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[Q] MultiTasking broken after day of use (or memory leak?)

Hello everybody.
first of all i just want to mention that im really happy with the phone, especially after moving from galaxy s3 with its horrendous memory tasker and RAM.
ive noticed a problem thats been really bothering me:
after a day of use , maybe more, there seems to be a lot less memory available for the device, resulting in chrome/chrome beta reloading every time that i go back to it, even without performing any actions or loading new apps - simply moving to whatsapp for example and back to chrome - Bang! the browser reloads. I want to emphasize that this is not the normal behavior for chrome, as this does not occur after a fresh restart.
When i go to services running, there is about 800mb of ram left, but when i go to ES task manager, there is only 400mb, i dunno the cause for this difference, but i do know that despite disliking task managers very much , Pressing "Kill ALL" will restore the desired behavior for a while (no reloads).
I tried to root the phone and install Greenify , but this doesnt seem to be helping.
did anyone notice any similar behavior? thanks.

In my experience, chrome and chrome beta are huge memory hogs and refresh quite often no matter what. For that reason, I stay away from it and stick with the aosp browser. It's fast and light.
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i understand what you're saying - but im referring to the data displayed by es task manager (having a lot less memory than reported) and also to the fact that after a reboot , or closing all task, the phone does have enough memory to come back to chrome without reloading it .
notice im not complaining about the memory used by chrome, also having more than 500MB of RAM left should be enough anyway no?
also - as far as i know AOSP browser is no longer supported, no?

I've also experienced this on my N5. Sometimes when switching away from chrome and then back again, even briefly, will cause the web page to refresh. This is extremely annoying especially when you're on a internet banking page which will require you to re-login.

daisun said:
I've also experienced this on my N5. Sometimes when switching away from chrome and then back again, even briefly, will cause the web page to refresh. This is extremely annoying especially when you're on a internet banking page which will require you to re-login.
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this is exactly what im experiencing.
however, since it doesnt happen after restart or killing all apps, it is somehow memory related, but with having 800mb free, i dont really understand the issue :/

Surely the Android devs at google use internet banking, hopefully a fix arrives soon...!

I nerfed chrome as its so messed I cant even use it also drains batter like no tommarow it was always reloading for me to I went to opera it has working word wrap and way less draw on batter.

This has anyways happened to me. Since gal nexus, n4, n5, and n7. /shrug. Maybe it's a nexus thing? I thought this happened on all devices with chrome.
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I've had S4 and N4 and it certainly doesn't happen, at least not from switching away from chrome and back again within a few seconds. But those devices were on Android 4.3.

frigidazzi said:
This has anyways happened to me. Since gal nexus, n4, n5, and n7. /shrug. Maybe it's a nexus thing? I thought this happened on all devices with chrome.
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It happens on galaxy s3 but that device has 1gb of memory with only 100mb or less available usually . nexus 5 even at its worst state has more than 500MB, so it def. shouldnt happen.

After side loading the 4.4.1 update (got tired of waiting for the ota) the chrome reloading seems to be fixed! I've only done brief testing but it looks promising.

Google Search keeping phone awake?

Google search seems to be keeping my phone awake and destroying my battery.
Using the GEL, my phone was awake any time my launcher was active. Switching to Nova, it seems this issue is mitigated, however if I ever go to use the search app (or Now), it initiates the battery rape-fest.
Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I know lots of people here have their data and/or wifi enabled/connected 24/7, so it may not effect them.
I'm linking photos stored in my DB account showing some of these battery drains.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhw1f4prbneyg45/2013-12-26 06.19.30.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gfhr2vf1z5kf4tw/2013-12-26 06.19.24.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0f506skwf26q3se/2013-11-27 01.43.17.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ky7yjo2628p1ngl/2013-11-27 01.43.22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dr0e2jjswt52mce/2013-11-27 01.43.26.png
The periods of no signal is when I'm at work - there's no service out here so I might as well have it on airplane mode.
Unfortunately, I really like the GEL, and was hoping that there'd be an easy fix to this. Switching run times doesn't help. I'm currently on ART.
Any advice is helpful.

Do you have hot word detection on? If so then it off that could be triggering it it solved the issue I had with it
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Once or twice Search would keep my phone awake and drain the battery. Something to do with toggling some Location settings on or off.
Force stopping the application fixed the issue for me each time once I noticed it on my battery list.

bblzd said:
Once or twice Search would keep my phone awake and drain the battery. Something to do with toggling some Location settings on or off.
Force stopping the application fixed the issue for me each time once I noticed it on my battery list.
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Hmm I also had this problem and also was tinkering with location settings the other night... interesting. If it starts acting up I'll force stop it.

