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Does the type cover scratch the surfaces display?

Hello there,
do you guys know if the type cover scratches the surface display? I do know that mine is just a few weeks old and I was good to it, meaning it didn*t fall down or anything like that. Still, I got some scratches in it. I now think that this could be because of the type cover. Do you guys have any experience with that. And: Are there better covers out there, maybe even thinner? I don't need the keys all the time anyway.

The type cover,you mean the keyboard thingy?it never did scratch my surface
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2 covers available at the moment. The type cover and the touch cover. They are being replaced with the type 2 and touch 2 which are slightly slimmer, backlit and in the case of the touch 2 have more sensors so should be more accurate plus support multitouch gestures on the trackpad. There is also the power cover which seems to be a thicker type cover with a battery in it for charging a surface pro, surface pro 2 or surface 2 but *not* the surface RT (where it would just serve as a thicker type cover).
None of those cases should scratch the display. They are plastic, the screen is gorilla glass. Gorilla glass can only really be damaged by very sharp edges, sand/other grit and a few minerals. In your case most likely grit damaged it. Plastic could not scratch it.

It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.

johnchad14 said:
It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.
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Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...

Sephi said:
Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...
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Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.
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No, it's really not. For example, my Galaxy Note, and I really really wasn't good to it and it fell down quite a few times or were together with my keys in my pocket - does not have any noticable scratches. The Surface however has quite some big, deep ones which are clearly noticable even when the screen is on. And I don't know there they are supposed to come from other than the type cover.

OK, the type cover is DEFINITLY scratching the display. I got a few more scratches today after I took it with me in my bag and used the type cover as protection. The scratches all look kinda similiar and they are all in the upper region, I guess there is more contraction there. Horrible, I would NOT use the type cover as an actual display protection.

The strange thing is the scratches are all in the area without keys, the area where the touchpad is but to the sides, so it's no rough surface (no pun intended). I don't know where the scratches are coming from en masse but they are there, it's horrible. I know ordered this bag here: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00D1HQPQC/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item
Any thoughts?

Thats an absolute physical impossibility.
All materials have a hardness (or several hardnesses dependant on the method of measurement but the general principle applies the same).
In order for material A to scratch material B, material A must be harder than material B.
Plastic is not as hard as gorilla glass, nor is it rough edged (a very sharp point of a softer material if forced hard enough will scratch another harder material). Expecting a flat piece of plastic to scratch the glass on the surface is like throwing a ball in the air and expecting it to fall, doesn't happen.
If there is something in between then it can happen. Sand for example, it is harder than gorilla glass, its also a small particle that tends to stick to your screen so when you shut the cover on it the cover will be forcing the sand into the screen, due to the nature of the hinge on the surface the cover can wobble forwards and back a few mm rubbing the sand grain over a small area. Other bits of dirt can do it again, small bits of mud or whatever.
Plastic at most could only transfer the coating of the plastic to the glass which would wipe off, and that I highly doubt would happen.
As for more contraction, that would entirely be down to how you store the device. The touch cover only attaches with a simple flap, its free to drop open or closed at any time, if its stored with slightly more force in one corner then its not going to apply the force terribly equally across the device.

But where is it coming from? Scratches are everywhere and by no chance I got sand in my bag or anywhere else. It's been months since the last time I saw some sand. Living in the middle of germany.

It doesnt necessarily have to be beach sand. Concrete dust, mud, construction sand. All could do it (mud less so). Sand has a tendancy to hide in small spots in bags if there is any (or transfer from other items). Anything could be the cause, i find it highly unlikely to be the cover itself.
One thing you could try, can you find a sheet of soft fabric or foam or something that you could cut to size and wedge between the cover and screen. Might reduce the impact of whatever is going on. Can keep the sheet loose in your bag, stick it in when closing the cover. Or simply fold the keyboard over the back of the unit and put it in a netbook sleeve but that would be leaving the glass exposed to knocks etc

Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.

