My Nyko Playpad came in from Amazon on Friday (earlier than the estimated ship date I might add...) and here are my quick thoughts.
Summary: Very disappointing. Build quality is questionable, it doesn't work with a lot of games and their 'app' is a broken mess.
Details:
1. The device is VERY small. I have small hands and it is difficult to press the L1, R1, L2 and R2 buttons because the thing is so small. Some one with slightly larger hands would probably have a really hard time using this device. This isn't a knock per se, because it is advertised as a 'portable' solution. You just probably don't want to plan to do any extended gaming on this.
2. The build quality feels light, cheap and 'plasticky'. I feel like I am going to break the L2 and R2 buttons every time I press them. This feels like a cheap $15 knock off controller, not a $40 controller in the same price range as an XBox controller.
3. The analog controls are stiff and imprecise. They are not covered in the same rubber texture that the body is covered in, and the raised 'bumps' that are there to provide grip are VERY raised. It feels like pressing your thumbs on tiny spikes and is not comfortable.
4. The free app that exists to allow you to map buttons (which would solve the game compatibility problem) does not work. The entry in the Google Play store warns the app 'is in beta'. 'Beta' is being generous. I could not get the app to sync the controller on either my HTC phone or my Asus Infinity. The sync process crashes at 50%.
Even more strange is the fact that the app doesn't use the 'App Mode' of the controller. When starting the app, a warning appears that 'In the current version, the app uses the HID/Game Pad mode'. The 'App Switch' at the top of the controller has to be in HID/Game pad mode to work (it still doesn't sync even when you use the right mode).
I am not the only one with this problem. There are numerous complaints and '1' ratings.
5. Unless your game supports this pad specifically or has built in remap functions, the controller is probably not going to work. In Snesoid for example, only one of the analog controllers and the 'Y' button work, and the rest just cause the 'Exit App' screen to appear.
6. The charging dongle that comes with the controller is an actual dongle. It is not a cable. This makes it very difficult to charge the device.
Conclusions. Right now this was a waste of my $40. When the app is fixed the pad might be usable, but it still will not be a product I would recommend to anyone.
I bought the Playpad Pro the other day from Gamestop and I would rate it 7/10. Overall, I'm very happy with the construction of the controller. I haven't held the regular Playpad, but I can tell you the Playpad Pro has a nice rubberized, non-slip finish to it and it feels surprisingly solid for what it is. It worked perfectly right out of the box with all of my favorite emulators (anything by yongzh, fpse, etc...). I'm disappointed to report that the triggers would not work with Max Payne Mobile. But, hey, not big deal as long as you don't need Bullet Time or the ability to shoot Max's guns! :/
Also, the app, as reported by bluejay2345 is indeed a desolate wasteland of perhaps 10 games, 3 of which you have maybe even heard of. One of these titles is Grand Theft Auto III, which admittedly worked amazingly well. The game controlled (and looked) even better than I remembered on the console versions. That being said, Nyko needs to show the app some serious TLC if this thing is ever going to catch on. They've got a really great concept going here, but it's in need of some immediate support.
But overall, I would highly recommend the Nyko Playpad Pro. Especially if your main goal is to relive classic games through emulation on your beastly tablet.
Do the analog sticks work with FPSE? I've read a review on Amazon where some guy can't make them work with FPSE.
I'm pleased to report that the left analog stick works fine. I couldn't get the right one to work, but I don't believe the ps1 had a right analog stick anyway.
I wish I had bought the Pro version instead of the portable version. It sounds like a much better deal, particularly given that they are the same price.
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I bought the Playpad Pro the other day from Gamestop and I would rate it 7/10. Overall, I'm very happy with the construction of the controller. I haven't held the regular Playpad, but I can tell you the Playpad Pro has a nice rubberized, non-slip finish to it and it feels surprisingly solid for what it is. It worked perfectly right out of the box with all of my favorite emulators (anything by yongzh, fpse, etc...). I'm disappointed to report that the triggers would not work with Max Payne Mobile. But, hey, not big deal as long as you don't need Bullet Time or the ability to shoot Max's guns! :/
Also, the app, as reported by bluejay2345 is indeed a desolate wasteland of perhaps 10 games, 3 of which you have maybe even heard of. One of these titles is Grand Theft Auto III, which admittedly worked amazingly well. The game controlled (and looked) even better than I remembered on the console versions. That being said, Nyko needs to show the app some serious TLC if this thing is ever going to catch on. They've got a really great concept going here, but it's in need of some immediate support.
