Prevent Google from Deleting / Installing Programs - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi,
i don't have a android phone yet. But i'm still a little bit frightened about data security there.
I read this article:
hxxp://w ww.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_install/
I think normally you should decide yourself what to uninstall and what not.
So my question is - would it be possible to prevent Google from Accessing your phone, means prevent them from Installing / Uninstalling Applications.
Cause i hate this. My phone is my phone and they aren't allowed to play the "admin"
Regards
eagle

fear not
If you read further into this they are talking about malicious apps and it is done for the malicious app or apps only they are actually protecting your phone from being crippled and it is done systewide for those that use the market

APK's installed from SD can't be touched by Google. Only ones installed from the market can be removed. AFAIK so far they have only removed malicious apps(so far), but Googles definition of malicious is different to mine.

Hi,
thank you for your answers ! I know that they removed only a malicious app...but like mercianary already said: this time they only removed a malicious app ...
They could instead (of remote uninstall) just release a "fix" that you can download over the android market and this fix then cleans your mobile phone...
At least they can't remove stuff that you installed from SD ... this is good ...
But is there a way to modify the rom, so they won't have any access any more ?
Or can u disable this if you got root rights ?
Regards
eagle
P.S.
What else can google do with your phone ? What do they log ?

They take your soul. Piece by piece. Slowly over the years. Just like they do with every other product they give you for "free"
But that's another thread...

Sounds like humor but it's probably right :-/
The fact is ..:
I waited all time for Windows Phone 7. Thought that they would make it a good OS .. but now ... no Multitasking, ugly Menu ... it seems to me worse like the iOS (subjective opinion =) ) .
You don't have enough options/ settings and so on. It looks to me, like they try to copy Apple now, and they don't try to make it better =(
And now Android comes with tethering, Hotspot-Ability, a nice menu ... a "free" market , and so on.
Wouldn't i be afraid of Google i would choose it without hesitation.
You got any Pro Points for Win7 Phone ?
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Don't get me started on Microsoft...

It's certainly possible to mod Market to disable this feature. Ofc you would need root to do this.

well with custom roms and rom specific apps you shouldn't have to worry because essentially you are loading and update zip so i think you'll be OK there and they would be morons to start randomly messing with peoples phones

Hi,
nice answers =) I like you I already got some
New Questions :
- Are there already such modified ROMS ?
- If not - will there be some ?
- @mercianary why i shouldn't get you started on Microsoft? Start please
What is your Fav OS ? Are you scared of google, too ?

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[Q] Why there is no uninstall feature in Android?

