Hello everyone, how lucky we're become one of devices that has great developers behind which they support our devices, workin' hard to make some cool CustomRom for our devices.
Fact that they're only human nor a robots or builder rom machines, have you guys ever think of how many times they spent, how many gigs they have to pull the sources,and uploading the rom for you guys??..May some refuse to get paid,may some devs did it as a hobies, fact that its all cost a money. We have a great user numbers here, so isn't hard to put some donates for them..
I made this post, cause of one of our great devs may leave us soon @LuK1337thank you so much for all you've done for our devices
OrdinaryNoob
His last statetment..
OrdinaryNoob
So he only want donations to keep building on for us what about NO! we have enough other devs that do this for free just because they like to do it they dont ask for donations!
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So he only want donations to keep building on for us what about NO! we have enough other devs that do this for free just because they like to do it they dont ask for donations!
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His last statetment..
OrdinaryNoob
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1) No one ask for Donation but its Users if they like they can support Dev's by donating ..
2) Remember Dev's spend lot of time of Development and many devs use Server and other Paid Stuffs in order to keep development intact even Rom Developers like carbon, aogp , aicp all build using servers which cost a lot and they pay with their own money for community they just request for donation only to keep development active..
3) no person can spend money all time for development purpose if users support they will support too because 1 can pay for sometime but not permanently hence Dev's leave when Device get old/users dont support (Donation is Not Compulsory) but its support for devs
4) Finally its end users choise no devs/members force anyone
Agreed none force to donates, i made this post just to make all of us think cuz i believe everything has cause&effect , face it that's the rules..
As i found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2805114
Did anyone of you donates to andrew when he fix this issues on his CM12 Alpha??proof us when anyone of you did that
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Be grateful guys
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Who'a next..
And yeaaasss still alot Devs on my list would receives that,you're guys rock..
OrdinaryNoob
@andreww your paypal @ [email protected]
Cannot send you, please any other account??
OrdinaryNoob
Heeey, i never, would ever forget you, damn hope you still here mate, thanks [email protected]
OrdinaryNoob
Why i did this, and i'll keep on doing this..so that everyone of us (s2ve/p) users can do the same thing so that every devs can keep on doing their devs,. Open your eyes how many old & some of you called crap devices can use Kitkat,and now Lollipop, even some devices was only dreams to tasted kitkat on it, even the higher prices devices still lack of developements..be gratefull guys..
OrdinaryNoob
@jackeagle sorry
OrdinaryNoob
i would suggest to anyone which can afford it to save 50$ away monthly and spend it on donations onto various open source projects you like and use.
because this people are doing a good amount of WORK which adds value to us all, so they defenitely deserve some money for it imho.
just my 2 cents
Next ghsr...recovery for my LG thanks mate
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Hi to all members of Galaxy Fit Subform
Today,I took the liberty to contact tj_style on belhalf of this subforum and asked him if he
would be prepared to help us port Clockwork Recovery Mod For Galaxy Fit.
His answer was " i don't have the device, that's the problem ".
I responded as follows; "Suppose we collect some money from the forum so that you can buy one, would you port a CWM for it.Please advise ."
He replied : "yes, if i have one. i can start to developing rom for that device.
i will not release rom or recovery that not tested by me.. because i think is dangerous..
tj_style"
So guys here is a chance to donate the price of a Galaxy Fit for tj_style so that he starts developing a Rom and a CWM for our device.
If interested , we could form a fund where each one contributes a sum fo money to be sent to tj_style so that he can buy the phone.
Please come up with workable alternative suggestions so that we implement this proposal.
Best regards to all
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Hi to all members of Galaxy Fit Subform
Today,I took the liberty to contact tj_style on belhalf of this subforum and asked him if he
would be prepared to help us port Clockwork Recovery Mod For Galaxy Fit.
His answer was " i don't have the device, that's the problem ".
I responded as follows; "Suppose we collect some money from the forum so that you can buy one, would you port a CWM for it.Please advise ."
He replied : "yes, if i have one. i can start to developing rom for that device.
i will not release rom or recovery that not tested by me.. because i think is dangerous..
tj_style"
So guys here is a chance to donate the price of a Galaxy Fit for tj_style so that he starts developing a Rom and a CWM for our device.
If interested , we could form a fund where each one contributes a sum fo money to be sent to tj_style so that he can buy the phone.
Please come up with workable alternative suggestions so that we implement this proposal.
Best regards to all
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A second hand fit could cost him about 5 to 6k Indian rupees from ebay
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Bumb....+1 for people who can donate~
Already 108 viewers with only one positive reply. If each of the 108 viewers pays $ 2 , then we can buy tj_style a new Galaxy Fit so that all of us can benefit.