Sephi said:
Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.
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YES, the type cover WILL scratch the display. I have heard it from other people and I have it myself.
NO, it is not the material, it is any grit that gets trapped in between them. Get a tiny grain of sand in there, you are in trouble.
YES, I use a screen protector now and it is getting trashed.
NOW I carry a large micro fiber cloth in my carrying case. Before putting the Surface away, I wipe off the display and keyboard. That has reduce the amount of damage. I'll still need to replace the screen protector often, but I'm OK with that compared to more glass damage.

I hate screen protectors with a passion. I will just stop using type cover then...

after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame

Indeed it does. I bought mine on Sunday night. Monday afternoon I noticed a scratch/pit on my screen when I was cleaning it off. I looked at the type cover, and there was a piece of grit/sand stuck in the soft, flat part where my right palm is not supposed to rest.
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willusdun said:
after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame
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Microsoft likely did consider it, and decided that having a slimmer overall product would generate more revenue.
Some laptops dont have this issue because they have "spacers" around the screen that maintain a small gap between the keys and the screen when closed.
My Thinkpad has markings on its screen from its own keyboard, even though theres a massive 2-3mm gap between the keys and screen when closed. This is because the screen can flex a bit and likely got smushed into my keys (I'm pretty rough with my Thinkpad).
There isnt much you can do about it, almost every product has this issue.
My HTC One sits in my pocket with nothing else in it, and it has markings on it. I haven't been anywhere near a beach since I got the phone.
So like someone else said, all sorts of particles can scratch your screen.
Even Macbooks have this issue, its the reason why people sell specially cut microfiber cloths that are meant to be placed between screen and keyboard when Macbook is closed.
Either get a screen protector, deal with it, or wait a few decades until they make glass strong enough to resist everything.

My HP sleekbook has an imprint from the keys on the screen. I had my laptop bag on the passenger seat of my car, was cut up really badly by someone at 50mph, immediately wished that my car had decent ABS which it doesnt as it made a nice tyre squeal. Laptop bag slammed to floor, opened it up, laptop 100% intact, just has key imprints on the screen which are actually rubbing off (does literally seem to be dirt rather than physical damage).

I have my Surface RT with touch cover. I have been using it for a year. I never put any screen protector and I have scratches on screen. I carry my surface in my bag pretty much every week day. I don't find the scratches affecting any usability or affecting the quality of display. When the screen lights up while using, you are not going to see those scratches that easy. Only when screen off and at certain angle you will be able to see some. It's just a device for use for couple years, relax and enjoy it. Putting screen protector will protect the screen from scratches, but degrade your display color, viewing angle, reflection, brigtness, touch feel, etc.

Is the backplate prone to scratching off the grippy-gummy substance it's covered with

I don't really know how to call that coating and am not even sure if it's a coating or the whole backplate is made of the material that gives the grip. I just want to know if it's going to get scratched/scraped off by usage because this will pretty much determine if I'll get a case for the phone or not. I never had a case on my phone before and I don't really want one unless I'll need one. And I'll need one if it's required to keep my phone in perfect condition.

I assume it will, but covered it with a silicone case an ghost armor on the front.
The camera bulge made case necessary for my usage.
Of course YMMV some, but it seems the front glass likes to shatter easy on side hits, at least from what I've read.
So back plate scratches would be the least of my concern with that camera glass bulge.
Don't know if that helps, but it didn't cost you anything to read it ?
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I got mine at launch and never put a case on it. Mine is scratch free on the back and the glass. Just don't put it in your pocket if its full of diamonds.

The soft touch plastic can get scratched by keys or even coins. Same can be said for the white glossy sides.

bblzd said:
The soft touch plastic can get scratched by keys or even coins. Same can be said for the white glossy sides.
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The white and black versions are a bit different. As far as i have heard the black one is harder to scratch. And it has the same material all around. As opposed to the white one with gloss added.
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El Daddy said:
I got mine at launch and never put a case on it. Mine is scratch free on the back and the glass. Just don't put it in your pocket if its full of diamonds.
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Well, it's always sitting in my pocket alone, but I also dealt with some other stuff that was covered in this substance and by normal usage the substance scratched off so that's why it raised my concern. Plus I had HTC HD2 which also had it's backplate covered in something (not this substance though) and it also got scratched up pretty badly by daily use (I really care about my phones) and it was in my pocket alone.

