Is any one having static come out of their shield tablet? I can really hear it whenever I'm using it on a table. Its reflecting nicely. The geforce forums 404 me immediately when I post about the problem. I don't know how big an issue this is, but considering the cracking issue and now this, I'm just about fed up with it. Ive only ever used the stock charger and its ota updated to L. Stock everything. I'm going to call them and see how long I'm going to be without my tablet now.
Please let me know how that goes. I have the same issue with mine, no cracking in the body but I do have the audio issue. Doesn't bother me that much but its noticeable
Its either coil noise or a fan... Does the shield have a fan onboard? Its only noticable when its very quite and im holding it on a table. I called nvidia, they want me to send them a video of it. Its kind of hard to do that, considering its relatively low. Im still afraid that this tablet is going to crack. The battery is pretty bad as well. Right now, i have to void warrenty for root privlages too. Nexus 9 looks better, cept no external storage. Ugh.
Oh this bad boy is going back. I can hear it now over the on board fans of my laptop.
I notice this too out off the same speaker usually when I'm in Chrome. Now there is no sound coming of this speaker, though I still hear the faint static though. Is there a setting somewhere I may have inadvertently hit to turn the speaker off?
Hi,
I'm worried about a noise that I hear from the center of the tablet. Precisely, with my ear close to the "S" of the inscription "SHIELD" on the back of the tablet.
It is like the noise of a hard disk, but certainly, the tablet does not have one.
My shield is new (4 days) and works very well, no bugs and antutu bench over 55000 points...only this strange (for me) noise.
I've the last hotfix 2.2.1 with android 5.0.1
My question is: does someone have the same noise?
Thanks in advance and regards.
I have the same noises too (LTE Version). For me they come out of the front side speakers and they only appear if I use an App that needs lots of performance (like Nvidia Dabbler). Those noises exist since the first use (my shield is only 4 days old too!!! ). I read about them and now I know they aren´t made by a fan (like some people think), they are made by some eletronic stuff (tansistors etc.).
But you don´t have to woory about it. But there is nothing that cuts of those noises (in the speakers).
It's just whine from the components, nothing to worry about. As previously mentioned, it seems to go away after awhile.
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it seems to go away after awhile.
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Oh this is something I didn't know. That's nice but for me those noises didn't matter. Some people became really angry about that (in the feedback in the german amazon site).
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Oh this is something I didn't know. That's nice but for me those noises didn't matter. Some people became really angry about that (in the feedback in the german amazon site).
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Yea I was too but either it went away within a month or so, or I just became accustomed to it. It's kind of like coil whine on a GPU. Annoying at first but then you end up not even realizing it's there.
" This 'whine' or 'squeal' is the sound of these things ( inductors, coils or chokes ) physically vibrating, and it is a sign that they are poorly insulated. However this does not mean they have a shorter lifespan than a coil that does not whine and you really shouldn't lose sleep over it.
Why do they only whine when the PC is under load? What you're hearing is an effect of the PWM frequency, and as you pull more current through the inductor it induces a greater magnetic field in itself and in turn vibrating more aggressively.
Will it go away? Well, Possibly. My 8800GT squealed like a piglet in a housefire for months, and one day the noise disappeared completely. Either some characteristics of the circuit had changed or the windings in the coil had shifted.
Can you stop it? As most people know, you can stop inductors whining by chucking hot glue at them, putting high voltage putty around them, or soaking them in resin and waiting for them to set. Most (apart from PSU) inductors in PCs are covered anyway, so you can't properly silence them.
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So I got the Moto Z for my birthday, September 19th, and today February 6th I have to consider the phone as dead, as there's too many problems with it..
First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
It was problem free for the most part, up until after Christmas, when I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked.
A single hairline crack from edge to edge.
I've noticed the glass lifting off the frame on the right side, and so I believe the battery is swelling up and this caused the crack.
There's no pixel damage, but after this all kinds of problems have been surfacing, the screen won't always turn on when someone is calling.
The bottom proximity sensor won't always wake the screen any more.
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
Battery life was never even half decent, if I didn't charge it to and from work I couldn't make it last 12 hours.
Now it's even worse obviously.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge, like no "shutting down" notification, screen just goes black.
Connecting the charger it'll go from 0% to 15% in seconds, or take 20 minutes to even boot again.
