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Upgrading in 2 weeks, really confused!!!

Hi xda'rs I should be upgrading within a couple of weeks, and I'm reallyyyy confused as to what to get, I'm either gonna get the galaxy note 2 or the nexus 4.
I've had a note 1 before and really liked the size but was sometimes a bit pissed off that I had trouble using it one handed so don't know what the note 2 would be like, on the other hand the thought of getting google updates quickly is great, and I'm a big fan of AOSP, usually when I rom I end up putting an AOSP rom on any phone I have, but then I do like the little tweaks of touch wiz.
Soooo as u can see I'm really confused as to what one to get out of the 2 phones, if anyone has used them both or even if people just want to say what they think is better, it probably would really help my decision.
Many thanks
Oh and they're both on contract for £38.
Thanks alot

R: Upgrading in 2 weeks, really confused!!!
Hi i have the note 2 and the grip is better than the note 1. Although i don't have large hands i can use it one handed 90% of times. As far as hw the phones are simillar so the facts that count in your decision are: screen size, battery (in my opinion the best on note 2), upgrades ( aosp best here). Try using/ testing them in stores or of you have friends that have them so tou could decide. Try whatching vs videos on youtube and read about their problems.
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Hi thanks for the reply, I've had a chance to play with both instore and they both are really great, I don't have big hands either that's why I was a bit unsure if it was the right phone for me, but definitely getting the newest android version would be so sweet innit, so the main gripes are either a nice big phone to watch movies and stuff on or a nice phone that's smaller but will get the latest updates???
I've gotta have a real hard think cos I don't wanna regret wasting my upgrade!!
Has anyone used an nexus 4 to watch films and stuff on? How is the experience?

Wait for the Samsung Galaxy S 4.
I guess you could get the N4, but I'm not a fan of no removable battery (it's so useful to just be able to swap batteries for many reasons) and no micro sd slot (when watching movies/etc you'd have to sacrifice internal storage or stream) . If those don't matter to you, it might be different.
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Pennycake said:
Wait for the Samsung Galaxy S 4.
I guess you could get the N4, but I'm not a fan of no removable battery (it's so useful to just be able to swap batteries for many reasons) and no micro sd slot (when watching movies/etc you'd have to sacrifice internal storage or stream) . If those don't matter to you, it might be different.
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Agreed but if you cant wait i say the Nexus 4.

Is the Optimus-g an option? Same specs as nexus 4, but you have lte, a micro sd slot and development is great.
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Which phone is worth getting? (First Android Phone)

Hello XDA ,
So I would like to know from your guys. I own a Samsung Star now and I want to get a new phone. This means my first ever Android phone that I will own (I have used Android before, but those where phones from friends). My question is which phone is the best pick to get.
ill use it mainly for apps (mainly games), whats-app, some internet when on wi-fi.
I personally was thinking about the Nexus 4 which is been sold for €450 here in the Netherlands. But what do you guys think? I would love to have Jelly Bean and a fast phone.
Go ahead and suggest me something but keep it under the Nexus 4 or at the same price as the Nexus 4.
#Robert

Go with the nexus 4. I have it and it's definitely the best in the price range. It's so good in fact I've been thinking about selling my old phones to buy a nexus 4.
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sy224048 said:
Go with the nexus 4. I have it and it's definitely the best in the price range. It's so good in fact I've been thinking about selling my old phones to buy a nexus 4
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100% agree!
If I'd buy a new android phone (I'm sure it would be an android phone ) I would buy a nexus, too.
You'll get OS updates really fast and for quite a long time and you'll have a slim rom without bloatware.
Hope I could help!

Nexus 4 is an excellent choice.