A beautiful show of cooperation.
M in
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Actually I shouldn't say this.. but now I can't stop myself to say this thing... I have been seeing alot of people to donate tj_style from a couple of months ... but just can't understand where the whole money is goin.... galaxy mini owners were donating him from a really long time... galaxy fit owners are donating himm now... plz somebody tell me that whether the money he get till now after so many donations wasn't enough for him to buy a new device or what....
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Actually I shouldn't say this.. but now I can't stop myself to say this thing... I have been seeing alot of people to donate tj_style from a couple of months ... but just can't understand where the whole money is goin.... galaxy mini owners were donating him from a really long time... galaxy fit owners are donating himm now... plz somebody tell me that whether the money he get till now after so many donations wasn't enough for him to buy a new device or what....
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Go through the galaxy mini forum and see the amount of development he has done for the device...and the money he gets from the donation is for the time and hard work he invests in development...why the hell would he use that money to buy a device when we want him to develop for our device....
Would you give away something without expecting anything in return...
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I am nnot at all saying that he shud use that money for buying a device like galaxy fit... I am just saying k
that forum too, he mentioned some prob with his own galaxy mini and people were giving donations to him so that he cud buy that galaxy mini again and continue his developing....... at that time too... he hasng shown any positive post that this much amount is more needed or very less donations or donations are enough to buy a new gmini.... he never shared any news and the accepted donations blindly without informing the truth... at that time too people needed him... so they were donating..... and donations on the base of his work was very very less(actually very minute) if u noticef carefully.... and now... situation is making an image of him in my mind that he is a serious game planner.... afterall who knows truth except he himself..... so... i don't recommend at all that the members of this forum should donate him..... coz how wud he know that how much money he collected from this forum n what else he collected on the base of his development.... there is no system like u can mention that u r donating him on this reason.... u can only provide feedback... n I believe making him buy our device for our benefits is like bribe-ing him....
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N I know... sharing these kinda views, can make him feel sad and speaking frankly on being a member of this forum, even it cud be harmfull for the development of our device if I am wrong... but I don't give a damn about it... if he's a man... then he may reply this and proove me wronng... n I'll be happy too if it is so.... but if this is true... then he should feel guility about all that.......
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N I know... sharing these kinda views, can make him feel sad and speaking frankly on being a member of this forum, even it cud be harmfull for the development of our device if I am wrong... but I don't give a damn about it... if he's a man... then he may reply this and proove me wronng... n I'll be happy too if it is so.... but if this is true... then he should feel guility about all that.......
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Guys to develop the device that takes quite a long time and spend lots of time. so respect it.
so if you do not want to donate for the device. but do not provoke guys.
donations only for a donation would be.
Sorry for my english.
d~Yz's®
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I am nnot at all saying that he shud use that money for buying a device like galaxy fit... I am just saying k
that forum too, he mentioned some prob with his own galaxy mini and people were giving donations to him so that he cud buy that galaxy mini again and continue his developing....... at that time too... he hasng shown any positive post that this much amount is more needed or very less donations or donations are enough to buy a new gmini.... he never shared any news and the accepted donations blindly without informing the truth... at that time too people needed him... so they were donating..... and donations on the base of his work was very very less(actually very minute) if u noticef carefully.... and now... situation is making an image of him in my mind that he is a serious game planner.... afterall who knows truth except he himself..... so... i don't recommend at all that the members of this forum should donate him..... coz how wud he know that how much money he collected from this forum n what else he collected on the base of his development.... there is no system like u can mention that u r donating him on this reason.... u can only provide feedback... n I believe making him buy our device for our benefits is like bribe-ing him....
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lol.. all galaxy mini donation that sent to my paypal account is useless now.. i can't take the money because my account status is limited. should i post the screenshot in here?
and do you think what benefit for me to accept device and donation to me for developing the device?
developing 1 device that mean i should share my work and family time to developing that device.
what the benefit for me? i have primary device, for daily use. so device from donation is useless, i just use that device for testing purepose.
money from donation, do you think that enough for me and my family? better i work (real work)..
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lol.. all galaxy mini donation that sent to my paypal account is useless now.. i can't take the money because my account status is limited. should i post the screenshot in here?
and do you think what benefit for me to accept device and donation to me for developing the device?
developing 1 device that mean i should share my work and family time to developing that device.
what the benefit for me? i have primary device, for daily use. so device from donation is useless, i just use that device for testing purepose.
money from donation, do you think that enough for me and my family? better i work (real work)..
