I bought a couple of (what I thought were) Xiaomi Hongmi 1S phones. They work OK, but apparently they are fakes. They are based on an MTK6582 instead of a Snapdragon chip. The problem with them is that when I want to root them, I kept getting error messages (missing scatter). Now I realize that this may be because they are not what I was assuming they were.
Right now they are running MIUI.
If I wanted to flash a different ROM, how would I pick the right one? If I go to needrom, it asks for the manufacturer's name, and I am not sure who the manufacturer is.
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Hi Guys, I'm wondering if Mi4 is still worth it to get today. I have the chance on also getting the Mi4C instead. So I would like to know your experience with it and if you have had the chance to try and compare it to the Mi4C, what would you recommend me to go for.
Mi4 or Mi4C
I wonder if is it a deal breaker to get the Mi4c over the Mi4, taking in count both cameras and the processor. Considering also both with 3 gb ram, and software development such as custom roms and xiaomi official firmware.
Thanks
amiguielesl said:
Hi Guys, I'm wondering if Mi4 is still worth it to get today. I have the chance on also getting the Mi4C instead. So I would like to know your experience with it and if you have had the chance to try and compare it to the Mi4C, what would you recommend me to go for.
Mi4 or Mi4C
I wonder if is it a deal breaker to get the Mi4c over the Mi4, taking in count both cameras and the processor. Considering also both with 3 gb ram, and software development such as custom roms and xiaomi official firmware.
Thanks
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I did get the mi4 because:
- Better design (in my opinion)
- possibility to install w10
- more roms ( i think)
and in terms of performance and camera they are almost equal.
Mi4 should have better camera, F1.8 aperture size.
I am going to buy a new smartphone and the 2 alternatives are Mi4 3gb no LTE (my operator uses mainly 800mhz lte) and Redmi Note 3 Pro 3gb. Prices are $160 for Mi4 and $216 for Redmi. I don´t like phablet but the newer hardware of Redmi Note 3 Pro is also interesting... Any advice?
I'm not a pro, so my advice may be wrong, but I believe the Mi4 kernal is open so you can will get more longer term custom ROM support (eg Cyanogenmod) where as the Redmi might have better specs, but the kernel source may never be released and therefor you'll be restricted to whatever version of MIUI Xiaomi choose to releases on the device. I was faced with exactly the same choice and went with the Mi4. Infact I am about to install CM13 on it.
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I'm not a pro, so my advice may be wrong, but I believe the Mi4 kernal is open so you can will get more longer term custom ROM support (eg Cyanogenmod) where as the Redmi might have better specs, but the kernel source may never be released and therefor you'll be restricted to whatever version of MIUI Xiaomi choose to releases on the device. I was faced with exactly the same choice and went with the Mi4. Infact I am about to install CM13 on it.
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Thanks but Xiaomi has already released the kernel source for Redmi Note 3 Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/kernel-source-redmi-note-3-pro-t3349609
mdki1996 said:
Thanks but Xiaomi has already released the kernel source for Redmi Note 3 Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/kernel-source-redmi-note-3-pro-t3349609
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Ah, I was actually thinking of the Redmi Note 2 which hasn't got a kernel release if I'm not mistaken. I would go for the Note 3 in your case. Better specs, and bigger screen is a good thing too.
Not to bump a thread a few days old, but I'd say the Mi 4. I just bought one on sale for $145 or so with shipping. I was torn as well but the hardware is what appeals to me the most. I also like how you can install Windows Phone 10 on it, I might do that for a few days just to reminisce of my WP days.
Hello. Whats up with versions of mi4? There's Mi4 with 2/3gb ram and Mi4c and S version. Which is official version from development thread? I don't wanna brick my next phone
Mi4c, Mi4s, Mi4i are completely different phones, not the same as the original Mi4 (their CPUs are not even 32 bit like the one in Mi4), so you can't use ROMs for these phones. ROMs for Mi4c/s/i are in separate forums, not here.
There are 3 subversions of the original Mi4 - 3G version (described as "Mi4 W" in settings), "Mi4 LTE-CU" and "Mi4 LTE-CT". The amount of RAM doesn't matter. If you have Mi4 3G or LTE-CU variant then you can use almost any ROM for Mi4 or Mi3 (that's right Mi3 is actually a weaker version of Mi4, which is compatible). The only version that doesn't work with other ROMs is Mi4-LTE-CT (a specific LTE version). But in any case you should carefully read the requirements and instructions for each ROM.
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Mi4c, Mi4s, Mi4i are completely different phones, not the same as the original Mi4 (their CPUs are not even 32 bit like the one in Mi4), so you can't use ROMs for these phones. ROMs for Mi4c/s/i are in separate forums, not here.
There are 3 subversions of the original Mi4 - 3G version (described as "Mi4 W" in settings), "Mi4 LTE-CU" and "Mi4 LTE-CT". The amount of RAM doesn't matter. If you have Mi4 3G or LTE-CU variant then you can use almost any ROM for Mi4 or Mi3 (that's right Mi3 is actually a weaker version of Mi4, which is compatible). The only version that doesn't work with other ROMs is Mi4-LTE-CT (a specific LTE version). But in any case you should carefully read the requirements and instructions for each ROM.
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Thanks. I changed my mind and i'll buy an Redmi 3 Pro. 3/32GB LTE version should be fine with xda roms? Thank you
Edit: i mean there's only Redmi 3 on xda. The processor is same as used in Redmi 3. The only difference is more ram.
Hello World!
My beloved friends, i am looking for someone who can recommend me a good awesome chines brand Global version Unlocked Smartphone with 6" + 1080-4k Full HD display that is both root' erble and will allow me to install custom apps and beautiful custom roms that many of hard working XDA developers have developed.