I have about two weeks experience with Android OS and as a software developer I will be interested to know the technical details behind the Android OS.
I have already noticed this is possible to upgrade applications ported with the handset's ROM i.e. the Market app. This raised the question to me why can't I uninstall applications from the ROM without rooting or risking my handset's warranty to achieve this?
Is my expectation as a user of computers for 20 years unreasonable to think in 2010 with all software development and technological advances the uninstall feature should have been in Android OS from day one?
This is not exactly like Google is the first company in the world developed an OS to just the lack of experience with what users would want. From what I have seen so far in world of Android is that, the first thing users would want to know how to root their handset to remove packages that they have no use for.
My guess is that Google doesn't want users removing Systems apps. I'm assuming that they think that these applications are core and thus don't want you removing them. Remove the market, no more apps... or way to get it back etc.
Applications installed by you can be uninstalled, I'm just thinking it is the same as in windows, you can't uninstall the task manager etc (Bad example but meh =P)
Very simple - to prevent lay users from removing critical components.
Can you imagine the service costs involved in reparing devices that that have been damaged by people trying to remove bloatware?
They still give you the option to restore.
OK DISREGUARD THIS AS I MISSED THE PART ABOUT NEEDING TO ROOT!
They can be removed but its not recommended to do so without know EXACTLY what your removing and weather is vital to your phones operating system.
BUT in order to do so your phone needs root access, and root explorer installed. There are several forums on just about all android support sites that explain how to root, install the manager, and which apps/files NOT to remove.
J_HaX said:
They can be removed but its not recommended to do so without know EXACTLY what your removing and weather is vital to your phones operating system.
BUT in order to do so your phone needs root access, and root explorer installed. There are several forums on just about all android support sites that explain how to root, install the manager, and which apps/files NOT to remove.
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Ye u can remove almost every stock app but this may affect the stability of your phone, modifying your phone always comes with the option restoring it back to default. If something goes wrong with moding (something really hard and extraordinary rare ) u can restore it. Browsing through Xda might solve many questions, we all didn't wanted stock rom (not because it was bad, because we can have s omething better. This community has VERY VERY good developers.
Androids own!!!
One thing I still don't get is...
How can Google upgrade Market app without the su privilage but the rest of the world has to root their phones to remove bloatware such as 'amazon mp3'?
@ftgg99: How much bloatware in Windows cost Microsoft or PC manufacturers? None in fact they get paid to include them with your hardware. However, I see an issue with mobile devices. You have already paid for the ROM storage, the bigger ROM size is the more expensive your handset would be, then the manufacturer uses your already paid ROM to make even more money by installing bloatware. I would be a fool to think manufacturers would pass on a percentage of the bloatware earnings by reducing the cost of their products to the consumers in this model.
The way I see it, the burden has been put on the communities such as xda. Users wouldn't ask the manufacturers how to root their handsets and this is left to the dedicated individuals to overcome the mess compnies normally leave us with. I'm not going to say the mess is a cost saving measure by companies.
The thing is that there are a lot more people buy and use phones than computers. After someone buys a smart phone with intention to use for calls, text, web and to use some apps, they realize the possibilities of the smart phone, they start digging in to the files, therefore Google blocked the root folder from modifying, otherwise Google would have to repair warrantied phones that didn't have to end up there just because people didn't know or care what they did. But if you got passed ROOTING, you must know what you are doing and from this point you can modify files and apps, but now ROOTING becomes too easy.
Basically just because too many juveniles got their hands on the equipment.
CSharpHeaven said:
One thing I still don't get is...
How can Google upgrade Market app without the su privilage but the rest of the world has to root their phones to remove bloatware such as 'amazon mp3'?
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I'm also very interested to read the answer for this one!
CSharpHeaven said:
One thing I still don't get is...
How can Google upgrade Market app without the su privilage but the rest of the world has to root their phones to remove bloatware such as 'amazon mp3'?
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RAMMANN said:
I'm also very interested to read the answer for this one!
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The answer, from my point of view, is quite simple: they just upgrade the application on /data/app ON TOP of the /system/app default Market version. So, you can always go back to your "default" version just by "uninstalling updates".
Summary: they do not upgrade the Market form ROM, just install the new version on top.
CSharpHeaven said:
I have about two weeks experience with Android OS and as a software developer I will be interested to know the technical details behind the Android OS.
I have already noticed this is possible to upgrade applications ported with the handset's ROM i.e. the Market app. This raised the question to me why can't I uninstall applications from the ROM without rooting or risking my handset's warranty to achieve this?
Is my expectation as a user of computers for 20 years unreasonable to think in 2010 with all software development and technological advances the uninstall feature should have been in Android OS from day one?
This is not exactly like Google is the first company in the world developed an OS to just the lack of experience with what users would want. From what I have seen so far in world of Android is that, the first thing users would want to know how to root their handset to remove packages that they have no use for.
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Have you tried to work with iPhone(don't know about iPhone 4)? They build fortress around their system and even the apps you install cannot be uninstalled until you gailbrake it and use 3rd party installer to uninstall. And not talking about the "MONOPLY" they run with AT&T.

What to block in XPRIVACY & apps/modules like it ..??

