend checking it out at a Best Buy - be warned, they took out the S Pen and left it on perma-screen saver mode at my local store.

I have never done "touch gaming" for action. For action-type games - it's sixaxis controller + a stand.
Dead Trigger + N8013 + Sixaxis Controller = awesome

East to hold, games look good, and they sound pretty decent for what the speakers are.
As Entropy noted, playing with a PS3 controller (if you have one) is awesome. Otherwise I don't find it impossible to use the touch controls. I find them a a bit large, but that's a good thing compared to trying to use touch controls on my phone and can't see anything because my fingers are in the way. I can play with the Note 10.1 for a few hours without getting tired.
Mmm, and I got Dark Meadow working a little while ago.

Has anyone gotten a PS3 controller to work with the usb otg cable without rooting? I saw this video and it looks like it's possible but the vid isn't in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZyRVOcrnIQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Nyko Playpad Quick Review

My Nyko Playpad came in from Amazon on Friday (earlier than the estimated ship date I might add...) and here are my quick thoughts.
Summary: Very disappointing. Build quality is questionable, it doesn't work with a lot of games and their 'app' is a broken mess.
Details:
1. The device is VERY small. I have small hands and it is difficult to press the L1, R1, L2 and R2 buttons because the thing is so small. Some one with slightly larger hands would probably have a really hard time using this device. This isn't a knock per se, because it is advertised as a 'portable' solution. You just probably don't want to plan to do any extended gaming on this.
2. The build quality feels light, cheap and 'plasticky'. I feel like I am going to break the L2 and R2 buttons every time I press them. This feels like a cheap $15 knock off controller, not a $40 controller in the same price range as an XBox controller.
3. The analog controls are stiff and imprecise. They are not covered in the same rubber texture that the body is covered in, and the raised 'bumps' that are there to provide grip are VERY raised. It feels like pressing your thumbs on tiny spikes and is not comfortable.
4. The free app that exists to allow you to map buttons (which would solve the game compatibility problem) does not work. The entry in the Google Play store warns the app 'is in beta'. 'Beta' is being generous. I could not get the app to sync the controller on either my HTC phone or my Asus Infinity. The sync process crashes at 50%.
Even more strange is the fact that the app doesn't use the 'App Mode' of the controller. When starting the app, a warning appears that 'In the current version, the app uses the HID/Game Pad mode'. The 'App Switch' at the top of the controller has to be in HID/Game pad mode to work (it still doesn't sync even when you use the right mode).
I am not the only one with this problem. There are numerous complaints and '1' ratings.
5. Unless your game supports this pad specifically or has built in remap functions, the controller is probably not going to work. In Snesoid for example, only one of the analog controllers and the 'Y' button work, and the rest just cause the 'Exit App' screen to appear.
6. The charging dongle that comes with the controller is an actual dongle. It is not a cable. This makes it very difficult to charge the device.
Conclusions. Right now this was a waste of my $40. When the app is fixed the pad might be usable, but it still will not be a product I would recommend to anyone.

I bought the Playpad Pro the other day from Gamestop and I would rate it 7/10. Overall, I'm very happy with the construction of the controller. I haven't held the regular Playpad, but I can tell you the Playpad Pro has a nice rubberized, non-slip finish to it and it feels surprisingly solid for what it is. It worked perfectly right out of the box with all of my favorite emulators (anything by yongzh, fpse, etc...). I'm disappointed to report that the triggers would not work with Max Payne Mobile. But, hey, not big deal as long as you don't need Bullet Time or the ability to shoot Max's guns! :/
Also, the app, as reported by bluejay2345 is indeed a desolate wasteland of perhaps 10 games, 3 of which you have maybe even heard of. One of these titles is Grand Theft Auto III, which admittedly worked amazingly well. The game controlled (and looked) even better than I remembered on the console versions. That being said, Nyko needs to show the app some serious TLC if this thing is ever going to catch on. They've got a really great concept going here, but it's in need of some immediate support.
But overall, I would highly recommend the Nyko Playpad Pro. Especially if your main goal is to relive classic games through emulation on your beastly tablet.

