Root when Marshmallow is out? - Xperia Z5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?

Is your bootloader already unlocked?
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Nope not yet.. i dont want to void my warranty yet

Then u may as well wait
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Never know someone might find a bug in marshmallow to allow locked bootloader root. Anything is possible
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calvinerico said:
So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?
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Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait

TheTecXpert said:
Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait
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Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?

ChristianLetti said:
Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?
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Certainly
Removed The Following from device.. on a (Rooted Xperia Z5, Unlocked Bootloader)
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Browser (small app) --- (this app is so useless, it just doesn't belong)
Explore (Sony) ---- (Not interested)
Facebook ---- (I dont use facebook)
Linked in ---- (Dont use / need it)
Playstation App ---- (Dont need / use it)
Account Manager (Sony) ---- (Useless, Not needed)
Creative Effect --- (I Dont bother with camera effects and photo editing, i just take photos as they are)
Drive --- (Google, Again- I Dont need / use it.. cloud storage on google.. no thanks!)
File Commander ---(Don't like it) (I use ESFileExplorer instead)
Google Lyrics Extension --- (Like seriously, Wtf is the point of this useless app) its legit, useless. haha..)
Google Play Books ---(Dont need/use it.. pointless app, waste of space/ram)
Google Play Games --- (I dont sign in with my information to play games) (Problematic App, Just delete it) even after deleting it i play every game fine, without any problems.. (Safe to get rid of it)
Google Play Movies --- (AGAIN, unwanted bloatware, Who The. **** would even consider using this, pay to watch movies, HAHA yeah right!)
Google Play Music --- (Yet AGAIN, unwanted useless bloatware, when i can use Youtube/TubeMate instead)
Google Play Newsstand --- (GET OFF MY DEVICE, Extremely Useless bloatware AGAIN.) I hate anything google relation UNLESS it's needed (Play store, Play services, like thats fair enough)
Google+ ------(Hell no, GONE.. I dont need it and dont want it, To me it is considered BLOATWARE) most google related APPS also ask for unrestricted / Excluse access to your entire device.. Like wtf.. NO thanks!
Hangout ------(bye bye bloatware)
Movie Creator ------( Dont need / use it ) simple video recording is plenty for my use..
News & Weather ------( Don't Want it on my device, When i can simple check everywhere else with consuming ram / space) drains battery aswell.
Photos ------(Dont need it, WHy would i use it when I have an App called ALBUM that works good enough) (And I'm not in to the whole photo sharing/social crap that goes along with it.. (Bloatware in my eyes)
Playstation Video ------(Dont use / Need it)
*****ALSO, I removed the default theme Colors that i did not like/want.. I kept Dark & Red.. I deleted the rest though "Orange, Purple, Blue, Green, White" each one was 8MB .. (Dont need things on my device that i wont be using, Right?? ****
Socialife ------( Blah blah blah, Gone!!!)
Sound Photo ------(ahhh yeaaah--nahhhhh) useless to me.. Considered bloatware.
TalkBack ------( Gone )
Video------- (Unwanted Bloatware)
Weather Widget -------(No Thanks, As small as this app Appears to be) It is a god damn battery killer.. Thats A fact!!!! Location>
And that should pretty much be it for now, unless i have missed anything..
Hope that was enough info for you mate ..
Then,

A few others i removed, are a few pointless key modules as well (mainly camera related)
(Lips, sunshine etc) these modules are obvious to spot.. Their icons are of little smiley faces each module with a different color smiley face.. Get rid of all the ones you dont need / want..
Also remember to always restart your device when disabling / force stopping / deleting apps/services / modules / core services etc so that any remaining residual files are removed completely and the new (device spring clean) takes effect.
So restart once you have removed everything you dont want or need..

FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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millicent said:
FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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It never did that to me on LP..

TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)

Hey man,
Don't worry about your warranty ! It's not a problem voiding it as soon as you know how to repair a bootloop or those sortr of things. It will (of course) won't void your technical warranty and, trust me, it worth it (see @TheTecXpert , he done a lot of great things )
Of course this is your choice to wait. It's a good solution too, but rooting is very cool on Android. Think twice

Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)
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Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)

smiley.raver said:
TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)
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Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.

theprince1991 said:
Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.
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@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
Anyway, Once you launch the APP (of your choice) , you will be in a menu with ALL APPS that you can remove.. they will be in categories and alphabetical order.. the App will specif things like "could remove", "should keep", "Key Module" etc etc...
From there you can just uninstall all the crap that is not need and anything else you dont want.. In an earlier post I have a long list of APPS and modules that I removed from my phone which gave me an OVERALL stable, clean, fast and Battery Life improvement on the device.. I'm happy with it.. And Warranty is never an Issue for me since i've always rooted ALL of my Sony Xperia devices and have never had any issues with them..
But everyone is different and has their own preferences on how they do things ..

