Professional advice Pls!! - General Questions and Answers

Hello World!
My beloved friends, i am looking for someone who can recommend me a good awesome chines brand Global version Unlocked Smartphone with 6" + 1080-4k Full HD display that is both root' erble and will allow me to install custom apps and beautiful custom roms that many of hard working XDA developers have developed.
I have been thinking to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X and a Xiaomi mi Mix 3 ram from 8-10 and storage 128-256GB.
Since many of the Umidigi customers been screwed over few times by the Umidigi company, and as their customer my self we all had difficulties with both updates and encrypted boot on the devices that forced us to use UmiOS that was their own custom made rip off Android OS.
The phone never got a stable update version and many time the Umidigi support did not answer our question, many got angry and said foul language out of frustration, and they ware told to shut up or Umidigi would ban them to write on the forum ever again.
So i am looking for a android enthusiast who know a good stable smartphone and awesome support, no way to brick and can easily be flashed back to the stock rom.
So please, anyone out there that owns a killer flagship unlocked Global version smartphone with awesome battery that keep the phone alive, with a price tag from 300-600 Euro that works smoothly without any crashing apps and annoying boot wait time and impossible fastboot that keeps the device locked in from the great options that there is out there.
Please write me your recommendation and tell me why you recommended me that specific phone. and why you disagree with me to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X, Xiaomi mi Mix 3.
thank you very much for your efforts!

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Oppo r15 Pro Android P

Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.
Yeah, I have it running on mine, but it's the first beta, so a bunch of stuff isn't working, hoping they will release a new rom soon...
What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705
Vyviel said:
What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705
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Hey there Vyviel,
I have the Oppo R15 Pro CPH1831 also and purchased it outright from JB HiFi a couple of weeks back now - carrier is Telstra.
This is my very first Android device after having shifted over from a 6s Plus... I will say that I personally don't mind this ColorOS business ATM but then again I am unfamiliar with any of this custom ROM business... You are right about the hardware though... for let's say $600 AUD less than the Samsung Galaxy S9 it stands pretty tall in the spec department for the price of $779.
I am also in IT... that is to say that I have been tinkering now for about 15 years and at present I have 4 and a half units remaining on my Bachelor of IT degree.
Like yourself... I have not flashed a custom ROM, rooted an Android based device or recovered back to out of the box state in case one might need to get that all important warranty back in the game if the process manages to kick you in the proverbial sack... so we are in the same boat in not wanting to create a mid range in the expense scale paperweight.
I would really like to know how to do all of this in the safest way possible though and to be quite honest am finding it somewhat difficult to find a great deal of info on this phone.
I'm willing to share a few links that I have found in relation to flashing a ROM on one of these things if you wanna send me a PM (I'm unsure of the legalities of posting links here as I have only just joined XDA)... I'm not 100% sure of what to trust when it comes to the links (one is a Vietnamese site I believe) and all of these processes in general but it would be good to get a second opinion.
Anyways... this post is starting to read a bit like a book so I'll leave it at that for now.
Cheers mate
PS: Nothing against the Vietnamese people intended whatsoever - peace out
shayne77 said:
Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.
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You aren't only here buddy, tried flashing my phone as well. Didn't work, got the same error. I think it's for the Chinese version of the phone, I'm not entirely sure.
Agreed, bought phone outright. No carrier/network lock. I've had it a week and also I am over the colour os!! I have had a bit of trouble with compatibility with my other home devices like screen mirroring, cloning/switching device data, Wi-Fi stabilisation etc... But have discovered that most option menus change and have slot more options if you have developer mode active whilst browsing through the setup menus.. Especially with device connections!!
But all in all I think I just want a normal android rom that will look like every other android menus but will utilise this devices nice hardware specs considering it bang for your buck price point!!
Sometimes you have to relise expectations and reality get clouded by hope...
Need Link to firmware - Oppo R15 Pro for latest Android P Beta
I happened to have the Chinese version (I believe). Can anyone post the link to the firmware being discussed on here?
look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view
Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.
Vyviel said:
Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.
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ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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Because the Pixel phones are an absolute ripoff for mediocre hardware. Google lost their way after the Nexus 6P.
Next time I will go for a OnePlus =)
Is it possible to use new android P on the ' OPPO R15 ' ? (not the pro version)
my phone (oppo r15) runs on color os 5.0 so i thought i could update the android version to ' Android P ' so that the chinese version will be gone.. so i can finally use the google app and services, guys does it work on the oppo r15?
Yeah i'm wanting to know this as well! ColourOS seems to be a pretty big limitation although judging on the firmware difference (CPH1835 vs CPH1831) i'm unsure if i can flash Android P yet.. anyone have a definitive answer?
Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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i believe it's because of the money...
I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.
ULAMSS5 said:
I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.
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Me too,can r15 Pro get in pixel experience or asop?
liliu said:
look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view
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sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta
con_sau_may_tinh said:
sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta
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now you can get Coloros 6(https://www.coloros.com/topic/coloros6.html)
which has completely different UI from Coloros5.2/5.0, enough of too many bugs in Android P beta also , but things got changed now
They sure are taking their time with coloros 6. Im reading it should have been released in May but still nothing confirmed. I will never buy an oppo again as this is bad. Android Q (10) will be released soon and oppo is struggling to release android 9. What a joke.
Agreed #perryano. Their hardware is fantastic, but this ColorOS BS just destroys the whole experience and controls everything you want to do like the PRC. If I could just run vanilla Android, I would be a happy camper.

