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Is the lag problem on the captivate a big deal?

Hello,
I am thinking about getting a captivate while they're on sale at amazon. I played around with one at ATT and I didn't notice any lag problems, is it hit or miss depending on the phone you get? Does everyone who has a captivate notice this?
Also, what is meant by lag in this instance. My evo has noticeable input lag unless I unlock the screen, is this something similar or a different kind of lag? It's kind of annoying seeing all these high end phones have annoying problems like this, but I might get the captivate anyway because of the beastly gpu in it and the awesome screen.
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They all have it. It's not a big deal unless you are coming from a faster phone. Then it's obvious and annoying. If it does start to bother you, there are now very robust and easy to apply fixes that make it as fast as any phone. So long story short: It's not a big problem.

Mine, after much customization, but still running the stock JF6 ROM and kernel, seems to run pretty well. Much better than my roomate's unrooted stock Vibrant, that's for damn sure. I honestly don't know what the difference is. I've used OS monitor to see usage, and he actually has significantly more free RAM than I do. 170MB to ~100MB. I have reflashed using Odin one click, and am rooted with all bloatware removed. The Evo black bar and Launcher mod are installed, and I'm using Beautiful Widget and Live Wallpaper. He is using no widgets and a static wall paper with ADW launcher.
I got nothin'.

My Captivate is stock, haven't even rooted it yet, and I generally don't have problems with lag. I notice it boots very slow, takes probably 10 min to settle down after boot. But once everything settles in there is very little lag. I'm coming from a Tilt2 with an Energy ROM. I have noticed animated wallpaper will slow it down a bit and certain widgets. The compass widget slowed mine down a LOT.

If you ask me, yes, it's a big problem. The lag is very noticeable and very annoying. Fortunately, as stated, there are fixes out that works very well.

As I'm sure you can tell from the comments its all relative. I came from an iPhone 3GS, and didn't really notice lag. I saw occasional lag when I have a lot running, but what can you expect with an OS that actually does multitasking. I use Advanced Task Killer (free in market) to kill things I don't need. I didn't see a speed boost, but saw a lag less often. I installed Taytanna(?) Lagfix and it does feel snappier. I wouldn't say the lagfix is a must, but see no reason not to get a little more bang for your Buck. Its a simple safe process.
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Slow, laggy and regular crashes.

Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
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Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?

skymera said:
Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
TL;DR
Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?
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No it's not normal at all, if you do a clean install stock rom it should works fairly decent. If you unlock and flash Cleanrom it will flies!! This is no joke!!

If you unlock, flash cleanrom and then install dual boot ubuntu, it will blow your mind.

I never know what to say when this query pops up.
I'm with the CROMi users, yet this tablet should of course run fine with the original OS.
The consensus obviously is all over the place as far as user experience.
Some are fine with Android in the pure form others are disappointed.
I was initially disappointed, yet after going with a custom ROM the satisfaction and performance level has topped out.

I do agree this is not normal but.. reading what Asus tells people like on Newegg haha their answer was to "cold boot it should take care of it". Not call us we will fix it but act like this is normal. When some people never have this problem..

Fixed the lagg! Phone is now amazing. - Swapped Units

After having done everything I possibly could to speed up the phone, reluctantly, I just went to an AT&T store to see if any of the employees had a Galaxy S4 that I could compare my lag issues too. None of them did, however I was able to swap out my release day S4 for a brand new one.
Let me tell you guys, there is a night and day difference. This phone is now performing like it should. It is fast, responsive, and I am NOT experiencing any of the previous lag issues. Everything is butter smooth with this new handset. I mean smooth!!!!! Menus, Internet browser, gallery, and the camera. Even with all the bloatware still enabled, this phone performs as Samsung wanted.
I strongly advise and urge anyone with lag issues to go in and swap out their handsets for a new one.
Mod Edit: I have lightly edited the title of your post so that it is not misleading or representative of an actual lag fix

Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....

burningembers said:
Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....
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If I had to take an educated guess before, I would have said the problem is in the software. The phone seemed fast, but still lagged.
I had almost talked myself into waiting till the next update. What a sucker I would have been!
Even went into the AT&T store, only wanting to compare my phone with another persons. I had no intention of swapping them out, but the CSR offered so I said what the heck.
Previously, I had lag while surfing the internet with stock Internet app, lag while switching through menus or apps, and most noticeably, was when I took a picture and immediately selected the new picture for viewing in the Gallery app. This would take about 10-15 seconds to process. The Galaxy S4 now takes a second to process the new picture and display it in the Gallery app.
Interesting enough, and I suppose this should have been an indicator, but restart your phone and watch the Samsung logo fly in. Does it lag or shutter or stutter at all? My old one did, but the new one is silky smooth.
I am one happy Galaxy S4 owner at this point.

burningembers said:
Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....
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OP: I did a factory reset on mine and it was awesome then the lag came back. It's software related, which will be fixed in an update soon.
Highly doubtful the hardware would be cashing lag. If so, they'll have to do a recall.