Do the analog sticks work with FPSE? I've read a review on Amazon where some guy can't make them work with FPSE.

I'm pleased to report that the left analog stick works fine. I couldn't get the right one to work, but I don't believe the ps1 had a right analog stick anyway.

I wish I had bought the Pro version instead of the portable version. It sounds like a much better deal, particularly given that they are the same price.

radio five said:
I bought the Playpad Pro the other day from Gamestop and I would rate it 7/10. Overall, I'm very happy with the construction of the controller. I haven't held the regular Playpad, but I can tell you the Playpad Pro has a nice rubberized, non-slip finish to it and it feels surprisingly solid for what it is. It worked perfectly right out of the box with all of my favorite emulators (anything by yongzh, fpse, etc...). I'm disappointed to report that the triggers would not work with Max Payne Mobile. But, hey, not big deal as long as you don't need Bullet Time or the ability to shoot Max's guns! :/
Also, the app, as reported by bluejay2345 is indeed a desolate wasteland of perhaps 10 games, 3 of which you have maybe even heard of. One of these titles is Grand Theft Auto III, which admittedly worked amazingly well. The game controlled (and looked) even better than I remembered on the console versions. That being said, Nyko needs to show the app some serious TLC if this thing is ever going to catch on. They've got a really great concept going here, but it's in need of some immediate support.
But overall, I would highly recommend the Nyko Playpad Pro. Especially if your main goal is to relive classic games through emulation on your beastly tablet.
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Hi, did you buy Playpad Pro on line. I live in the UK and I can't find any where to buy it.

What gamepad would you suggest for Android as an alternative to this device if you'd pay any price ?

maxal said:
Hi, did you buy Playpad Pro on line. I live in the UK and I can't find any where to buy it.
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I bought mine from a brick and mortar Gamestop in my town.
(sorry for the late response)
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dazdaz said:
What gamepad would you suggest for Android as an alternative to this device if you'd pay any price ?
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That's the frustrating part of this whole thing. In my opinion, this is the best gamepad on the market. The build is solid and it feels like a nice, sturdy, ergonomic controller with all the necessary buttons. The problem we're faced with is the software. There is no other bluetooth gamepad out there that will do anything more than this will. Triggers are simply not recognized by any game unless it is already optimized for it, such as GTA III. Nyko's playground app is supposed to let you map any button to do what you like for any game out there. Unfortunately, it doesn't and the app is virtually worthless at this point. Once they finally come out with an update that enables the app to do what it's advertised to do, this will be the ultimate solution.

Does anyone know if this works with Bard's Tale?

radio five said:
I bought mine from a brick and mortar Gamestop in my town.
(sorry for the late response)
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That's the frustrating part of this whole thing. In my opinion, this is the best gamepad on the market. The build is solid and it feels like a nice, sturdy, ergonomic controller with all the necessary buttons. The problem we're faced with is the software. There is no other bluetooth gamepad out there that will do anything more than this will. Triggers are simply not recognized by any game unless it is already optimized for it, such as GTA III. Nyko's playground app is supposed to let you map any button to do what you like for any game out there. Unfortunately, it doesn't and the app is virtually worthless at this point. Once they finally come out with an update that enables the app to do what it's advertised to do, this will be the ultimate solution.
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When are Nyko due to release an app update ? I finally ordered my gamepad and can't wait to have a few rounds of my favourite games on the Tablet.

I think I am going to invest in the Moga, you put your phone in it or fold that part away and use it like a regular blue tooth gamepad for our tablets. It's $50 or $60 at best buy, I forgot.

dazdaz said:
What gamepad would you suggest for Android as an alternative to this device if you'd pay any price ?
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The PS3 Dualshock is the best controller for the TF. IMHO.