HI everyone ..
Nice to join you all , ..
I have come to suffer a lot in controlling some apps permissions using the awesome XPRIVACY. .
So I thought of starting this post so we can help each other out ..
_ Prior to XPRIVACY 3.6.5 I was able to control.almost anything .. now for example I just can't control permissions for some apps .. ie; Mobogenie.com
It still reads my media even though I got them blocked ..
Still is able to read my location ..
So I started this thread so we all share " out of experience " how to get the best out of XPRIVACY ..
P.s ..
I've searched for similar Posts & found nothing .. I hope that I hadn't over looked similar Posts.
Ultimous said:
HI everyone ..
Nice to join you all , ..
I have come to suffer a lot in controlling some apps permissions using the awesome XPRIVACY. .
So I thought of starting this post so we can help each other out ..
_ Prior to XPRIVACY 3.6.5 I was able to control.almost anything .. now for example I just can't control permissions for some apps .. ie; Mobogenie.com
It still reads my media even though I got them blocked ..
Still is able to read my location ..
So I started this thread so we all share " out of experience " how to get the best out of XPRIVACY ..
P.s ..
I've searched for similar Posts & found nothing .. I hope that I hadn't over looked similar Posts.
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We already have an official thread for XPrivacy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacy-ultimate-android-privacy-app-t2320783
All issues should be reported on Github: https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
Thanks
Done , &Thank you ,Primokorn
I never get the part why people installing apps they don't trust and try to block stuff with external apps. If you're unsure just test it on emulators like the SDK integrated emulator, bluebox or others and see what the app does.
And no, XPrivacy can't block all stuff. So I highly recommend just no install apps if you're unsure or test it as mentioned in a emulator. As much as I love XPrivacy but it's much over hyped and overrated, some brain and you not need this app and also not if you rom does already supports the Privacy Guard stuff (mostly on CM based ROMS).
.... and I'll never understand why some people Wana clone themselves into people & condemn anything that is not their own preference ...
Xprivacy is a breakthrough .. and it is android as far as I am concerned until someone brings to life a ROM that respects people's right to privacy .. feel free to differ ,CHEF-KOCH , but please do not impose .. thank you
CHEF-KOCH said:
I never get the part why people installing apps they don't trust and try to block stuff with external apps. If you're unsure just test it on emulators like the SDK integrated emulator, bluebox or others and see what the app does.
And no, XPrivacy can't block all stuff. So I highly recommend just no install apps if you're unsure or test it as mentioned in a emulator. As much as I love XPrivacy but it's much over hyped and overrated, some brain and you not need this app and also not if you rom does already supports the Privacy Guard stuff (mostly on CM based ROMS).
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Sometimes you don't have a choice. May be all your friends are using a particular messaging service, or perhaps the app is critical or at least too useful for your job to give up.
Just don't let other people controlling you - you always have a choice. If all people saying jump from a bridge, will you do it too?
Just tell your friends you take care of your privacy data and ask them to install an similar and possible more secure alternative. If you really need services which doesn't respect your privacy, tell us how a tool like XPrivacy can block all this? If you block all connections you will never be able to use there services. And some stuff can't be faked since this will break the functions. So I see no argument at all.
Who said anything about " breaking connection " .. ?!! mind you that we all know about this new thing called " internet" & we do use it .. " who would've thought ..!!! " & breaking connection means that no creature called "NET" will ever exist on our devices
And where did you find us " users of X privacy & auther /developer " saying that Xprivacy protects everything against everything ..
There seems to be some communication issues here ..
Tell you what ,CHEF-KOCH, .. why don't you write/do something that eventually could make us throw XPRIVACY into the abyss of of forgotten ..
I am sure you are capable of achieving this task for me & my friends and for the rest of the world that is really hungry for your wisdom
Xprivacy is about the main reason I still use my android device with internet.
I'm not as paranoid at I should be but this is how I use x privacy.
It's around 90% successful to start out.(which means 90% I don't just boot loop from the start)
Shave head to avoid pulling hair out
Remove Sim card try to find someplace WiFi inaccessible.
Fresh install of a ROM with as many apks I don't use as possible.
(Apks are removed from the zip file before I flash the ROM)
Install xposed (I never make it a system app by putting it in the zip because that can cause update issues)
Install x privacy, set expert mode on, set all the expert features on, randomize everything are boot.
Reboot into recovery, backup everything
Reboot into device
start x privacy.
Edit template to block every last little thing. except inet.
Apply template to everything except android system, Phone, and system ui. (You can turn those ones off before you apply template).
Reboot device and hope for the best.
If it boots, let it settle and watch for errors.
After a while (your choice on how long) boot into recovery and do another full backup.
Start x privacy edit template to block everything
Manually change 1/4 of system apps to block inet.
Reboot and check for errors, if good do a recovery back up,
If bad restore your backup and change less "inet" restrictions.
repeat until everything is blocked for Inet you can block.
(This can) take hours.
Export your settings from time to time.
Next systematically block the various restrictions on phone, android system and system ui until they are tight as you can make them.
Install newest AFwall + and use while list mode to block everything (after setting it up in xprivacy of course)
Install network log to check network.
Use the "usage data" to give the minimum permissions required to use the system apps you need to use.
(Back up in recovery and export settings often as there is nothing worse than boot looping your device after an hours of work)
All new installed apps should be completely restricted at install., and you have to remove the restrictions one at a time to get them working with minimal access
Yes I do this every time I install a new rom.
Yes I would love to hear of a better way
No I can't just import all the settings from a different ROM
Boot loops are just too hard to track down with a large import
I have found some apps have no restrictions for a few seconds right after install. So I never install anything with internet connected and I always wipe the apps data and cache after I have it set up in x privacy and before I use the internet.
One day I will build x privacy from source so it can block the android system identification section. That is disabled by default now. with all the apps that factory ROMs and even aosp ROMs dump into uid 1000 it's just to open for me to love.
That was a pretty good post @nutpants, .. Thank you