But overall, I would highly recommend the Nyko Playpad Pro. Especially if your main goal is to relive classic games through emulation on your beastly tablet.
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Hi, did you buy Playpad Pro on line. I live in the UK and I can't find any where to buy it.
What gamepad would you suggest for Android as an alternative to this device if you'd pay any price ?
maxal said:
Hi, did you buy Playpad Pro on line. I live in the UK and I can't find any where to buy it.
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I bought mine from a brick and mortar Gamestop in my town.
(sorry for the late response)
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What gamepad would you suggest for Android as an alternative to this device if you'd pay any price ?
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That's the frustrating part of this whole thing. In my opinion, this is the best gamepad on the market. The build is solid and it feels like a nice, sturdy, ergonomic controller with all the necessary buttons. The problem we're faced with is the software. There is no other bluetooth gamepad out there that will do anything more than this will. Triggers are simply not recognized by any game unless it is already optimized for it, such as GTA III. Nyko's playground app is supposed to let you map any button to do what you like for any game out there. Unfortunately, it doesn't and the app is virtually worthless at this point. Once they finally come out with an update that enables the app to do what it's advertised to do, this will be the ultimate solution.
Does anyone know if this works with Bard's Tale?
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I bought mine from a brick and mortar Gamestop in my town.
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That's the frustrating part of this whole thing. In my opinion, this is the best gamepad on the market. The build is solid and it feels like a nice, sturdy, ergonomic controller with all the necessary buttons. The problem we're faced with is the software. There is no other bluetooth gamepad out there that will do anything more than this will. Triggers are simply not recognized by any game unless it is already optimized for it, such as GTA III. Nyko's playground app is supposed to let you map any button to do what you like for any game out there. Unfortunately, it doesn't and the app is virtually worthless at this point. Once they finally come out with an update that enables the app to do what it's advertised to do, this will be the ultimate solution.
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When are Nyko due to release an app update ? I finally ordered my gamepad and can't wait to have a few rounds of my favourite games on the Tablet.
I think I am going to invest in the Moga, you put your phone in it or fold that part away and use it like a regular blue tooth gamepad for our tablets. It's $50 or $60 at best buy, I forgot.
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The PS3 Dualshock is the best controller for the TF. IMHO.
Ready2Mosh said:
I think I am going to invest in the Moga, you put your phone in it or fold that part away and use it like a regular blue tooth gamepad for our tablets. It's $50 or $60 at best buy, I forgot.
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Good luck. I heard the Moga is just as bad or worse. Great idea, but again poor execution. Wish I could a sixaxis without rooting. For my phone that's what I use, but for my tablet i want to keep stock (twc app, ect...)
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I own the MOGA, Playpad and the Steelseries Free controller.
Out of the three, the Steelseries is my favorite. Its very comfortable... at least i feel it is.
The MOGA does not have native bluetooth IME support unless you use the universal driver app.
The Problem the MOGA has is that it isn't using android native drivers. Input starts out smooth but eventually lag... lag really, really bad.
If Power A figures out a way around the lag their app and drivers cause, then the controller would be amazing. Until they do, use the universal driver app.
The Nyko Playpad's Playground app is crappy and needs an update... bad. The thumb sticks/numbs are not as smooth as I was hoping, though it's about the same level of sensitivity as the MOGA.
The Steelseries Free just feels amazing. The Thumb Sticks are extremely smooth and every click just feels right. The only downside I have with the controller is the Price.
$80
You can get a PS3 controller for cheaper.