Ready2Mosh said:
I think I am going to invest in the Moga, you put your phone in it or fold that part away and use it like a regular blue tooth gamepad for our tablets. It's $50 or $60 at best buy, I forgot.
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Good luck. I heard the Moga is just as bad or worse. Great idea, but again poor execution. Wish I could a sixaxis without rooting. For my phone that's what I use, but for my tablet i want to keep stock (twc app, ect...)
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I own the MOGA, Playpad and the Steelseries Free controller.
Out of the three, the Steelseries is my favorite. Its very comfortable... at least i feel it is.
The MOGA does not have native bluetooth IME support unless you use the universal driver app.
The Problem the MOGA has is that it isn't using android native drivers. Input starts out smooth but eventually lag... lag really, really bad.
If Power A figures out a way around the lag their app and drivers cause, then the controller would be amazing. Until they do, use the universal driver app.
The Nyko Playpad's Playground app is crappy and needs an update... bad. The thumb sticks/numbs are not as smooth as I was hoping, though it's about the same level of sensitivity as the MOGA.
The Steelseries Free just feels amazing. The Thumb Sticks are extremely smooth and every click just feels right. The only downside I have with the controller is the Price.
$80
You can get a PS3 controller for cheaper.

I just spent a couple hours playing FPSE with the Playpad and I'm satisfied although the L2 and R2 buttons do not work in HID mode. I can live without dual analog support until Nyko gets their Playground app straightened out (or someone straightens it out for them, or suggests a good alternative) but I am a bit concerned about the L2 and R2 buttons, which were the main reason I chose this pad over an iControlpad (that only has two "shoulder" buttons). I also have not yet attempted to use the Playground app and probably won't until I have a game to play that really forces me to.
As far as the size goes, I was actually hoping it would be just a bit smaller. It is light but it seems fairly durable. Gamestop promised me a 30 day no questions asked warranty so I intend to do my best to break it in the next 30 days, I already dropped it right on its shoulder buttons before I ever even turned it on for the first time and it was none the worse for wear. It's also as mash-proof as I was hoping it would be. I'm slightly concerned that the L2 and R2 buttons may break in my pocket not from mashing but from catching up under their lips and pulling/levering but I guess we'll see. Unfortunately I may not realize it if they are since as I said they don't function in HID mode. I will make a point of testing them as I near my cut-off date if I'm still not using them for games.
If the SteelSeries wasn't twice the price, I might have considered it since it is definitely smaller and I'm not surprised to hear that it has a nice feel since it looked like it had a nice build quality but the Playpad is acceptable in this department and it is the only mobile gamepad that has four shoulder buttons.

Xbox 360 wireless controller
I just use my xbox 360 controller with the wireless usb adapter, which you could get from amazon for under $20 and the usb/bt joycenter app (paid) with touch server. The controller navigates the tablet out of the box, but needs the app to play emulators and touch games like modern combat and nova. I get to use my wireless xbox 360 controller on my pc as well with the adapter which I already had. The only thing I had to buy was the app which I think was like 6 dollars. Works fine for me.

It's better now
It works great now. Especially for emulators. Every button works on Mupen64 and ePSXe, even both analogue sticks.

Is Touch Mapping supported?

Moga Pro - The Best Way to Game on Mobile

So after i gave away my smaller moga controller in a giveaway(winner will be announced July 5th) i decided to order the moga pro and give my perspective on it. this controller is a must have for hardcore mobile gamers, especially with console like quality games releasing everyday. This controller only retails for $49.99 so it's very affordable. And with enough feed back from you guys im def giving this away once i throw up a few more videos on it. tell me what you guys think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-HBdCjmIc

SNNTEC said:
So after i gave away my smaller moga controller in a giveaway(winner will be announced July 5th) i decided to order the moga pro and give my perspective on it. this controller is a must have for hardcore mobile gamers, especially with console like quality games releasing everyday. This controller only retails for $49.99 so it's very affordable. And with enough feed back from you guys im def giving this away once i throw up a few more videos on it. tell me what you guys think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-HBdCjmIc
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It really is affordable. But only if you live in the states. International shipping is heaps too expensive.

lambstone said:
It really is affordable. But only if you live in the states. International shipping is heaps too expensive.
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This is available from Game.co.uk if you live in the UK. I used flubit.com and got it for £34.99 and it came delivered from Game.:laugh:

gazjlfc said:
This is available from Game.co.uk if you live in the UK. I used flubit.com and got it for £34.99 and it came delivered from Game.:laugh:
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Yeah, unfortunately I'm in Australia. Shipping from UK is expensive too.