BLU STUDIO X5 (S390U) Stock ROM infected.

Hello guys, as you probably see I'm new at this forums, there's only one reason I joined and is because I own the BLU STUDIO X5 (S390U) since while ago.
I noticed that this phone has built-in somewhat thing of malware on the system APKs of it. What do I mean? Don't matter how many times you do a clean, use anti-malware apps, hard-reset, even flashing to a new stock ROM or a CROM made from the original one: The problem is going to persist.
So... Tell us, which would be the solution? Well I was analysing all the possibilities, even evolving a CROM of it, however this infection it seems to be part of other APKs components, as it is visible through Anti-MalwareBytes, that Settings.APK is corrupted with it.
The solution it seems to be easy but it could be complex, even knowing that other APKs could be infected but are not listed on the scanns: Erasing Settings.APK and try to replace it with a non-infected one, but this is complex as I said.
Before I continue I need to explain what this infection does: After you use the smartphone for first time (counting resets, flashes, etc.) the smartphone is just good, even if your not using internet.
After sometime you will notice some new apps installed on your smartphone, what this infection does is to install them under what it could be called a "Silence mode", PlayStore is not needed to download such apps, either a Web Browser.
But, hey, this doesn't sound bad as it just sounds annoying lad... Aye, this sounds as if the problem is only something redundantly annoying, but not is only that, this malware is found as a Hijack and doesn't sound bad too, however, if someone with enough knowledge knows how to manage a Hijack it can even steal info from your smartphone.
But probably you're thinking, well you can fix it not allowing Unknown Sources APKs to install on it, well...
This is what it takes me to the second point of it: This malware changes the settings of your smartphone whatever the times it wants by itself, don't matter which app you use to not allow this change by itself, it is going to do it anyway.
But why? It seems that the infection has Root Access, what this mean is that it has a higher level access (is running under an Administrator mode).
And we're back again to the solution, you'll think: Maybe if I root it and replace the Settings.APK is going to be fixed, well is not that easy, apart of wasting your time, the smartphone can be even more vulnerable and unstable.
The best solution that is going to work and that's why I posted this here:
To fix this the Stock ROM must be re-built from zero. I'd do this on my own, the problem is that I'm not an advanced user, and I still learning programming and coding at my degree, every help with this would be flawlessly.