TheTecXpert said:
@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
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Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:

theprince1991 said:
Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:
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No worries bro. Any time [emoji6]
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Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?

thedude90 said:
Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?
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You need to supply your device's imei which is located in Settings>About phone.. Pretty straight forward bro.
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Related

Prevent Google from Deleting / Installing Programs

Hi,
i don't have a android phone yet. But i'm still a little bit frightened about data security there.
I read this article:
hxxp://w ww.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_install/
I think normally you should decide yourself what to uninstall and what not.
So my question is - would it be possible to prevent Google from Accessing your phone, means prevent them from Installing / Uninstalling Applications.
Cause i hate this. My phone is my phone and they aren't allowed to play the "admin"
Regards
eagle
fear not
If you read further into this they are talking about malicious apps and it is done for the malicious app or apps only they are actually protecting your phone from being crippled and it is done systewide for those that use the market
APK's installed from SD can't be touched by Google. Only ones installed from the market can be removed. AFAIK so far they have only removed malicious apps(so far), but Googles definition of malicious is different to mine.
Hi,
thank you for your answers ! I know that they removed only a malicious app...but like mercianary already said: this time they only removed a malicious app ...
They could instead (of remote uninstall) just release a "fix" that you can download over the android market and this fix then cleans your mobile phone...
At least they can't remove stuff that you installed from SD ... this is good ...
But is there a way to modify the rom, so they won't have any access any more ?
Or can u disable this if you got root rights ?
Regards
eagle
P.S.
What else can google do with your phone ? What do they log ?
They take your soul. Piece by piece. Slowly over the years. Just like they do with every other product they give you for "free"
But that's another thread...
Sounds like humor but it's probably right :-/
The fact is ..:
I waited all time for Windows Phone 7. Thought that they would make it a good OS .. but now ... no Multitasking, ugly Menu ... it seems to me worse like the iOS (subjective opinion =) ) .
You don't have enough options/ settings and so on. It looks to me, like they try to copy Apple now, and they don't try to make it better =(
And now Android comes with tethering, Hotspot-Ability, a nice menu ... a "free" market , and so on.
Wouldn't i be afraid of Google i would choose it without hesitation.
You got any Pro Points for Win7 Phone ?
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Don't get me started on Microsoft...
It's certainly possible to mod Market to disable this feature. Ofc you would need root to do this.
well with custom roms and rom specific apps you shouldn't have to worry because essentially you are loading and update zip so i think you'll be OK there and they would be morons to start randomly messing with peoples phones
Hi,
nice answers =) I like you I already got some
New Questions :
- Are there already such modified ROMS ?
- If not - will there be some ?
- @mercianary why i shouldn't get you started on Microsoft? Start please
What is your Fav OS ? Are you scared of google, too ?

Bricked my phone, got it fixed. Now I'm scared to root.

