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Hello all! Quick questions for you :)

Hi all guys!
I am considering to get the Nokia 7 however I am still not 100% sure because of the non-localization it provides. I would appreciate if you could answer some of my questions to help me out decide:
1. Is the stock rom multilanguage? If not, is there a multilanguage rom to be flashed?
2. What about the band 20 (800mhz)? Did anyobody realize if it is a hardware limitation or only software (i see that in a few Xiaomi devices like the Mi 5c they managed to unlock it). Is anybody working on it?
3. What should one do to localize it in Europe? Installing Playstore, G services and gapps?
Basically, would you recommend it as a good buy in Europe? I really like it more than the Nokia 7+ because of its form factor.
Thanks to all of those who will help me out

Hi Andy, I bought it on LightintheBox, I did not know the phone, but I got it anyway because I liked it. Now I need China Rom to enable updates from HMD GLOBAL. They told me it's Global version, but it's really raw as an operating system. This Global version does not update. For now is not good for Europe without updates. I'm living in Italy so there is no band 20 (800mhz).

Hi Andy,
I brought mine from coolicool last month and
1. yes, it does come with a multilanguage rom... which cannot be stock because that is chinese+english only. upon startup the phone lapses into an endless "checking for updates" cycle but it can be circumvented (see above topic) after which it works normally.
2. B20 (800mhz) does not seem to be supported by the hardware. that said, the phone works flawlessy on both 3G and 4G (vodafone), handles wifi and data well, comes with google's basics installed and downdoads/updates apps via playstore as it should.
3. based on my (limited) experience, i do recommend it.
pros: well designed and built, runs smoothly, no bloatware, bargain for USD 250
cons: not exactly international (might not see the android 8 update already out for the chinese version), system takes up 17GB (!) of internal memory

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Hi all guys!
I am considering to get the Nokia 7 however I am still not 100% sure because of the non-localization it provides. I would appreciate if you could answer some of my questions to help me out decide:
1. Is the stock rom multilanguage? If not, is there a multilanguage rom to be flashed?
2. What about the band 20 (800mhz)? Did anyobody realize if it is a hardware limitation or only software (i see that in a few Xiaomi devices like the Mi 5c they managed to unlock it). Is anybody working on it?
3. What should one do to localize it in Europe? Installing Playstore, G services and gapps?
Basically, would you recommend it as a good buy in Europe? I really like it more than the Nokia 7+ because of its form factor.
Thanks to all of those who will help me out
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hi i bought a nokia 7 global rom from china and the rom causes a lot of problems .So i advise you to go for the chinese/english version and get ota updates and install google play apk file.Now i have flashed back to stock firmware(chinese/english) and now the phone works properly on android 8.1.0. .About band 20 i think is working
here in sweden as far as i know.I think it is a good buy if it is on stock rom(chinese/english) version so good luck

Oppo r15 Pro Android P

Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.

Yeah, I have it running on mine, but it's the first beta, so a bunch of stuff isn't working, hoping they will release a new rom soon...

What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705

Vyviel said:
What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705
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Hey there Vyviel,
I have the Oppo R15 Pro CPH1831 also and purchased it outright from JB HiFi a couple of weeks back now - carrier is Telstra.
This is my very first Android device after having shifted over from a 6s Plus... I will say that I personally don't mind this ColorOS business ATM but then again I am unfamiliar with any of this custom ROM business... You are right about the hardware though... for let's say $600 AUD less than the Samsung Galaxy S9 it stands pretty tall in the spec department for the price of $779.
I am also in IT... that is to say that I have been tinkering now for about 15 years and at present I have 4 and a half units remaining on my Bachelor of IT degree.
Like yourself... I have not flashed a custom ROM, rooted an Android based device or recovered back to out of the box state in case one might need to get that all important warranty back in the game if the process manages to kick you in the proverbial sack... so we are in the same boat in not wanting to create a mid range in the expense scale paperweight.
I would really like to know how to do all of this in the safest way possible though and to be quite honest am finding it somewhat difficult to find a great deal of info on this phone.
I'm willing to share a few links that I have found in relation to flashing a ROM on one of these things if you wanna send me a PM (I'm unsure of the legalities of posting links here as I have only just joined XDA)... I'm not 100% sure of what to trust when it comes to the links (one is a Vietnamese site I believe) and all of these processes in general but it would be good to get a second opinion.
Anyways... this post is starting to read a bit like a book so I'll leave it at that for now.
Cheers mate
PS: Nothing against the Vietnamese people intended whatsoever - peace out