Wait for the S4 or go with Note 2. The S3 is now a lot cheaper with the Note 2 out and the S4 being announced.
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You are a perfect candidate for a nexus 4 Key lime pie will be out in a few months and you can bet the N4 will have it first.
If you know someone in the US, have them buy it for you. Much cheaper!
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The Nexus 4 is a great phone, but the two big things it lacks are an external SD card and removable battery.
Think about how you'll use the phone and if those things might be useful to you. I keep a lot of music on my external SD card so that it doesn't take space away from apps - I don't live in an area where I can just stream everything all the time, do you ?
If you plan on doing things with custom ROMs and such, an external SD card can be a lifesaver, too - and general convenience. But if you don't, the Nexus 4 might be a good choice since it will receive updates without you having to do anything.
Removable battery is nice because if you are buying off-contract, especially, you don't have to worry about babying the battery - the battery will lose so much charge per year no matter if you treated it perfectly. If you're not getting a subsidized upgrade, that might not be something you want to be stuck with. It's also nice to be able to carry a spare battery especially if you're playing games for an extended period of time (I carry one so I can play emulators between classes without having to worry "what if I don't go right home ?").

Nexus 4 is a great mobile but still there are few drawbacks of this mobile.
Consider other similar mobiles in the price range, S3, HTC, Sony etc

Look about this http://www.wikomobile.com/telephone-portable-Cink-Peax.php at €170

Yes, get the nexus 4 !!

Well , that depends what you like , right now the samsung galaxy s4 is the fastest phone , but not the most beautiful and the one who is better made. The most beautiful and the second fastest phone is HTC one , but this one doesnt have a sd card slot. Personally i will get the htc one with contract from vodafone , it will cost 300€ , its the first time i will buy a phone in this mode , but phones are getting bigger and bigger , and rumors already said that nexus 5 will get a 5.2" display. So every year phones get 0.2" bigger , so i will keep the htc until phones start to get smaller.
That was my opinion. Have a great year
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Galaxy S4, it's definitely worth getting

Any HTC, Nexus device.

OPPO Find 5 from oppostyle.com. Best value 1080p phone.

S4!
It is sick!
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The battery and SD card isn't so bad. 16GB is plenty for me! The battery isn't really of a issue. Most of the time the phone will be in standby.
How is the speed btw? Good enough for intensive apps? including games hehe
But I do agree the Nexus 4 is probably my pick but go ahead with suggestion. I already have 108 euros and need 450 so im getting there!!!
Really exited to get my first ever smartphone, android phone. Some of you might think that I am really behind stuff but he im 18 and didn't have the money first :crying: now I'm working hard to earn it so I can get a new phone :laugh:

I'd wait for the S4. I mean, the OS is pretty much the same with every phone, so what you really want to be looking at is specs.
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Nexus 4 is the best. But its available in selected countries only.. !!
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Nexus 4 is the best. But its available in selected countries only.. !!
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I can get it from 4 shops here in the NL. They just import them from the UK I guess. Cheapest is 450 and the website is really good so I trust them!

But in USA its contract base sales. Not via play store currently..!!
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Nexus 5 or LG G2 ?

What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.

I was in the same dilemma.
I decided to go for the Nexus 5 because its a Nexus.
The main difference in hardware between the two for me is the screen size. I wanted the bigger screen on the G2.
But I decided I want to pay less and get a device with better software

LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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The nexus is pure stock android which is fully stable .
On benchmarks it benches better than the G2 and is much cheaper.
If you love stock android then the Nexus 5 is the greatest phone you can currently get.
Tip:
Also don't try to use the term CFW (Custom Firmware), people on xda won't usually know it, use the word ROM (Read Only Memory).
I find this is actually funny because we have root in them and we can make everything read-write
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LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Also I don't live in America but I heard that you can't run the nexus 5 with Verizon.
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So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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LouieeeV said:
So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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Google never allows sd cards in the nexus devices. They never will. They say they are too slow for a top end type device.

Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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The G2 has the screen size, battery and camera advantages which is not something to overlook, if they were closely priced I'd go for the G2. Now if you can get some dough off due to contract extension and plan to stay with your carrier, the G2 can still be an attractive offer. Overall though, buying both unlocked and the Nexus 5 is just so awesomely priced. So it's a matter of looking at your options.

