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I finally received my little square card reader from Squareup today. I'm anxious to get a chance to use it.
I'm curious if anyone else has gotten one yet and started using it on a regular basis. What do you think of it? I'm also wondering if anyone one out there has found some other uses for it? Near as I can tell, it's a standard magnetic reader head, so there's not reason it couldn't read any magnetic striped card. I think it'd be cool of those password/credit card/bank account app could use this dongle to read your card number instead of having to type it in manually. I've already used an audio recording app and successfully swiped and recorded the audio stream that comes from the reader.
So what are your guy's thoughts, idea's, suggestions for this niftly little dongle. Will it survive, or is it destined to be another Cuecat
Mine came in yesterday. I'm waiting for someone braver than I to crack one open to see if there is more to it than just a magnetic read head and male headphone jack. It would be neat if we discover a microcontroller flashed with a code that pairs each device specifically to the users account. But really I'm hoping it's just a simple set of components so that I could easily fabricate a new one if mine gets lost/broken.
Can you please post your apks?
I just dont see it in market.
luvit said:
Can you please post your apks?
I just dont see it in market.
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What APK's are you looking for?
garfnodie said:
What APK's are you looking for?
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Squareup apk fot credit cards
luvit said:
Squareup apk fot credit cards
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Sorry, stupid moment. I don't know how to pull APK off my phone. Here's a link that includes a QR code that I'm sure will you get you to the market page.
http://www.doubletwist.com/apps/android/Square/-4760093326407457649/
So I received the card reader, but I haven't been successful with using it up to this point. I have a Galaxy S Vibrant, and when I follow the instructions for swiping credit cards absolutely nothing happens in the square app. Has anyone accepted payments successfully with the card reader, and if so what are you doing differently?
EDIT: Sorry about posting on this in Nexus One section. Although I'm not currently testing on a Nexus One the problem I'm having is hopefully more related to the application or OS than it is the hardware, and this is the only discussion related to Squareup on this forum.
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So I received the card reader, but I haven't been successful with using it up to this point.
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Try testing the card reader using an audio recording app like garfnodie did. If you don't get some kind of whooshing sound on your recording, then there's a chance you've got a bad reader. But if you do get sound, then I'd say it is a hardware compatibility issue with your Galaxy.
BTW, do you get the card reader icon pop up in Square when you plug/unplug your reader?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7183/readeryes.png
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I wasn't getting that icon in my initial tests, but I am now that I pull the card reader out of the phone just a little. There is a certain point where I leave it that the icon stays solid and the app appears like it is ready to accept a swipe, but swiping the card does not start the authorizing process. Most degrees of pulling the card reader out of this phone only results in the icon disappearing or it constantly appearing then quickly disappearing.
I tested my card reader on a Droid X today and it worked fine, so I'm assuming this issue is most likely related to using the card reader on a Samsung Vibrant. I am running a custom ROM (Bionix 1.6 at the moment) which may have an impact on audio jack functionality, but I'm not sure. I'll need to try other ROMs and see if the audio jack behavior is any different.
I've found that using a normal headset in the same way that I described with the card reader behaves identically. The app shows the icon but in either case I'm unable to successfully swipe a card.
EDIT: I've also found that the Samsung Vibrant does video out via the 3.5mm audio jack. I'm leaning towards this being the cause as to why the card reader doesn't work with this new audio jack. Here is more information:
http://www.wirefly.com/learn/wireless_news/confirmed-samsung-vibrant-tv-out-menu/
If I toggle video out on, then I can't get the Square application to see anything plugged in. If I keep video out toggled off, then I get the level of functionality described above. If it turns out that this is the reason for the issue, then I hope it can be solved via a software update on either the Android or Square side (rather than a hardware issue). I've opened a ticket with Squareup with all this information.
joshuapurcell said:
I've found that using a normal headset in the same way that I described with the card reader behaves identically. The app shows the icon but in either case I'm unable to successfully swipe a card.
EDIT: I've also found that the Samsung Vibrant does video out via the 3.5mm audio jack. I'm leaning towards this being the cause as to why the card reader doesn't work with this new audio jack. Here is more information:
http://www.wirefly.com/learn/wireless_news/confirmed-samsung-vibrant-tv-out-menu/
If I toggle video out on, then I can't get the Square application to see anything plugged in. If I keep video out toggled off, then I get the level of functionality described above. If it turns out that this is the reason for the issue, then I hope it can be solved via a software update on either the Android or Square side (rather than a hardware issue). I've opened a ticket with Squareup with all this information.
