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Hi I would like to know if anybody is considering dumping the s4 for a nexus 5 I'm definitely considering getting that Nexus 5 the only thing that I feel bad is losing the SD card and my battery being removal on S4 but if it's going to be 3000 mAh then it would be ok cuz im sure ill get you through a full day
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Dumping the S4 and possibly my Verizon contract...
I'll get rid of the S4 if Nexus 5 comes with sdcard, better screen and better battery life. Otherwise it'll end up as a bluetooth audio player in my car, same as the old Nexus 4. And it's gotta be way more resilient than the N4 to be daily driver.
Dumping mine as well. Tired of Samsung os updates taking forever on the Canadian devices after international updates are released. Also not a fan of knox with not giving the ability to return to complete stock for resale. Battery size isn't a big issue as the n5 will not have all the battery draining extras and I hear 4.4 will be better on battery life. No as card isn't a big deal for me either as I already have a usb otg cable.
Have to love Google's marketing strategies... don't say a word about the device and let the people create it's own hype/Buzz.
Should be able to flip the s4 for a n5 and have enough for a case... which I have already ordered
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keeping my s4 getting a nexus 5 dumping Samsung all together .
I dumped Samsung after the s3. I've had multiple Samsung phones up until that point but the Amoled screens just can't compete with the beauty of a LCD.
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CrashTestDroid said:
I'll get rid of the S4 if Nexus 5 comes with sdcard, better screen and better battery life. Otherwise it'll end up as a bluetooth audio player in my car, same as the old Nexus 4. And it's gotta be way more resilient than the N4 to be daily driver.
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There won't be a SD card slot. Google has made it clear that they will never put a SD card slot on any nexus device. Reason being is they want u to use the cloud.
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Dumping my ATT GS4 for the Nexus 5....solely due to the locked MF3 bootloader on the GS4....
I even have and use a 64gb SD card and have 4 batteries for the GS4...it's just such a laggy POS I will give all that up for a stock android experience.
I sold my S4 just a few days ago for the Nexus 5 wait.
The Knox bootloader was the last in a long line of disappointments by Samdung. The screen tearing was quite annoying as well. I'm actually looking forward to a non-AMOLED screen. IPS is a better option.
Yes also considering it...once its all announced that is...
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I am for sure dumping mine. Reason? MF3 and lag
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DowntownJeffBrown said:
I dumped Samsung after the s3. I've had multiple Samsung phones up until that point but the Amoled screens just can't compete with the beauty of a LCD.
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There won't be a SD card slot. Google has made it clear that they will never put a SD card slot on any nexus device. Reason being is they want u to use the cloud.
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I see this reason stated all the time and it's simply not true.
Read this article from Android Central from last year... It's got the real explanation. For those that won't read, it's because Google prefers to have one volume with an emulated SD card. Not because they want to force you onto their cloud storage.
http://m.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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lwfb said:
I see this reason stated all the time and it's simply not true.
Read this article from Android Central from last year... It's got the real explanation. For those that won't read, it's because Google prefers to have one volume with an emulated SD card. Not because they want to force you onto their cloud storage.
http://m.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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I read the site but I think that is BS.
"We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google"
That makes no sense to me. Are they talking phones like the Sensation 4G that had 4GB ROM space and SD Card. Well a very easy fix. Give us 16GB or 32GB and SD Card and problem solved. We have enough space for all the apps we want and we can have removable storage for unlimited space. I personally don't care that much on a phone like the Nexus 4 I had, but when I had the Nexus 7, I really wanted an SD Card. I think that was more of a lame answer than the true reason.
Thats good to know that im not the only one considering dumping the s4 and I know that everybody has their own reasons I just like the nice clean stock android fill and look
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I'm definitely getting rid of the S4 and getting the Nexus 5.
I got the S4 at launch, so the newly relocked MF3 (AT&T) bootloader isn't a problem for me, but the idea of it is. The fact that Samsung is releasing all these new phones with locked bootloader, maybe anti-root kernel, and now regional SIM restrictions I am very unhappy. The nexus 4 looked okay, but no LTE = no sale.
Sure, I will miss my SD card, but having a phone that can be bootloader unlocked in a second & knowing there will be lots of development for it (its a Nexus) makes me very excited to get it.
And I love my Nexus 7 2013, its a great device.
Wow i'm glad to see people realizing how crappy phones with 3rd party OS covers like Touchwiz are. N4 stock is much more responsive and virtually lag free, unlike the newer S4
No ill keep my s4 but more than likely pick up a nexus as well.. as long as the release it in white!