[Doogee Shoot 1 ] App Android "Chromes". what's it? [TRIADA Malware]

Dear friends,
i am struggling with a strange APP named "Chromes". It seems to be undocumented (i googled a lot).
The only thing i know is that IT INSTALLS ALONE without any visibile message. After a Factory reset i found it (AGAIN) in the phone.
I couldn't SEEK what / when / Who installs it in my phone.
It gains telephone and archive rights without any ask to me.
I also know that my doogee phone suffers of a vulnerability (never closed) by DOOGEE and i don't know if it'd be related with it.
No clue.
Does anyone have had the same experience? Does anyone have EVER seen it?
Let me know please.
Best Regards.
EDIT: ****warning: I remember to everyone that ROOTING/HACKING/INSTALLING a different ROM in your phone may void the warranty AND can potentially BRICK your phone . Do it ONLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING . I warned you.*****
edit 13/11/2017 *LIST OF REPORTED DEVICE AFFECTED WITH CHROMES (Malware) app *:
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Doogee Shoot 1
Gretel A9
UHANS A101
NOMU S10
Leagoo M8
leagoo M8 pro
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Report if you have it. Thank you.
i just found it on my phone too and started googling it.. and yours seem to be the only instance ive found so far.. i dont know what it does or where it comes from.. i can close it from the task manager but itll start itself again 3 processes that itself have about 2-3 services.. mostly ChromesService DaemonService and ChromesService2 the main proces seems to be signed from com.appclone.lyhj the second one doesnt have the daemonService and is signed from com.android.qnsettings and the third one had com.yunshi.market listed. again i dont know there they come from or whats their purpose.. and if they have anything to do with the ad popups i get since a few days now that dont seem to be app related since its the same popups for most apps .. apps that dont have those popups natively like whatsapp or facebook. i have since uninstalled pretty much anything and tried some antivirus but i guess its gonna be rooted and gets a custom rom. it is also a china cell called nomu s20 . after googling a bit it seems there are a lot security problems with my device.
edit: ive found something on this link i cant post because i am not a trusted user yet
also after running kaspersky antivirus it did indeed find something (as opposed to the comodo antivirus that kept silent)
it found Trojan.androidOS.Boogr.gsh as the chromesBase.apk and another one i just deleted without writing the name. it seems though this might be related to the Triada-Virus/trojan .. soo.. yeah it might be a good idea to save your stuff and not only try with a factory reset but completely reinstall the whole rom.
edit2: just deinstalling them hasnt solved anything .. the problem sits way deeper meaning it is definitely related to the triada virus. it just reinstalls the software again without anything showing.
edit3: found it.. it is indeed the triada virus on my phone ..
I have been dealing with that damned "Chromes" app for two or three weeks now (BTW, they appear two of them with the same icon and logo.)
MalwareBytes detects it as malware (Avast sometimes does, sometimes does'nt)
I have trie , for sure , uninstalling (completely unuseful) stopping all the apps I can (seems to have an effect in the reinstalling time ), and also keeping them installed but removing the Phone, Storage and SMS permissions, which, surprisingly, remain removed (until you uninstall the app)
I dealed in the past with the virus app on the Shoot 1 firmware, which turnaround solution (disabling the fake app) worked OK for me. But recently there have not been any fw update, so this time is not the firmware the responsible.
Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.
¡Cheers!
Hi guys!
I'm having the same problem as you two. I can't believe that Doogee has screwed up on this again... (I also have the shoot 1 [nice screen ]) I'm surprised that, as you said, I've not found anything on the internet about this*. In addition, the application consumes a large amount of mobile data!