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i know how u feel...
keep spirit gan...
u're our developer..
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lol.. all galaxy mini donation that sent to my paypal account is useless now.. i can't take the money because my account status is limited. should i post the screenshot in here?
and do you think what benefit for me to accept device and donation to me for developing the device?
developing 1 device that mean i should share my work and family time to developing that device.
what the benefit for me? i have primary device, for daily use. so device from donation is useless, i just use that device for testing purepose.
money from donation, do you think that enough for me and my family? better i work (real work)..
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We r already very thankful to u tj in helping vish to port cm7 for us
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Clearly there has been certain situations where some of you are not content with your phone, or rather consider your phone "Useless", rather than building a campfire to light the phone on fire or donate it to a homeless man, I would insist that you consider the following options to donate your phone to these developers.
Certain developers are willing to take a look at this phone, I know most of you are willing to get rid/dispose of your phone due to your lack and feel of no progress, rather we are taking the initiative to reboot this motive so that developers familiar with the hardware layout of the I9000 or such may also have the experience of the I9003 to see what can be done, and in better hopes help codeworkx resume his project of CM7.
Below shall be updated regularly with the current name's of the developer's, what they wish to accomplish followed by what they specialize in. The list shall contain their name's linked to their profile.
Hoping for your kind negotiation regarding this matter
Kind regards,
Misledz
Current Listing follows -
- fuss132 - ICS Porting, Proven. *Refer to Youtube link*
- DooMLoRD - Kernel / USB OTG. [Team UtterChaos]
Completed
- Skin1980 - Father of everything modded for i9003. Nuff said.
- codeworkx - CM7 Development / CWM
Oh u just took my word from my mouth...well said bro...
Good luck Fuss.
Ahh....I see what you did there.
@ fuss
I really appreciate ur work bro. I am glad that u are from our side. I dont think so anybody will donate phone free of cost. I have an idea. Is there anyone on this phone who is from same city of u so that u can take his for testing??? If u would have in my city then blindly I would have given phone to u buddy.
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@ fuss
I really appreciate ur work bro. I am glad that u are from our side. I dont think so anybody will donate phone free of cost. I have an idea. Is there anyone on this phone who is from same city of u so that u can take his for testing??? If u would have in my city then blindly I would have given phone to u buddy.
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Thanks for your trust in me, but poorly there´s no one.
It´s not necessary that the phone is free of cost for me, it should be only cheap.
i am willing to pass my phone on cheap, as soon as i got a new on (S2 or Nexus, will see)
problem is that i am sitting in china, so if you are in Dongguan/HK area, i am able to meet up, apart from that, i dont pay delivery fee although i can organise cheap delivery
I want to sell my i9003 anyone interested contact me via facebook or email [email protected]
no offence guys but why cant we donate to galnet,instead of donating to an amateur,
the sdk port however good will not be usable trust me,we will get ics via cyanogenmod or samsung.if we want miui or some awesome kernels we need to donate to some big group like galnet.
p.s-no offence
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no offence guys but why cant we donate to galnet,instead of donating to an amateur,
the sdk port however good will not be usable trust me,we will get ics via cyanogenmod or samsung.if we want miui or some awesome kernels we need to donate to some big group like galnet.
p.s-no offence
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+ 100 for galnet MIUI!
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+1 for galnet for miui developement.
even Doomlord is also ready to work on our device. Like how codeworkx is recognised developer for galaxy devices like that Doomlorad is most famous recognised developer for sony experia devices. Just search on xda as 'doomlord kernal' u will come to know that he is really a super master in kernal developement. Just few days ago xperia community donated latest experia phone to him for developement. So we should donate him also a phone. He is living in pune, india. So indian people can easily donate him via private bank account & other can donate him paypal account.
@vishal open a thread and we wil donate to doomlord..u can talk to him.
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We could donate a phone to xiaomi to develop miui.
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We could donate a phone to xiaomi to develop miui.
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Can you discuss this matter in Chinese forums? Isn't MIUI a Chinese rom?
The Chinese users might be pretty willing to donate to someone in China.
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@vishal
Dude, podaminesh wants to sell his phone.
Can u pm doomlord to give his contact details to podaminesh?
Let them contact each other directly.
Once they decide upon the amount, we can start the donation round, if the members agree.
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Dude, podaminesh wants to sell his phone.
Can u pm doomlord to give his contact details to podaminesh?
Let them contact each other directly.
Once they decide upon the amount, we can start the donation round, if the members agree.
