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I've spent literally days and days reading through threads about various ROMs, I'm hoping someone who has more experience with OPO ROMs than me can point me in the right direction - looking for a solid ROM with these features baked in:
Good ad blocker
Privacy guard
Best or close to best battery life
Can set system font
Solid : doesn't crash or have nasty wakelocks / memory leaks - want a phone that spends most of it's time nicely SLEEPING when it's in my pocket
Most of the ROMs I've looked at seem to be missing one or more of those basic features? I was thinking CM 12S will be good, but then was reading about layers and they were saying the CM theme engine is not so good in terms of security or efficiency compared to the layers theming system?
I like CM 11S pretty well at this point, but I realy want to get behind (support/use) a great ROM that comes with something like AdAway pre-installed because I want to see good ad blockers included (built into) more ROMs and I want to support that. It's deeply discouraging to me when I can't find a great ROM with ad blocking baked in. Same with Privacy Guard - I don't think any ROM should come without Privacy Guard or equivalent baked in!!!
Thank you so much for your help/advice - believe me, I HAVE searched and read many threads, but I expect there are thousands of other people who have had their OPOs for weeks or months longer than me and can give me some solid advices!
Please resist the urge to simply tell me "Just try ROMs for yourself bro!" - I have done that before (on my Galaxy S3) I probably tried about 30 - 40 diff ROMs on that phone. At the moment, I look and read when I can, but before I flash I'd like to know if there are least a couple that at least have those basic features, and if not, I wonder why?
My best guess at this point is, I will need to stay with CM 11S and ad Xposed? I used Xposed a couple different times, but most recently it broke - the device still works, just Xposed was no longer compatible once it got an OTA update... I haven't put Xposed on my OPO yet as I didn't have much time for making backups/restoring re-flashing the phone in case it gets messed up because I have my kids over spring break for the next week and a half.
The only issues/missing features I'm currently experiencing with 11S are: haven't figured out how to set my system font (or perhaps my old type of font file is no longer compatible?), don't have adds blocked in apps yet, and I want to change the color of my clock in the status bar. I will go ahead and read through threads about putting Xposed on OPO - hopefully it can be added on 11S without causing any glitches?
Oh, and my [stock/unlocked/rooted CM11s] phone is not yet working for LTE - I have Walmart Family Mobile and I recently read that they have begun supported LTE. Sometimes it's just 3G and sometimes it's H+. I will call their support sometime over the next couple days because so far all I did was move the SIM card from my S3 to the OPO and perhaps it's not properly "provisioned(?)" for LTE yet? I say that because I watched one video on Youtube where a guy had to take his OPO to the AT&T store and put his SIM card in another LTE phone, then when he put the SIM back in the OPO, LTE started working on it.
Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
timmaaa said:
Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Honestly, I haven't had a single issue on Exodus. It doesn't come with Xposed pre-installed, but I'm not sure any ROM actually does. It has Privacy Guard, and it has Profiles. Battery life is excellent and it's as stable as they get.
Blisspop, or basically any ROM with CM themes do let you change the system font (it's part of themes).
like Team Nocturnal's latest ROM. Smooth, no bugs other for me. Never tried to set the font as of yet.
Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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No I'm not suggesting that at all. I use a custom DPI (370). I use Adaway. I don't use a custom font though. Keep in mind that certain DPI's can and do cause major issues, so you might need to tweak that a little. As far as wakelocks go, no, I wouldn't consider them an Alpha at all. Wakelocks can be found in stock ROMs from the major OEM's, and isn't always caused by the system, quite often they can be caused by third party apps, and apps from within the gapps package.
Hello Everyone
I'm ready to pull the pin on converting to GPE 5.1. I'm not that worried about being up to date; I sort of just want a ROM I don't have to worry about.
My concerns are very basic: I want a rom that I can set to cruise control.
Ideally, the ROM should be fast and easy to use. I like the idea of GPE being always up to date, I like flashing new ROMs, but what I know about GPE is that the experience isn't as nice as Motorola's stock ROMs.
My questions to those who have used both Stock and GPE (and perhaps other, custom, ROMs) are: Is GPE noticeably slower or glitchier than stock? Is GPE updated regularly? Do regular updates mean I have to give up root? (I don't mind not having root, considering this is an official Goolge ROM) Is there anything else I should consider?