Long story short: I messed up with flashing a custom rom. But gladly, I got my phone fixed. Now, I wanna root again but I'm scared of rom flashing. I just wanna do the basic benefits of rooting like deleting stock aps and other things.
So what other 'rooting benefits' can I obtain without rom flashing? Or without having the risk of bricking my phone? The rooting process is kinda simple for me since I can use the z4root app.
Help? Anyone?
reyesryanmjaube said:
Long story short: I messed up with flashing a custom rom. But gladly, I got my phone fixed. Now, I wanna root again but I'm scared of rom flashing. I just wanna do the basic benefits of rooting like deleting stock aps and other things.
So what other 'rooting benefits' can I obtain without rom flashing? Or without having the risk of bricking my phone? The rooting process is kinda simple for me since I can use the z4root app.
Help? Anyone?
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You can obtain lot of goodies, like install applications not coming from the market, i guess, edit system files, remove non needed system applications, do a lot of things, be sure when you flash a rom to have a fully charged battery, its really hard to brick it.
mmmmm ????
depending what phone you have?? Rooting is safe enough, you can "unroot" just as easy! I definitely recommend z4root If you flash another ROM be sure to do lots of research next time!!! If you experience any problems, dont forget google can be your best friend! You can count on the fact you wont be the only one having the same problem
I have LG p500. Basically, I'm now scared of anything that involves CMD. I can install non market apps like the ones from here. So yeah, after Z4root. what now?
These phones are great for bricking, because a lot of times they're easy to fix. Try out themes, custom roms, custom kernels, it's all available to you now.
Can you guide me a bit? Please
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Oh! I read this thread in the news section. If i understand it correctly it will allow me to uninstall preset apps without cmd?
Nalthos said:
I recently bought a Droid 2 Global and decided to get my feet wet with android development. To familiarize myself with the platform I wrote a simple utility for managing the bloat that came pre-installed on my phone. I thought there might be other people who would get some use out of this so I am posting it here. You will need to be rooted and have busybox installed to use this application. If you used z4root to root your phone then you should have everything you need.
The application is pretty simple. When you start it you are presented with a list of the Bloat that the application recognizes. Each item in the list has a checkbox that indicates whether it is enabled or not. To disable bloat you just uncheck the boxes next to what you don't want and then press the Apply button that appears at the bottom of the screen. You can save what you have disabled as a profile by pressing the options button and then choosing Save Profile. This is convenient because you are going to need to turn all of this bloat back on if you want to receive updates. If you have saved a profile and a new update becomes available you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Enable All and then click Apply to get your phone ready for the update. After the update installs you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Load Profile and then click Apply to turn the bloat back off.
The following applications can be toggled on or off using Bloat Manager:
Amazon MP3 /system/app/amazonmp3_1_8_14_signed_zipaligned_Signed_2010-09-09_15-23-51.apk
Blockbuster /system/app/Blockbuster.apk
City ID /system/app/CityID.apk
Friend Feed /system/app/FriendFeed.apk
Kindle /system/app/Kindle-1_0_2-OEM-SingleSign_Signed_2010-09-20_17-31-57.apk
My Net /system/app/Mynet.apk
My Verizon /system/app/MyVerizon.apk
News Widget /system/app/NewsWidget.apk
Performance Manager /system/app/PerformanceManager.apk
Skype /system/app/Skype_mobile.live.apk
Social Messaging /system/app/SocialMessaging.apk
Social Share /system/app/SocialShare.apk
VZNavigator /system/app/vnav_6.1.0.160_Droid2Global_rel_PROD_signed.apk
Visual Voice Mail /system/app/Vvm.apk
Weather Widget /system/app/WeatherWidget.apk
World Clock Widget /system/app/WorldClockWidget.apk
When you disable an application using Bloat Manager it simply renames it to .bak. When you re-enable an application it is renamed back to .apk.
Bloat Manager remounts your /system partition as writable in order to make changes to applications. I came up with this list based on what other people have had success with removing, but I have not personally turned off everything on the list. Changing things in your system partition is always dangerous so please be careful.
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Lol, rooting is so easy a baby could do it. OneClickRoot FTW.
reyesryanmjaube said:
Long story short: I messed up with flashing a custom rom. But gladly, I got my phone fixed. Now, I wanna root again but I'm scared of rom flashing.
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Thanks for sharing, yo.
Sent from my weak Wildfire, can't wait to trade in for HD2, also, not afraid to root.
So yeah aside from this feature, what else can I do without. Using cmd?
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Iinstead of asking and waiting for responses, search on the forum or read a sticky or something to expand your knowledge if you aren't comfortable with cmd you probably shouldn't be messing with root privileges. And bricked phones are dead phones, you can only recover from a brick by replacing hardware
xxmonsterx said:
Iinstead of asking and waiting for responses, search on the forum or read a sticky or something to expand your knowledge if you aren't comfortable with cmd you probably shouldn't be messing with root privileges. And bricked phones are dead phones, you can only recover from a brick by replacing hardware
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Wow. Since you put it that way.
But there's just too much. You cant blame me for being like this. I bricked my phone and they replaced the mother board (for free) and I am worried to do this again. I tried learning, I failed. And I don't like to be a wannabe developer of some sort, I just want to maximize my phone to it's potential and do what most people do.
You can say that I haven't exerted too much effort. In that case, maybe you're not the person I should me asking help from. Sorry, I was hurt.
reyesryanmjaube said:
So yeah aside from this feature, what else can I do without. Using cmd?
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CMD (command shell in windows,mac or linux) is only used when you change ROMs or unlock the bootloader (the program that loads the ROM) apps and themes have nothing to do with it, you will read ADB a lot which is basically a way to access the whole device remotely, most of this you do on the handset itself. Root is a term the same as apples jailbreak, which gives you complete access to everything (most is protected bloatware (apps) that network providers don't want you to delete, there is also a percentage of protection stopping you messing up bits that bricking your phone! Bricking doesn't mean screen wont work, force closes or not booting...it means DEAD! If see something cool that you fancy doing, research a little first and if you don't know what it is or means...DONT DO IT! Its that simple root is what you make it, it opens a lot of options but there's no rush to get to the end, the you learn doing little bits, the quicker you'll be confident flashing ROMs and maybe even developing your own customisations
reyesryanmjaube said:
Wow. Since you put it that way.
But there's just too much. You cant blame me for being like this. I bricked my phone and they replaced the mother board (for free) and I am worried to do this again. I tried learning, I failed. And I don't like to be a wannabe developer of some sort, I just want to maximize my phone to it's potential and do what most people do.
You can say that I haven't exerted too much effort. In that case, maybe you're not the person I should me asking help from. Sorry, I was hurt.
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If you want to maximize your phone's full potential you have to deal with thoses things, e.g.: joy 845 comes with the stock rom, which is slow and contains many things not needed, thus you have to flash another rom, better, faster etc...so yeah you have to be a wannabe in the end if you want to do what you want.
Check out Youtube how-to vids on rooting. Some are invaluable, especially the longer ones. Most of these guys take you step by step in detail.
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[Q] A list of bloatware that is safe to remove?