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ya good idea. I will donate also but problem is if I open a thread for donation then I cant maintain it regularly because for 1 month now onwards I am busy with study for exam. Now my exams are near. So if a senior member is free then he should take initiative to start a donation thread.
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ya good idea. I will donate also but problem is if I open a thread for donation then I cant maintain it regularly because for 1 month now onwards I am busy with study for exam. Now my exams are near. So if a senior member is free then he should take initiative to start a donation thread.
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i want to sell my phone at app 10.5k
so if i get it i will surely parcel my phone to doomlord i have no problem..
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i want to sell my phone at app 10.5k
so if i get it i will surely parcel my phone to doomlord i have no problem..
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I think its a worth price for all of us. I will talk to doomlord about this.
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I think its a worth price for all of us. I will talk to doomlord about this.
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Excellent!
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Excellent!
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hey Lordrdx666 what u think should we start thinking seriously about donation once again...? Because I dont want that I will be only one who want to donate phone doomlorad...! If many people are ready to pay then 10,000 rs is not a big ammount. Even its half of amount that we had donated to codeworkx.
Guys as u already know that DOOMLORD has created a thread for donation. But dont know why people are not taking it seriously.
I just want to ask u seriously guys that really do u want that we should donate a phone to DOOMLORD?? Because I dont want to force anybody here for donation.
So vote for it guys & let us know what u want.
Guys plz tell me names who really want to donate....!!! Its important guys...
lol. i forgot to donate. was in the city. crap.
will donate soon
edit: y did u say "yes we should donate"?
shld be "yes i will donate"!
some ppl will misunderstand and just vote, even if they wont b able to donate!
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lol. i forgot to donate. was in the city. crap.
will donate soon
edit: y did u say "yes we should donate"?
shld be "yes i will donate"!
some ppl will misunderstand and just vote, even if they wont b able to donate!
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thanx buddy. Please donate as early as possible. Really we all have to be active now for phone developement.
@ all i9003 members
GUYS what happened to all of you...??? Dont you want that our phone should get developement like other top developement phones like Galaxy s2 or Galaxy S??? Only CM7 or CF root is not enough guys. Poerting mods, themes can be done at any time guys but we all know that we really require a great kernal developer who will develope great kernals which will make phone snappier like never before. In galaxy S2 or Galaxy S section you will see tons of custom kernal which is done by them. In older days we had skin but now really we need to major step guys for our phone. Codeworkx already said that once ICS will release alll he will pay attention to GALAXY S & S2 phone. Then again we will be alone with our phone for long time. So guys please dont be restrict yourself upto some themes or mods. Dont make urself busy with new officially roms released by samsung. They can deeply reviwed by us later. But right now donation & more important KERNAL developement is more necessary.
I just want that u have to just donate a very small amount say like 200-300 Rs (5-6 $ USD) which we usually spend on some non-important things. If we donate today it will refund u in form of high level kernal development. So please I again & again requesting u to take some initiative. No other developer will come to help us. Unless & until they have phone in hand no developer can develop virtually for our phone. THINK GUYS SERIOUSLY ABOUT THIS PLEASE .
repeat post...
i will soon post guide to compile kernel for i9003.....will surely help newbies!
i really want to donate DEVs,but my firend who have the account of paypal have gone,now i cant donate by this way.if you can provide a account of alipay or taobao links ,i think guys from China will donate emmmm...my englishi is poor....
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I donated 8$ to podanimesh, vishal
Also, Kernel Not Kernal
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Also, Kernel Not Kernal
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And i thought i was the only one who noticed this. Anyway as much as i want to donate a little of my savings i'm pretty tied up right now.
Count me in
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Count me in for 10$.
Voting shows 21 people think that we should donate. But actualy only hardly 10-12 people ready to donate. Then is that remaining people just think that donation should be done by other & not by themsalves? Dont they have any moral responsibility?
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Dont they have any moral responsibility?
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And if they've already donated to codeworkx? It's time for the rest of the community to donate.
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And if they've already donated to codeworkx? It's time for the rest of the community to donate.
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ya buddy...! I was talking about only those people who have never donated till now without any reason. I was blaming those people who just want everything free of cost.
donation has started. Please look in developement area for doomlord's donation thread. Please giys donate some amount. It will help our phone guys.
DONATION PROGRESS IS OVER, FUSS ALREADY GOT THE DEVICE, THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DONATED
Hey all
Looking forward everything he made for us this last months, I really appreciate the all he does for helping our community without receiving anything for it, even if he is not a I9003 owner, so here's the question: Should we begin donations to help him get a I9003?