I just spent a couple hours playing FPSE with the Playpad and I'm satisfied although the L2 and R2 buttons do not work in HID mode. I can live without dual analog support until Nyko gets their Playground app straightened out (or someone straightens it out for them, or suggests a good alternative) but I am a bit concerned about the L2 and R2 buttons, which were the main reason I chose this pad over an iControlpad (that only has two "shoulder" buttons). I also have not yet attempted to use the Playground app and probably won't until I have a game to play that really forces me to.
As far as the size goes, I was actually hoping it would be just a bit smaller. It is light but it seems fairly durable. Gamestop promised me a 30 day no questions asked warranty so I intend to do my best to break it in the next 30 days, I already dropped it right on its shoulder buttons before I ever even turned it on for the first time and it was none the worse for wear. It's also as mash-proof as I was hoping it would be. I'm slightly concerned that the L2 and R2 buttons may break in my pocket not from mashing but from catching up under their lips and pulling/levering but I guess we'll see. Unfortunately I may not realize it if they are since as I said they don't function in HID mode. I will make a point of testing them as I near my cut-off date if I'm still not using them for games.
If the SteelSeries wasn't twice the price, I might have considered it since it is definitely smaller and I'm not surprised to hear that it has a nice feel since it looked like it had a nice build quality but the Playpad is acceptable in this department and it is the only mobile gamepad that has four shoulder buttons.
Xbox 360 wireless controller
I just use my xbox 360 controller with the wireless usb adapter, which you could get from amazon for under $20 and the usb/bt joycenter app (paid) with touch server. The controller navigates the tablet out of the box, but needs the app to play emulators and touch games like modern combat and nova. I get to use my wireless xbox 360 controller on my pc as well with the adapter which I already had. The only thing I had to buy was the app which I think was like 6 dollars. Works fine for me.
It's better now
It works great now. Especially for emulators. Every button works on Mupen64 and ePSXe, even both analogue sticks.
Is Touch Mapping supported?
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Has anyone used these with the transformer? They obviously look made for the ipad but the little bit I've seen on other threads about android seems like speculation and that no one has really tried them.
Just curious why these aren't catching on better. They seem like they would be a game changer.
What's the advantage over a usb / Bluetooth joystick? I can see a big disadvantage (other than that this is ugly as sin), in that I can't use it with any of my other devices. Don't see any real advantage, though.
How bout the fact that not every game supports gamepad/joysticks? This thing is supposed to work with any on-screen joystick. Seems like a winner to me considering how android apps have compatibility issues between devices a lot.
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How bout the fact that not every game supports gamepad/joysticks? This thing is supposed to work with any on-screen joystick. Seems like a winner to me considering how android apps have compatibility issues between devices a lot.
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There's "work", and there's "work". It seems to me that it will only work properly with on-screen joysticks that are exactly the right size and layout, etc.
I just don't see this as being a real solution to a real problem.
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There's "work", and there's "work". It seems to me that it will only work properly with on-screen joysticks that are exactly the right size and layout, etc.
I just don't see this as being a real solution to a real problem.
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Now that definitely could be a problem, but I have only played a couple games with virtual joysticks and those it "seems" will work with it. At $20 for a pair of them, its not exactly a big gamble to try them. Maybe the OP will get a set and let us know.
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Now that definitely could be a problem, but I have only played a couple games with virtual joysticks and those it "seems" will work with it. At $20 for a pair of them, its not exactly a big gamble to try them. Maybe the OP will get a set and let us know.
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Check eBay or dealextreme -- if you're willing to wait on a Hong Kong shipment you can get a pair for about half that price.
I have. Awesome. Only buy one though. 2 isn't need. Used it for galaxy on fire 2 and controlled much better. About to load Nova 2.
You can place them anywhere and it works great. Took 2 months to get. For $15 they're awesome.
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Ya know what guys? I think i might just throw down on the old fling joystick review. I'm gonna dump some cash into these things and then a little more cash on a few more games and let you guys know what i find out.
I have depended on XDA to find answers to my gadget questions for all these years and have finally found one that no one has answered (or no one cares about). In any event I feel like its my calling...