OP: please keep us updated and if your phone stays this way.

Grant H said:
If I had to take an educated guess before, I would have said the problem is in the software. The phone seemed fast, but still lagged.
I had almost talked myself into waiting till the next update. What a sucker I would have been!
Even went into the AT&T store, only wanting to compare my phone with another persons. I had no intention of swapping them out, but the CSR offered so I said what the heck.
Previously, I had lag while surfing the internet with stock Internet app, lag while switching through menus or apps, and most noticeably, was when I took a picture and immediately selected the new picture for viewing in the Gallery app. This would take about 10-15 seconds to process. The Galaxy S4 now takes a second to process the new picture and display it in the Gallery app.
Interesting enough, and I suppose this should have been an indicator, but restart your phone and watch the Samsung logo fly in. Does it lag or shutter or stutter at all? My old one did, but the new one is silky smooth.
I am one happy Galaxy S4 owner at this point.
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Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!

MattMJB0188 said:
OP: I did a factory reset on mine and it was awesome then the lag came back. It's software related, which will be fixed in an update soon.
Highly doubtful the hardware would be cashing lag. If so, they'll have to do a recall.
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My old S4 lagged from day one and even after a reset I did not notice an improvement.
It is quite possible though, that I had experienced a hardware fault on my last one, and that other people's issues will be fixed with a software update.

burningembers said:
Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!
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Yeah, those problems sound software related and fixable. I'll gladly wait for that update.

So you didnt actually fix the lag, you only swapped out the device. Kinda confirming the people with lag have faulty devices? :0

OP misstated, he switched out with an HTC One and that's why the lag was gone :laugh:

Can maybe someone post a short video of the lag that they experience coz im kinda skeptical if my lag is just right or may I just got used to it
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lyrad12 said:
Can maybe someone post a short video of the lag that they experience coz im kinda skeptical if my lag is just right or may I just got used to it
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I tried asking for this before since I dont have this terrible lag and noone has posted a video yet.....so it never happened.

burningembers said:
Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!
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SysAdmNj said:
So you didnt actually fix the lag, you only swapped out the device. Kinda confirming the people with lag have faulty devices? :0
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This was certainly my case lol. Maybe it it's others as well. I saw one other case where a swap fixed the problem.
Like others have just mentioned, I guess part of the problem was that I did not know the extent of my problem until I had the new phone. I thought that everyone was experiencing issues like mine with lag. Come to find out, I was probably experiencing far greater lag issues (possibly hardware related) than everyone else.

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Grant H said:
After having done everything I possibly could to speed up the phone, reluctantly, I just went to an AT&T store to see if any of the employees had a Galaxy S4 that I could compare my lag issues too. None of them did, however I was able to swap out my release day S4 for a brand new one.
Let me tell you guys, there is a night and day difference. This phone is now performing like it should. It is fast, responsive, and I am NOT experiencing any of the previous lag issues. Everything is butter smooth with this new handset. I mean smooth!!!!! Menus, Internet browser, gallery, and the camera. Even with all the bloatware still enabled, this phone performs as Samsung wanted.
I strongly advise and urge anyone with lag issues to go in and swap out their handsets for a new one.
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You didn't fix the lag... you swaped phones! You thread title is misleading...

I exchanged mine today and all I can say is that's it's better then my old one.
Buttery smooth it's NOT and it still lags and shutters a bit..
My previous S4 did not have the black crush issues and this one does... YAWN!
Exchange one issue for another...

silkshocker said:
OP misstated, he switched out with an HTC One and that's why the lag was gone :laugh:
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LOL, that would be the solution alright
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I think this is all placebo...
It's like when people flash a new rom and all the cache is cleared and no apps are installed - BOOM IT'S SO FAST NOA!!
Come on guys, the hardware doesn't have voodoo magic built in to it. This stuff is all manufactured down to tolerances within microns that are desirable for silicon-based electronics. They ALL perform within 1-2% of each other.. Outside variables such as temperature can affect this or current caches, etc..
Blaming the hardware is a rediculous joke IMO. If the hardware was at fault the phone would have much more severe problems than just some minor lag.

akira02rex said:
I think this is all placebo...
It's like when people flash a new rom and all the cache is cleared and no apps are installed - BOOM IT'S SO FAST NOA!!
Come on guys, the hardware doesn't have voodoo magic built in to it. This stuff is all manufactured down to tolerances within microns that are desirable for silicon-based electronics. They ALL perform within 1-2% of each other.. Outside variables such as temperature can affect this or current caches, etc..
Blaming the hardware is a rediculous joke IMO. If the hardware was at fault the phone would have much more severe problems than just some minor lag.
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You are right to a point.. Some phones will have hardware issues as it's the nature of the beast. Just like cars, washers, dryers, refrigerators, ect.. Make enough and some will not work properly..
My new S4 is a bit smoother as far as I can see but time will tell. I can say with absolute certainty that my old unit did not have black crush and this one does..