I just contacted him by PM, asking him what happened to his I9003 (actually I thought he had one because o the great stuff he does for us) and he told me my mistake: He is not a I9003 owner.
Here I leave you the PM and you decide if it's necessary for us or not, and if we can make him a I9003 owner to help us even more
Originally Posted by Slynightdark
Hey man I'm very proud that you help I9003 to grow up, and I'm wondering why you don't have a I9003. Did it bricked or something like that? Should I try to make people donate to give you a I9003? Because I really appreciate everything you do, even you don't have the phone to develop working on it
Will be waiting your response
Adrián Valero
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Hey,
no it´s not bricked, i only don´t have one I´m normally using my Galaxy S... It would be very nice if you try to make the people donating, cause i love the challenge the I9003 comes with
And without a phone to test it´s to big ^^
Thanks on advance
fuss132
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Members who donated:
- anonymous: 20$
- cansat 10$
- akkrish85 8Euro
- luiseteyo 6$
- OTERBELLO 8$
- RaDiu5 4$
- kancilpintar 15 $
- zairyn 5 Euro
- speedypoint 8 Euro
- txitxo0 8 $
- adr1.: 13€
- jeromolanos: 5$
- maxoooo: 7$
- gabyadri: 7$
- ganeshbiyer: 10$
- Juanre88: 8€
- manuelmagix 10$
- lee82gx: 5$
- Saiph79 20$
- rohit_rocks: 5$
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REACHED 145,94 EUR
This is just an approximated amount, I don't know exactly because of paypal taxes
If I forgot someone just post above
TARGET: 150€
Some donations are extracted from the similar thread in spanish forum
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=292820
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS PROJECT
If you want to donate, just post the amount and I'll add you
I will re-donate, you know.. It is not needed people to donate 30$, if 30 people made a donation of at least 5$ we could buy a second hand mobile for him or something like that.
Luck with he proyect, slynightdark.
I want to donate
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU GREAT PEOPLE... KINDLY POST MY FACEBOOK POST LINK ALSO...
I am very happy that slynightdark has taken a step towards redemption for our phone.... And with the release of gingerbread 2.3.7 and hopefully with release of even more updated sources, i am very confident that we should be having some major contributions by fuss132!
Who all agree with me....
Once a general consensus has been reached, i will transfer upto Indian rupees 1000 or maybe a bit more via bank transfer or via money order to whosoever is willing to take up banking work...
Come on people let us show some love to this guy.... He did work for us for quite some time....
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THANKS TO ALL OF YOU GREAT PEOPLE... KINDLY POST MY FACEBOOK POST LINK ALSO...
I am very happy that slynightdark has taken a step towards redemption for our phone.... And with the release of gingerbread 2.3.7 and hopefully with release of even more updated sources, i am very confident that we should be having some major contributions by fuss132!
Who all agree with me....
Once a general consensus has been reached, i will transfer upto Indian rupees 1000 or maybe a bit more via bank transfer or via money order to whosoever is willing to take up banking work...
Come on people let us show some love to this guy.... He did work for us for quite some time....
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That's the spirit! Right now we have to see if people accept to contribute, come on guys, this would be very helpful for I9003 community
I dont know that how many members will now get ready for donation but I will surely help u. As I am student & as I already donated to doomlord I cant donate at least for now. After finishing my exams I will surely donate in december months if sufficient number of members are get ready which will be quite hard. But dont loose hopes. I am with u.
It is true that people just donated for DoomLord SCL, and we are not rich people, but i am sure that in december we will have enough to buy a phone for fuss. We dont have to carry up, we have time to get the money and this guy did a lot for us HAVING NO PHONE. So his development was only for as, not for him...
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It is true that people just donated for DoomLord SCL, and we are not rich people, but i am sure that in december we will have enough to buy a phone for fuss. We dont have to carry up, we have time to get the money and this guy did a lot for us HAVING NO PHONE. So his development was only for as, not for him...
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Totally true man, no hurry, but as soon as we begin we'll end sooner so, basing in procedure with doomlord donations, can people who WANT to donate to tell the possible amount to make an aproximated number of money we can collect?
I would like to contribute about 5 €
dont take wrong guys but a small suggestion is there. Still we have not completed donation amount that we have to donate to doomlord. He brought device by adding 20% from his pocket instead of just 10% which he had mentioned. I mean to say we should first complete donation amount of doomlord then we can concentrate here. It will not look good that doomlord is taking efforts for us by adding his own money for us. I hope u understand what I mean.