I've had the phone for almost two months now and have yet to use a case and it's still scratch free. I would just make sure to keep whatever pocket you use for your phone empty at all times except for the device itself. The only issue I have is getting dust out of the edges of the screen where the plastic meets the glass...easily fixed with a duster air gun or just using a thin piece of paper and sliding it through the grooves to remove the dust.

whozilla said:
The white and black versions are a bit different. As far as i have heard the black one is harder to scratch. And it has the same material all around. As opposed to the white one with gloss added.
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Not sure which scratches easier but both are susceptible to scratches by metal or even hard plastic unlike the Gorilla Glass screen. Case in point being the hard cases scratching both the soft touch and glossy coatings alike.

Spigen strong flex case

Has anyone had any issues with this case scratching the metal lining of their phone?

Yeah I just noticed that. It's mainly at the top and bottom by the earpiece and home button. I just don't understand how the case could do that.

Yes, the inside side part of the case is a bit too sharp.

I like the feel I this case tho. I hate that it scratches the metal

Same here, only very small scratching tho and honestly i dont see how you can avoid it with any case. All you need to do is use a small thin piece of electrical tape to cover metal part and no more scratches. Also if you use the heart rate sensor good luck with this case. I dont use it so it didnt matter to me.

Ive also noticed this. I hate it but oh well i guess. It's from taking the case off. So leave the case on or be careful i guess.

Protecting Metal Frame. Can you use Skinomi?

Can you use the Skinomi Full Body Skin+Screen Protector for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skinomi-Ful...ector-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-/141434842510 to protect the metal frame from scratches or will this product damage the paint?

arjun90 said:
Can you use the Skinomi Full Body Skin+Screen Protector for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skinomi-Ful...ector-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-/141434842510 to protect the metal frame from scratches or will this product damage the paint?
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It will protect the metal from scratches and I don't see why it will damage the paint, it's just a skin. I prefer a case though as these skins make the phone feel glossy and just not that great feeling.

Does the skin have the capacity to rip the paint off as you peal the skin (in case you need to reapply)?
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It will protect the metal from scratches and I don't see why it will damage the paint, it's just a skin. I prefer a case though as these skins make the phone feel glossy and just not that great feeling.
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arjun90 said:
Does the skin have the capacity to rip the paint off as you peal the skin (in case you need to reapply)?
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I doubt it.
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arjun90 said:
Does the skin have the capacity to rip the paint off as you peal the skin (in case you need to reapply)?
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Just use a hair dryer to heat the skin up before taking it off, it really helps.

Looks like it doesn't cover the shiny metal part of the frame.

OnlinePredator said:
Looks like it doesn't cover the shiny metal part of the frame.
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Yeah it only protects the painted part of the frame. I have a skinomi full body on my Note 4.

Sam3gX said:
Yeah it only protects the painted part of the frame. I have a skinomi full body on my Note 4.
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How has the bezel held up on your phone? Any scratches? I had the skinomi on my note 3 but idk if i want it on the note 4, people are saying it scratches easy.

Every single Note 4 out of the box has predisposing micro-scratches. No way to avoid them. I've gone through close to a dozen Note 4's, lost count. Even with careful handling, you are bound to get micro scratches on the chamfered metal edges (made out of "low-quality" metal). The Skinomi DOES NOT cover these areas. There are no manufacturers making protection for these areas. If these edges bother you, I suggest avoid the Note 4 or encase the phone in glass box (like those found in the Museums), and just stare at it, and don't touch it till the Next Big Thing Arrives. No kidding.
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How has the bezel held up on your phone? Any scratches? I had the skinomi on my note 3 but idk if i want it on the note 4, people are saying it scratches easy.
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I saw this recommendation in a of couple places, so I'm not sure who to attribute this excellent suggestion to, passing it on... but (if you pretty much always have your phone in a case), then wrap the bezel all the way around with kapton tape, just leaving a little gap for the ports / sensors. Say good bye to questions of whether or not a case that you like would scratch your bezel: it won't. That's a pretty sweet deal actually, if there's a case that you really dig but ruled it out due to reports of scratches, now you can use any case you like without even thinking about that kind of thing. I took a guess re: size and ordered a roll of 1/3" wide tape for $4 on Amazon. 1/3' works, but 1/4" (assuming they make it) would make it look a lot cleaner. Then you can use the rest for taping kapton (??)