I don't want to worry about updating, or reinstalling apps on my phone and the whatnot. There is no Arch Linux version of Android I can use, but maybe GPE is the closest thing.
Thanks!
IMO GPE 5.1 is somehow faster than moto edition. But it has the low memory killer issue which I believe there is no workaround for that, I already asked for some help, actually found a flashable zip for a "solution", but nothing. So you won't be able to multitask the proper way, since every time you minimize an app when u bring it back it opens all over again as if you closed it. Battery life and performance are great except for that issue. I believe I'll use blisspop from now on if I don't get this issue solved for tomorrow. As for updates I'm really not so sure but Bliss pop is using 5.1.1 already with this and other little big fixes. So for your concern about cruise control this may not be the best way as it will be closing the app regularly. Cheers.
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IMO GPE 5.1 is somehow faster than moto edition. But it has the low memory killer issue which I believe there is no workaround for that, I already asked for some help, actually found a flashable zip for a "solution", but nothing. So you won't be able to multitask the proper way, since every time you minimize an app when u bring it back it opens all over again as if you closed it. Battery life and performance are great except for that issue. I believe I'll use blisspop from now on if I don't get this issue solved for tomorrow. As for updates I'm really not so sure but Bliss pop is using 5.1.1 already with this and other little big fixes. So for your concern about cruise control this may not be the best way as it will be closing the app regularly. Cheers.
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Does it close apps that are supposed to be continuously running? Like playing music, or a podcast? The Moto G doesn't have a ton of RAM and from what I can tell I'm almost always running on full usage anyway. If it's closing apps that I want to use even while they're not front and center, that'll be annoying.
I don't need a ROM that is 100% up to date, I was just hoping that the GPE ROM would see regular updates that would be both stable and come with an expected frequency(I'm cool with an OTA that happens ever 3-6 months), without breaking my phone or deleting any of my personal data. I love custom ROMs, but I've come to a point where I just want a ROM I can rely on for long periods of time. With that said, you recommendation for Blisspop is welcome. Looking at the ROM (I haven't kept up to date with custom ROMs latetly) it seems pretty legit. My issues with CM12 (when I last used it probably a year ago) was that it was unstable and drained the crap out of my battery. Are those issues gone? I expect them to be. My battery life on the Stock LP ROM is outstanding. I can go about 2 days or more without charging, with about 3 hours of screen on time (I normally use my phone to listen to podcasts and audio books, reddit when I'm bored, so most of the time the screen is off anyway.)
you are correct, if you do a lot of multitasking i would not reccomend gpe 5.1 cause youll be facing that stupid issue. apparently this sorts the issue out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60203758&postcount=1363 but to be honest, it would not work for me, another workaround was found but it did not work either. worst thing is that i tried to go back to blisspop and i could not make it... :crying: i got an error while installing blisspop error executing updater binary in zip twrp. So I´m kind of stuck with this stupid glitch... fortunately everything else works awesome.
BTW, which LP stock are u using? is it retail brazil 5.0.2 ???
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you are correct, if you do a lot of multitasking i would not reccomend gpe 5.1 cause youll be facing that stupid issue. apparently this sorts the issue out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60203758&postcount=1363 but to be honest, it would not work for me, another workaround was found but it did not work either. worst thing is that i tried to go back to blisspop and i could not make it... :crying: i got an error while installing blisspop error executing updater binary in zip twrp. So I´m kind of stuck with this stupid glitch... fortunately everything else works awesome.
BTW, which LP stock are u using? is it retail brazil 5.0.2 ???
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Yeah, I'm on Brazil 5.0.2. I don't hate it, but I like the idea of being a bit more up to date, and a ROM that I know will get an update. I don't multitask often, but there are things I've seen in ROMs before that really upset me with auto-killing.
hey man, after some hard work and research i could go back to sweet blisspop rom. I tell ya good battery life, great performance, perfect multitasking (mention since that was what i was complaining for the other rom), and stability. no fc´s no random reboots, no crashes... beautiful. totally recommend it and plus its 5.1.1! maybe the only thing i can complain about this rom is ambient display, currently or apparently not working... maybe it will be re-enabled in future builds. plus its got some nice tweaks and features oh and if you like changing the look of your phone, its got themer, just get a cm12 theme from play store and change your entire ui. hope i helped u make up your mind regarding gpe stock and custom rom. cheers
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IMO GPE 5.1 is somehow faster than moto edition. But it has the low memory killer issue which I believe there is no workaround for that, I already asked for some help, actually found a flashable zip for a "solution", but nothing. So you won't be able to multitask the proper way, since every time you minimize an app when u bring it back it opens all over again as if you closed it. Battery life and performance are great except for that issue. I believe I'll use blisspop from now on if I don't get this issue solved for tomorrow. As for updates I'm really not so sure but Bliss pop is using 5.1.1 already with this and other little big fixes. So for your concern about cruise control this may not be the best way as it will be closing the app regularly. Cheers.