The reason why they work so well is because they give you something to "find" without looking. Without a physical material you can't tell where your thumb or finger lands on a flat surface. When playing games where there is fast movement like shooters or the likes, occasionally you will "loose contact" with the thumb control and you will have to recreate that contact which requires taking your eye off of the gameplay to look at the onscreen controls.
This is a brilliant device (overly priced for plastic, should be $1 lol). But it provides pretty strong resistance when you play. That resistance gives you fine control over movement. You also don't get "tacky" thumb where it becomes hard to slide smoothly.
Really truly a slick little accessory to have. I bought 2 just to have. You probably don't need more then 1 at a time, as the right side usually has more controls to use... But it took me almost 6 weeks to get it because of a shipping error (they forgot to ship it) so I'm glad I got 2 in case one breaks.
You could also probably make one of these out of rubber bands and suction cups if you can find a thumb pad that works on the screen.
On taobao, the fling joystick sells for about $6-7. Not too bad, I will probably order one or two.
I'd really like to get a fling mini joystick for my Huawei X5. That would be awesome for gaming on my phone. Anyone seen them for sale in China?
Also, in China there is also a more retro style joystick, like on arcade games. I'm sure you could find it one one ebay, if you like it. And no, I'm not a seller of these. I just typed "fling joystick" into taobao and found this.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12205018643
I just bought two fling joysticks for $9 off taobao. Hope they live up to the hype.
Just got my two fling joysticks in today:
Games played:
Gorilla Bob
Death worm
Pew Pew 2
Samurai II
The good: I think the fling joysticks idea would make for excellent buttons. When placed over onscreen buttons, they work really well:
The bad: The problem is the joystick radius is too small. In Pew Pew 2 and Deathworm, the joy stick does not extend to edge of the onscreen joystick, so you move really really slow.
The Ugly:
It's dirt cheap plastic. I feel like I'm going to break them every time I use them. I have a feeling the won't last a week in my tablet case. The first time I set down my backpack wrong, they will be broken. Secondly, they don't slide too well. If they don't make flat contact with the tablet, they may not register.
Death worm, Pew Pew 2, and Samurai II all had the problem of not matching the onscreen joystick.
Gorilla Bob was a perfect fit to the onscreen keyboard. But the fling joystick just isn't that accurate. I found myself dying a lot more than usual.
The potential silver lining:
I think the fling joystick may work very well over a onscreen dpad, i.e. emulator. The do not work well on onscreen analog sticks.
Comparison to other joysticks with my score:
360 Controller: 10
PS3 Controller: 9
Onscreen Android analog joystick: 6-7
Fling Joystick: 1-4
Advertised price: $20 (USD)
My Cost: $9
What I feel they are worth: $2
Might be better over onscreen dpad. Will test that later.
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The bad: The problem is the joystick radius is too small. In Pew Pew 2 and Deathworm, the joy stick does not extend to edge of the onscreen joystick, so you move really really slow.
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Which is what I said previously:
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It's a gimmick, really. There's zero chance these will get popular enough that programmers will start coding their games specifically to ensure they're usable with these devices, and until they do, it's a lottery as to whether the device will work properly with any given game.
So after i gave away my smaller moga controller in a giveaway(winner will be announced July 5th) i decided to order the moga pro and give my perspective on it. this controller is a must have for hardcore mobile gamers, especially with console like quality games releasing everyday. This controller only retails for $49.99 so it's very affordable. And with enough feed back from you guys im def giving this away once i throw up a few more videos on it. tell me what you guys think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-HBdCjmIc
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So after i gave away my smaller moga controller in a giveaway(winner will be announced July 5th) i decided to order the moga pro and give my perspective on it. this controller is a must have for hardcore mobile gamers, especially with console like quality games releasing everyday. This controller only retails for $49.99 so it's very affordable. And with enough feed back from you guys im def giving this away once i throw up a few more videos on it. tell me what you guys think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-HBdCjmIc
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It really is affordable. But only if you live in the states. International shipping is heaps too expensive.
lambstone said:
It really is affordable. But only if you live in the states. International shipping is heaps too expensive.
