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GB to ICS - What I lost in the Fire

I've had ICS installed on Desire S for the past week. I'm a bit disappointed at some features being missing. I was using standard GB with Sense 3.0 - nothing special.
Well here's my list of troubles - maybe someone can help me with them, or at least they'll be out there for the benefit of anyone taking the dive.
Browser no longer opens default app: Whenever I've installed a special purpose application (Wikipedia, IMDb, Google Play) and I search on the browser, I no longer get the option to open the page in its dedicated app - instead the page loads and I end up using the browser. Most of you might remember the browser on GB used to ask the standard which-app-would-you-like-to-use question, and whether you'd like it defaulted or just once, but it no longer does that.
The mail widget doesn't show the same as the app - I've got Mail configured to sync with Exchange on 6 folders. The widget has stopped showing the different folders - the app still shows them when I select "All Messages" and this was the default view on GB. I've looked for settings near and far, but can't find any to control this.
HTC Sense no longer has widgets to download: I miss the hourglass timer (countdown) and the battery widget.
Youtube widget now occupies 3x2 instead of the sleaker 4x1. Is it YouTube or Sense, I don't know - but I'm not completely satisfied by this change.
To be fair to ICS tho, I believe it's quicker and lighter on the battery - I haven't felt the common complaints of slower. Also, a browser issue that some people had complained about is non-existent in my case - Good for me!

dont know about the mail question ,, but for browser , clear data and clear defualts in setting>apps>browser,,,
htc-sense : yes it is a little wierd but unfortunately , u cant download more htc widgets on sense 3.6 ,
youtube : since i moved to ICS youtube widget is shown like this , on any ics rom,,, so its youtube, not sense

As far as I remember you can set default apps for actions somwhere in the settings. But the truth is that ICS from HTC is really annoying and battery life was worse for me than on GB.

islamomt said:
Browser no longer opens default app: Whenever I've installed a special purpose application (Wikipedia, IMDb, Google Play) and I search on the browser, I no longer get the option to open the page in its dedicated app - instead the page loads and I end up using the browser. Most of you might remember the browser on GB used to ask the standard which-app-would-you-like-to-use question, and whether you'd like it defaulted or just once, but it no longer does that.
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Are you rooted ? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865756&highlight=build+prop
Before i had problems with crashing links and apps weren't opening correctly.
Now for example i click youtube video in facebook app, it opens browser loads that address and asks what app to use. Checked youtube and don't ask in future.
Now works correct ;]

glacier1122 said:
but for browser , clear data and clear defualts in setting>apps>browser,,,
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Unfortunately this doesn't work.. but thanks for the idea
VnnAmed said:
As far as I remember you can set default apps for actions somwhere in the settings. But the truth is that ICS from HTC is really annoying and battery life was worse for me than on GB.
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The one you're talking about is in Settings > Apps association.. but that doesn't include the apps I'm installing.
Apparently the response below from remusator is the right way to go... At least it sounds right to me. I'll try it and report back.

To Root? Or not to Root? That is the question.
remusator said:
Are you rooted ? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865756&highlight=build+prop
Before i had problems with crashing links and apps weren't opening correctly.
Now for example i click youtube video in facebook app, it opens browser loads that address and asks what app to use. Checked youtube and don't ask in future.
Now works correct ;]
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Its sounds very likely that this is the right solution to follow... However, I'm not rooted. Would you recommend for or against (well, I think since you're rooted you probably will recommend it) but what are potential losses from rooting. I was against early in my warranty and OTA was still an option, but I'm not sure I have a case any more. Shall I just go ahead and root?

islamomt said:
Its sounds very likely that this is the right solution to follow... However, I'm not rooted. Would you recommend for or against (well, I think since you're rooted you probably will recommend it) but what are potential losses from rooting. I was against early in my warranty and OTA was still an option, but I'm not sure I have a case any more. Shall I just go ahead and root?
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root it now !! no risk , it is very, very easy ,, u can get rid of the stock buggy ics , and can have latest android 4.1 jellybean ! ,Sense 4 ! ur phone will be very fast and lighting , can play any HD game bceause u can overclock your cpu ! ,,, but you may lost ur warranty :silly:

You will loose your warranty, however there are methods how to put the phone in original (afaik).
Anyway, most of Desire S phones are probably out of warranty already.
Rooting doesn't exactly mean installing custom roms, btw...
But it comes hand in hand, and it means freedom. You can make whatever you like with your phone.
Rooting on gingerbread was pretty easy and straightforward.
You root only once and install custom recovery. Then you can flash every rom you like (Desire S Development section), even prerooted, so no need to root again ;]

I've started my investigation on rooting, but I'm wondering about S-on/off are those needed also. Would those be enough to modify the build.prop file? What about upgrading bootloader.
Apparently I have too many questions so if you can redirect me to a guide about all those... The 101 of everything root/bootloader etc. Is appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Everything u need

islamomt said:
I've started my investigation on rooting, but I'm wondering about S-on/off are those needed also. Would those be enough to modify the build.prop file? What about upgrading bootloader.
Apparently I have too many questions so if you can redirect me to a guide about all those... The 101 of everything root/bootloader etc. Is appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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You can also find a complete guide thread here. Read as much as you can before you're confident about rooting. If you follow instructions carefully and read the tips to avoid bricking your device then there is very little risk to rooting.

[Q] First things to do with new Z3?

Picked up my Z3 earlier in the week but am still currently using my S3. From those who already have the phone, what are some of the first things I should do? I wanted to make a Nandroid backup of factory setting but that's not possible without rooting and installing a recovery, which I'll not be doing until it can be done without unlocking bootloader. So what are some other things I should look at first?
Interested to hear some thoughts.

z4ppy said:
Picked up my Z3 earlier in the week but am still currently using my S3. From those who already have the phone, what are some of the first things I should do? I wanted to make a Nandroid backup of factory setting but that's not possible without rooting and installing a recovery, which I'll not be doing until it can be done without unlocking bootloader. So what are some other things I should look at first?
Interested to hear some thoughts.
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Get yourself a pc with adb (android development tool) sorted, so you can remove the `small apps` nonsense at the bottom of the recently used apps display. (No need to root,unlock etc your phone to do this). Small apps are just widget-like things you can have floating on top of your screen all the time.

I want to know if we need te charge or discharche the Z3 out of the box?

warplane95 said:
I want to know if we need te charge or discharche the Z3 out of the box?
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The manual says: "Make sure that the battery is charged for at least 30 minutes before you turn on the device for the first time."
Actually, you could read the manual while you're waiting!

I'll receive mine today or tomorrow, so I just want to be sure to not turn it on too fast

poldie said:
Get yourself a pc with adb (android development tool) sorted, so you can remove the `small apps` nonsense at the bottom of the recently used apps display. (No need to root,unlock etc your phone to do this). Small apps are just widget-like things you can have floating on top of your screen all the time.
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I'm actually a mac user so don't have access to a windows running pc and haven't bootcamped or setup a virtual windows partition, since I never really need it. So I'm guessing I'll have to give this all a miss.

poldie said:
Get yourself a pc with adb (android development tool) sorted, so you can remove the `small apps` nonsense at the bottom of the recently used apps display. (No need to root,unlock etc your phone to do this). Small apps are just widget-like things you can have floating on top of your screen all the time.
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Not sure why people hate the small-apps so much.
OP, run the Xperia update center, update apps and you're off to the races. Kinda boring, but it is what it is.

se1000 said:
Not sure why people hate the small-apps so much.
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I don't mind the concept. That is, I can see why some people might like it - some people use the floating heads feature of facebook messenger after all - but to have it use up so much space under the completely unrelated recent apps list, with no way to remove/edit it is just plain stupid, and is the sort of thing that makes people want stock android.

Extremely slow and laggy

So I got my Nvidia Shield a while back. The first thing I did when getting it was installing all the updates. Eventually after the final update was installed, I did a full factory reset of the device.
I have hardly any apps installed besides the essential Google applications, but my Nvidia Shield still feels remarkably slow. Chrome is practically unusable, and switching between apps is not a pleasant experience at all. That said, benchmarks and games perform wonderfully, which has me a bit puzzled. There doesnt seem to be any problems with memory leaks as there is plenty of RAM available. I do tend to restart it quite often just to see if it makes a difference, but I doesnt really feel like it has much of an impact.
Does anyone here have similar issues at all? I have worked with Android quite a bit and never have I experienced a system run Android so much worse than you would expect given the hardware specifications. My Nexus 10 feels a lot more snappy in general use.
Thanks for any help

