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Hi guys,
Not sure it was there when I got my 32Gb Note 10.1 or not. I updated it to the latest software version early on. I don't have that many apps installed on it and only a couple of widgets on the desktop. The scroll stutters at times when I start scrolling: it starts off fine, then stutters for a short time, almost like a single hick up, and then continues just fine. It's doesn't happen 100% of the time but is more consistent as of late. I observed it going from screen to screen and in the main browsers scrolling through the page. I restarted the tab, closed running apps/services, which made no difference.
Has anyone noticed anything similar to that? Does that sound like a normal behavior? Have had a few Android phones before but this is my 1st Android tab so not sure what level of performance I should expect. Thanks!
Have not experienced any stuttering. The only time I have noticed the SGN10.1 stuttering is when drawing shapes in s.note. then it can get a little bogged down.
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Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
I was using HD Widgets and had a 8x1 clock/weather widget on my first home page. I was playing with the stock clock/weather widget and by removing the HD Widget's clock the stuttering improved a lot. I'm still using it for some toggles and that seems fine. If anyone is using HD Widgets you can remove the widgets you're not actively using and that seems to speed things up too.
i have a 3 day old 16gb wifi gnote. my experience with stuttering has been unmistakable in 2 places: general system animations (moving between screens or opening settings for example) and a laggy stock browser.
when i swipe home screens, i get similar stutters as the OP. so i went ahead and cleaned up all the stock (bloatware) widgets... hardly a solution but i hope it isnt a problem when i do install useful widgets soon.. someone suggested reducing animations to 0.5x or 0. well thats really sad for a higher end tablet i think. similar stuttering scrolls in gmail and play store.
with the browser, i usually get stutters when scrolling a fairly heavy page. the most annoying thing is that if there are many images on a page, the browser blanks them out when scrolling and then redraws them at the end of scrolling! so i simply installed chrome instead... and thats working better
i also tried this game called wind up knight just to see some 3d action... there too the stutter was quite obvious.
im not blown away by the quad core awesomeness out-of-the-box i must say. i think my 2 year old HTC HD2 (1ghz single core) is generally faster at running ics. i hope custom roms are able to better harness the hardware...
forgot to mention that i am running the old UEALGB rom
tonyz3 said:
Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
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So what exactly does this do?
I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
i didnt have my power saving mode on... the problem became extremely irritating with that feature on...
however i did restart my tablet and that did solve almost all my worries! i too now have a "buttery smooth" tablet before restart, my ram usage was around 1.4gb and i suspect around 70+ active apps in memory. after restart, my ram usage was 0.4gb and all the lags and stutters went away! so one possible solution could be for you to go to task manager and clean out active apps from memory. then check if there is any stutter in general usage. hope this helps!
ps: i did clean out all my home screen bloat widgets. so i really cant say how smoothly they will scroll after cleaning out the ram.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
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I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
tonyz3 said:
I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
Sparksltd said:
I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
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Thanks for sharing! Anybody else ran into this as well?
Actually, now that you mention it...
When i first received the tablet, i noticed the lag swiping from screen to screen. I shut it off after about 15 minutes, to charge the battery faster when the unit is off. After rebooting, i noticed it seemed to go much faster....
Also, after installing the update (which may or may not be available anymore) my overall smoothness went up about 100%, something i noticed immediately.
Doesn't stutter for me anymore, unless i have power saver mode on and really pushing it. Asphalt 7 (looks somewhat hi-tech 3d graphics, maybe not) runs exceptionally well, so i am not sure i'm getting the lag anymore. Maybe this is what some of the reviewers saw at first, while doing their first 15 minute review?
I can't complain anymore because it seems to be fine on mine, with the exception of this XDA app
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
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Once the jelly bean update finally comes around I am sure it will get smoother.
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Trying to get a sense if this is a widespread issue with almost every GNote or with just a small number of tabs. If first is the case then it can probably/likely be addressed via some software update. But if it's a later case then exchange is in order. I have no way of reliably validating it so I'll probably gonna go for an exchange early next week.
Anyone has some Samsung feedback linky handy, other than FB, by any chance? Thanks.