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This is available from Game.co.uk if you live in the UK. I used flubit.com and got it for £34.99 and it came delivered from Game.:laugh:
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This is available from Game.co.uk if you live in the UK. I used flubit.com and got it for £34.99 and it came delivered from Game.:laugh:
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Yeah, unfortunately I'm in Australia. Shipping from UK is expensive too.
Just posted a very detailed review of MOGA Pro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351418
Check out my other reviews in signature links, all very detailed write up of the latest accessories and gadgets for your smartphone and tablets!
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any uk folk still after this, game.co.uk have this in stock at the moment. i've just ordered mine, will post back once it arrives to report if it's actually any better/worse than the many other awful blutooth controllers for android phones
fingers crossed this one's half decent
Another cheap alternative to this if you dont have to have wireless is a OTG Usb cable and hooking up a PS3 controller, works PERFECT and no need to be rooted or no drivers to install
plug in and play
you can use it over bluetooth if you are rooted
received this yesterday and i'm really happy with it. much better than the nyko and other android controllers i've tried. works best on moga enhanced games like dead trigger and gta iii. these games auto-detect when the moga is connected and adjust the control system accordingly. so there is no need to remap buttons or change any settings, these games just work out of the box so to speak.
for other games, the moga can make use of the HID mode. this is great for emulators where you can map each button to match whichever corresponding button in the emulator.
only problem is that the "select" button can not be mapped, as it always acts as the "back" button (same as the back button at the bottom of the phone itself). this is the same on every wireless controller i've tried though. i think the ps3 dual shock 3 controller can be mapped correctly, but without root this needs to be plugged in.
also, it took me a while to work out the axis mapping on epsxe, as these are not mapped by pressing the triggers or using the sticks, but must be selected manually. this took a bit of trial and error, so to save you the trouble, here are the settings that work......these may work for other controllers too?
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_BRAKE
R2 Stick = AXIS_GAS
If you do not set the axis correctly, they will simply not operate within the psx games.
I also set analogue range to Circle rather than Square.
now that all my emulators are set up, i'm very happy with this controller. it works well, holds the phone nicely, isn't too heavy and is very responsive. would recommend this controller certainly over any other i've tried, unless you are rooted or don't mind using a wired controller, in which case stick with the ps3 ds3, that's the ultimate conroller and works flawlessly.
Hey guys, so, I know there's a lot of you out there who are thinking of getting a controller for your shield tablet, thinking you should get a console controller w/ bluetooth or something of that nature, but I honestly think this is the best controller out there, despite some of its flaws. This isn't really a professional review, just some pictures and captions xP But I think it'll give people an idea of what to expect. The pictures were relatively big, 4000x3000, so I had to resize them all to 1024x768 on postimg. You can click the thumbnails to get a better view.
So as far as the box goes, there's nothing really much to say, it's mostly in chinese.
There's not much inside the box. Just the controller, a charge cable that's about 3 meters long, and an instruction manual.
The sheer size of this thing after first holding it literally had me laughing for about 10 minutes, just actually taking in that I'm holding this gaming device that is now about 13.5" long was just funny xD
After playing with this thing for an hour or two, going back to the Vita, the Vita felt extremely tiny in comparison.
This thing has three modes to pair, each is selected by turning the controller on while holding either X, Y, or A and pressing the home button at the same time. There is Keyboard, Gamepad(What you'd use), and mouse mode. Gamepad is X+Home.
Showing off Black Ops 2 played through Gamestream here:
The controller works very well with gamestream, practically no input lag AT ALL, but there is some video lag though that's NVIDIA's fault and will hopefully be lowered in the later months/years.
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Now, onto some actual reviewy type stuff, the pros and cons. The build quality for this controller is absolutely FANTASTIC for $30, It feels much better than my Moga Pro in every aspect except portability, but for a tablet I'm sure you aren't expecting that anyway. The sticks feel amazing to the touch and have just the right amount of resistance, both the face buttons and the top buttons feel nice, just everything feels great and it's hard to believe this thing only costs $30, but there are some cons.
Not exactly a con: Ports
The ports are hidden as you have the controller fit as snug as possible, but it is completely possible to raise the tablet up higher while it's in the controller and have every port shown while still having a tight fit. It'll look something along the lines of this.