LouieeeV said:
Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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That is what I got. I have a 64gb card in my sgs3, so it will be hard, but the thing that makes it worth it, is how easy it is to dev/hack.

Haha, i was on the same boat. I love the G2 Screen and the lack of bezel. Overall the decision came down to software and speed. I always go with a custom ROM cause i like stock, (yes u can do this on the g2) but the fact that i will be getting the latest and greatest updates first is a huge + for me. Thus why i decided on the Nexus.
I say go Nexus!.

Nexus is looking like a go especially with 4g and unlimited data on T-Mobile sounds pretty good to me so far
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
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How you can be a recognized contributor and come out with such a poor statement is quite scary...
Anyway it is VERY close.
The G2 has a bigger screen, yet only a fraction larger. (~1mm all around). And weigh's in negligible over the N5 yet has a 3000mah battery instead of 2300. Then it has a 13mp camera with the same tech as the 8mp Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
They share the same CPU/GPU/Ram. The Nexus 5 will likely be quicker due to KitKat/AOSP, but it will only be a matter of weeks and the G2 will have that also so if having it first is important to you, then again N5.
They also share the same radios/spectrums/etc.. so N5 is unlocked vs LG G2 probably/possibly being locked to one carrier. Important factor for some.
Clearly I don't think one is a "winner", I have the G2, and I pre-ordered the N5. I want to check out KitKat and see how it performs/battery life with only 2300mah but KitKat optimized. I plan to pick the winner (for me) once I have them side by side for a while.
Either way, they are most CERTAINLY close. The question is (in most markets) is ~$150-200 worth a bigger screen/battery/camera and the loss of immediate updates/better rom development. In that case, for most, the answer seems to be no.

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The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.

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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
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Absolutely, if your only importance is ROM's and having the latest software first, or the longest amount of support for updates, then it is not close.
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life. The G2 is a battery monster, so I expect to be disappointed by the N5, but I absolutely hope I am wrong. Also in some countries the price is almost negligible. Plus if you have an upgrade and stick with the same carrier anyway, you can have the G2 for $150-200 vs $440 (32gb vs 32gb), so that is another factor. A lot goes in to play for this. Just simply saying it is cheaper is not enough.
When comparing ALL factors though, I stand by my previous statements. Personally I wouldn't let development allow me to be hooked to only owning a Nexus but that is absolutely the key factor for some people, I get that. Battery life is a huge importance to me and until I can see how it lasts with my own eyes I take the specs with a truckload of salt. With a 30% less battery size on the same hardware KitKat is going to have to do some pretty superb savings to keep it close.
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If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
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If you looked at hardware specs only and no other factors, it is NOT close. The G2 wins hands down if you take out software and price, but that would be just plain silly.
In case anyone misinterprets my statements, I am not saying I think one is better than the other. I think both have their +'s and personally I don't find either a clear winner. That is all.

While I'm still going with the N5 for the rom support, Sprint is selling the N5 for $149 and the G2 for $99 (both with 2 year contracts), so the G2 actually wins the price debate.
Edit: whoops had too many tabs open and got this thread confused with one that was just for Sprint. Still, I imagine TMo will sell the G2 for either the same price or less than the N5 to stay competitive.

If usbOTG is present in the N5 then you can simply attach a microsd card to a microsd to USB to the usbOTG adapter (too many adapters) or simply a flashdrive. While it may be a pain to carry around it will at least extend the capacity.
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crawlgsx said:
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life.
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years

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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.

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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum

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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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haha too funny, I agree 100%. SD and Removable battery mean 0 to me, always have.
But yeah I get it :good:

Galaxy S4 GE vs Nexus 5

I have a tough question to decide on, which one is better and which one should I keep ?
I like the build and design of Galaxy. Also the screen seems to be better and colors are not washed out.
4.4 is coming to S4 GE anytime soon as well.