I hope there is an update soon, and that the problem is solved
Thank you all for your comments! Greetings from Spain!!
*Well, here they have the same problem
https ://android.stackexchange.com/questions/185520/how-to-get-rid-of-a-malware-app-chromes
Don't wait too much from Doogee. In fact don't wait nothing at all. They didn't solved yet the firmware virus that came with the first OTA update. We're alone...
And your GPS signal how is it going? In my case it does not get fixed to any satellite. Has someone managed to root it successfully? The truth is that I do not understand much about this, that's why I'm a bit afraid to do it.
I found this in a spanish forum, look at the last post (#19). (I think you have to translate it )
http: //ww w.htcmania. com/showthread.php?t=1291106
Summing up a bit, he says that Doogee sells mobiles with malware in the system. The fact is that they do it conscientiously. And then put a "solution", which is to install a firewall, so that you can control the internet connection of the applications.
Thanks again!
Some updates...
let me give you some updates :
1) the Shoot 1 phone is not easy to root with standard tools (kingroot & others: i tried a lot of them);
1) i successfully installed twrp with the FLASHTOOL and a specific recovery image TWRP + SU (if needed i can help about it);
2) I backupped everything (included malware of course) just to be sure i could go back in case of brick;
*** 3) I downloaded and installed the FANTASTIC lineage OS without any STUPID bloatware. ***
My phone is secure and fast NOW.
i warmly RECOMMEND all of you to root and update to lineage OS 7.1.2 (ver 14). Thankx to the lineage team! **they deserve a donation!!****
* about Shoot1 GPS *
i still didn't test it with the new LINEAGE and i will update you
Before i discovered the malware inside the GPS was not fixing correctly and in general not working like my previous LG or HTC
I was using an external BLUETOOTH antenna by using a middleware driver named Bluetooth GPS. Once you configured the driveer it works like a charm with tomtom and all GPS software ( i tested a lot). The external GPS solution lets the phone cold and free to charge during long gps travel session.
I will test anyway with the internal GPS again with the new LINEAGE ROM.
For any test or info write here and send me a PV message.
UPDATE: the lineage team is releasing the version 15 (development) with OREO. Anyway i will not install it soon. I am SOOOO SOLID now!
jmam said:
Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.
¡Cheers!
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Unfortunately you can't get rid of it. No one knows if there is another fake app or background service that loads it again. It seems to appear (after a factory reset) some days later (i.e. just the time to download from whoknowswhere).
The fact is that I CAN'T TRUST ANYMORE the Doogee and the entire ROM so i warmly suggest you to ROOT (via TWRP + SU) , backup all, and install a LINEAGE fresh n° 14 release for shoot 1.
i did it and it worked like a charm.
Chromes
I have phone that is not rooted or changed firmware. Antivirus said that i have chomes and facebook apps that are not safe, but i do not have facebook installed. I tried factory reseting the phone twice, but it still comes back....
Have got the same "Chromes" problem on Gretel A9 mobile. Not rooted, only used Google Playstore for few apps. So frustrated and so little information on how to solve it for a non techie like me. Tried to contact Gretel who never reply. Still under an AliExpress warranty but not sure if malware stuff is covered. Needrom have the official stock rom for the A9. Do I have to root the phone to reinstall a clean stock rom? Can anyone point me to instructions on how to replace the stock rom? Thanks for any help.
I am really sorry to say that. The SUPPORT from some of these Chinese Supplier is really poor. I can't help you with your GRETEL . Please search on this XDA forum is anyone can do .