raqball said:
You are right to a point.. Some phones will have hardware issues as it's the nature of the beast. Just like cars, washers, dryers, refrigerators, ect.. Make enough and some will not work properly..
My new S4 is a bit smoother as far as I can see but time will tell. I can say with absolute certainty that my old unit did not have black crush and this one does..
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Without any real concrete evidence this post is nothing but heresay and everyone should be taking his word with a giant pinch of salt.
He technically should have benchmarked it roughly 5-10 times, averaged it.. CPU and GPU benchmarks as well... then benchmarked the new device. That would rule out a hardware issue. But we have no evidence, so we can't simply believe him.

akira02rex said:
Without any real concrete evidence this post is nothing but heresay and everyone should be taking his word with a giant pinch of salt.
He technically should have benchmarked it roughly 5-10 times, averaged it.. CPU and GPU benchmarks as well... then benchmarked the new device. That would rule out a hardware issue. But we have no evidence, so we can't simply believe him.
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Well, you are obviously correct about the needed benchmark evidence. However, its not that unusual for the specs of phones (especially ones that have been rushed for release) to vary a great bit. Though it is true that they are not supposed to. You have to remember that not all of these phones are manufactured and assembled in the exact same plant and in the past, it is known that panels and chip sets have been supplied differently because of demand issues. When the S2 Skyrocket was released, many of the first units had streaks or bars present in the display when it was dark...it was a hardware issue. Not all of them had it but many did. I'm sure other phones were released with similar issues to start with.
Overall, I think it is way to early to say if the majority of the problems on the S4 phones are software related, hardware related, or a little of both. It is also to early to tell if certain problems can be traced back to certain "lots" they may have been sub-standard. Releasing millions of phones to hundreds are markets in a short time causes a lot of confusion.
So maybe its hardware issues, maybe its software and can be fixed by the magical unicorn of all OTAs, or maybe it's a little of both. I think this is why what works for one phone might not work for the next. The only real fix will be to give things time to settle.

Supper annoying performance with laggy app animations

Hey everyone, just got my 4gb ram A51 not to long ago, and I'm definitely having a love hate relationship with the phone so far. I love the overall look, feel, and design of the phone, but its performance is becoming very frustrating to me.
I don't know if anyone else's Galaxy A51 phone is like this, but after I've had my phone on and have been using it long enough, the app animations (app switching, app opening and closing, etc) seem to suddenly become heavily reduced and extremely choppy, which lasts until I do a fresh restart, until it happens all over again. After I've restarted my phone, performance is good and more than acceptable in my experience. Occasionally an app might take a wee long to open, but its absolutely usable. I'm totally happy with my A51's performance before the choppiness seems to suddenly kick in.
So far, I'm on my second factory reset. This time I tried installing very few apps to try and limit the possibility that I might have some rogue app/process in the background ruining things, but this still happened.
Is anyone else having this issue/has had this issue before? I don't think it's a problem with how I'm using my phone. I feel like this could potentially be a firmware issue. I'm still stuck on the December update with the model that I have. If you have the January/February updates have you experienced this issue as well?
Thank you for your help. If I can't get this figured out on my phone I might return it.

Alfalfalaffa said:
Hey everyone, just got my 4gb ram A51 not to long ago, and I'm definitely having a love hate relationship with the phone so far. I love the overall look, feel, and design of the phone, but its performance is becoming very frustrating to me.
I don't know if anyone else's Galaxy A51 phone is like this, but after I've had my phone on and have been using it long enough, the app animations (app switching, app opening and closing, etc) seem to suddenly become heavily reduced and extremely choppy, which lasts until I do a fresh restart, until it happens all over again. After I've restarted my phone, performance is good and more than acceptable in my experience. Occasionally an app might take a wee long to open, but its absolutely usable. I'm totally happy with my A51's performance before the choppiness seems to suddenly kick in.
So far, I'm on my second factory reset. This time I tried installing very few apps to try and limit the possibility that I might have some rogue app/process in the background ruining things, but this still happened.
Is anyone else having this issue/has had this issue before? I don't think it's a problem with how I'm using my phone. I feel like this could potentially be a firmware issue. I'm still stuck on the December update with the model that I have. If you have the January/February updates have you experienced this issue as well?
Thank you for your help. If I can't get this figured out on my phone I might return it.
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Have you tried reducing windows animation in developer settings? Also in accessibility setting you can turn off window transitions effect