Not to hijack my one thread... but I have a new problem develop last night: some parts of the screen, left side in particular, in the standard browser weren't responding to touch/clicks. Tried clearing out all apps, restarting the browser, etc. Didn't help much. Seems to be better. Not sure what's going on.
Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
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Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?
skymera said:
Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
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Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?
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No it's not normal at all, if you do a clean install stock rom it should works fairly decent. If you unlock and flash Cleanrom it will flies!! This is no joke!!
If you unlock, flash cleanrom and then install dual boot ubuntu, it will blow your mind.
I never know what to say when this query pops up.
I'm with the CROMi users, yet this tablet should of course run fine with the original OS.
The consensus obviously is all over the place as far as user experience.
Some are fine with Android in the pure form others are disappointed.
I was initially disappointed, yet after going with a custom ROM the satisfaction and performance level has topped out.
I do agree this is not normal but.. reading what Asus tells people like on Newegg haha their answer was to "cold boot it should take care of it". Not call us we will fix it but act like this is normal. When some people never have this problem..
Since my Desire Z I have really had great respect for almost every Google App.
Slowly since then Google has been messing up every app they have, requiring me to mess around and waste my time every single week it seems.
Then Google decided to abandon microSD and dragged HTC along with them.
The first victim was Google maps. I loved Google Maps 6. At first it worked great and did everything I asked of it. Slowly over time even Maps 6 started to suffer. Upgrading my HTC One S to Android 4.1.1 resulted in a Google Maps that never worked properly again unless an old version was side loaded.
I got a Samsung S3 and Maps 6 worked well for me. Then came 7 and what a mess it was. After months it finally is usable on my S3, but Maps 7 consumes so much power that my car charger can't keep up and on long trips my battery will deplete even when plugged in. And my phone gets very hot to the touch, very hot. Entering destinations by voice worked in 6, rarely works in 7. The traffic overlay has become inaccurate where it used to be almost accurate enough to drive with your eyes closed WRT speed.
The came battery problems associated with the play store and Google apps. Eventually I got so tired of it I just restricted background data on Play and as many Google apps as feasible. Battery life went from 6 hours to 23 hours. Unfortunately this seemed to eventually cause issues with sync and Gmail required hours and much frustration to fix. After that things seemed to work even without background data disabled.
Then came Chrome which I used and was extremely satisfied with until the end of 2013. Then the back screening started where loading bookmark page caused the Chrome Screen to go black and unresponsive. I put up with that for months and now it is worse with screen freezing with the bookmark icons visible instead of a black screen. Reinstalling may fix this but I am tired of this and simply switched to Firefox. Firefox was also much faster and had no issues so far .... ironic, Firefox makes a better browser than Google despite that they manage Android.
Every problem I have had has been fixable with some pain and suffering on my part so it isn't my hardware .... but I am tired of the pain and suffering. I have an S3 which might just be the most common phone on the planet so there is really no excuse for all these issues.
So whats left ...... Gmail and Android itself. They are next on the block .... Google is already slipping ads into my mailbox but that isn't enough yet.
I also notice that Google has made it quite impossible to see negative reviews of software on the play store. Most were "This software sucks" or something UN-useful like that but mixed in were very useful reviews of the apps. Gone now because you just cant search them. I also notice that many of the forums to talk and complain about Android are gone form Google Forums.
All of this points to a company in serious decline or a company at war with Samsung, with issues being unaddressed or created for this phone to force upgrades and whatever.
Are Nexus phones ant better? I would consider buying one if they had microSD but they never will as that conflicts with Google's core business of information.
A year ago if when asked what my next phone would be I would have said and Android device, by HTC or Google if they supported microSD again, or Samsung most likely. Now I simply don't know. I am tempted to try Windows Mobile because despite what people say about M$, my homebuilt PC has been a rock with Windows 7 and there has always been a way to get it to do just what I want, and then I can forget about it and just use it. Windows 8 is a abomination without a touchscreen.
That is the problem with Android. I can't just forget about it and just use it ...... something is always messing up almost weekly. I have already stopped installing new apps a while ago because every new app was just too much of a risk for causing battery drain issues.
Seems like you need to install Greenify and hibernate any app that is keeping your device awake and using too much data.
I personally think that Google has not only created a great, stable OS in terms of battery life and performance...