Root it and install a reliable distro. Be careful: when you root your phone you loose your WARRANTY and (sometime) some functions of your phone is not available or not available at 100%.
Custom ROMs should be considered ALWAYS as "bleeding" and "in development".
As i said i will never buy anymore low cost China phones DUE to this lack of support and this (unbelievable) disattention to release malwared firmware.
Deki-bg said:
I have phone that is not rooted or changed firmware. Antivirus said that i have chomes and facebook apps that are not safe, but i do not have facebook installed. I tried factory reseting the phone twice, but it still comes back....
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I struggled a lot to remove it with normal antivirus and antimalware.
It seems to BE NOT POSSIBLE without a rooted phone.
In my phone there were 2 problems:
1) the malware CHROMES
2) the injected system library (dunno what it does).
So , once i removed the CHROMES %$£"%$£% app....i could not know if it was related (or somehow connected) with the malware injected system library. So i couldn't trust anymore that factory o.s. and i replaced it with LINEAGE (atm something not working 100% like GPS) but at least it's clean and works.
I hope LINEAGE could support more chinaphones to get rid of the buggy malwared firmware from Doogee, Gretel and others Chinamakers
UHANS A101 affected as well!
CHROMES and
fake FACEBOOK app
garibald75 said:
I am really sorry to say that. The SUPPORT from some of these Chinese Supplier is really poor. I can't help you with your GRETEL . Please search on this XDA forum is anyone can do .
Root it and install a reliable distro. Be careful: when you root your phone you loose your WARRANTY and (sometime) some functions of your phone is not available or not available at 100%.
Custom ROMs should be considered ALWAYS as "bleeding" and "in development".
As i said i will never buy anymore low cost China phones DUE to this lack of support and this (unbelievable) disattention to release malwared firmware.
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Thanks for the reply.
Do warranties usually cover an infected Rom (I'd need to send it to a Poland service centre)
Is it hard to flash a new clean stock rom over an infected stock rom?
owlsman said:
Thanks for the reply.
Do warranties usually cover an infected Rom (I'd need to send it to a Poland service centre)
Is it hard to flash a new clean stock rom over an infected stock rom?
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If you can't ROOT it, try to open RMA or open a ticket, try (at least). I hope we can MOUNT CASE and create a bit of hype around this CRAZY THINGS .
In my case it doesn worth. The DOOGEE has a really poor website and we yellew there a lot about this malware.
No way to return. IT doesn't worth.
However tell them and try to have it swapped.
Hey guys, I just got the apk. If a dev can make it "peaceful", I will really appreciate that. Just rename the chromes(blablabla).txt to chromes(blablabla).apk
jimmy1235 said:
Hey guys, I just got the apk. If a dev can make it "peaceful", I will really appreciate that. Just rename the chromes(blablabla).txt to chromes(blablabla).apk
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WARNING for all the users: THIS APK IS FOR DEVELOPERS. This apk CONTAINS a malware. it's *ONLY* FOR RESEARCH purposes. so Don't try to install it!!
the really interesting THING would be to know if it RECALLS some system service or other RESIDENT modules to complete the cleaning and to allow US to use the original firmware again.
Let's see if anyone can help us.
Well... This is getting REALLY deeply...
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/triada-trojan/11481/
i tested KAV and other antivirus and malware removal tools.
KAV was not able to remove and to detect it.
the 1st (maybe not the only one) that warned me has been DR WEB ANTIVIRUS and it (also) couldn't remove it without rooting.
It's impossibile, though, to know WHAT / WHICH process is linked in memory or injected in the original ROM since the Chinese CRAPPYPHONES are full of bloatware and "weirdware" .
The trust is ZERO for them ATM.