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dont take wrong guys but a small suggestion is there. Still we have not completed donation amount that we have to donate to doomlord. He brought device by adding 20% from his pocket instead of just 10% which he had mentioned. I mean to say we should first complete donation amount of doomlord then we can concentrate here. It will not look good that doomlord is taking efforts for us by adding his own money for us. I hope u understand what I mean.
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I completely understand you, we should first finish the donation to doomlord and after concentrate on it.
Anyway, that won't get too much time, will it?
^^ Yup, agree with vishal's words. As for me, I'll try to add my donation to doomlord when he releases his work, and also count me in for this project, hopefully more people will show interest
5€
Saludos
I will donate US$5 in December. Don't want my wife going crazy with the CC bill this month
when the heck did 2.3.7 get released?
I am willing to donate upto $ 15 to 20... Approx INR - 500 to 1000 if things go good enough... I might even donate more.. If things go well..
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Count me in for 5$.
Great, but guys, as vishal said, let's concentrate in doomlord right now. After that, we can take this seriously
Count me in , I will donate 5 to 10 $
INTRODUCTION
I am starting this forum in hope of educating my readers about ROM development according to my experiences. Further, I will highlight what is the usual developers' thought process before they decide to build a ROM for a specific device. The reasons why they usually choose a certain device or why they prefer one device over another would also be stated briefly. I also have intention of looking into ways how we can speed up ROM productions for Xperia L and what you can do to play your part.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION FOR NO CUSTOM ROMS EVEN AFTER 7 MONTHS BUT THIS DOESNOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPAM
I am sure many of you must be really disappointed by the lack of development for Xperia L and I know this must be frustrating when we see other devices are getting ROMS so quickly. However, sad to put this into writing that many users have indulge into SPAMMING and I have not seen a more unorganised forum at XDA for a while. I know many are too excited when they find a little about any OTA/ Custom ROM and sharing such news is fully justified after it seems plausible. However, it's beyond my logic & thinking why the forums are SPAMMED for any little information they might find anywhere regardless of their sources or if it has been ALREADY POSTED. I reckon many of these threads could have been avoided by simply searching in the forum.
ROM DEVELOPMENT
I can assure you that many develoeprs are working very hard to PORT and develop different ROMS for Xperia L. However, the reason we can not see any CUSTOM roms till yet is due to complicated nature of Xperia L itself.
Usually developers prefer a device which is :
1. Easy to work with, less complicated to code with or in other terms DEVELOPER friendly. For example, for a while I had a real issue with HTC phones as they have too many things to work with like Bootloader, S Lock, Radios, Hboot version etc while in Nexus devices you only need to unlock your device with one fastboot command. That's all and you are ready to flash ROMs.
2. Personal preference of Device. This simply means that we all have different tastes and thus we choose different devices. A certain developer might only work for a certain brand while other might work with few brands. This has nothing to do with anything but a personal choice.
3. A device that promises reward in terms of money/self satisfaction. Developers usually go for devices which have most active users so if their intention is also to get some money out of it in terms of donation, this will work well with devices which are more in number.
4. Knowledge about a certain brand more than another.
5. MONEY TO BUY A CERTAIN DEVICE/DEVICES. Suppose a developer wants to make ROMS for Xperia L/ SP/Z and Xperia U. Yet he only has 500 dollars to choose from. He then will have to make a choice between devices and this will eventually mean that not all of the devices get the same treatment. Money is the most decisive factor why a developer doesnot chose your device but rather another. For example purpose only, if I have to choose between devices, I might prefer SP over Xperia L as I can see more future of SP than Xperia L(I might be wrong).
SOME REQUESTS
Please STOP bugging developers by trivial questions. Just think how many other people ask the same question and it gets very frustrating to actually work on the device itself.
Every developer has a LIFE apart from developing ROMs. They also have a family, school, work, hobbies, bad days and so much like us. So they will do it when they feel like doing it. Just sit back and relax. Enjoy your device until developer releases the ROM for your device. Asking a REASONABLE question seems plausible but asking same questions/useless questions without using brains is just STUPID. Kindly refrain from that.
Ubberlaggydarwin has taken the initiative to work on CyanogenMod and I believe the best thing now is to be patient. Let him concentrate. Spamming and spamming again won't help really. I saw the other posts from other CM developers who clearly stated that CM team do not HAVE xperia L till yet to start working on CM and people have started SPAMMING developers, their twitters, blogs and accounts. That's really sad. You can discuss on the forum what you think about it but IRKING developers isnot really cool.
The reason of this forum is to work as a team and I am afraid we havenot been really good at it till now and moderators have to CLOSE/DELETE forums.