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I never even noticed that the card reader uses four conductors until I read your post about your problem and took a closer look at my card reader. A standard headphone jack uses three conductors(left, right, ground), most cell phone jacks use four conductors(left, right, mic, ground). Now if the Captivate can switch that fourth conductor from mic in to video out when needed, then it certainly sounds like a software issue, just don't know whos problem it and to fix.
Someone else posted in the Vibrant forums saying they have had success in getting the card reader to work while using a specific ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806795
So this means it may not be a hardware problem with the card reader or the Vibrant, and that the software issue may be on the OS side and fixable via changes to whatever ROM being used. I haven't done the testing yet due to time, but I will hopefully today. The updates to this issue will be in the linked thread above going forward since it seems to be isolated to the Vibrant and we now have a Square discussion in that appropriate forum.
this actually looks awesome. I guess it converts what it reads into audio that the program can pick up. What the hell is the usage though?
/me thinks
I guess it would be awesome for when I work on peoples computers and websites, they can pay me right there. Pretty slick.
player911 said:
this actually looks awesome. I guess it converts what it reads into audio that the program can pick up. What the hell is the usage though?
/me thinks
I guess it would be awesome for when I work on peoples computers and websites, they can pay me right there. Pretty slick.
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I can see this being great for swap meets, flea markets, or trade shows or anything for that matter where your selling products or services and want to be able to take and approve credit/debit card sales on the spot.
garfnodie said:
I can see this being great for swap meets, flea markets, or trade shows or anything for that matter where your selling products or services and want to be able to take and approve credit/debit card sales on the spot.
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Yea. Actually my friend is trying to start up a Transmission Repair shop and really fell in love with the idea of being able to accept credit cards on the go.
luvit said:
Can you please post your apks?
I just dont see it in market.
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Just called Square in the market...
Just got mine
Just got mine and I cant wait to start using it I was having problems with the icon not showing up and I just uninstalled/installed and that fixed it.
I haven't received my unit yet, but has anyone had any issues with it? I've looked into it and supposedly it's capped to $100 per transaction and I think your capped on the number of times you can use it per day.
Also I heard the reader may take multiple swipes before the software actually picks up on it.
I don't think the cap will be a big issue for me, but I would trust the opinions of the people here more then random bashes on the internet.
Would be neat if you are a Craigslist whore. Not only would you be able to take credit/check cards, but you'd also get a receipt of the transaction as well.
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player911 said:
I haven't received my unit yet, but has anyone had any issues with it? I've looked into it and supposedly it's capped to $100 per transaction and I think your capped on the number of times you can use it per day.
Also I heard the reader may take multiple swipes before the software actually picks up on it.
I don't think the cap will be a big issue for me, but I would trust the opinions of the people here more then random bashes on the internet.
Would be neat if you are a Craigslist whore. Not only would you be able to take credit/check cards, but you'd also get a receipt of the transaction as well.
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Here is the FAQ on Square's page about the fee's, transaction limits, etc.
https://support.squareup.com/entries/160793-frequently-asked-questions-faq#card-fees
daijizai said:
Just called Square in the market...
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Yes, the exact name is Square. Are you in the US? It's only available in the US right now.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/square/com.squareup
HI all, I am currently using khalpowers V4, and was using Dexter's 1.3 before too.
What is happening is that every hour or so, the phone will detect no sim card. I'll have to remove battery, take out sim, re insert in, and HOPE it works on my next reboot (chances varies, some times it takes a while before it reads again).
I am not sure if its a hardware or software issue, my sim card is fairly scratched (don't know if that plays a role in this).
What i realize recently is that once i get that problem, i can get into open recovery and wipe DALVIK cache, and it'll detect it again without having me to remove and reinsert my sim card.
Was wondering if this is just me or the rom? Or if anyone have any experience with this kind of madness, this is driving me nuts as i have to restart my phone every hour.
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HI all, I am currently using khalpowers V4, and was using Dexter's 1.3 before too.