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Download Kernel Aduitor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor
Set this values in low memory killer stage:
Empty applications: 80 MB
Content providers: 64 MB
Hidden applications: 56 MB
Secondary server: 48 MB
Visible applications: 40 MB
Foreground applications: 32 MB
Set Apply on boot.
Problem solved !
MindLeader said:
Download Kernel Aduitor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor
Set this values in low memory killer stage:
Empty applications: 80 MB
Content providers: 64 MB
Hidden applications: 56 MB
Secondary server: 48 MB
Visible applications: 40 MB
Foreground applications: 32 MB
Set Apply on boot.
Problem solved !
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Actually did it mate, values never sticked. tried different apps, like rom toolbox, kernel adiutor, and minfree memory manager. none worked. gave su permissions apply on boot. nothing. but thanks 4 the feedback, moved out to blisspop which runs 5.1.1 issue is gone.
I decided to try out simplifying my phone and reduce issues that I've come across when using various custom ROMs, modified stock ROMs, etc... and used the Restore-To-Stock tool found in these forums. I then updated the phone via Settings, About, System Updates... then once that was done (Several times...) I was fully updated and ready to go. I flashed the latest TWRP & then installed the latest SuperSU for MM via TWRP... went into the file system and removed the APPs I did not want or need on my phone, wiped the caches and rebooted... I did this a few days ago and am insanely impressed by it. I forgot what stable and issue-free felt like... There's no fancy custom edits, no oddball quirks randomly from whatever was modified from various ROMs and after I installed xPosed, a few basic modules, setup Nova Launcher and all my APPs (Did a full fresh no restore of anything run through of it all)... I am the happiest I've ever been with my Moto X Pure (XT1575).
Once N pops in, I'll go through the whole process again, of course... but I think I might start sticking out simplified setups from here on out. I wanted to get the next Google "Nexus" phones released this year, but after seeing the Pixels and the prices... no thank you, I'm staying with my Pure for a while. I'm VERY happy with it... Dual front facing speakers are pretty much a necessity now for me. Internal Storage and Removable Batteries (prior to my Pure) are no longer my requirement. I've adjusted to pretty much using Google Drive and Google Play Music for all of my Files & Music with T-Mobile's no-data-cost of Google Play Music Streaming, I download my favorites (All I ever need would fit on a 32GB phone easily)... and Google Photos auto-backup has prevented me needing tons of storage options anymore... Battery you say though? No... I've YET to have a phone I wasn't able to charge on-the-go or even have a battery go bad.
Rambling here, this post was probably more for me than anyone who might read it, lol... I wanted the Moto Z so bad... but if I can't get an unlocked one that has the shatterproof display to use on T-Mobile... I don't see myself getting one at all. I want my next phone to have a fancy AMOLED hopefully shatterproof display with dual-front facing or at least a mod for sound / speakers like the Z and perhaps smaller top / bottom bezels. Not sure if I care about a fingerprint sensor yet or not. Anyway, have a great day everyone!!!
Have you compared debloated stock to tru pure x?
I've been thinking about doing something similar for the last few days. I've been running the latest TruPure since it came out several months ago. It might be the longest I've ever had an Android device without doing a clean flash of something, and things are degenerating.
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
CJ-Wylde said:
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
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You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
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You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
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What I've always done is go into TWRP and remove them myself. Going full fresh no restore means no real need for Titanium. Return-To-Stock first, then OTA your way up to current... THEN TWRP and SuperSU... then boot in, make sure everything is working and jot down on a piece of paper or Google Keep from your computer a list of the APPs you don't want.