All I can say is that I have a similar experience to you, although I have quite a lot of applications installed. I don't have any solutions for you, only to wait and hope that nvidia optimises the software for the hardware in the next update (Android 5.1 hopefully)

It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit

I've had this problem too.
I just turned off battery saver. It got too low, automatically turned on and I didn't realize but when I turned it off, it got way faster.

albertorodast2007 said:
It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
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The Lollipop memleak bug is pretty easy to detect though and that's not what's causing the performance issue on the Shield Tablet. At least not in my case. While I would normally be the first to unlock my bootloader and port CM to my new device, I would want to keep my tablet stock.
Im glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing issues so Im going to assume that there's nothing specifically wrong with my device in particular. I guess Ill give Nvidia one more chance to rectify performance issues with their next update, otherwise I'm selling the tablet and buying a Nexus 9 or something else.

I have the same experience. I have flashed the latest recovery image, unlocked and rooted. I have disabled apps I don't need and does not have a lot of apps installed. It is unbelievable slow. Like stated above Chrome is almost useless and switching apps is painful. I am using my Nexus 10 too, the Shield tablet will collect dust until there is a fix released.
If I have the time I will try flashing CM12 but I rather stay stock.

You should give it a shot...

Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.

albertorodast2007 said:
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
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This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.

I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.

Please remove. (Double post)

NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.

danjull said:
Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
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I have it rooted, with xposed, and a lot of apps. I may try CM over the weekend.

NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.

kickassdave said:
Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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And GRID also works fine. The only deal breakers (and the ones every dev is working hard to make em work on AOSP) are console mode and the controller wireless pairing.
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jasonpctech said:
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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That's contradictory. I have a really tiny LMK value for foreground apps (foreground= 8mb, Visible=16, secondary=32, hidden=64, content provider=96, empty=128 ) so apps in the foreground are killed only if system goes under 8mb of free ram, and have no lag, but I'm on CM12.1. So I really don't know how this is working but I'm glad for you. Although it may drain your battery faster BC android is killing apps as soon as they go to the foreground to keep that amount of free ram and is using more CPU cycles to load them back when you need them again, that's what I get. But anyone with more knowledge maybe could guide us why this is working???

Interesting, it's working but I didn't even try any other variables. I will try your settings and get back. Needless to say battery life is next after usability.
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Ok tried your suggestion verbatim. It immediately was back in useless mode as I have been calling it. Without a reboot it took me at least 15min to get back to here. Still could not type so minmanged back to previous settings and its running. Weird.
My test would have been run Facebook, chrome & this app with poweramp music. Never got halfway before it got all James May on me. Are we running the same tablet? Any thoughts on why we could have opposed settings and get different successful results.
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Also when it slows down it gets warmer the settings I'm using leave it pretty cool in comparison.

I'm on stock 5.0.1, 32gb SD + internal memory almost full. I experience some lag mainly with chrome and switching app. Yestetday I tried to set the power saver to "max performance" and the everything seems much smoother..

Make sure you SD cards are formatted with NTFS. exFAT is fine for 32gb, but if you have a 64GB or higher, the card needs to be formatted in a PC using NTFS...

Don't ever let your main ram storage memory get below 500meg.
If somehow you run out of memory,, let's say sub 10megs then all manner of weird things begin to happen including reboots and app crashing. You can jam that external sd1 card full however.

I reset mine several times and tried everything I saw in these threads about the lagginess and stuff.
In the end, I found the solution. I returned the NST and exchanged it for a new iPad Mini 2 32gb Retina Screen... No really.
I love Android on the phone, but it just seems that the tablet arena isn't anywhere near as far along and sorted out yet. Buggy, almost too many options, so you wonder how much love each model gets from the manufacturer, etc... I hate to have a new tablet for $300, and the only way to get it to run the way it was supposed to run out of the box, is to void the warranty, root and install a custom ROM on it, and give up some features in the process.
I like ROMs for things that they do above and beyond the stock experience. I don't feel that I should pay that much for a device and have a ROM be a requirement just to get it to run decently...
So, for my tablet needs, I had to go to the dark side. Good luck!
I will still rock my Note 4 and don't see myself going to Apple for my phone needs any time soon, but for a general purpose tablet for Netflix, email, browsing and basic games... I agonized for hours over this but in the end I just pulled the trigger and exchanged it.