Just posted a very detailed review of MOGA Pro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351418
Check out my other reviews in signature links, all very detailed write up of the latest accessories and gadgets for your smartphone and tablets!

Nice bro..
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any uk folk still after this, game.co.uk have this in stock at the moment. i've just ordered mine, will post back once it arrives to report if it's actually any better/worse than the many other awful blutooth controllers for android phones
fingers crossed this one's half decent

Another cheap alternative to this if you dont have to have wireless is a OTG Usb cable and hooking up a PS3 controller, works PERFECT and no need to be rooted or no drivers to install
plug in and play
you can use it over bluetooth if you are rooted

received this yesterday and i'm really happy with it. much better than the nyko and other android controllers i've tried. works best on moga enhanced games like dead trigger and gta iii. these games auto-detect when the moga is connected and adjust the control system accordingly. so there is no need to remap buttons or change any settings, these games just work out of the box so to speak.
for other games, the moga can make use of the HID mode. this is great for emulators where you can map each button to match whichever corresponding button in the emulator.
only problem is that the "select" button can not be mapped, as it always acts as the "back" button (same as the back button at the bottom of the phone itself). this is the same on every wireless controller i've tried though. i think the ps3 dual shock 3 controller can be mapped correctly, but without root this needs to be plugged in.
also, it took me a while to work out the axis mapping on epsxe, as these are not mapped by pressing the triggers or using the sticks, but must be selected manually. this took a bit of trial and error, so to save you the trouble, here are the settings that work......these may work for other controllers too?
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_BRAKE
R2 Stick = AXIS_GAS
If you do not set the axis correctly, they will simply not operate within the psx games.
I also set analogue range to Circle rather than Square.
now that all my emulators are set up, i'm very happy with this controller. it works well, holds the phone nicely, isn't too heavy and is very responsive. would recommend this controller certainly over any other i've tried, unless you are rooted or don't mind using a wired controller, in which case stick with the ps3 ds3, that's the ultimate conroller and works flawlessly.

Dead Zone on sticks

Anyone else notice there is a huge dead zone on the analog sticks? You can move them about 1/4 inch before they register you are moving.
Really hurts playing games like Black Ops 2 where everything is really twitchy and fast.

Hardcore73 said:
Anyone else notice there is a huge dead zone on the analog sticks? You can move them about 1/4 inch before they register you are moving.
Really hurts playing games like Black Ops 2 where everything is really twitchy and fast.
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i have noticed this too.
i don't believe its a software (lag) thing either as it seems to act this way in every app/program ive used (not streaming). including the right stick "mouse".
as long as you stay away from dead center it seems to not be an issue, but that is nowhere near ideal during gaming.
the D-pad is pretty much useless in terms of a D-pad and acts very much like a analog stick. (im working on a mod to change this).

It sucks. If it played like the Xbox 360 controller does on my PC it would rock.
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Hardcore73 said:
It sucks. If it played like the Xbox 360 controller does on my PC it would rock.
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im not a fan of that controller but i feel your pain.
Nvidia had their work cut out for them trying to make "every" gamer happy with one controller. but i think in looking at the bigger picture they missed a few trivial things that stand out like a sore thumb when sitting down with this thing for 5min.

Yeah dead sticks makes it impossible for some games. I don't care who you are or what your joystick preferences are.

Yea. I remember when the analog stick use to get a all loose on the Nintendo 64 controller. It made FPS games impossible to play.