(I apologize for bad English, I am not a native speaker. I also apologize if I out this in a wrong spot, because I am still a new user.)
I got a new Sony Xperia E3 as a gift. Problem is that it´s filled with useless apps. I downloaded better replacements, but, as I found out, fully removing bloatware is pretty much impossible without root. And I know I am probably going to get killed for this, but I am too scared to root my phone. I really don´t fully understand this rooting and heck I am bad with phones in general, so I am not going to try yet. (But I WILL root if Sony does not allow upgrade to Android Lollipop. ) I am going to use bloatkill.zip technique to free some space, though, so anyone has a list of apps I can safely remove from this phone? I know there is a official list on this site, but it´s not for sony xperia.
Firtsly if you root your phone you dont lose your warenty but if you unlock your bootloader.For now (31.12.2014) you have to unlock bootloader so you can root your phone so its a little problem.Here is some of the apps to remove:
All Sony stock apps (I only left the album app because i like it.)All Google apps ecsept the Google Play.If you don't use the printer option you can remove it.On my E3 it took like 50-80 mb RAM so i deleted it.There are move but these are the biggest RAM wasters in our devices.
Tinokika said:
(I apologize for bad English, I am not a native speaker. I also apologize if I out this in a wrong spot, because I am still a new user.)
I got a new Sony Xperia E3 as a gift. Problem is that it´s filled with useless apps. I downloaded better replacements, but, as I found out, fully removing bloatware is pretty much impossible without root. And I know I am probably going to get killed for this, but I am too scared to root my phone. I really don´t fully understand this rooting and heck I am bad with phones in general, so I am not going to try yet. (But I WILL root if Sony does not allow upgrade to Android Lollipop. ) I am going to use bloatkill.zip technique to free some space, though, so anyone has a list of apps I can safely remove from this phone? I know there is a official list on this site, but it´s not for sony xperia.
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You can delete all sony apps except Walkmam, movies, and albums. You can delete the preinstalled games, and the mobile operator apps,but this only can be made just if you are root.

apk wont get installed..several (its not access)