[DISCONTINUED] Turboid 1.13

Now that we've got some Sunshine in our lives, sadly (not really) it is time for Turboid to be retired. We don't need it anymore.
If you would like to set up a rom on your unlocked Turbo that has all the features that Turboid had, upgrade to SU4TL-44, unlock with Sunshine, install TWRP, and flash following:
1. SuperSU: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/
2. Busybox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...-busybox-v1-23-2-stericson-flashable-t3114476 (NOTE: This is not the latest version, but you need to have busybox flashed before you flash Pon-3. Once you boot the phone, use Busybox Installer by Stericson in the Play Store to update to the latest version).
3. Pon-3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976
4. Xposed Framework: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (Make sure to flash the correct SDK for the rom that you're running. SDK21 = Lollipop 5.0.X. SDK22 = Lollipop 5.1.X. SDK23 = Marshmallow 6.X. Also, always use the ARM version.)
5. iOS 9.1 emojis: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/mod-ios-emojis-android-t3231571
Once all that's flashed, let the phone boot up. Wiping cache and dalvik cache is always a safe bet after flashing anything. Once it boots, do the following:
1. Go back to the Xposed page and install the Installer apk.
2. Get Adaway here: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway (Install using the default settings. No need for redirecting the hosts file anymore.)
3. Better Battery Stats is here if you like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
4. The Turbo 2 command center is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/themes-apps/droid-turbo-2-command-center-root-t3244386
I think that about covers it. Go forth and flash! Thanks for letting me play dev for a few months.
Thanks to:
@computerfreek274 for his excellent roms, his dedication to them and for our SELinux discussion
@JulesJam for her various guides and posts that taught me how to do most of this
@btdownloads7 for answering my question about the HDR bug
@DespairFactor for the iOS 9.1 emoji port
@mrchezco1995 for showing myself and the world how awesome ponies can sound via Pon-3
And at long last, thanks to @jcase and @beaups for kicking Motorola and Verizon in their bootloader-locked balls!

Awesome man. Nice to have some options, even if they are fairly similar. Thanks. :good:

my2cents said:
Awesome man. Nice to have some options, even if they are fairly similar. Thanks. :good:
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No prob! If you can think of anything else that you would like me to add to it, let me know.

TheSt33v said:
Unlike the other images floating around, I started off with the stock SU3TL-39 system image from the full Verizon firmware. To the best of my knowledge, the other roms are based off of firstEncounter's 5.1 image, which was obtained in a different way. Does this matter? Probably not, but at the time I thought that this might fix the HDR bug, and it did, but probably not for that reason.
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There's a SU3TL-39 full firmware? My images were based on the SU3TL-38 and updated to SU3TL-39 by emulating the OTA script.
(Also, HDR works on my images, for whatever it's worth)
Regardless, always glad to see more development for the Turbo!

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There's a SU3TL-39 full firmware? My images were based on the SU3TL-38 and updated to SU3TL-39 by emulating the OTA script.
(Also, HDR works on my images, for whatever it's worth)
Regardless, always glad to see more development for the Turbo!
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Yep! You can get it on the motofirmwares website. Yeah, someone confirmed for me the other day that it works on your image now. In the past, I had flashed it and it didn't, but you've updated it since I did that. So I guess HDR working isn't really a feature anymore. I'm working on some gimmicks to make my image a little more relevant though.

Would it be possible for you to allow us to claim space to the area where the Google Search Bar is, when it is hidden? Also, I would like to be able to clear all the open applications without having to swipe them all one at a time. Is that possible?

my2cents said:
Would it be possible for you to allow us to claim space to the area where the Google Search Bar is, when it is hidden? Also, I would like to be able to clear all the open applications without having to swipe them all one at a time. Is that possible?
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I'll look into the Google search bar thing. I've never seen my screen without it, so I didn't know that the space wasn't automatically used. As for the clear all recents thing, that is one of the many features of Gravity Box for LP (a well known xposed module). Try that. I'll see if there's a way to bake it into the rom too.