I kid you not I was flinging this controller up and down and left and right and even with the tablet in that high, it didn't budge at all, this controller holds your device in very well.
Pro: Works with Gamemapper
For some reason it's 2015 and we still have FPS games that don't have native gamepad support(NOVA 3). Luckily, just hold the start button and you can bring up NVIDIA's gamemapper.
(60/40) Con: D-PAD
Don't get me wrong, this is a really great D-PAD...For everything other than fighters. It feels nice, it works almost perfectly, the problem is, diagonal inputs don't read as naturally as they should. You have to kind of put more effort into getting the D-PAD in the diagonal portion of the gate to correctly get a hadouken or whatever you want out. It's kind of frustrating. A side note, for some reason, the Home button doesn't work at all. Not sure if I have a broken controller or if it just doesn't work correctly with Lollipop.
Con: L2/R2 (LT/RT for you X360 users)
Even though they feel nice to press, I can't get over the fact that these are just buttons, and not actual triggers. I don't even want to try a racing game with Gamestream because of how much it'd fail. They work fine with everything else though.
All in all, this is a very nice controller, and even with those cons, I'd recommend it to ANYONE looking for a controller for ANY tablet. Definitely the best bang for your buck.
MY SCORE: 9/10
You can purchase the controller really cheap at:
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While riding bart (public transportation), I was thinking of getting a handheld gaming system to keep my entertained on my hour long ride. However, I figured why not use the phone? It's a octa-car and can play most (if not all) 3D action games and such. So I did some research and I have two choices:
1. Put together a gaming kit with a PS3 Dualshock 3 controller, OTG Cable & USB, a phone clip
2. Get the Moga Pro Power gamepad.
The only major concern I have with the Moga, is the fact that it's primarily only a bluetooth controller. I'm not sure if I'm the only one here, but the bluetooth sucks on this phone. I love the V10, but bluetooth functionality is so unreliable. I get choppy music playback on all my stereo kits, and I know it works with Samsung and Apple devices - so it's the phone.
Rant aside, I was thinking of going with option 1, because I have the ability to use both bluetooth or wired connection for the controller to work with the phone. Though I like the all-in-one Moga controller, everything is already put together with some software to help it along the way. I am rooted, so I'm not scared to do my own research to make stuff work with my phone in terms of setting up the initial connection, but I just want to pick an item that will stick and offer a lag free experience.
I was thinking of just buying everything and return what doesn't work, but I don't like doing that.
Thanks
I have a Moga (the basic and cheaper one) and it just work with few games and the app for my controll is the same for the expensive one, beside that, my controll works great with EMULATORS like Mame, SNES, etc... If I was you I would probably prefer the ps controll with otg...
Desde V10 (LG-H901)
I have pro power and had it linked I never had any real issue with it. It worked great! I have it to the wife so she can use it now I am using steel series great controller but no clip a very big downfall so I don't play much games on my phone anymore
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I have pro power and had it linked I never had any real issue with it. It worked great! I have it to the wife so she can use it now I am using steel series great controller but no clip a very big downfall so I don't play much games on my phone anymore
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Thanks for the suggestions, I went with the Moga Power A, because I like the feel of the XBox like form controller. So far the performance is excellent! I actually do not have any issues with it, and I've been playing native and emulator games with no struggles.
Thanks again for your responses.
Hi guys,
Wondering if any one had any suggestions for a compact but solid and reliable gamepad (vice-style) that fits and works well with this phone.
I had a Razer Phone 2 with the Razer Junglecat before this phone and I am used to this quality build - if anyone has ideas would be appreciated.
thanks
I am waiting for the razer kishi to be released : https://www.razer.com/eu-en/gaming-controllers/razer-kishi
It's build in collaboration with the guys from gamevice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...like-mobile-game-controller-gamepad-junglecat
What type of gaming do you do on your phone?
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Looking at stadia is it any good? Would be good to pair with a game pad like that
This razer kishi is built especially for cloud gaming thanks to its zero latency USB-c connection to the phone.