Alfalfalaffa said:
Hey everyone, just got my 4gb ram A51 not to long ago, and I'm definitely having a love hate relationship with the phone so far. I love the overall look, feel, and design of the phone, but its performance is becoming very frustrating to me.
I don't know if anyone else's Galaxy A51 phone is like this, but after I've had my phone on and have been using it long enough, the app animations (app switching, app opening and closing, etc) seem to suddenly become heavily reduced and extremely choppy, which lasts until I do a fresh restart, until it happens all over again. After I've restarted my phone, performance is good and more than acceptable in my experience. Occasionally an app might take a wee long to open, but its absolutely usable. I'm totally happy with my A51's performance before the choppiness seems to suddenly kick in.
So far, I'm on my second factory reset. This time I tried installing very few apps to try and limit the possibility that I might have some rogue app/process in the background ruining things, but this still happened.
Is anyone else having this issue/has had this issue before? I don't think it's a problem with how I'm using my phone. I feel like this could potentially be a firmware issue. I'm still stuck on the December update with the model that I have. If you have the January/February updates have you experienced this issue as well?
Thank you for your help. If I can't get this figured out on my phone I might return it.
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I just got the 4gb version and I'm not having those issues apart from when setting up the phone and google play downloading all my apps. Since then it's been fine. As a matter of course I always go into developer options and set window/transition and animator scale to 0.5, regardless of the phone I have and also set background process limit to 3 processes. I also disable certain apps I don't use too.
Try those and see how it works for you.

Android 11 update caused stuttering while scrolling slowly.

As mentioned, after the 11/One UI update, when I scroll slowly, like pretty slow, the scrolling us jumpy, laggy, whatever word you want to use for "not smooth". It's system wide, ui elements, apps, home screen, all the same behavior. it's really annoying as I love to scroll as I read. I have made sure adaptive is on, no power savings is on, tried enhanced processing. It even does it in safe mode.
Anyone else have this issue? I was going to do a full wipe but I suspect this was a bug introduced in Android 11.

I don't have this issue, just upgraded this morning.

Ended up taking the time to do a full wipe. Still have the issue...Great. Like just to confirm, if you're barely scrolling, real slow, the fps dips and jumps all the time. I confirmed this using GPUWatch in the dev settings. Is there really no one having this issue out there?
I'm tempted to send it in but if I just get another phone back with the same issue, that's a lot of wasted time.

Xalyx said:
Ended up taking the time to do a full wipe. Still have the issue...Great. Like just to confirm, if you're barely scrolling, real slow, the fps dips and jumps all the time. I confirmed this using GPUWatch in the dev settings. Is there really no one having this issue out there?
I'm tempted to send it in but if I just get another phone back with the same issue, that's a lot of wasted time.
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I see it too. I recorded a video to show it. I noticed it using Instagram and I also observe the problem going away in app restart. Is this what you see too? I'm wondering if Good Lock is implicated in this?
New video by Greg Bullock
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So funny enough, I dropped my fold, cracked the outer glass and bought bestbuy protection on it so I went and got a new phone. This did let me further test everything out. The new phone came with the original firmware version so I tested it through every upgrade. I think maybe I just didn't see it before but now I can see it happens on a new phone, regardless of version. Like I said, it's when you scroll very slowly which I tend to do often and happens quite literally everywhere. I tried to record it with gpuwatch but it locks the screen to 60 fps and doesn't show the stuttering in the data like it does in 120hz mode, even though it's still there. I'm honestly confused by this. No other phone has had this behavior.
Imgur was the best place to upload
https://imgur.com/a/5m6Nnzu
You can see when it start smooth but slowly devolves. It does not stutter when it slows down at the end of a scroll that you let go of (flick scroll)

Is it doing on both screens? It looks like you are using Nord VPN, could that slow it down?

Xalyx said:
So funny enough, I dropped my fold, cracked the outer glass and bought bestbuy protection on it so I went and got a new phone. This did let me further test everything out. The new phone came with the original firmware version so I tested it through every upgrade. I think maybe I just didn't see it before but now I can see it happens on a new phone, regardless of version. Like I said, it's when you scroll very slowly which I tend to do often and happens quite literally everywhere. I tried to record it with gpuwatch but it locks the screen to 60 fps and doesn't show the stuttering in the data like it does in 120hz mode, even though it's still there. I'm honestly confused by this. No other phone has had this behavior.
Imgur was the best place to upload
https://imgur.com/a/5m6Nnzu
You can see when it start smooth but slowly devolves. It does not stutter when it slows down at the end of a scroll that you let go of (flick scroll)
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Ah, you're talking about the inside screen. Yes, I have that too. Doesnt bother me very much, but I see your point.