Then power off, get into TWRP and mount /System, go into Advanced, File Manager and within /system/APPs and /system/PrivAPPs (Or something like that, memory just blanked) and find what was on your personal list... enter the folder for it, hit button bottom right, choose delete, done, go back and do the others... then wipe Cache / Dalvik and power off / boot up for the absolute freshest experience you can have with a stock ROM.
The trick is to NOT restore ANYTHING... install all your preferred Google APPs first, do the whole Google Phone install if you removed the stock Phone app, etc... (I remove it and the messenger, and a bunch of other stuff like the gallery, mail, etc... because I solely use Google services now).
I removed my case cover and have been carrying the phone around bare.
It's like I bought a whole new phone.
Have you guys tried a quality AOSP based ROM like Dirty Unicorn or BrokenOS?
Super stability. Nothing at all like running a CM ROM.
Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
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Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
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cant get it to recognize my sim
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cant get it to recognize my sim
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10/11 build will I bet. :highfive:
What apps/services did you remove? I'm running stock rooted myself and honestly I only see a couple of things I'd get rid of, nothing that would have any real impact on battery/storage though. This phone's stock ROM really is close to AOSP.
same too what apps did you remove tnx.. im not rooted .. tried uninstalling apps and guess what it got temp bootloop.. did hard reset using stock recovery and got fix again started tru welcome menu.... may i know guys what apps not to unistall tnx
Did a side by side comparison of apps in TruePure and stock. I counted 39 apps deleted from TruePure.
Android Live Wallpaper, Basic Daydreams
Bubbles, Calculator
Cloud Print, Com.Android.wallpaper.holospiral
Com.Motorola.audiomonitor.helper
Com.Motorola.bug2go
Com.Motorola.motgeofencesvc
Com.qualcomm.atfwd
Config Updater, CQATest
Demo mode, Device help
DiagMdlog Settings , Entitlement
Google Indic Keyboard , Japanese Input
Google Launcher Config , Korean Input
Pinyin Input , Play Movies
Play Music , Hangouts
Input Devices , Messaging
Moto Care , Moto Care int
Motorola Boot Services , Motorola Checkin
Motorola Notifications , Motorola One Time Init
Motorola Update Services
Native Drop Box Agent , Phase Beam
Rescue Add-on: Motorola
Sheets , Slides , Talk Back
I only deleted the extra Keyboards, Play Movies, Music, Hangouts, Sheets, Slides and Talk Back to be sure I had enough space for Xposed.
Hey guys, I own a Photon Q and plan on buying another for parts as mine got scratched up bad on a recent hike. i was playing around with other roms and thought I'd start a discussion thread for the few people still rocking the best QWERTY phone ever made.
My setup:
Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 (need to update to 2.1.4.14 soon)
Rainbow backlight
Sim modded obviously
It's fast, stable, and the battery life on Sailfish is easily double what I got on CM11 or even CM10.2
What other roms have I used?
LOS14.1 - Fast and lot's of fun, but the battery life was just garbage. Battery life was my only complaint, 15% gone in 30 minutes? REALLY?
CM11 - Fast but again, bad battery life.
CM12.1 - Oddly really slow compared to the above two but the battery life was meh, I blame different default clock speeds
CM10.2 - the best android rom. Decent Speed, decent battery life. Only issue is, you know, it's android 4.3.1, I prefer ICS over JB and wish CM9 was available.
Sailfish OS - of course, my favorite. Its super fast, and the battery is at 78% at the end of the day for me. It's something you just need to try for yourself. If you don't mind losing android app support make the switch you won't regret it.
What are you guys using? what tweaks? what rom? what hardware mods? what new phones/old phones are you looking at?
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
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About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
The Solutor said:
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
P.S.
About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
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c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
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c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
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The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
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The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
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*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
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I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Galaxyninja66 said:
*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
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Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
The Solutor said:
Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
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I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
I have very few apps installed, certainly no facebook or any social media anything besides hangouts, can't really think of anything to downgrade. Ah well.
enigma9o7 said:
I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
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F2FS is supported since LP.
There is also a PQ KitKat ROM with backported F2FS support.
To get full advantage of it you should have both /data and /cache partitions on f2fs.
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
Keep in mind that your "internal SD" is just a subfolder of /data, so you need to backup your data inside it as well, or just move temporarily them to the external SD
There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
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I don't have google voice on my phone since the days of Milestone 1, which come with a good internal voice recognizing app, small, local and effective (I think it still works)
By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
The Solutor said:
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
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There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
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By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
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As I mentioned, in my case, data was already f2fs and I just did cache. Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
enigma9o7 said:
Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
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System is basically a read only partition that changes only when you install a new rom, a zip from TWRP, or when you use a root file explorer to change somthing.