The ringtone/earpiece speaker has cracked, and is completely unusable now, at the very lowest volume there's a marked crackling noise, turning it up you can't hear what people say on youtube or when making calls.
The magnetic compass has never worked right, it'll make large jumps when turned south, by about 20 degrees west or east.
Makes playing Pokémon Go quite difficult as it'll jump uncontrollably around the south mark.
Occasionally the map will just keep rotating until you make the calibration movements 2-3 times.
It'll drop 4G connectivity and the reception is about half as many bars as my Moto X 2014.
The frame was bent when I climbed up a attic ladder, so the aluminium quality is rubbish. (A few weeks after the self-cracking incident)
I tried contacing Lenovo, but they won't take the battery for warranty as the glass is cracked, the fact that I tried telling them the crack is because of the battery was left on deaf ears.
My wife's HTC One M7 had the same thing happen after 11 months and they replaced the entire phone no questions asked.
Lenovo didn't keep the hardware designers, and is simply trying to churn out a few Lenovo phones with the Moto name before the brand name is truly dead.
In conclusion; Motorola is dead. Don't buy this phone.
You maybe got a bad one, it can happens. I also have the Moto Z and I use it everyday with my moto 360, I bought both like 3 month ago. Also I'm on Nougat and I don't have any issue that you describe, the only thing I also notice is the phone auto shutdown but below 5% which I find normal to save the battery, other phones maybe shutdown at 1% but in fact there still a couple of % more left.
Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Same here. I've had it since November and no problems at all.
Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
https://youtu.be/kZOfYo4JDIw
All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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The battery expanding, cracking the screen, and causing the phone to shutdown randomly at or below 10% should be replaced as a defect. He has a good point with that part. But unfortunately in the warranty it specifically states everything to do with the battery is not covered under warranty. Pretty sneaky way of Lenovo to basically *not* warranty this phone because the battery is locked in and part of the whole construction.
I have to agree, if you haven't bought one yet, don't do it. I do like this phone for its features and mods, but it is designed to be completely disposable. Prices of phones with locked in batteries really should be half the price of what they are.
Dude you need a Z force
If I couldn't have a Force and camera wasn't a huge issue, I'd get a Play. I see no point getting a Z if you can get either the Force or Play unless you just want a really skinny phone.
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Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
https://youtu.be/kZOfYo4JDIw
All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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I'm still using my Moto X (2014) and similarly consider the Moto Z (dual SIM preferably) as my only attractive upgrade.
I empathize with the poor experience you've suffered with it, especially as it was a birthday gift. However, I suspect that your experience is the exception and that you received a dud. It happens. And although Motorola's warranty and customer service seem very poor, perhaps you might consider repurchasing when prices drop after the new model is released. I am currently researching root and other support options for the dual SIM variant before "pulling the trigger" (on eBay)...
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I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked
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You bent the frame, you either leaned on something, or if your pants were too tight, just compressed it too much. It's crap luck, but it's not motorola's fault, nor is it a warranty claim.
Your battery would only expand enough to crack a screen if it were very highly overheated. like, shorting out overheated, in the 80-90 degree range, basically hot enough that you would have had second and third degree burns in your pocket (battery expansion occurs at about 90 degrees on average in lithium cells, there are many, many, many studies on this subject, especially since Samsung last year)
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
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Stop carrying your phone in a pocket filled with change?! or something? I've had my moto Z the better part of a year, and my fingerprint sensor is spotless, I can't even imagine how you scratched yours.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge
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Do you know how lithium batteries work? 10% across 6 cells mean each cell has less than 2% battery.... at less than 1% you do irreparable damage to a cell, it will never take a full charge again if you drain it completely. So unfortunately, 10% is actually a completely reasonable number to shut down at.
Speaker breaking? No idea how you accomplished that, usually take a pretty solid impact or water damage to blow a phone speaker to the point of cracking even at the lowest volumes.
Reception wise, I'll admit mine shows less "bars" but remains connected regardless. It's less about not having signal, and more, appearing to have less.
I will agree, the compass isn't the greatest, it's easily calibrated though (using google maps)
Sound like you bent your phone, and if you hadn't, you'd have a warranty claim on the speaker, and "possibly" the battery. But since you broke your screen, you're screwed. You SHOULD be able to send it in for repair and pay them to fix it/replace it, usually for much less than the cost of replacing it.
Sorry about your luck mate.
I decided to follow up on this review with my one year review of the phone.