apk wont get installed..several (its not access)

its a pretty fresh install, ota 015,twrp/magisk --SN fine.
i could install the typical things like openvpn,titanium,etc
but apk make problems,the usual tools wincomm/total,google drive...have access.
still the files get dl'ed, and i hit install,it goes up to about 90%.. then "app not installed"(11differend apk,from all kind of sources,and quite clean)
-the system is quite fresh, all 11 programs/tools would be a firsttimer on the phone
-i even cleared via twrp the delvic/art ,just in case.
i mean,i managed to hardbrick the phone in less then 6 hours after getting it(youtube link wrong boot img,and it could only get worse), unbricked it in 30 minutes via chinatool(needed that darn driver).
of course the 2nd day of install wont get smooth...
maybe someone has a idea,or maybe i have to get chinatool again...
I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
apps2sd clean broken apps then reinstall might help
nujackk said:
I use Fx file explorer with root plugin them just install apk with root installer usually gets part that problem.
But would also check make sure you don't already have newer version of apk installed.
Other reason for this problem not having necessary dependencies installed like Google framework etc.
If root installer doesn't get desired results you will med to provide more detailed info. ( ie what apk, etc) and someone might be able to provide assistance.
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thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
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that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
NoalFey said:
thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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I think you should just clean install the ROM again, seems like a bit of issue u got here.
true,
which method would be the most simple and best to avoid the issue
-reset to factory-sys (unsure if it fixes a broken sys,instead of just deleting all userbased stuff)
-twrp clearing and the whole rom again (this method might work,if wiping everything is included)
-taking chinatool and start with h2o then back to the realdeal ota15 (thats what i did before,so iam not sure)
its not that i dont know the methods,its more like..i want your opinion what would be the best solution to avoid it.
NoalFey said:
thanks, fx f.e. iam going to try it, about the already installed,..no,its a fresh system,and most of the things arnt on it.
the apps are from tools ,system mangement ,etc up to mods,hacks, about 11 things from 8 differend kind of things, not downloaded from shaddy sides,only larger sides,with hundreds of reviews
that worked for some things,for others i found a workaround,i like that tool,but this ads are annoying, luckypatcher couldnt remove them.
about the apk's, some are clearly not to speak of here,others are just systemmanagement,like a most simple app to change and block speaker,i cant stand,and never accept the speakerfunction,if i phone then at my ear,or via bluetooth, and to avoid any probs ,duo missclicking and loadspeak in a area where you should not,i block them by force. finding such a app on playstore....good luck
howerver all files are clean,that much i know,even kaspersky yells if a dirty apk gets downloaded,all other..i can only base on reviews etc, (they can be fake,but not 100+)
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Well first off I wouldn't mention lucky patcher again. It is a warez app and banned on XDA as are all mentions of the app. Also something to think about. App developers have been adding code that looks for lucky patcher and will not install if it is installed on the device. Some even cause the device to have random issues if it is installed. Heck I know one rom that removes it every time the user reboots their device.
As for the reviews. Dont put anything in the numbers. I can by 1000 downloads and 5 star reviews for about 50 bucks.
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
NoalFey said:
thanks for the reply
well the tool itself cant be made as "warez" since some of its functions are quite handy,like removing adds.
(whats completly legal,atleast in the EU)
about devs who enter code to sneakout other apps..no worries,
since you are in the op6 board,i assume you have one, go under apps,then tap the left border,and pull towards right,there is a secret stash,add all the fancy stuff you wanne hide there,and even google ,pokemon,fortnite run if the stuff is hidden there (of course magisk has to be set right too)
about the reviews true,but if some of those are quite names,that are known in android,linux or Minecraft business,i kinda trust them,and if that review isnt 1 day old,its fine,especially with comments like"7 weeks now,and it still works well,no flaws no hickups.." (example) makes me believe that this apps are worth the 0 bucks paid for.
iam not going to mention warez,but lucky is none of those,especially since several german speaking sides have mentioned it and praised it aswell (the big ones,with printed paper stuff),so i assume, eu rights,should fit in here aswell, (not that iam part of the EU,but swiss)
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I don't care what other sites do or say. Lucky is banned here as a Warez app. Bottom line.
It is the ai gle most hated app on this site. People have been flamed just for having the icon on their screen.
So I'll tell you what most others will as well. You will find no help here as long as you have it installed. Until you remove it you are on your own.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....lucky-patcher-broke-google-play-t3471231/amp/
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Lucky patcher is considered warez on xda and the discussion about it is prohibited. Yes, it does have legitimate uses, but as long as it also has illegitimate uses that cheat developers, it will remain classified as warez here.
Thanks!
speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
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speak about hornets nest,
well thanks for the clearification,there was clearly no ill intent or drama in mind.
but thats the confusion part, one of the most readed pc print magazins in the eu has on their webside guides about how to root,what rooted apps you should have,and has the mentioned one also,how could a normal person think of it as the whorst app arround.
are there more names not to mention? kinda like a list of "dont talk about,it just makes drama"
thanks again for clearing that up
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There is a few. The easiest way is to search before asking. You know filling the rules you agreed to when you joined. Also any app that can bypass paying for an app/service is automatically banned (depending on the app)
As for the mag. Use your head and common sense. You never listen to what a reporter says about something like this. Or really anything for that matter. They just repeat what they hear. They have no real understanding of what is going on or the risks involved. I bet that magazine didn't mention that lucky patcher has a history of privacy violations and wares being installed in the background right?
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
NoalFey said:
hmm i think that wrighter knew exactly what he was going for,especially the anti-googlead part,well many europeans hate adds,and are able todo any and everything to get rid of them ,and in many nations are adblocker-blocker forbidden by law,means companies cant do a thing if you block adds and such a tool is fun from that side,noone mentions that is has other functions,until here mentioned,well the problem with such is, if people know tool X can block adds,they use it 100% for that,and dont touch other parts,until someone mention more functions,then it gets interesting..well until you learn the disappointment that the said functions are just for games.
why the hack would i play games on a phone? i have a tr1950 with fancy parts,for my gaminghabbits,that smartphone is a tool,not a nds or such.. i get the nonlegal part,but the sense of it is beyond me, whoever needs that shall buy a pc, *imo*
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Ad blocking has nothing to do with it. XDA has many of them all over the site. Look you will never be able to justify its use here. So we will end this here. If you need help again dont mention the app other wise you might get far worse flamed next time.

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