I've got both but S4 i9505. Personally speaking just my views and opinion I prefer the AMOLED screen the blacks are stunning as always. But the whites on the IPS panel are better.
The S4 has the removable battery and expandable storage along with the IR blaster and more real estate on the screen due to no on screen buttons.
Obviously the N5 has the faster CPU and GPU but the S600 isn't a slouch either.
The N5 will have much superior development compared to the GE edition if you want everything working correctly.
The S4 is still a great phone but you can decide which to keep.
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I am in the same boat. The only answer I can think if is the following
When the S4 gets Kitkat do the following
Week 1: Use the Nexus 5 exclusively
Week 2: Use the S4 exclusively
Week 3: Go back to the Nexus
If you make it the entire 3 weeks, you should probably keep the Nexus.
In the end both phones are top of the line and most people would be happy with either.
I myself are in the same dilemma and that is what I am going to do... Or get a Note 3
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From the reviews on the web, it looks like Nexus 5 camera is inferior to Galaxy S4 GE.
Is this right ?

Not going to lie if they were both the same price i would get the s4. I personally like amoled . I also like the remote feature. The sdcard slot is an added bonus but not really NEEDED for my use. However since they are so far apart in price nexus 5 for me.

So, 4.4 KitKat is available now on GS4 GE (i9505G).
Short story - it's still slower and less fluid than Nexus 5.
So I guess I will keep Nexus 5 and sell GS4.

Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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I'm on other hand, staying on Nexus 5 32gb is enough for my needs and I really like the faster response.

jev3gs said:
Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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I've always wondered... why do people put movies on their phone? Surely it isn't a pleasant experience to watch a 5'' screen for an hour and a half.

jev3gs said:
Just an FYI. I did get the Nexus 5, used it for about 10 days and decided to stay on the S4.
Big thing for me was flexibility with roms, camera and SD card. I thought 32gb would be enough. But once I put a few games, movies, pictures and music I ran out of space and wasn't even done (yes I know it should have happened just didn't think it would be soo quick).
The N5 did feel faster and fluid without a doubt. I guess I realized I needed more of the Swiss Army Knife Solution.
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Flexibility with roms? The s4 is no where near as flexible. I suppose you have an i337 too

jd1639 said:
Flexibility with roms? The s4 is no where near as flexible. I suppose you have an i337 too
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Flexibility in the sense I can have both Touchwiz and stock android options. Especially with the GPE S4
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I've always wondered... why do people put movies on their phone? Surely it isn't a pleasant experience to watch a 5'' screen for an hour and a half.
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Kids for one, they are always using my phone.
Plus it is just easier to have the phone all the time instead of my tablet.
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Ditch S4 over N5?

Hello, xda'ers!
I have a fairly simple question. S4 is my first smartphone and I love it. At first I hated it because of TW, but now I converted it to basically a GP edition with Danvdh's ROM. Very smooth, haven't seen any lag since the day I flashed it.
The only thing why I'm considering N5 is because of its future proofness. (SD800, A330 instead of S4's SD600 and A320). I consider myself between average and power user. I like to game here and there and so on.
-Non-removable battery
-No SD slot
-Smaller battery
-Weaker camera
+Way better specs
+Constant updates straight from Google
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess)
It all comes down to this: I want N5 because of better specs, updates, dev support and that's it. I've read many articles on these both devices and haven't clearly decided yet, because most of them go for N5 even with all the cons I mentioned. For me, battery life and SD slot (if it's 16GB version) is the most important.
How many of you guys have ditched S4 over the N5? Could you please share your experience and whether if you regret it?

The specs aren't that much better. There's kind of half a generation between them. The One plus would be a more logical step up
Also we only have 9 months left of official updates on the N5. Not sure what you mean by "constant updates". It doesn't get constant updates. It gets fast updates. But not constant. It only gets the minor updates. E.g it got 4.4.2, 4.4.3, 4.4.4. It got nothing in between
It has good developer support but after 9 months when no one is officially updating the official drivers, its going to be like any other unsupported device.
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I just suggest you to wait for a while
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How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Ritvars said:
How is your experience with the N5 so far? And battery specificly?
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Its fine. In every respect
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Its fine. In every respect
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I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?