Havent had a nexus device since 5 devices ago..im overdue.
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Datsun.510 said:
I read the site but I think that is BS.
"We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google"
That makes no sense to me. Are they talking phones like the Sensation 4G that had 4GB ROM space and SD Card. Well a very easy fix. Give us 16GB or 32GB and SD Card and problem solved. We have enough space for all the apps we want and we can have removable storage for unlimited space. I personally don't care that much on a phone like the Nexus 4 I had, but when I had the Nexus 7, I really wanted an SD Card. I think that was more of a lame answer than the true reason.
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I agree with you. I don't see any plausible reason to not include both 16/32 GB internal plus removable storage nowadays.
Nevertheless, I don't think it's a conspiracy to keep people on the cloud.
I also agree that on a tablet it's much more useful to have an SD card than on a phone, since tablets are media consumption devices by design.
I've made my peace with it though and have adapted, but I can appreciate other user's reasons for wanting removable storage.
Luckily we have choice with Android and multiple vendors produce excellent hardware to accommodate any user.
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I am also dumping my note 2..though it is a good device but the newer samsung devices has so much restrictions like region lock,knox bootloader and exynos processors which nobody likes....looking forward for my first nexus device
CEaton said:
Dumping my ATT GS4 for the Nexus 5....solely due to the locked MF3 bootloader on the GS4....
I even have and use a 64gb SD card and have 4 batteries for the GS4...it's just such a laggy POS I will give all that up for a stock android experience.
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locked bootloader? what a joke. But the main problem with S4 is bad stock firmware. My S4 would've been out the car window at freeway speeds if I had to deal with laggy, battery-gobbling TW bloatware.
donalgodon said:
I sold my S4 just a few days ago for the Nexus 5 wait.
The Knox bootloader was the last in a long line of disappointments by Samdung. The screen tearing was quite annoying as well. I'm actually looking forward to a non-AMOLED screen. IPS is a better option.
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I'm hoping the IPS on Nexus 5 is better than S4's amoled but it's unlikely. Try a S4 next to the G2 and see if you'll like LG's IPS. I found it less suitable for indoors (backlight bleed, low contrast) and you can't get the same range of saturation or color profiles like AMOLED. IIRC the contrast is a limitation of all backlit screen technology, same with limited color gamut & intensity. It's still a good tradeoff for unlocked bootloader, guaranteed best dev support, S800 w LTE.
Me 2 and Verizon can't wait
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What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
I was in the same dilemma.
I decided to go for the Nexus 5 because its a Nexus.
The main difference in hardware between the two for me is the screen size. I wanted the bigger screen on the G2.
But I decided I want to pay less and get a device with better software
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What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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The nexus is pure stock android which is fully stable .
On benchmarks it benches better than the G2 and is much cheaper.
If you love stock android then the Nexus 5 is the greatest phone you can currently get.
Tip:
Also don't try to use the term CFW (Custom Firmware), people on xda won't usually know it, use the word ROM (Read Only Memory).
I find this is actually funny because we have root in them and we can make everything read-write
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LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Also I don't live in America but I heard that you can't run the nexus 5 with Verizon.
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So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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LouieeeV said:
So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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Google never allows sd cards in the nexus devices. They never will. They say they are too slow for a top end type device.
Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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The G2 has the screen size, battery and camera advantages which is not something to overlook, if they were closely priced I'd go for the G2. Now if you can get some dough off due to contract extension and plan to stay with your carrier, the G2 can still be an attractive offer. Overall though, buying both unlocked and the Nexus 5 is just so awesomely priced. So it's a matter of looking at your options.
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Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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That is what I got. I have a 64gb card in my sgs3, so it will be hard, but the thing that makes it worth it, is how easy it is to dev/hack.
Haha, i was on the same boat. I love the G2 Screen and the lack of bezel. Overall the decision came down to software and speed. I always go with a custom ROM cause i like stock, (yes u can do this on the g2) but the fact that i will be getting the latest and greatest updates first is a huge + for me. Thus why i decided on the Nexus.
I say go Nexus!.
Nexus is looking like a go especially with 4g and unlimited data on T-Mobile sounds pretty good to me so far
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
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How you can be a recognized contributor and come out with such a poor statement is quite scary...
Anyway it is VERY close.
The G2 has a bigger screen, yet only a fraction larger. (~1mm all around). And weigh's in negligible over the N5 yet has a 3000mah battery instead of 2300. Then it has a 13mp camera with the same tech as the 8mp Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
They share the same CPU/GPU/Ram. The Nexus 5 will likely be quicker due to KitKat/AOSP, but it will only be a matter of weeks and the G2 will have that also so if having it first is important to you, then again N5.