No Bluetooth required.
Yeah....well the whole reason I wrote this thread is because I am sick and tired of waiting for the Razer damn Kishi to come out....was announced ages ago ...been waiting and waiting too long
I'm also impatiently waiting.
The Glap controller though bulky could probably do the trick. https://www.samsung.com/uk/mobile-accessories/glap-gamepad/
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I'm also impatiently waiting.
The Glap controller though bulky could probably do the trick. https://www.samsung.com/uk/mobile-accessories/glap-gamepad/
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this looks very good!!
Yes it doesnt look that portable (especially as i am used to the jungle cat which took up less space than my wallet!!)
However if i was to get something this big i am a bit fussy with the right analogue stick i prefer it below the buttons just like the Xbox style...this is what i am used to.
I already have one that looks very similar to this as well - the IPEGA PG-9023...it was also a lot cheaper!!
Would the Samsung have much better build quality and lag-free connection?
Also a question - is the Razer Kishi going to be wired only or will there be a Bluetooth option?
I have never used any Ipega products but I have heard that the controllers suffer from analog stick dead zones which are not present in the Glap.
According to the Verge's article, the kishi has no built-in battery. It will use the phones power so it's very unlikely that it will have Bluetooth.
Been looking at reviews on Youtube - the one below looks like a pretty good bet - he says the Coolpad Legacy fits in perfectly and Oneplus 8 Pro has pretty close dimensions to that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pm876OiKw
gothikserpent said:
I have never used any Ipega products but I have heard that the controllers suffer from analog stick dead zones which are not present in the Glap.
According to the Verge's article, the kishi has no built-in battery. It will use the phones power so it's very unlikely that it will have Bluetooth.
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Yes you are right they do. the difference between my junglecat and the ipega is so noticable. the junglecat is so responsive......i also have a Moga Hero Power which i think is excellent - however this has now become a legacy product and you cant even get the app on the play store anymore and you need it to connect the game pad - i have to download the apk manually to get it paired...but it is very good!
If the junglecat doesnt have a built in battery then forget it
I've been using the ipega extendible for a while now. I have the Moga pro, out of the two of them i prefer the ipega, plus it was only £20 Vs £49.99
That razer device looks like it's going to fall apart. The ipega is solid, it can hold an iPad.
dladz said:
I've been using the ipega extendible for a while now. I have the Moga pro, out of the two of them i prefer the ipega, plus it was only £20 Vs £49.99
That razer device looks like it's going to fall apart. The ipega is solid, it can hold an iPad.
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which razer device are you referring to? I have the junglecat and can confirm it is solid as a rock, zero latency, and the button are perfect.
nk33 said:
which razer device are you referring to? I have the junglecat and can confirm it is solid as a rock, zero latency, and the button are perfect.
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The one listed. Buttons look good but the middle section doesn't. The ipega is built like a tank.
Latency is extremely low.
I've used a tonne of pads and that's the best one up until now.
dladz said:
The one listed. Buttons look good but the middle section doesn't. The ipega is built like a tank.
Latency is extremely low.
I've used a tonne of pads and that's the best one up until now.
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I have 3 ipegas and the latency is high and the deadzones are terrible
the one listed ??? theres 2 in this thread - kishi and junglecat - just name the one you are talking about - whats with the riddles lol
nk33 said:
I have 3 ipegas and the latency is high and the deadzones are terrible
the one listed ??? theres 2 in this thread - kishi and junglecat - just name the one you are talking about - whats with the riddles lol
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First off, calm down ok? Theres no need to act the way you are, alright?
Secondly the one I was referring to was the kishi, it looks like it's going to have problems, the construction of the middle isn't great.
3rd, I've got the ipega extendible, not sure if you've had this one but I do, there are no problems with input lag, depending on how you've set it up, the analogues can be seen as digital, I haven't set mine up like that, no problems with deadzones, I've finished tonnes of games using it
Thats my input, you asked for a vice like controller..is there any need to bash a suggestion? Or talk the way you are? Several ?????? It's childish, you didn't mention what controllers you'd used besides one.