shayne77 said:
Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.
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You aren't only here buddy, tried flashing my phone as well. Didn't work, got the same error. I think it's for the Chinese version of the phone, I'm not entirely sure.

Agreed, bought phone outright. No carrier/network lock. I've had it a week and also I am over the colour os!! I have had a bit of trouble with compatibility with my other home devices like screen mirroring, cloning/switching device data, Wi-Fi stabilisation etc... But have discovered that most option menus change and have slot more options if you have developer mode active whilst browsing through the setup menus.. Especially with device connections!!
But all in all I think I just want a normal android rom that will look like every other android menus but will utilise this devices nice hardware specs considering it bang for your buck price point!!
Sometimes you have to relise expectations and reality get clouded by hope...

Need Link to firmware - Oppo R15 Pro for latest Android P Beta
I happened to have the Chinese version (I believe). Can anyone post the link to the firmware being discussed on here?

look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view

Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.

Vyviel said:
Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.
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ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?

Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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Because the Pixel phones are an absolute ripoff for mediocre hardware. Google lost their way after the Nexus 6P.
Next time I will go for a OnePlus =)

Is it possible to use new android P on the ' OPPO R15 ' ? (not the pro version)
my phone (oppo r15) runs on color os 5.0 so i thought i could update the android version to ' Android P ' so that the chinese version will be gone.. so i can finally use the google app and services, guys does it work on the oppo r15?

Yeah i'm wanting to know this as well! ColourOS seems to be a pretty big limitation although judging on the firmware difference (CPH1835 vs CPH1831) i'm unsure if i can flash Android P yet.. anyone have a definitive answer?

Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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i believe it's because of the money...

I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.

ULAMSS5 said:
I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.
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Me too,can r15 Pro get in pixel experience or asop?

liliu said:
look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view
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sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta

con_sau_may_tinh said:
sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta
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now you can get Coloros 6(https://www.coloros.com/topic/coloros6.html)
which has completely different UI from Coloros5.2/5.0, enough of too many bugs in Android P beta also , but things got changed now

They sure are taking their time with coloros 6. Im reading it should have been released in May but still nothing confirmed. I will never buy an oppo again as this is bad. Android Q (10) will be released soon and oppo is struggling to release android 9. What a joke.

Agreed #perryano. Their hardware is fantastic, but this ColorOS BS just destroys the whole experience and controls everything you want to do like the PRC. If I could just run vanilla Android, I would be a happy camper.

Professional advice Pls!!

Hello World!
My beloved friends, i am looking for someone who can recommend me a good awesome chines brand Global version Unlocked Smartphone with 6" + 1080-4k Full HD display that is both root' erble and will allow me to install custom apps and beautiful custom roms that many of hard working XDA developers have developed.
I have been thinking to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X and a Xiaomi mi Mix 3 ram from 8-10 and storage 128-256GB.
Since many of the Umidigi customers been screwed over few times by the Umidigi company, and as their customer my self we all had difficulties with both updates and encrypted boot on the devices that forced us to use UmiOS that was their own custom made rip off Android OS.
The phone never got a stable update version and many time the Umidigi support did not answer our question, many got angry and said foul language out of frustration, and they ware told to shut up or Umidigi would ban them to write on the forum ever again.
So i am looking for a android enthusiast who know a good stable smartphone and awesome support, no way to brick and can easily be flashed back to the stock rom.
So please, anyone out there that owns a killer flagship unlocked Global version smartphone with awesome battery that keep the phone alive, with a price tag from 300-600 Euro that works smoothly without any crashing apps and annoying boot wait time and impossible fastboot that keeps the device locked in from the great options that there is out there.
Please write me your recommendation and tell me why you recommended me that specific phone. and why you disagree with me to get a one+ T6, or a Oppo Find X, Xiaomi mi Mix 3.
thank you very much for your efforts!