They also share the same radios/spectrums/etc.. so N5 is unlocked vs LG G2 probably/possibly being locked to one carrier. Important factor for some.
Clearly I don't think one is a "winner", I have the G2, and I pre-ordered the N5. I want to check out KitKat and see how it performs/battery life with only 2300mah but KitKat optimized. I plan to pick the winner (for me) once I have them side by side for a while.
Either way, they are most CERTAINLY close. The question is (in most markets) is ~$150-200 worth a bigger screen/battery/camera and the loss of immediate updates/better rom development. In that case, for most, the answer seems to be no.
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The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
Simba501 said:
Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
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Absolutely, if your only importance is ROM's and having the latest software first, or the longest amount of support for updates, then it is not close.
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life. The G2 is a battery monster, so I expect to be disappointed by the N5, but I absolutely hope I am wrong. Also in some countries the price is almost negligible. Plus if you have an upgrade and stick with the same carrier anyway, you can have the G2 for $150-200 vs $440 (32gb vs 32gb), so that is another factor. A lot goes in to play for this. Just simply saying it is cheaper is not enough.
When comparing ALL factors though, I stand by my previous statements. Personally I wouldn't let development allow me to be hooked to only owning a Nexus but that is absolutely the key factor for some people, I get that. Battery life is a huge importance to me and until I can see how it lasts with my own eyes I take the specs with a truckload of salt. With a 30% less battery size on the same hardware KitKat is going to have to do some pretty superb savings to keep it close.
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If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
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If you looked at hardware specs only and no other factors, it is NOT close. The G2 wins hands down if you take out software and price, but that would be just plain silly.
In case anyone misinterprets my statements, I am not saying I think one is better than the other. I think both have their +'s and personally I don't find either a clear winner. That is all.
While I'm still going with the N5 for the rom support, Sprint is selling the N5 for $149 and the G2 for $99 (both with 2 year contracts), so the G2 actually wins the price debate.
Edit: whoops had too many tabs open and got this thread confused with one that was just for Sprint. Still, I imagine TMo will sell the G2 for either the same price or less than the N5 to stay competitive.
If usbOTG is present in the N5 then you can simply attach a microsd card to a microsd to USB to the usbOTG adapter (too many adapters) or simply a flashdrive. While it may be a pain to carry around it will at least extend the capacity.
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crawlgsx said:
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life.
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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haha too funny, I agree 100%. SD and Removable battery mean 0 to me, always have.
But yeah I get it :good:
I have a tough question to decide on, which one is better and which one should I keep ?
I like the build and design of Galaxy. Also the screen seems to be better and colors are not washed out.
4.4 is coming to S4 GE anytime soon as well.
I've got both but S4 i9505. Personally speaking just my views and opinion I prefer the AMOLED screen the blacks are stunning as always. But the whites on the IPS panel are better.
The S4 has the removable battery and expandable storage along with the IR blaster and more real estate on the screen due to no on screen buttons.
Obviously the N5 has the faster CPU and GPU but the S600 isn't a slouch either.
The N5 will have much superior development compared to the GE edition if you want everything working correctly.
The S4 is still a great phone but you can decide which to keep.
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I am in the same boat. The only answer I can think if is the following
When the S4 gets Kitkat do the following
Week 1: Use the Nexus 5 exclusively
Week 2: Use the S4 exclusively
Week 3: Go back to the Nexus
If you make it the entire 3 weeks, you should probably keep the Nexus.
In the end both phones are top of the line and most people would be happy with either.
I myself are in the same dilemma and that is what I am going to do... Or get a Note 3
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From the reviews on the web, it looks like Nexus 5 camera is inferior to Galaxy S4 GE.
Is this right ?
Not going to lie if they were both the same price i would get the s4. I personally like amoled . I also like the remote feature. The sdcard slot is an added bonus but not really NEEDED for my use. However since they are so far apart in price nexus 5 for me.
So, 4.4 KitKat is available now on GS4 GE (i9505G).
Short story - it's still slower and less fluid than Nexus 5.
So I guess I will keep Nexus 5 and sell GS4.
Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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I'm on other hand, staying on Nexus 5 32gb is enough for my needs and I really like the faster response.
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Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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I've always wondered... why do people put movies on their phone? Surely it isn't a pleasant experience to watch a 5'' screen for an hour and a half.