What is happening is that every hour or so, the phone will detect no sim card. I'll have to remove battery, take out sim, re insert in, and HOPE it works on my next reboot (chances varies, some times it takes a while before it reads again).
I am not sure if its a hardware or software issue, my sim card is fairly scratched (don't know if that plays a role in this).
What i realize recently is that once i get that problem, i can get into open recovery and wipe DALVIK cache, and it'll detect it again without having me to remove and reinsert my sim card.
Was wondering if this is just me or the rom? Or if anyone have any experience with this kind of madness, this is driving me nuts as i have to restart my phone every hour.
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Never had this issues with any ROM or stock...... time to get a new SIM buddy
hellmonger said:
Never had this issues with any ROM or stock...... time to get a new SIM buddy
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i'll agree with this
it's probably the SIM card that has got scratched, faulty, or something happened to it
i had to replace mine a while back for similar reasons
actually i was unable to send SMS out, but i was able to receive.
and incidentally i'll randomly get no signal
after i changed the SIM card for a new one, all the problems went away.
that was on my other phone.
never had problem on the XT720
extract rar folder then take the only (sub khalpowers V4 folder) and put the SD card installed .... ok ......You'll see it works ... the problem is the double folder
AllGamer said:
i'll agree with this
it's probably the SIM card that has got scratched, faulty, or something happened to it
i had to replace mine a while back for similar reasons
actually i was unable to send SMS out, but i was able to receive.
and incidentally i'll randomly get no signal
after i changed the SIM card for a new one, all the problems went away.
that was on my other phone.
never had problem on the XT720
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Thanks, i just wanted to confirm if it really is the sim, i suspect it is, but the thing is that it KINDA works, and then don't.... i guess i'll have to invest in a new sim card. Anyone know if Wind will give me a new one if i whine to them?
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Thanks, i just wanted to confirm if it really is the sim, i suspect it is, but the thing is that it KINDA works, and then don't.... i guess i'll have to invest in a new sim card. Anyone know if Wind will give me a new one if i whine to them?
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Could it be a loose connection? I've read about people that have trouble with loose connections on their SD cards positioning a piece of paper to increase the contact force.
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Thanks, i just wanted to confirm if it really is the sim, i suspect it is, but the thing is that it KINDA works, and then don't.... i guess i'll have to invest in a new sim card. Anyone know if Wind will give me a new one if i whine to them?
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yup, i got my replacement for free, but you have to first call customer service, and explain to them what is going on
then if they believe it's a SIM problem, they will tell you to go to any corporate store, and they will replace it for you at no charge
the CS will put a note on your profile, which the store can look up, and honour the free SIM replacement.
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Could it be a loose connection? I've read about people that have trouble with loose connections on their SD cards positioning a piece of paper to increase the contact force.
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unfortunately i tried that already, but executed the idea in a VERY poor way, i actually put the paper at the tip of the sim and pushed it in to make the contact better, BUT when i slide the sim out, the papaer was still stuck inside, now i can't push my sim in all the way.... at least it still works .....
felt retarded, but at least lesson learned ><
AllGamer said:
yup, i got my replacement for free, but you have to first call customer service, and explain to them what is going on
then if they believe it's a SIM problem, they will tell you to go to any corporate store, and they will replace it for you at no charge
the CS will put a note on your profile, which the store can look up, and honour the free SIM replacement.
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Thanks i'll give them a call and give it a try.
I had the exact same problem for a week. At first the SIM got disconnected after leaving the phone idle for 10-20 minutes, then after many reboots the SIM card wouldn't be detected at all.
I got it replaced for free as well, and some of my other messaging and call problems went away too. =)
i'd like to give the situation some context so sorry if its out of line for forum rules or sth but i think it would make you understane more (otherwise it's probably going to sound like a stole the phone and just want to get round the barring or sth)
so i met someone on a night out that was pretty drunk and lost but wanted to party with my group of friends so i was like ok hung thier coat up blah. long story short i left before they did they forgot to take their coat home which has their phone in the pocket. so i'm supposed to now give them their coat back as my other friend realised the person had left it and thought i'd be able to.
except i dont acutally know the person apart from their first name.
now i figured i should be able to just look through their phone and find a helpful contact that i can call and be like hey i have X's coat and phone here it was left on a night out perhaps you could help me get the stuff back to her.
but now i'm thinking the phone might be blocked already (i dont know this yet a my friend still has the coat with phone) if the person has reported it lost/stolen. but if its blocked that usually means the phone functions just without a network so i'd be able to still look through the contact list?
i'm trying to think of the possiblitlies that would help me/stop me from viewing the contact list.
if sim card is locked then i can just put in another sim
if the it has a phone lock code then i'm probably screwed?
are there anythings you suggest that would help me? or is it a lost cause?
i'd really like to get the phone (& coat) back to this person.