Perhaps you could be clearer when you articulate yourself during thread creation, if you don't like a suggestion then say so, no need to bash it, try to be polite
I'm pretty calm mate ...all good
Yeah i got the extendible as well... joysticks are so far off its a killer for me. All depends on the quality you're used to i guess....IMO u get what u pay for in general and thats why Ipega stuff is so cheap
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First off, calm down ok? Theres no need to act the way you are, alright?
Secondly the one I was referring to was the kishi, it looks like it's going to have problems, the construction of the middle isn't great.
3rd, I've got the ipega extendible, not sure if you've had this one but I do, there are no problems with input lag, depending on how you've set it up, the analogues can be seen as digital, I haven't set mine up like that, no problems with deadzones, I've finished tonnes of games using it
Thats my input, you asked for a vice like controller..is there any need to bash a suggestion? Or talk the way you are? Several ?????? It's childish, you didn't mention what controllers you'd used besides one.
Perhaps you could be clearer when you articulate yourself during thread creation, if you don't like a suggestion then say so, no need to bash it, try to be polite
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Good to know you have no issues with your Ipega. That being said, Razer is a gaming company and they have an awesome track record when it comes to some of the best build quality out there.
I use cloud gaming services quite a lot and having the lowest latency means plugging in my computer to a gigabit Ethernet port and using a wired xbox controller.
If you want the best possible experience on android the same applies here, a physical USB-C connection to the phone will always be better than Bluetooth IMO. When cloud gaming, Bluetooth adds an extra layer of latency; with time this will get better but for now that's how it is.
I guess its up to the buyer to determine if the price of the Kishi is worth it
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Good to know you have no issues with your Ipega. That being said, Razer is a gaming company and they have an awesome track record when it comes to some of the best build quality out there.
I use cloud gaming services quite a lot and having the lowest latency means plugging in my computer to a gigabit Ethernet port and using a wired xbox controller.
If you want the best possible experience on android the same applies here, a physical USB-C connection to the phone will always be better than Bluetooth IMO. When cloud gaming, Bluetooth adds an extra layer of latency; with time this will get better but for now that's how it is.
I guess its up to the buyer to determine if the price of the Kishi is worth it
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I agree I game on PC, I wouldn't dream of partying using wireless.
That being said I've had no issues with the ipega, perhaps it's unit based, even the 1+8pro has differences between units, green tint, touch lag, camera flares.
If the razer device works for you then stick with that.
If it suits your needs the the price is collateral
Ok - so the Razer Kishi just came out - specs below
and it seems the dimensions are 1.5mm too small for the length of the oneplus 8 Pro...if anyone has a kishi and can confirm if it fits please let me know
Center aligned USB-C or lightning port
Android
Operating System: Android™ 8.0 Oreo or higher
Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+/S9/S9+/S10/S10+/S20/S20+/Note 8/Note 9/Note 10/Note 10+
Google Pixel 2/2 XL/3/3XL/4/4XL
Razer Phone 1 & 2 (grip inserts available from customer support)
Other devices within supported dimensions (H: 145.3 – 163.7mm, W: 68.2-78.1mm, D: 7.0-8.8mm)
iOS
Operating System: iOS 9 or higher
iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max, iPhone XR/XS/XS Max
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Ok - so the Razer Kishi just came out - specs below
and it seems the dimensions are 1.5mm too small for the length of the oneplus 8 Pro...if anyone has a kishi and can confirm if it fits please let me know
Center aligned USB-C or lightning port
Android
Operating System: Android™ 8.0 Oreo or higher
Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+/S9/S9+/S10/S10+/S20/S20+/Note 8/Note 9/Note 10/Note 10+
Google Pixel 2/2 XL/3/3XL/4/4XL
Razer Phone 1 & 2 (grip inserts available from customer support)
Other devices within supported dimensions (H: 145.3 – 163.7mm, W: 68.2-78.1mm, D: 7.0-8.8mm)
iOS
Operating System: iOS 9 or higher
iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max, iPhone XR/XS/XS Max
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Boredatwork confirmed that it works with the oneplus 8 pro :