Do you have a link for the one on Amazon. I'd gladly order one to be on the safe side.
Seems like that's the only solution. Does Kapton tape come in other colors? What thicknesses are available?
The width needs to be in millimeters.
Here's the 1/4, too thick though
http://www.amazon.com/Bertech-Yards...=1421675351&sr=8-16&keywords=1/3"+wide+kapton
jazzmachine said:
I saw this recommendation in a of couple places, so I'm not sure who to attribute this excellent suggestion to, passing it on... but (if you pretty much always have your phone in a case), then wrap the bezel all the way around with kapton tape, just leaving a little gap for the ports / sensors. Say good bye to questions of whether or not a case that you like would scratch your bezel: it won't. That's a pretty sweet deal actually, if there's a case that you really dig but ruled it out due to reports of scratches, now you can use any case you like without even thinking about that kind of thing. I took a guess re: size and ordered a roll of 1/3" wide tape for $4 on Amazon. 1/3' works, but 1/4" (assuming they make it) would make it look a lot cleaner. Then you can use the rest for taping kapton (??)
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arjun90 said:
Do you have a link for the one on Amazon. I'd gladly order one to be on the safe side.
Seems like that's the only solution. Does Kapton tape come in other colors? What thicknesses are available?
The width needs to be in millimeters.
Here's the 1/4, too thick though
http://www.amazon.com/Bertech-Yards...=1421675351&sr=8-16&keywords=1/3"+wide+kapton
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Sure, no problem; this is the one that I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HFN669Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Color-wise, I don't think it really comes it different colors... the tape itself is this translucent gold-ish color, and when I ordered it I figured that my phone is in a case 99% of the time anyway in case it hurt the aesthetics. However, after I had applied it, it turned out to be translucent enough that it was barely noticeable. In fact, that's why I recommend 1/4" wide tape over 1/3" (each being 1mm thick), which I kind of had to fold over the edges in a few paces. I think that 1/4" would definitely provide sufficient coverage and would look clean enough if you ever take your phone out of the case. The one I ordered works fine, but I usually need to fix it up a little whenever I put on a different case (and make sure none of it is sticking out from under the cover on the screen). It's a nice little "hack" to keep your hardware in primo condition :good:

Spigen Liquid Crystal S6 question

Hi, I have a question about Spigen Liquid Crystal case. I would like to know if the dotted pattern doesn't scratch or leave marks on the glass back panel after some time using it. Thank you

Any dirt between case and phone will eventually cause it to scratch, I had to threaten legal action to get my glass replaced due to the s-view case damaging the screen, buy a rear protector so you have something physically stuck to the back glass that cannot move and take the damage instead of the phone.

scarlett24 said:
Hi, I have a question about Spigen Liquid Crystal case. I would like to know if the dotted pattern doesn't scratch or leave marks on the glass back panel after some time using it. Thank you
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The dots will only be visible if you look at it from a certain angle. And no, the dots won't cause any damage/ visible marksto the phone's rear back.

GoNz0 and Rakcoon thank you for your help.

I have Spigen's transparent case on my phone.
It's been about 8 months.
The back of the case is horribly scratched up like hell.
The entire case itself has turned yellowish, which is normal for silicone and perfect for my golden S6.
The edges and sides of the case however turned reddish, you know like redhead women? Like that, however the colour change is not that prominent and it actually looks cool. It's visible only from certain angles though.
However, I use a blower to make sure to dust gets trapped in-between the back of my phone and the inside of the case, so I don't really have scratches on the back of my phone.
Protection wise? It's worth it, doesn't really add too much bulk, but it's good enough for protection from drops about 4 feet onto concrete floor. Get Nillkim's Amazing H+ tempered glass to protect the front, that's what I'm using on my S6.
Don't ask for photos of it, I'm too lazy to do that.
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