Ritvars said:
I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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I had an S3
I cannot recommend any phone over any other phone to some one else as the things I like about it are completely subjective buy I will say for me, I would definitely not want an S4 and would prefer the N5
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Ritvars said:
I have an opportunity to sell my S4. I'd rather go with OnePlus, but I can't get the invite.
What was your previous phone before N5?
Would you recommend me N5 over S4?
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Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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jd1639 said:
Go to the s4, i337, general forum and look for index,, all things at&t........... Read that carefully. It'll give you a good indication what you can and can not do with the s4. If you like custom roms and like to mess around with your phone the n5 is a better choice. The s4 has a locked bootloader and you can only use safestrap as a recovery
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I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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Ritvars said:
I have international i9505 with unlocked bootloader.
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Then that makes the decision more difficult. It's really up to you
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Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ritvars said:
Yeah... I just wish I could somehow get the N5 for a week (test it, etc.) to really decide which one is the one for me.
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Ask someone who has a N5 if you can try it for a minute

Yep the galaxy nexus is a great example Google doesn't support it so roms aren't as stable and my nexus 5 will be the same way although the nexus 5 will be a lot less laggy
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My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.

Doobski said:
My friend has an S4 (non-root). I would mess with it from time to time, it seems like a pretty good device, even if it is stock, so I wouldn't consider the N5 to be that big of an upgrade, concidering your S4 is rooted/bootunlocked (not sure how the dev support is over there though).
For all your conS on the N5; battery life, non removable battery, no SD slot, ect, try to think logically, lol. Eg. Look at battery life threads for the N5 and compare them to YOUR daily usage. See if 16/32gb storage would be enough for all YOUR needs. Ect ect.
For your pro, haha. The updates. The N5 is pretty old in technology terms, so who knows how many updates we'll see after L release. I would think the dev support for this phone would last for some time though.
Personally, I would wait a bit to see if something else catches your eye, or if the N5 price drops.
Tl;dr: Weigh the pros vs Con's with YOUR usage.
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It seems like cons weighs more than pros, at least for me. Well, I might wait for the Nexus 6, but since I live in EU, the price will be super high (instead of $350, it will cost at least $500 in where I live) I have a chance to sell my S4 for 300 euros right now, and brand new N5 (16gb) costs from 277 here.
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-Non-removable battery -do you even need that(get a juice battery pack and done)?
-No SD slot -32Gb will be fine how much can you put into a phone?
-Smaller battery -yes,but with custom per-app profiles
-Weaker camera -i like it,really fine pictures (my opinion)
+Way better specs -idk what to say here...i'm really pleased with the N5 in terms of gaming,smooth,stability.
+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
+Ability to flash Android L and better dev support (i guess) -there is already Android L developer preview
I had iphone before and Nexus was the only android phone that made me ditch the iOS for Android.Had a samsung for a few weeks(hate it) then tryed the Nexus and love it!
Go into a store and try the phone before buy.Idk what to say against S4 didn't used it for long time to give an opinion.

krystyuc said:
+Constant updates straight from Google -for a long time
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Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.

I had S2,S3,S4 and must say all of this phones where very good (all rooted and on custom roms ). Them my wife got a present and its was a brand new nexus 5. To shorten my story> From that moment that I powered on nexus 5 I never took S4 in my hand ever again. Feels faster,more manly (i have black one), and battery is better or same as S4 + much more fun coz its much easy-er to go from one custom rom to another and it doesn't have that KNOX security sh1t.
Cheers!

rootSU said:
Not constant. Only versioned updates. We don't get every fix when it is ready. Only when the version changes 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 for example.
Not for a long time. 18 months update cycle. Already 50% through that.
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Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.

surrealjam said:
Though Google only guarantee they will support their devices for 18 months, the Nexus 4 is already 20 months old and it looks very much like Google are developing an L release for it. Hopefully this a sign that they will go beyond the 18 months for the more popular Nexus 5, though this is of course completely up to Google's generosity.
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Maybe, but I wouldn't rely on that.