If you are wondering why Xperia L isnot getting many CUSTOM ROMS is that it is a complicated device and small developers are having a tough job working on it. Thus, many developers who could easily port a ROM or build one haven't been successful as their are many stumbling blocks to work with.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP DEVELOPERS AND SEE CUSTOM ROMS.
1. Search the form first and look for answers. DON'T start new posts/questions/threads when it is ALREADY mentioned in some other section.
2. STOP PMing/SPAMING developers but rather ask a question WHICH havenot been asked before in the forum. Do not engage in the habit of making a new forum for everything. Try to keep threads as little as possible.
3. Follow developers and see what they have updated about on their official twitter,facebook,etc rather than bugging them on different forums/social websites.
4 DONATE THEM. DONATE THEM . DONATE THEM!
The amount of efforts they put, sitting for hours in front of their PCs and I know how frustrating it gets when you try to run commands and everything seems to work yet you can not boot up your ROM. And worse, you can not find WHY really. Just a change in line in build.prop results in failure of ROM to boot up and specially working from source to build ROM is really really tough. The best thing you can do is being supportive and patient !
A ROM development requires not just EXCESSIVE amount of hardwork, time, energy and dedication but also they need MONEY to actually buy devices and try it on. They are happy and encouraged to keep on developing ROMs when they see their efforts are not wasted and they are rewarded and respected for what they do.
MY SUGGESTION
An easy way to encourage the developers to work for Xperia L is by donations. Give them donations to buy a specific device. In our case, we can agree on how much we all can donate. After it is learnt how many devices can be bought with donations, we can send the amount to different developers to buy Xperia L.
I give you the opportunity to write on this forum who wants to donate and whom they trust to do this job. Specific developers can be chosen.
You can discuss about why you chose a certain developer and how much he can offer. In the end, voting should be done between users who are willing to donate so we can agree who will be the best men to do this job (of developing ROMs).
I am NOT asking for any donations myself (I have no donation bar in my account) or no one has asked me to start this post.
I will appreciate that people do not SPAM THIS THREAD.
ONLY put really important points or if you are willing to donate or want to make a valid point. I will add the names and the amount any user wishes to donate so we can track how much have been donated in theory before we can actually take the next step.
Xperia L costs around US $235 in USA, GBP 217 in the UK. So even if 50 people donate around 5-7 dollars (less than one hour of your wage), we can have many ROMS and support for our device.
I donot have a paypal account and I will ask my bank if I can make transactions to PAYPAL to tell you that I am the first person to take initiative of my theory.
UPDATE : STARTED A FORUM IN DEVELOPMENT SECTION TO FIND DEVELOPERS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47791745#post47791745
Kindly show your support and write on the thread now and then so most people can see the thread and we can reach more developers.
UPDATES :
UPDATE 24/11/2013:
Most developers have still not given any positive response till yet and I can only disappoint you that I do not see any CUSTOM development until January. No CM brewing officially and the device added on CM is just for reference. uberlaggydarwin is interested but he doesnot have the device till yet.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I hope to give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA.
Uberlaggydarwin is close to buy an Xperia L and he seems to finish Xperia L development before January if donations are made by then in time. I have confirmed. Support him by donations.Check third post
UPDATE 29/11/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is still in short of money to buy Xperia L. He is still waiting for more donations made via Paypal or Google Play. Kindly Donate to him in case you want to speed up development.
UPDATE 1/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is having exams till wednesday. He will be then be having some holidays. If he can get donations, he will buy the phone and start working on it. He also told me that he will add few dollars himself if donations reach to a certain level.
UPDATE 3/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is going to make a PROPER STABLE ROM and he will strive hard to do it ! He is only interested in development and thus I believe I might be doing all the User support for CM for him! Anyone who wants to volunteer is highly appreciated.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Uberlaggy darwin is going to buy the device soon and he has got the money to buy the device. Well, I believe the reason why I started this forum has been accomplished. This wouldnot be updated anymore and If in case required, I will again start updating this thread. Thank You so much for your donations and working as a team to make it possible for uberlaggydarwin to buy the device. Remember he has put his own 140 dollars into the device. If you are happy with his work and appreciate the CM when it comes available, you can continue donating to him.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Ubberlaggydarwin said, he will release CAF kernel within three days when he gets the device!
He is very enthusiastic about working CM on Xperia L.
WANT DETAILED UPDATES : CHECK THEM HERE
DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR XPERIA L
@uberlaggydarwin
You can support him by buying his apps on google play. They are for 0.99, 2.74 and 4.56. Together they add up to 8.29 in dollars
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uberlaggydarwin.supportkangaroohacker
You can also donate via PayPal by clicking this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=5314976
PayPal address ([email protected])
DONATIONS MADE BY
A big round of applause who have made possible for CM to be made possible on Xperia L:
@Voltal
@LaZiODROID
@utsavkoju
These are people who have donated to the best of my knowledge, if you think your name should be here. PM me !