[not gona lie...... kinda want to see them again ]
if a phone is reported lost or stolen its barred right?
that means no matter what sim card you put in/whether its unlocked to any network or not it will NOT pick up a network signal thus rendering it useless (as a phone at least)
is the sim also deactivated/barred?
maybe i could just put the sim into another phone and try to view the contacts that way? unless they have a sim pin set up :[
chances of having a sim pin & a screen unlock are HUGE really arent they? :[
Why don't you just open it and see for yourself?
because i dont have the phone yet thats the point.
i'm trying to be efficient and forsee the possibilites that may occur so that when i'm faced with a screenlock or w.e i know what to do that would still enable me to view the contacts instead of having to take the time to then go and research. i may aswell research now.
i can't get the stuff any sooner than tuesday.
Ah, I see.
If the phone is blocked by using the IMEI number, than the device is refused access to any network.
In other words, you will be able to open the phone, access the contacts etc., you just won't be able to make any calls/send messages.
that would be alright.
it doesnt help that i dont even know what kind of phone it is.
the thing is it probably has a screen lock. i wouldnt be able to get round that?
(i hate this because it sounds like i'm doing it for bad :[ lol i just want to see the cute girl again & of course be the hero by giving her phone & jacket back )
if its a sim pin then i can just put another sim in the phone (hopefully it wont be locked to a network of a sim card i dont have) unless it would operate without a sim?
:/ crap it might even be a mirco sim.
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that would be alright.
it doesnt help that i dont even know what kind of phone it is.
the thing is it probably has a screen lock. i wouldnt be able to get round that?
(i hate this because it sounds like i'm doing it for bad :[ lol i just want to see the cute girl again & of course be the hero by giving her coat & jacket back )
if its a sim pin then i can just put another sim in the phone (hopefully it wont be locked to a network of a sim card i dont have) unless it would operate without a sim? :/ crap it might even be a mirco sim.
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So let me get this straight....you want to be the hero and see the cute girl by trying to break an imei/screen unlock and go through her personal data.
Sound like you want to be more of a stalker than a hero.
Youre definetly trying to do more than you say. Normal people dont go through that much trouble to return phones. Unlocking this....getting around that. ..bypassing security stuff...
And then you say you dont have the phone yet....someone else has it blah blah blah....weird
Youre sketch
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well no. i dont want to actually break into. i dont know how to do all this stuff.
all i'm saying is i'll have her phone & coat i'm the only person from my group who knows who it belongs to it'd be nice to give it back to her.
i wont be able to do that if i cant find a way to contact her.
so i was simply asking is there a way i'll be able to view her contacts list so that i'd find someone useful for example "dad" or whatever then i'd just call it up and be like "hey your daughter left her coat and phone at club x the other night. maybe she could give me a call on this number and i can give them back to her"
how is that bad?
otherwise im stuck with a coat & phone i dont need.
+ not to mention if i lost my phone i'd be super grateful if anyone gave it back to me
Personally i couldn't care less whether your story is true or whatever, i just want to help you.
If she has blocked the device by using the IMEI code, you will be able to use it but not to make calls, so you should be alright.
If she has put a SIM lock code you will be able to put another SIM inside to get to her contacts (you won't be able to make any calls if she has blocked it through IMEI though)
If she has put a screen code, just look carefully on the screen to see the markings from her finger, you should be able to make out the code that way. Constant unlocking the phone through the years should have left a visible marking there.
lol in all fairness why would i lie!!??
and thanks.
i'll report back when i know what kind of phone it is if i have any problems hoping i wont though :]
although funnily enough i just checked my screen for finger marks to see if i could spot any from entering unlock code and nothing smooth as a button - no marks! anything else you'd suggest for getting past the screen unlock? (as i said hopefully it wont need to, just think its pretty popular feature on smartphones :[ )
When you get your hands on the phone, try that first, if her fingers are any oily you should be able to atleast make out the beginning of the combination, use trial and error for the rest.