A shortlist for my next phone, and two questions

Hey there,
I recently posted here about looking for a new phone on a budget. I'm happy to say that after a few weeks I've narrowed down my options to a shortlist of 10, using gsmarena to compare specs. I'm now at a point where I need to fill in the final gaps, but I'm unable to do so without an intimate knowledge of the devices, Android or the Android rooting scene, none of which I have, so so am at the mercy of the community for any further help.
I need to know whether each of the below phones satisfies two specific criteria.
These are the phones that I'm looking at:
- Honor 8
- Honor 8X
- Honor 9 Lite
- Honor 9
- Honor Play
- Huawei P20 Lite
- Motorola Moto G6
- Moto G6 Play
- Motorola Moto G5S
- Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite
For each of them, I'd like to know...
1. Whether it supports split-screen multitasking. Odd as it sounds, one of my biggest reasons for moving to Android is the ability to use YouTube while using other apps, so the phone I buy needs to support it. Based on my research, I have a feeling this is entirely independent of hardware, and that all of these phones should support a high enough Android version to use split-screen, but I'd like to confirm this.
2. The state of the modding/rooting community for the device; how much the phone supports modding and how active the community around it is. The other reason for moving to Android is the ability to customise things to my heart's content, based on the criteria outlined here. Does the phone in question support Magisk, TWRP, Treble, ElementalX? Are there any modding-related that I should know about it?
Once in again, thanks to anyone who's read through this properly and can answer these questions, it's much appreciated.
Thanks
If you want a rootable phone, drop all Huawei phones from your list

Good Pocophone F1 replacement ?

Hi all,
I'm looking for a new smartphone for everyday use within £300 but no more than that. My main requirements are:
At least 5.5" Screen
Easy Bootloader unlock
LineageOS Support
Decent Selfie/Front Camera
Decent storage (32GB/64GB)
Privacy Screen available for such model
I have done some research and found a couple smartphones that are almost suitable for me.
The list is as follow:
Pocophone F1 - To unlock Pocophone F1 bootloader, I need to register somewhere and wait between 7 to 14 days for some unlock code or something like this. I hate DRM solutions and tactics like this and I'm also a big fan of Open Source so this doesn't fly well with me. Otherwise, it would be suitable.
Moto G7 - This smartphone have became Official for LineageOS recently so I have digged around and it looks like a lottery ticket as unlocking the device is flimsey and you can easily brick your device.
Any recommendations ?
Tankkarer said:
Hi all,
I'm looking for a new smartphone for everyday use within £300 but no more than that. My main requirements are:
At least 5.5" Screen
Easy Bootloader unlock
LineageOS Support
Decent Selfie/Front Camera
Decent storage (32GB/64GB)
Privacy Screen available for such model
I have done some research and found a couple smartphones that are almost suitable for me.
The list is as follow:
Pocophone F1 - To unlock Pocophone F1 bootloader, I need to register somewhere and wait between 7 to 14 days for some unlock code or something like this. I hate DRM solutions and tactics like this and I'm also a big fan of Open Source so this doesn't fly well with me. Otherwise, it would be suitable.
Moto G7 - This smartphone have became Official for LineageOS recently so I have digged around and it looks like a lottery ticket as unlocking the device is flimsey and you can easily brick your device.
Any recommendations ?
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Moto G7 is a joke infront of POCO F1. POCO F1 kills Moto G7 in ever way. If you already have given request for bootloader unlock to any Xiaomi phone before with a mi account, you can use it to unlock bootloader instantly of POCO F1, you can borrow someones or even the 14 days wait is worth infront of buying G7.
I have the G7 Plus which I got when it first came out. Nice phone, very stock android with some good Motorola additions. The camera has OIS, which is something that the Poco doesn't have of course. Having said that, when I got my Poco, the G7 Plus got thrown in a drawer and hasn't been used since.
I'm guessing you're British since you're using £. If that's correct you shouldn't have to wait more than three days to get your unlock code with the Poco. The frustrating bit will be finding a PC/laptop with USB 2 ports only. If you do get the Poco, you'll need a computer with USB 2 ports, a USB 2 hub will work, and make sure it doesn't have the new Ryzen processor. After that you'll be laughing all the way to the bank... Unlocking, rooting, and flashing is a doodle on the Poco...
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Please discuss in one of both threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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China vs Global ROMS