Thanking them is least you can do!
Reserved for other important points/suggestions/feedback
Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!
Hnk1 said:
Reserved for Developer names
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if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app
naitik2012 said:
if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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siankatabg said:
Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app
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I am in contact with uberlaggydarwin and he still hasnot got the device. He has worked a bit for our device using his friend phone but that's not enough. He told me that he is seriously considering CM for Xperia L and he will tell me about it in a day or two. Also, he got exams next week so it wouldnot surprise me that if he takes his time to reply back. Kindly do not PM him or quote him unless required as I am in direct talks with him.
adfad666 is a well known developer but I am not sure if he is interested in development for Xperia L. Can you ask him if he is interested in development for Xperia L. If suppose he is, we can give him incentives to work for our device. Just see what he says about it.
As far as CM is concerned, they still havenot got the device yet. And they NEVER announce support for any device until they have made CM already. It's really surprising as I have never seen CM add a device with no build but I hope it means good news for Xperia L.
About donations, it's not that we are doing a FAVOUR to developers but simply incentives / ways to have enough money to buy the device. That's it. Developers need devices until they can actually make the ROMS. In real, they are the ones who are helping us!
You can support developers by buying their apps on google play,however, I am not providing links until a developer confirms he is serious about Xperia L.
I can not tell you more at this point as some things need to be sorted out between developers and it is just in "suggestion phase"
We only need one CUSTOM rom like CM and I am sure, many small developers will base their ROMS on it. So we will soon have a lot of custom ROMS.
Around 4 people have asked for alternative ways to donate apart from paypal/credit card. If any one has suggestions, do write them.
Update:
I got exam this monday and tuesday so I might not write back soon
Update 2 : started a forum. Link in the first post. Check it out and support the thread.
@serajr
@naitik2012
@steeserious
@siankatabg
I am sorry to break this disappoint you
MAJOR UPDATE :
I hate to disappoint you all but it seems that we won't see any custom ROM till the end of January unless we find a developer. I have talked to my sources and I can only break to you this news.There is nothing brewing at the moment in official CM either.
However it's very possible that someone is working on a Rom whom I don't know.
uberlaggydarwin is developer from Xperia SP and he is interested. He got a bootable CM and done quite a work but he hasnot got the device itself.
He had been working on the device of his friend which wouldnot be available to him any more. I am not sure what happens next and I will update you if i have any more updates.
Kindly do not ask about my sources as I simply can't.
Unless we attract any other developer, we are on our own. So if anyone can help or reach developers, kindly share.
The main reason for no real roms for Xperia L is develoeprs not ready to buy this device.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I will give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA. I am also in talks with others but it's very early to say anything till yet. I am hoping to get a reply from DoomLord by tomorrow!
Uberlaggydarwin :Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to Stefan Ernst (steeserious?) from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of December
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
He is still short on donations !
UPDATE 29/11/13
I had talks with uberlaggydarwin and he is still short on cash to buy Xperia L device. He is serious about Xperia L if you can help him buy the device. Also, we talked about how we can send him donations apart from his paypal & google play apps. Check third post of this thread to donate. Moreover, if you can not donate yourself, you can ask someone to donate via their paypal/bank account and you can hand them cash. 5 to 10 dollars isnot a big deal. You spend that amount of money on fast food. Come On guys!!!
Other developers that I have talked with havenot given any positive response so till now we only have hope of uberlaggydarwin!
Currently uberlaggydarwin has got exams so I might not be able to reach uberlaggydarwin
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3
serajr said:
Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!
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naitik2012 said:
if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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siankatabg said:
Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app
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Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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Sparksys said:
There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3
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I have started Updating about Xperia L development on second post. Do check it regularly. I need your support in case any developer is ready to help us. Kindly if you can donate or are ready to use device for test versions and submit logs to developers, that be great!
Even if you can not do any of the above, you can suggest opinions and think of ways to be helpful.
you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.
steeserious said:
you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.
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I am in direct talks with him. Thank you !
Good news from Brinly Taylor
Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to steeserious from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of november
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
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ileeba7 said:
Good news from Brinly Taylor
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Its already been mentioned in updates. Kindly don't rewrite something already present or if you want to donate or you have something really important to share.
I just donated U$5, may not be much, but i hope it helps a little bit. After 6/12 i will know how much i have free from my budget of December.
Also donated!