But there is more greatness to come with what they offer and what the future holds.
The loss of the MicroSD card expansion was a hit, but you learn to manage and adapt.
Online cloud services are your best friend, that or learn how to manage what you put on your device.
In 9/10 situations, you really do not need to have your entire life on your phone... But that's just me.
But do check out Greenify and make a wakelock monitor app off of Google Play.
See whats doing the damage, and shut it down.
That or check out CM/AOKP/PA.
Great roms with excellent performance and battery life.
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
I've been running stock today and dev preview for a few weeks. Can't say I've noticed any lag.
Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
biraustefan said:
Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
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It's not Lollipop. Everything is smooth for me. Even schedule mode in calendar.
Not sure what you are seeing. But its like butter for me. Best update ever. I doubt I'll hardly mod it. At all.
biraustefan said:
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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Odd, my n5 is very smooth with lollipop
This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
biraustefan said:
This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
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If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
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If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
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It's not unusable or something like that, but it bothers me , because the animations are not so heavy..and it should run kinda lagless like kitkat.
I really hope google will update the apps and make them smoother.
Lag in calendar, when you scorl up or down. Huge lag, when i play youtube music in backround (Bad App, or Lolipop? I think bad app). Lag is and will be there, if you want to see it. :silly:
Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Then something went wrong with your install. Otherwise, everyone would be experiencing this.
it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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I tried every method, factory images install and manual install, all multiple times.
It's one of google's most unpolished updates. No dedicated gallery app, no face unlock, no new sounds, sluggish google apps etc. I am a big google fan , but I find my self disappointed.
I'm waiting for app updates and wishing for the best.
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it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
biraustefan said:
it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
biraustefan said:
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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You are not alone.
Animations and scrolling are in fact slower in Android 5.0 than in 4.4.4 by a large margin. You must be blind not to notice it.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
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no, I know that when battery reaches 10% or 15% it slows down the processing power and eliminates animations.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
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yes, it usually goes "wild" when I have low battery and it's charging, and that means animation lag, 1-2 seconds for the keyboard to open etc. in rest..well it's acceptable, it's not , from my experience , as smooth as kitkat, but it's usable and ok.
Haven't had any lagging issues, in fact this runs smoother then kitkat did, quite happy with the upgrade to be honest. There is always going to be bugs to be worked out, wouldnt be surprised if we see 5.x.x within the next 2 months.
there are 2 camps. the one who say it work ok and the opposite.
I don't think I have flashed it wrong.
It reminds me of the moto 360 problem. Same as now, some said it's choppy, some said that it's fluid and they had no problem
Anyone who says Android 5.0 not laggy is lying, sorry.
Animations must be instant from a perspective of allowing further instant interaction. Let me explain: when something is being animated the resulting screen must allow interaction as soon as you initiate the change in user interface. Right now in Android 5.0, animations are done such a way, you cannot do anything until animation has completed its transformation - and that's called a lag, a perceived delay in user interaction.
Hopefully Google engineers visit these forums and this problem is going to be fixed in future Android 5 releases.
Hey guys, I bought my A9 yesterday, it would be a great phone, but scrolling is laggy. It can even stutter for a bit in Settings, not even mentioning some websites and apps. And multitasking doesn't work at all sometimes. I just went to the phone's settings from a very simple website with no pictures for 10 seconds, and it reloaded. Sometimes it works better.
It must be the optimization right? I'm already running the latest firmware available for my phone, but it was released in, like February. Comparing to my previous SD800 phone, it opens up apps the same time etc, but these two bugs ruin the user experience for me, I don't think that the SoC is that much weaker. Is there a faster, previous firmware to use? I immediately updated after setting up the phone. And since I've read many feedbacks that said there aren't any lags, I thought something is wrong on my side.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Hi man, restart thé phone recover 90% problem
But when I have the same lag, I use "high performance MOD" in devlopper setting for 5 minute and the lag gone.
Thanks, but is this tolerable with a high price phone like this? I mean, it shouldn't act this way. When I use the phone from idle, it opens up things pretty fast, without a lag. But when I'm using it as I should (not killing apps, etc), it goes a bit crazy, even the lock screen animation lags.
my htc A9 speed test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=dEsjk68kq28