I posted on the other thread about this, but I will say again here, this img is great. Has similar battery life to the other Lp img I was running, despite not having tweaks. I unplugged at 530 am. been kicking butt all day long. I streamed via Bluetooth for 2 hours driving at work, and noticed better 4g signals than I have had yet at my work using this img. There were zero glitches or bugs that I noticed. I am still at 8% battery, atm. I had a crapload of SOT. Look for yourself. amazing img. thank you!!!

p.s. I just noticed I have had max brightness all day as well. lol.

I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!

^^^ I used the Outlook app as a replacement today. Gmail also will allow you to add other email accounts now, so that may be why. As far as requests, my only one may not be reasonable or practical, but it would be a deodexed version of this. Again, awesome work.

Yeah, specifically, I need the exchange piece. I tried the outlook app, but it doesn't handle certain things as well. I also tried installing Google Email 6.5 as well as the Exchange Services apk, but I know I have to be missing something... Actually, probably lots of things! haha.
Also, adaway doesn't work with this build, is that right?

kitcostantino said:
I posted on the other thread about this, but I will say again here, this img is great. Has similar battery life to the other Lp img I was running, despite not having tweaks. I unplugged at 530 am. been kicking butt all day long. I streamed via Bluetooth for 2 hours driving at work, and noticed better 4g signals than I have had yet at my work using this img. There were zero glitches or bugs that I noticed. I am still at 8% battery, atm. I had a crapload of SOT. Look for yourself. amazing img. thank you!!!
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Awesome! I'm glad it works well for someone other than me.

kitcostantino said:
^^^ I used the Outlook app as a replacement today. Gmail also will allow you to add other email accounts now, so that may be why. As far as requests, my only one may not be reasonable or practical, but it would be a deodexed version of this. Again, awesome work.
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Well if you need the stock email app, I can send an image your way that has it once I find some time. I have no idea what deodexing roms entails, but that sounds like a fun project too. I'll look into it.

my2cents said:
Yeah, specifically, I need the exchange piece. I tried the outlook app, but it doesn't handle certain things as well. I also tried installing Google Email 6.5 as well as the Exchange Services apk, but I know I have to be missing something... Actually, probably lots of things! haha.
Also, adaway doesn't work with this build, is that right?
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Correct. I didn't put adaway in there. I probably could though. Stay tuned.

my2cents said:
I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!
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Haha yes, updating seems to not cause the apocalypse to occur this time around. I'll make an image that has the stock email app intact, or I'll try sideloading it and post the apk if it works.

my2cents said:
I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!
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I added the stock email app back. Side loading didn't work. Will be up in a few hours.

thats cool. honestly, deodexing is removing all of the .odex files from the rom. (located at /system/app , system/priv-app, etc.
the reason i ask about it is it would make theming easier. mind you, without system r/w access, it is a moot point. it may make the theme options available work better though. (LPthemer module comes to mind). CF has said he will not be doing that at any point, so it may be a PITA.

kitcostantino said:
thats cool. honestly, deodexing is removing all of the .odex files from the rom. (located at /system/app , system/priv-app, etc.
the reason i ask about it is it would make theming easier. mind you, without system r/w access, it is a moot point. it may make the theme options available work better though. (LPthemer module comes to mind). CF has said he will not be doing that at any point, so it may be a PITA.
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Oh. That's it? I can do that in 2 seconds. I thought there was something more to it.

1.02 looks like the perfect ROM for me! Thanks @TheSt33v

Root when Marshmallow is out?

So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?

Is your bootloader already unlocked?
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Nope not yet.. i dont want to void my warranty yet

Then u may as well wait
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Never know someone might find a bug in marshmallow to allow locked bootloader root. Anything is possible
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calvinerico said:
So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?
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Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait

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Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait
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Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?