its a pretty fresh install, ota 015,twrp/magisk --SN fine.
i could install the typical things like openvpn,titanium,etc
but apk make problems,the usual tools wincomm/total,google drive...have access.
still the files get dl'ed, and i hit install,it goes up to about 90%.. then "app not installed"(11differend apk,from all kind of sources,and quite clean)
-the system is quite fresh, all 11 programs/tools would be a firsttimer on the phone
-i even cleared via twrp the delvic/art ,just in case.
i mean,i managed to hardbrick the phone in less then 6 hours after getting it(youtube link wrong boot img,and it could only get worse), unbricked it in 30 minutes via chinatool(needed that darn driver).
of course the 2nd day of install wont get smooth...
maybe someone has a idea,or maybe i have to get chinatool again...
I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
apps2sd clean broken apps then reinstall might help
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I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
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thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
BrianKuo1853 said:
apps2sd clean broken apps then reinstall might help
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that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
NoalFey said:
thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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I think you should just clean install the ROM again, seems like a bit of issue u got here.
true,
which method would be the most simple and best to avoid the issue
-reset to factory-sys (unsure if it fixes a broken sys,instead of just deleting all userbased stuff)
-twrp clearing and the whole rom again (this method might work,if wiping everything is included)
-taking chinatool and start with h2o then back to the realdeal ota15 (thats what i did before,so iam not sure)
its not that i dont know the methods,its more like..i want your opinion what would be the best solution to avoid it.
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thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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Well first off I wouldn't mention lucky patcher again. It is a warez app and banned on XDA as are all mentions of the app. Also something to think about. App developers have been adding code that looks for lucky patcher and will not install if it is installed on the device. Some even cause the device to have random issues if it is installed. Heck I know one rom that removes it every time the user reboots their device.
As for the reviews. Dont put anything in the numbers. I can by 1000 downloads and 5 star reviews for about 50 bucks.
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
NoalFey said:
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
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I don't care what other sites do or say. Lucky is banned here as a Warez app. Bottom line.
It is the ai gle most hated app on this site. People have been flamed just for having the icon on their screen.
So I'll tell you what most others will as well. You will find no help here as long as you have it installed. Until you remove it you are on your own.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....lucky-patcher-broke-google-play-t3471231/amp/
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Lucky patcher is considered warez on xda and the discussion about it is prohibited. Yes, it does have legitimate uses, but as long as it also has illegitimate uses that cheat developers, it will remain classified as warez here.
Thanks!
speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
NoalFey said:
speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
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There is a few. The easiest way is to search before asking. You know filling the rules you agreed to when you joined. Also any app that can bypass paying for an app/service is automatically banned (depending on the app)
As for the mag. Use your head and common sense. You never listen to what a reporter says about something like this. Or really anything for that matter. They just repeat what they hear. They have no real understanding of what is going on or the risks involved. I bet that magazine didn't mention that lucky patcher has a history of privacy violations and wares being installed in the background right?
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
NoalFey said:
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
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Ad blocking has nothing to do with it. XDA has many of them all over the site. Look you will never be able to justify its use here. So we will end this here. If you need help again dont mention the app other wise you might get far worse flamed next time.

Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?

I use my rooted phone as my daily driver and I was wondering if anyone else did as well.
Never.
That's what the nth phone is for.
NEVER
Always and without any exception.
Oswald Boelcke said:
Always and without any exception.
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Me too, it makes the device way better. You have more options, customization, better performance in some cases. You can control everything, you can increase battery service life with AccA.
its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high
Guan Yu said:
its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high
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True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.
ATBG said:
True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.
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In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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Root removes it easier, I been daily driving my rooted phone for 2 months now, I use root for a lot of things. I daily drive a rooted phone to do these things:
I rooted because I don't want Google telling me what to do, how to use, what not to do on my phone. I bought my phone, so I should be able to do what I want. I rooted so I can customize, tweak, add features, ad-blocking, lots more.
Here are the apps and modules I use on my rooted phone to make it look nice and have longer battery life, better security.
I have FontManager module to change fonts.
I use Debloater module to systemlessly debloat and De-Google my phone.
I use AccA module to increase my battery lifespan with AccA.
I use Kernel Auditor to underclock my CPU for better battery life. I set the governor to powersave.
I use AFWall+ to have a Linux firewall for better security.
I use substratum to change my theme and accent color. My theme is Liv Dark.
I can add new features and functionality that wasn't there before.
I use AdAway to block ads system-wide, I also use AdAway to block malicious ads and ViPER4Android to make my speakers louder.
I use Permission Ruler to turn off app permissions when screen is off to improve battery life.
I use Termux to have the terminal on Android to make it more Linux-like.
Lots more stuff.
I use Energized module to block malware, lots more.
I use Tasker to do user-defined actions.
I use EdXposed Manager to have more control and customization.
My favorite module for EdXposed is GravityBox.
My rooted phone is my daily driver and it runs really great, fast with 8-9 hours of battery life.
ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot
Guan Yu said:
it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot
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You are right, that has happened to me when I didn't root. I unrooted one time and all the apps came back, which is why I root. I root to keep bloatware away. Even with ADB and non-root, the app is still in the system. You only removed it from the user.
I have seen videos of people saying rooting isn't worth it in 2022.
I was wondering if anyone thought the same.
Does anyone root in 2022?
I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.
if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies
Fytdyh said:
if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies
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I don't trust Google with my data and info, why would you want to share that?
xXx yYy said:
I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.
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Why don't you do it? You want Google looking at all of your data, controlling what you can and can not do?
i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888
DanielMode said:
i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888
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You can change the boot animation, I did.
on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.
DanielMode said:
on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.
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Use Boot Animations For Superusers. Then use this too:
Boot-Animations for Android 10.​It should work for 11 too.

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