If you don't manage to make out the code, there is another option. You can manually edit her lock settings to reset the code, but that requires that you can connect the device to your PC and that the phone has USB debugging enabled.
hmmm im thinking i really would need for it to only have a sim pin or nothing.
if its got screen unlock it's really hard for me to access anything wihtout totally ruining her phone/losing data (which is pointless when i want to give it her back in the 1st place) everything i've searched uses gmail account back up.
hmmm im thinking i really would need for it to only have a sim pin or nothing.
if its got screen unlock it's really hard for me to access anything wihtout totally ruining her phone/losing data (which is pointless when i want to give it her back in the 1st place) everything i've searched uses gmail account back up.
So, bought the phone few days ago, and it arrived today. It seemed to work just right, I dont know who the modded the phone, but he did sim mod on it. After putting sim card to the phone it seemed to work just fine, connected to networks and stuff. So I decided to unlock the bootloader and put cyanogenmod on the phone. It worked fine for few hours but now I lost connection to sim card, and I shut down the phone. Took sim card out and put it back in, it did recognize it, but I couldnt contact to any networks, I tried to swapping to GSM only and stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I tried re-flashing CM, but it really didnt help. When I changed the connection type to GSM, it connected to the network for few seconds and then disconnected again. Im gonna try flashing stock rom on but seems like there is something wrong with the phone. Has anyone else had the same problem?
E: Couldnt flash stock rom on the phone using MIUI now and constantly getting messages for "SIM card removed"
So seems like problem is in the sim card holder.
Case of bad luck/coincidence.
Try applying pressure to the SIM (you can remove the back). This way you can find out if it's the holder. I had also had this problem. Not sure if it's a type of holder or just a bad mod. But Cornholio fixed it for me. Contact him, maybe it can be fixed easily. I just sent him my phone since I also had a Photon who needed a new mod.
Die Bruine said:
Case of bad luck/coincidence.
Try applying pressure to the SIM (you can remove the back). This way you can find out if it's the holder. I had also had this problem. Not sure if it's a type of holder or just a bad mod. But Cornholio fixed it for me. Contact him, maybe it can be fixed easily. I just sent him my phone since I also had a Photon who needed a new mod.
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Probably trying to get the seller to refund to me, seems like he had same problems that I just got but he didnt tell me first, but started to tell me that he had just the same problems earlier. Well, I really wouldnt like to open the phone before I can see what he thinks about the refund.
Egez said:
Probably trying to get the seller to refund to me, seems like he had same problems that I just got but he didnt tell me first, but started to tell me that he had just the same problems earlier. Well, I really wouldnt like to open the phone before I can see what he thinks about the refund.
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No need to open the back. Get a very thin knife or something like that. Pry it between the cover and the SIM. it will apply enough pressure to see if that's the problem.
Hello everyone,
so lately i have this "issue" when i put my phone away or tilt it in a special, not really well reproducable, way.
For better understanding, i made a short clip, so you can see what i'm talking about: http://youtu.be/dFIeSJiCcsE
I can't think of any app i installed recently which may cause such sounds and in addition checks for the phone kinetics (like gravity screen and stuff).
Has anyone of you ever heard of such an issue or has an idea what might produce it?
Greetings
That would be the nfc detecting a card in your wallet if you remove all the cards from your wallet you'll find the noise stops. Probably a gym card or maybe a credit card
jonstrumpf said:
Hello everyone,
so lately i have this "issue" when i put my phone away or tilt it in a special, not really well reproducable, way.
For better understanding, i made a short clip, so you can see what i'm talking about: http://youtu.be/dFIeSJiCcsE
I can't think of any app i installed recently which may cause such sounds and in addition checks for the phone kinetics (like gravity screen and stuff).
Has anyone of you ever heard of such an issue or has an idea what might produce it?
Greetings
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daniel.kusy said:
That would be the nfc detecting a card in your wallet if you remove all the cards from your wallet you'll find the noise stops. Probably a gym card or maybe a credit card
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You are the man! It was my ID card which caused NFC to trigger