I think it is a software issue. If it's hardware then there is no fixing it.
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s0me guy said:
Yea. I remember when the analog stick use to get a all loose on the Nintendo 64 controller. It made FPS games impossible to play.
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I didn't have an N64 (being of the wrong generation and in an anti gaming household) but I did have a gamecube and wii and have handled the Wii U brick remote, I just don't think nintendo have a clue on how the hell an analogue stick should work.
The gamecube one I swear from centre to fully pushed forwards goes something like: 0%, 50%, 100% rather than being an actual analogue stick, plus a rather large deadzone, and that was from new and on all my controllers. Dolphin emulator with an xbox 360 controller (which is a controller I like apart from the DPad again, no one does a good DPad) seems far more controllable, mario actually has some speed control to him....
We'll ignore the fiasco of the right thumbstick not even being a full size thumbstick on the gamecube, I mean seriously, what is with that thing?
Wii analogue sticks, bit more control from them but horrible in your hand, actually I found my thumb getting sore as they arent a nice shape and are rock solid rather than having a rubberized finish. Plus they didn't seem to have a strong spring under them, just felt like too little force was required to push it to its extremeties.
Wii U seems to use Wii nunchuck sticks, just 2 of them so its twice as bad.
Nintendo + thumbsticks = fail.
Nintendo + buttons is slightly better

Yeah the 360 controller spoiled me
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Yes, I definitely experience this deadzone. The stick will travel halfway before registering in some games. I believe it's a software issue because there is zero play/travel when I use the right stick mouse.

Ah that would be good news if software. Means it could be fixed.
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It usually is software.
Thumbsticks generally work by being 2 potentiometers, simply a variable resistor. You can record the altered current flow through the resistor quite easily. There will be 1 for vertical movement and 1 for horizontal. They will usually have minimum resistance with stick at the bottom (or left) and max at the top (or right) and then 50% resistance when perfectly centred. However the springs plus inaccuracy in the potentiometers themselves mean that the stick will rarely if ever output the dead centre signal, so in software you tend to ignore a small range of readings around what should be the centre zone, this area being the deadzone.
So yeah its software. They would have to be doing something really weird for it to be hardware (hall effect thumbsticks for instance could have a hardware deadzone, been done but there is no benefit really).

i'm sure it's software. i notice it more playing games. cursor on Android home screen/OS (Right Thumb analog) seems to be more sensitive, but still has a deadzone.

So still no fix for the dead zone issues. That sucks.
Makes playing Call of Duty Black Ops 2 almost impossible.
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You can fix it for yourself with Tincore KeyMapper.
Normally you use this program for playing touch based games or with some emulators.
But you can simply map anything on the sticks/buttons.
For me I mapped on the right stick mouse movement, because in Nvidia Streaming Mode the Mouse is disabled.
So with Tincore KeyMapper I have my Mouse back in Nvidia Streaming Mode and can play games like Diablo 3 which need baldy the mouse function.
I also mapped my left stick and the Deadzone is gone, so its Software releated.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Greetings from Germany

Can you confirm by playing Black Ops 2 or similar to test?

Don't have BO2, but tested it with some other games in streaming mode and with normal android games on the shield and the deadzone problem was fixed for me.
Simply give Tincore a chance.
You need some little time to understand the app, but after this it's very easy to configure.

I will try it but not sure how that will help dead zone.
Thank you.

Tincore overrides the default stick/button handling.
So if it is software related, what it looks for me, this can fix the problem.

Kekskruemeltorte said:
You can fix it for yourself with Tincore KeyMapper.
Normally you use this program for playing touch based games or with some emulators.
But you can simply map anything on the sticks/buttons.
For me I mapped on the right stick mouse movement, because in Nvidia Streaming Mode the Mouse is disabled.
So with Tincore KeyMapper I have my Mouse back in Nvidia Streaming Mode and can play games like Diablo 3 which need baldy the mouse function.
I also mapped my left stick and the Deadzone is gone, so its Software releated.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Greetings from Germany
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Just got my shield last night, how are you playing diablo 3 on it?
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Nvidia shield controller

hey guys im thinking of getting the shield controller but i was wondering what you guys think of it, does it suffer with horrible dead zones like ipgea 9023 that i have, and also do you have any other suggestions for different controller for first person shooters

Buy it, it's a fantastic piece of hardware.

I got it yesterday and I've been having a blast. The quality and functions are top notch!
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i had read it had dead zones problems so i went with the moga power pro and apart from the rochard game it works great

No dead zones on my Shield Controller whatsoever!
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