ChristianLetti said:
Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?
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Certainly
Removed The Following from device.. on a (Rooted Xperia Z5, Unlocked Bootloader)
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Browser (small app) --- (this app is so useless, it just doesn't belong)
Explore (Sony) ---- (Not interested)
Facebook ---- (I dont use facebook)
Linked in ---- (Dont use / need it)
Playstation App ---- (Dont need / use it)
Account Manager (Sony) ---- (Useless, Not needed)
Creative Effect --- (I Dont bother with camera effects and photo editing, i just take photos as they are)
Drive --- (Google, Again- I Dont need / use it.. cloud storage on google.. no thanks!)
File Commander ---(Don't like it) (I use ESFileExplorer instead)
Google Lyrics Extension --- (Like seriously, Wtf is the point of this useless app) its legit, useless. haha..)
Google Play Books ---(Dont need/use it.. pointless app, waste of space/ram)
Google Play Games --- (I dont sign in with my information to play games) (Problematic App, Just delete it) even after deleting it i play every game fine, without any problems.. (Safe to get rid of it)
Google Play Movies --- (AGAIN, unwanted bloatware, Who The. **** would even consider using this, pay to watch movies, HAHA yeah right!)
Google Play Music --- (Yet AGAIN, unwanted useless bloatware, when i can use Youtube/TubeMate instead)
Google Play Newsstand --- (GET OFF MY DEVICE, Extremely Useless bloatware AGAIN.) I hate anything google relation UNLESS it's needed (Play store, Play services, like thats fair enough)
Google+ ------(Hell no, GONE.. I dont need it and dont want it, To me it is considered BLOATWARE) most google related APPS also ask for unrestricted / Excluse access to your entire device.. Like wtf.. NO thanks!
Hangout ------(bye bye bloatware)
Movie Creator ------( Dont need / use it ) simple video recording is plenty for my use..
News & Weather ------( Don't Want it on my device, When i can simple check everywhere else with consuming ram / space) drains battery aswell.
Photos ------(Dont need it, WHy would i use it when I have an App called ALBUM that works good enough) (And I'm not in to the whole photo sharing/social crap that goes along with it.. (Bloatware in my eyes)
Playstation Video ------(Dont use / Need it)
*****ALSO, I removed the default theme Colors that i did not like/want.. I kept Dark & Red.. I deleted the rest though "Orange, Purple, Blue, Green, White" each one was 8MB .. (Dont need things on my device that i wont be using, Right?? ****
Socialife ------( Blah blah blah, Gone!!!)
Sound Photo ------(ahhh yeaaah--nahhhhh) useless to me.. Considered bloatware.
TalkBack ------( Gone )
Video------- (Unwanted Bloatware)
Weather Widget -------(No Thanks, As small as this app Appears to be) It is a god damn battery killer.. Thats A fact!!!! Location>
And that should pretty much be it for now, unless i have missed anything..
Hope that was enough info for you mate ..
Then,

A few others i removed, are a few pointless key modules as well (mainly camera related)
(Lips, sunshine etc) these modules are obvious to spot.. Their icons are of little smiley faces each module with a different color smiley face.. Get rid of all the ones you dont need / want..
Also remember to always restart your device when disabling / force stopping / deleting apps/services / modules / core services etc so that any remaining residual files are removed completely and the new (device spring clean) takes effect.
So restart once you have removed everything you dont want or need..

FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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millicent said:
FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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It never did that to me on LP..

TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)

Hey man,
Don't worry about your warranty ! It's not a problem voiding it as soon as you know how to repair a bootloop or those sortr of things. It will (of course) won't void your technical warranty and, trust me, it worth it (see @TheTecXpert , he done a lot of great things )
Of course this is your choice to wait. It's a good solution too, but rooting is very cool on Android. Think twice

Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)
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Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)

smiley.raver said:
TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)
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Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.

theprince1991 said:
Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.
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@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
Anyway, Once you launch the APP (of your choice) , you will be in a menu with ALL APPS that you can remove.. they will be in categories and alphabetical order.. the App will specif things like "could remove", "should keep", "Key Module" etc etc...
From there you can just uninstall all the crap that is not need and anything else you dont want.. In an earlier post I have a long list of APPS and modules that I removed from my phone which gave me an OVERALL stable, clean, fast and Battery Life improvement on the device.. I'm happy with it.. And Warranty is never an Issue for me since i've always rooted ALL of my Sony Xperia devices and have never had any issues with them..
But everyone is different and has their own preferences on how they do things ..

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@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
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Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:

theprince1991 said:
Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:
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No worries bro. Any time [emoji6]
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Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?

thedude90 said:
Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?
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You need to supply your device's imei which is located in Settings>About phone.. Pretty straight forward bro.
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