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Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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Flexibility with roms? The s4 is no where near as flexible. I suppose you have an i337 too
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Flexibility with roms? The s4 is no where near as flexible. I suppose you have an i337 too
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Flexibility in the sense I can have both Touchwiz and stock android options. Especially with the GPE S4
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I've always wondered... why do people put movies on their phone? Surely it isn't a pleasant experience to watch a 5'' screen for an hour and a half.
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Kids for one, they are always using my phone.
Plus it is just easier to have the phone all the time instead of my tablet.
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I'm still using my good old galaxy s3 right now and I'm asking myself why I can't find a replacement phone that suits my needs.. Every phone out there I have some sort of issue with. I like the LG g2, but I hate the buttons on the back. I like the nexus 5 but I hate that there isn't an SD card slot. Some of the newer samsung phones come close, but I don't want Knox or any of that garbage bs or a locked bootloader.
I guess my perfect phone would be a nexus 5 with an SD card slot and a slightly better camera. Or an LG g2 with buttons on the side instead of back. Sony makes some nice phones hardware wise but I hate the look of them. When will someone release a phone with
5-5.2 inch screen
SD card slot
13+ mp camera
Buttons on the side instead of the back
Unlocked bootloader
This is where that Lego concept of building phones would be nice. Hopefully Google stays on top of that and moves forward with it.
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There is no such thing, that's why there are so much options in market.
Nothing is perfect , every phone has upside and downside aspect
no one can in this world can earn the title of "Perfect" or a thing (except game with says "perfect" sentence)
every technology in this world always have progression that human being invented (not sure if alien exist)
there is no))) as many people as many minds
bdithug said:
ISony makes some nice phones hardware wise but I hate the look of them. When will someone release a phone with
5-5.2 inch screen
SD card slot
13+ mp camera
Buttons on the side instead of the back
Unlocked bootloader
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I mean, I know you said you had the look of the Sony phones, but take the Xperia ZL:
5-5.2 inch screen? :good:
SD Card slot? :good:
13+ mp camera? :good:
Buttons on side instead of back? :good:
Unlocked bootloader? :good:
All of the features you want are there in a phone like the Xperia ZL, and it doesn't look that bad. The phone you want has been released. Perhaps you should re-consider?
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I mean, I know you said you had the look of the Sony phones, but take the Xperia ZL:
5-5.2 inch screen? :good:
SD Card slot? :good:
13+ mp camera? :good:
Buttons on side instead of back? :good:
Unlocked bootloader? :good:
All of the features you want are there in a phone like the Xperia ZL, and it doesn't look that bad. The phone you want has been released. Perhaps you should re-consider?
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Lol I remember trying the demo of the zl when it was first released. It is a very nice phone and I think the only thing that held me back was the look of it and the price (at the time it was 750$ outright). I'll take a look again to see how much a used one goes for. Thanks
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I was able to get a used one for about $285 on swappa. You can get it for $500 new straight from Sony. Good luck in your search!
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I mean, I know you said you had the look of the Sony phones, but take the Xperia ZL:
5-5.2 inch screen? :good:
SD Card slot? :good:
13+ mp camera? :good:
Buttons on side instead of back? :good:
Unlocked bootloader? :good:
All of the features you want are there in a phone like the Xperia ZL, and it doesn't look that bad. The phone you want has been released. Perhaps you should re-consider?
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The Z1 mini is actually more perfect in my opinion. Smaller size, but still has high-end specifications. The larger screen just makes it unhandy. It shouldn't replace the tablets.
Steffe89 said:
The Z1 mini is actually more perfect in my opinion. Smaller size, but still has high-end specifications. The larger screen just makes it unhandy. It shouldn't replace the tablets.
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Meh, it's a matter of preference and hand-size really. For what the OP listed as the "perfect phone", the ZL is a great match.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the Z Ultra as a tablet replacement. If only it were an inch larger, it would be the perfect 7in tablet.
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Meh, it's a matter of preference and hand-size really. For what the OP listed as the "perfect phone", the ZL is a great match.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the Z Ultra as a tablet replacement. If only it were an inch larger, it would be the perfect 7in tablet.
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You're right. Perhaps SG5 / HTC one 2 / LG3 might be an option for him as well. I guess that's the four mobiles he should be consindering and then walk into a store and make his choice.
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I'm still using my good old galaxy s3 right now and I'm asking myself why I can't find a replacement phone that suits my needs.. Every phone out there I have some sort of issue with. I like the LG g2, but I hate the buttons on the back. I like the nexus 5 but I hate that there isn't an SD card slot. Some of the newer samsung phones come close, but I don't want Knox or any of that garbage bs or a locked bootloader.