I have been thinking to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X and a Xiaomi mi Mix 3 ram from 8-10 and storage 128-256GB.
Since many of the Umidigi customers been screwed over few times by the Umidigi company, and as their customer my self we all had difficulties with both updates and encrypted boot on the devices that forced us to use UmiOS that was their own custom made rip off Android OS.
The phone never got a stable update version and many time the Umidigi support did not answer our question, many got angry and said foul language out of frustration, and they ware told to shut up or Umidigi would ban them to write on the forum ever again.
So i am looking for a android enthusiast who know a good stable smartphone and awesome support, no way to brick and can easily be flashed back to the stock rom.
So please, anyone out there that owns a killer flagship unlocked Global version smartphone with awesome battery that keep the phone alive, with a price tag from 300-600 Euro that works smoothly without any crashing apps and annoying boot wait time and impossible fastboot that keeps the device locked in from the great options that there is out there.
Please write me your recommendation and tell me why you recommended me that specific phone. and why you disagree with me to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X, Xiaomi mi Mix 3.
thank you very much for your efforts!
How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)
LeHalua said:
How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
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There is barely any difference between the two but Chinese Rom is different because it's codename isn't Realme 5 Pro but Realme Q. It's almost impossible not to notice. If you had Chinese rom in settings about phone there would be Realme Q under model label, not realme 5 pro. Furthermore in case you didn't notice that there would be preinstalled Chinese market and apps and less or none Google stuff.
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Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
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On stock rom go to settings and about phone.
LeHalua said:
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
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If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
Except if you're a very advanced user like me. There are tiny differences between Chinese model hardware and global hardware so you shouldn't worry. There are two key differences (which I think are rather hardcoded than hardware limitation). One is that Chinese Realme Q has smaller system partition size for Chinese rom uses less storage because missing Google stuff. Other is global and Chinese variant modem antenna seems to support different 4G bands. Obviously Realme Q supports bands that are frequently used in China while global supports bands that are used in worldwide. This means Realme Q hardware is limited thus doesn't support European B7 and B20 4G bands.
LeHalua said:
Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
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I don't know about such method.
LeHalua said:
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)
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Yes. And more obvious.
Chinese market>Realme Q (RMX1971CN)
Global>Realme 5 Pro(RMX1971EX)
But don't bother trying to find device codenames with non-root apps. They don't make a difference between RMX1971CN and RMX1971EX.
Some extra info and details:
I ordered a Realme Q from China via AliExpress last October. Since then I'm using my device in Europe, Hungary and I'm in love with it. All the technical details I shared are results of personal testing and debugging. I'll tell you why you shouldn't worry about a Realme Q sold as a Realme 5 Pro.
If a seller wanted to do this for some reason they'd need to ask for official bootloader unlock from Realme. After getting the unlock approval (which isn't nearly sure for monthly unlock cap is 1000 device) they'd need to flash a custom recovery on it and clean flash a Realme 5 Pro global rom on the device. Fastboot flashing doesn't always work with this method. Furthermore because Realme Q system partition isn't as big as Realme 5 Pro's there would be complications.
After successfully flashing Global rom on the device the seller would need to flash back stock recovery and relock bootloader. This would likely confuse the device and cause bootloop. This whole procedure is timely, lots of effort required and some serious skill. As conclusion it is totally pointless and not worth it for any seller. The procedure is nearly the same on Xiaomi devices. So such logic applies there as well.
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If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
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In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?
LeHalua said:
In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?
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The more I know. No bigge. I try my best. I barely know anything about Color OS for I'm a real pure android lover thus ditched Cos after 3 days. I can't really comment on these features.
I want to buy the Xiamo Redmi Note 10 Pro online but it is a spanish version should i be allowed to easy change the language when installing the phone for the first time? If not is there an easy option to add other language to the phone?
greetings !
newwto said:
I want to buy the Xiamo Redmi Note 10 Pro online but it is a spanish version should i be allowed to easy change the language when installing the phone for the first time? If not is there an easy option to add other language to the phone?
greetings !
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Hi,
That version you're trying to buy is most probably the EU global version, which comes with all Global languages pre-installed. If you insert your SIM before the first time setup (first boot), your phone should automatically recognize your region and adjust itself accordingly.
If your language isn't included, you can unlock the Bootloader, flash official firmware from a different reigon and then Re-lock it again.
Also, as a Seasoned Xiaomi device enthusiast, here are a couple tips before buying/deciding:
There are some complaints and many reviews that the proximity sensor is sometimes defective on Arrival from seller, making calls extremely uncomfortable. Make sure to check its functionality before the Return window closes.
I own the Poco X3 NFC, which has the same snapdargon 732g chipset. Trust me when I say this, MIUI 12.5 is not optimized quite well for them. Games also don't recognize the right graphical settings for it. (Unless you plan to run a Custom ROM/Root immediately)
If you can sacrifice having a 3.5mm jack/sdcard, I would suggest buying the POCO F3, which is practically the same price but with the sd 870 chipset, an 200% increase in performance. Making MIUI actually usable.
If you must have 3.5mm/sdcard but can forgo an amoled screen for an LCD one, I would suggest the POCO X3 pro. It comes with the snapdragon 860 chipset and is cheaper in price anyways.
More answers can be found in the device sub-forum. Have fun with your new purchase
I cannot flash note 10 pro after I installed arrow rom , I guess it happened after the update of arrow rom. Before it was working fine.
Try everything from Twrp .. like cleaning
a.dalvik cache
b.System
C.metadata
d.Data
e.Cache
And even format...
arrow rom shows up again after reboot .....any help?
I also think it must come with all Global languages pre-installed.