How to know if a Realme phone has Chinese ROM or Global ROM

How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)

LeHalua said:
How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
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There is barely any difference between the two but Chinese Rom is different because it's codename isn't Realme 5 Pro but Realme Q. It's almost impossible not to notice. If you had Chinese rom in settings about phone there would be Realme Q under model label, not realme 5 pro. Furthermore in case you didn't notice that there would be preinstalled Chinese market and apps and less or none Google stuff.
LeHalua said:
Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
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On stock rom go to settings and about phone.
LeHalua said:
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
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If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
Except if you're a very advanced user like me. There are tiny differences between Chinese model hardware and global hardware so you shouldn't worry. There are two key differences (which I think are rather hardcoded than hardware limitation). One is that Chinese Realme Q has smaller system partition size for Chinese rom uses less storage because missing Google stuff. Other is global and Chinese variant modem antenna seems to support different 4G bands. Obviously Realme Q supports bands that are frequently used in China while global supports bands that are used in worldwide. This means Realme Q hardware is limited thus doesn't support European B7 and B20 4G bands.
LeHalua said:
Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
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I don't know about such method.
LeHalua said:
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)
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Yes. And more obvious.
Chinese market>Realme Q (RMX1971CN)
Global>Realme 5 Pro(RMX1971EX)
But don't bother trying to find device codenames with non-root apps. They don't make a difference between RMX1971CN and RMX1971EX.
Some extra info and details:
I ordered a Realme Q from China via AliExpress last October. Since then I'm using my device in Europe, Hungary and I'm in love with it. All the technical details I shared are results of personal testing and debugging. I'll tell you why you shouldn't worry about a Realme Q sold as a Realme 5 Pro.
If a seller wanted to do this for some reason they'd need to ask for official bootloader unlock from Realme. After getting the unlock approval (which isn't nearly sure for monthly unlock cap is 1000 device) they'd need to flash a custom recovery on it and clean flash a Realme 5 Pro global rom on the device. Fastboot flashing doesn't always work with this method. Furthermore because Realme Q system partition isn't as big as Realme 5 Pro's there would be complications.
After successfully flashing Global rom on the device the seller would need to flash back stock recovery and relock bootloader. This would likely confuse the device and cause bootloop. This whole procedure is timely, lots of effort required and some serious skill. As conclusion it is totally pointless and not worth it for any seller. The procedure is nearly the same on Xiaomi devices. So such logic applies there as well.

greenys' said:
If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
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In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?

LeHalua said:
In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?
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The more I know. No bigge. I try my best. I barely know anything about Color OS for I'm a real pure android lover thus ditched Cos after 3 days. I can't really comment on these features.

Thoughts on Revolution OS

While I was going through some videos, came across Revolution OS. Wanted to get a bit more information regarding the custom MIUI ROM, but found none on XDA. So, went ahead and tried it, seems like it is a ported Android 10 MIUI 12 for Redmi Note 5 Pro, from Note 7. Not really buggy, but the devices heats up and the camera quality can be considered bad compared to other available ROMs. Overall available ram and animation speed seemed much better compared to Xioami.eu rom. Might need a bit more fixes here and there, before it can be considered a better alternative.
So, wanted to hear more about other people's experience regarding this particular rom.

Never knew about Android 10 port. Thanks for the info. I'll try it.

Revolution OS is a Spanish ROM with features mixed from Global and China Developer ROMs. It's very carefully tested to avoid issues within the users, and it has a strict policy about bug reporting or testing. Currently, that Android 10 ROM, with MIUI 12, is a port from Redmi Note 7, adapted to the peculiarities of Note 5 Pro. It will be improved over time, only it's a preliminary version.