Hello. Im planning to upgrade my phone to a 'gaming phone'. Which as follows:
Red Magic 6, Lenovo Legion Duel 2, Xiaomi mi 11 Pro, Asus ROG 5, Black shark 4 pro?
The main problem is with software updates. From what I can find online, about 3 of the 5 phones listed, have really bad support. Pretty sure some older models are still stuck on android 9 and 10 on the global versions. While on the CN version, they are regularly updated.
So I was wondering if I could use the CN ROM instead, if support for the global ROM dont exist. If anyone with experience could share the pros and cons or insights, it would greatly appreciated.
Sorry if I sound really noob, because when it comes to mods and stuff, I have no experience at all. I would have gone the easier route with samsung, but these phones have specs that I am interested in trying out. Just that it would suck if I missed out on future android updates, like android 12 or something.
Thanks yall.
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Makø said:
Hello. Im planning to upgrade my phone to a 'gaming phone'. Which as follows:
Red Magic 6, Lenovo Legion Duel 2, Xiaomi mi 11 Pro, Asus ROG 5, Black shark 4 pro?
The main problem is with software updates. From what I can find online, about 3 of the 5 phones listed, have really bad support. Pretty sure some older models are still stuck on android 9 and 10 on the global versions. While on the CN version, they are regularly updated.
So I was wondering if I could use the CN ROM instead, if support for the global ROM dont exist. If anyone with experience could share the pros and cons or insights, it would greatly appreciated.
Sorry if I sound really noob, because when it comes to mods and stuff, I have no experience at all. I would have gone the easier route with samsung, but these phones have specs that I am interested in trying out. Just that it would suck if I missed out on future android updates, like android 12 or something.
Thanks yall.
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I think global roms are better than China roms here's why
First reason why global roms has google apps pre-installed
While china roms only have google apps installed on older china roms devices the newer phones with china rom does not have google apps pre-installed u could try flashing a custom rom to get google Apps pre-installed but I don't know exactly if it's gonna work
Second reason why global rom Is better is the bugs
On china rom their more bugs than global rom
Third reason why it's better is how it feels global roms feels better than China roms because global rom feels faster than China rom

Question this phone will have many custom rom/ development?

Hi, I like the phone but also I want to put some tweaks like 90hz display, custom roms, pixel 6 camera features(motion mode), kernels...
will we see a lot of development as in the xiaomi poco f1 or not?
thank you
If you have a Xaomi, i recommend keeping it a little longer. Roms for this devive are in a weird situation because the only 2 stable ones are calyx and graphene which arevboth great, but they are both very barebones and kind of difficult if you aren't experienced with degoogling
Twilightsparklez said:
If you have a Xaomi, i recommend keeping it a little longer. Roms for this devive are in a weird situation because the only 2 stable ones are calyx and graphene which arevboth great, but they are both very barebones and kind of difficult if you aren't experienced with degoogling
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thank you, but with the same cpu as pixel 6 and 6 pro, it will be easy to port roms from pixel 6?
charly30 said:
thank you, but with the same cpu as pixel 6 and 6 pro, it will be easy to port roms from pixel 6?
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Yes, adding Bluejay is possible. Whether developers choose to do it is another question.
Velocity will be ready for public release soon. I'm just buttoning up a few more things.
I noticed with the phones I've own, custom ROM seem to get me frequent as the phone gets older and the stock rom releases begin to vaporize. If the phone has enuff hardware power n memory AND there's no more factory support (as in many older midrange Motos). The Moto G5+ and G5S+ had active 'post' communities as did the G6...I got a G7 cuz of 4gb memory figured it'd be a big post EOL project/rom phone BUT I missed the fact that moto was following google with the whole dynamic update w/ dual A/B slots which killed our beloved TWRP custom recovery and nandrive image backup.
BUT is u weren't into rooting/tweaking then that explains why Android Police named it the #1 phone for running LOS! Esp. after Moto released thr Android 10 kernel source code!! This is the main reason I didn't sell/trade it off...and ofc my wife put one of those sky-blue 2pc cases from Poetic and claimed it! lol

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