So far I have none of the problems you have listed, and I'm very careless with my tech (Read: Broken every single screen on every phone I have ever owned)
The only complaint I have is that the finger print sensor gets dirty easily, though I assume that's more likely a mix of the finish on it and my fingers getting oily.
Battery life is meh, but I have the battery mod so no problems yet (2-3 days usually with my usage, as opposed to the Xperia X being 4-5)
I do have one problem with your review, apart from many of the problems seeming self inflicted, this one particularly stands out.
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First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
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This sounds like a manufacturer defect.
That should've been the moment you asked for a return or warranty repair.
Yeah well, was very happy with the device until today.
Bottom speaker produces horrible crackling sound when playing any sound. It's just defect from now to then.
Thanks to Amazon i can now send it for repair and am already sure that there will be anything like scratches, bad gaps or whatever...
Not even speaking of IP rating.
Did anyone else have a defect speaker? Because after that short time and rarely using it this is rather strange.
Actually i'm pretty pissed about Sonys quality. Always thought it was good, but some days ago my wife's X compact got a defect on screen and now this. Used htc since the original Desire and never had anything. Seems switching manufacturer is a bad idea
ALL manufacturers have defects. Getting my XZ2C next week, but issues like this are standard for any manufacturer and shouldn't put you off any brand. Either get your phone repaired, or deal with the crackling.
My HTC M7 failed once. My HTC M9 failed twice. My HTC 10 has also failed twice and on the second repair they scratched the backlight on the Recents button. Their quality control is the same. Such is life. Getting worked up about it won't solve anything.
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Yeah well, was very happy with the device until today.
Bottom speaker produces horrible crackling sound when playing any sound. It's just defect from now to then.
Thanks to Amazon i can now send it for repair and am already sure that there will be anything like scratches, bad gaps or whatever...
Not even speaking of IP rating.
Did anyone else have a defect speaker? Because after that short time and rarely using it this is rather strange.
Actually i'm pretty pissed about Sonys quality. Always thought it was good, but some days ago my wife's X compact got a defect on screen and now this. Used htc since the original Desire and never had anything. Seems switching manufacturer is a bad idea
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Yes I also have a defect bottom speaker. Severe crackling above about 75% volume in the mid-ranges frequency-wise. I've owned it maybe three or four weeks? I'm thinking I may have to return the phone. I think you're perfectly justified in being pissed - I'm a bit pissed too - this is a $600 phone and getting speaker crackling this early in is pretty ridiculous. Maybe it's just a particle of dust/debris that's made it into the speaker but nevertheless there seems to be an issue with this phone's design and/or manufacturing as I've seen a couple other posts about this problem on Sony's site.
My Axon 7 had this issue as well but the speaker grill could be pretty easily cleaned with a sim ejector and that always resolved it. But the XZ2c seems to have a bit more of a tight area around the speaker which might be nearly impossible to clean without removing the screen assembly.
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Yes I also have a defect bottom speaker. Severe crackling above about 75% volume in the mid-ranges frequency-wise. I've owned it maybe three or four weeks? I'm thinking I may have to return the phone. I think you're perfectly justified in being pissed - I'm a bit pissed too - this is a $600 phone and getting speaker crackling this early in is pretty ridiculous. Maybe it's just a particle of dust/debris that's made it into the speaker but nevertheless there seems to be an issue with this phone's design and/or manufacturing as I've seen a couple other posts about this problem on Sony's site.
My Axon 7 had this issue as well but the speaker grill could be pretty easily cleaned with a sim ejector and that always resolved it. But the XZ2c seems to have a bit more of a tight area around the speaker which might be nearly impossible to clean without removing the screen assembly.
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You can watch the xz2c teardown video on yt where you can see the internals. You can also see why they have to disassemble half of the phone for repair. There is a channel leading from the "gap" outside to the speaker inside. Regarding it is ip68 no piece of dust should make its way inside the speaker itself.
Apart from that i know how a broken speaker sounds and this one is broken. So either it is just a piece of s*** or they are powering it wrong. Can't remember ever having used it at 100% and even if it should be able to deal with it.
I bought a LG G6 as temporary replacement because it is ridicously cheap (paid 315€) and will send in my XZ2c tomorrow.
And while it is bigger and SD821 is noticeable after 835/845 you know what? It is also a good device...
Haven't decided yet if i'll keep the Sony after repair. Well first it has to be repaired (without damage).