I guess my perfect phone would be a nexus 5 with an SD card slot and a slightly better camera. Or an LG g2 with buttons on the side instead of back. Sony makes some nice phones hardware wise but I hate the look of them. When will someone release a phone with
5-5.2 inch screen
SD card slot
13+ mp camera
Buttons on the side instead of the back
Unlocked bootloader
This is where that Lego concept of building phones would be nice. Hopefully Google stays on top of that and moves forward with it.
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Nothing perfect
MarkBVS said:
Galaxy S4 and iphone 5s are the perfect smart phones i have ever used. Features are just excellent.
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Based on the op and what I stated I was looking for, neither of those phones are close to perfection, especially any iPhone
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Wait for the new Htc One,now that will be inovation !
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Well, even Galaxy S3 which is currently owned by you is such a good phone. It can be replaced with Galaxy S4. It's the only phone which suits you needs.
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My LG G2 is almost perfect. Almost because LG could have used better materials. Except for that, it's excellent.
Knox isn't a locked boot loader and your free to flash whatever you want with knox as long as you don't flash another boot loader.
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Knox isn't a locked boot loader and your free to flash whatever you want with knox as long as you don't flash another boot loader.
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Not technically. But it does limit the device.
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Hi i am new in this forum, i have one question any one online......
My htc j butterfly with cm11 aospa paranoid android still the best for me
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Hello, xda'ers!
I have a fairly simple question. S4 is my first smartphone and I love it. At first I hated it because of TW, but now I converted it to basically a GP edition with Danvdh's ROM. Very smooth, haven't seen any lag since the day I flashed it.
The only thing why I'm considering N5 is because of its future proofness. (SD800, A330 instead of S4's SD600 and A320). I consider myself between average and power user. I like to game here and there and so on.
-Non-removable battery
-No SD slot
-Smaller battery
-Weaker camera
+Way better specs
+Constant updates straight from Google
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess)
It all comes down to this: I want N5 because of better specs, updates, dev support and that's it. I've read many articles on these both devices and haven't clearly decided yet, because most of them go for N5 even with all the cons I mentioned. For me, battery life and SD slot (if it's 16GB version) is the most important.
How many of you guys have ditched S4 over the N5? Could you please share your experience and whether if you regret it?
The specs aren't that much better. There's kind of half a generation between them. The One plus would be a more logical step up
Also we only have 9 months left of official updates on the N5. Not sure what you mean by "constant updates". It doesn't get constant updates. It gets fast updates. But not constant. It only gets the minor updates. E.g it got 4.4.2, 4.4.3, 4.4.4. It got nothing in between
It has good developer support but after 9 months when no one is officially updating the official drivers, its going to be like any other unsupported device.
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I just suggest you to wait for a while
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How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Ritvars said:
How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Its fine. In every respect
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Its fine. In every respect
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I had an S3
I cannot recommend any phone over any other phone to some one else as the things I like about it are completely subjective buy I will say for me, I would definitely not want an S4 and would prefer the N5
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Ritvars said:
I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ask someone who has a N5 if you can try it for a minute
Yep the galaxy nexus is a great example Google doesn't support it so roms aren't as stable and my nexus 5 will be the same way although the nexus 5 will be a lot less laggy
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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It seems like cons weighs more than pros, at least for me. Well, I might wait for the Nexus 6, but since I live in EU, the price will be super high (instead of $350, it will cost at least $500 in where I live) I have a chance to sell my S4 for 300 euros right now, and brand new N5 (16gb) costs from 277 here.
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-Non-removable battery -do you even need that(get a juice battery pack and done)?
-No SD slot -32Gb will be fine how much can you put into a phone?
-Smaller battery -yes,but with custom per-app profiles
-Weaker camera -i like it,really fine pictures (my opinion)
+Way better specs -idk what to say here...i'm really pleased with the N5 in terms of gaming,smooth,stability.
+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess) -there is already Android L developer preview
I had iphone before and Nexus was the only android phone that made me ditch the iOS for Android.Had a samsung for a few weeks(hate it) then tryed the Nexus and love it!
Go into a store and try the phone before buy.Idk what to say against S4 didn't used it for long time to give an opinion.
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+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
I had S2,S3,S4 and must say all of this phones where very good (all rooted and on custom roms ). Them my wife got a present and its was a brand new nexus 5. To shorten my story> From that moment that I powered on nexus 5 I never took S4 in my hand ever again. Feels faster,more manly (i have black one), and battery is better or same as S4 + much more fun coz its much easy-er to go from one custom rom to another and it doesn't have that KNOX security sh1t.
Cheers!
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Maybe, but I wouldn't rely on that.