No writes = no need for a smarter FS.
That said I believe that, if you backup your system partition then you restore it on FSFS, it will work. The kernel supports it and I don't think it's "racist" about the partition involved.
Just there is no point in doing that, minimal (if any) improvements, v.s. possible troubles.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
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Ok.
But even on a Gapp Based ROM is still a pleasure to use Yalp over the Playstore.
When the resources are limited, anything that can be removed/replaced by a leaner version helps to improve the responsiveness.
The Solutor said:
Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
Stock browser is stock browser : (
I don't mind it and most people don;t, but the next best thing is webcat, which is basically the same thing.
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
Galaxyninja66 said:
honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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Frankly If it was for my I was still using Gingerbread, Surely its UI was not silky and refined like the new iterations, but the UX was light years better than anything that came later.
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Back to the browser, I feel incredible that I was able to have a good mobile experience using my P800 (which is the very first real smartphone, from 2002) or even a micro phone like the siemens SL-55 with its stamp sized display, while I couldn't get the same, in the AD2018, on a brand new smartphone, which has hundreds of times the power and the memory of them.
I feel just retarded that google moved the setting menu on the top left corner, just when the display started to become surf board sized, and i could continue for a day...
I feel completely crazy how most users decided to back any idiotic idea spooned to them by the big brothers. Starting from the terminology.
Think to "Sideloading"... seriously ?
Installing a program on my device, possibly a program written and compiled by myself is SIDE loading ? ?
I couldn't think to anything more "straight" and less "side" than that.
In short I try to limit the damage exactly like you do, then we give different value to different aspects of the device usage. Which is normal and human.
The point is not how we try to fix a problem, the point is that nowadays most people doesn't even realize that there is a problem to solve.:crying:
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
In my opinion all the custom ROM's have just as good battery life or slightly better then the stock Oxygen OS. Good thing about OnePlus phones is if you "brick" the device you can easily restore it with the MSM Download tool, so no need to worry about writing it off. If you want to remove all bloatware and control what google apps are installed maybe you would like OmniRom with a custom kernel (I feel like most of the kernels on here are all great, can't go wrong with any of the popular ones). If you want your phone to feel like the Pixel 3 (comes with a lot of google apps but using the OS feels pretty nice) I'd recommend the OmniTreskmod ROM.
If all you want to do is remove the bloatware xXxNoLimits ROM might be a good option. If you edit the script there are plenty of debloat options.
Hard to go wrong with this phone, it's pretty amazing. Good luck!
I recommend you:
treskmod
or stock + magisk + custom kernel
Do open beta 12 with smurfkernel
Settings for if you prefer battery life or performance.
I got an antutu score of 309,000 with smurfutil_flex
samsonix said:
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
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If you want an incredibly customizable experience, you have to try havoc os. It doesn't come with gapps preinstalled and is compatible with microg and battery life is pretty good too. This rom is very stable as well and it is more customizable than any other oneplus 6 custom rom.
Liquid Remix seems to be more stable (than HavocOS) for me.
It has a great Battery life (without any GApps installed) and about the same amount of features as Havoc does.
GApps always impact the battery life quite negative, but I don't know how much the difference exactly is in comparison, because I never installed any GApps package
Anyway, I can recommend that you look inro this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/
(The mentioned bugs for Liquid Remix are fixed in the recent releases)
For a clean, fast, reliable and polished ROM, you could try Pixel Experience. I've been using it on 3 phones, it's really amazing.
Or wait for Paranoid Android to get a bit more advanced. It's le Rolls Royce of Android ROMS.
About kernels, Smurf is my favourite. Awesome performance, AND awesome battery life. The phone last two days with a single charge and around 5h of screen-on time.
If you flash a custom ROM, wiping your phone data is mandatory though.
Edit : I'm a bit off topic, as you asked for something without preinstalled Google Apps and lots of customization, which is the opposite of Pixel Experience. I'm personally waiting for Paranoid Android, loved it since Nexus 4. This guys created head-up notifications, Oreo-style recents and floating window multitasking on Jelly Bean, for f*** sake, they are unbelievable.