I wanted to disable or uninstall Google Now and Google search and it wiped my homescreen

kevtrysmoddin said:
Do you have hot word detection on? If so then it off that could be triggering it it solved the issue I had with it
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This was the first thing i thought of. I turned it off, no change.
bblzd said:
Once or twice Search would keep my phone awake and drain the battery. Something to do with toggling some Location settings on or off.
Force stopping the application fixed the issue for me each time once I noticed it on my battery list.
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My issue is that I shouldn't have to force stop it. Why is it running wild? This is a Google application, shouldn't this be near flawless?
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new ion? said:
This was the first thing i thought of. I turned it off, no change.
My issue is that I shouldn't have to force stop it. Why is it running wild? This is a Google application, shouldn't this be near flawless?
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I just know it's a pretty easy fix (force stop or reboot) so not a huge deal IMO.
If I had to guess Search is trying to look up some location information which it can't currently access. Instead of stopping it just keeps trying forever. I've yet to see the issue since disabling Locations completely and experienced the issue only with partial location services enabled.
My advice would be to leave Location services completely on or completely off. It may effect those with locations on, but either reporting or history (or both) off.
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Oooo, apparently I had history on and reporting off. I'll try turning both off and letting search run for a bit tomorrow, I'll see what happens. If it comes down to it, I'll submit a bug report.
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shouldn't be an issue
I have been having the same identical issue as you guys. I have found shockingly little in my searches, which I've been doing periodically for the last few months, really, since I've had the phone(12/5/13).
Now for the particulars :
I have a nexus 5. I'm running the stock ROM and kernel via OTA (4.4.2).
I am rooted (via wugfresh's toolkit) and I have the xposed framework installed along with only a couple of modules, (gravitybox, bootmanager).
Now all this means I am essentially bone stock which means since its a nexus 5 I have the GEL launcher by default and I love it and the setup in general, (my favorite setup so far of all my phones, nexi and other).
Now I've been fortunate and have never really needed to track down and eliminate software causing battery decimating "wakelocks" on any of my devices. And apparently the newer versions of KitKat make finding and solving wake lock issues difficult using apps developed for the purpose.
If I were to upload screenshots of my battery screen when the issue is presenting itself, Google search is up in the top five at least. And when I click it for details it shows similar readouts to what's been posted by OP in his screenshots.
I can't be the only one having serious issues with wakelocks cause by Google search on their nexus 5 and I'm baffled by the lack of discussion I've been able to find regarding this issue, (my google-fu is in my opinion at least up to par)
Whenever I notice my battery draining faster than normal without fail I go into my battery settings and discover that my phone is awake constantly regardless of screen-on time and the culprit is always exclusively Google search. Now its far from difficult to force stop the app and go about my business. And it usually doesn't cause me any issues for a time once that's been done. However, the unpredictability of the Google search app causing a crippling wake lock is for me the main issue as it means I cannot leave my phone unattended for more than a few hours without the possibility of coming back to my phone with my battery that's been molested. The battery in my opinion is more than acceptable and I quite like it. However the uncertainty is horrible.
I've read through the posts In this thread (regrettably few) and I have not been able to make a correlation between location services being on in any of the three modes and Google search wakelocking my ****. Also, I use Google Now all the time every day, and hotword detection is always on to call it up from the home screen by voice which i use even more so. So in my opinion while it is possible I'm sure that somewhere in all that there is a trigger for the issue, it is by no means predictable and in my experience never reproducible.
Now, for the "Google Search" app to cause a wake lock that will persist until the apps been manually force stopped, completely unpredictably represents a HUGE BUG that un-does all of the amazing work with our chipset and kernel and os that gives us such great battery life without having to sacrifice clock speed via custom min/max settings or governor controls.
I just don't get it. This is the first time I've ever encountered such a glaring problem/bug with so little complaint or even discussion.
I think we all should submit official bug- reports to Google about this issue and start being vocal in all of the android communities. I very very rarely comment or post as I am always able to make do by searching and reading diligently. But this blows my mind, the lack of posts and discussion would normally suggest this is a very limited problem affecting a very small minority. But I don't buy that. My set up is too stock, too close to the largest percentage of nexus 5 users to be so. Maybe people are just force stopping the app and forgetting about it, chalking it up to something they've personally done to their phone because "how could Google search be doing this to everyone else". I don't know. But this has to be more widespread of an issue than search results are indicating.
In summation: what OP said lol. But I don't think it has anything to do with what's been suggested by other posters on this thread. Their suggestions may work, and they may mitigate the issue. But if that is the case. Than this a very huge bug that threatens to undo all of the amazing work that's been done with aosp regarding battery efficiency and optimization.
- FerrousState
PS. Let's get some real discussion going in this community and all the others. Smarter people than us should be working on this - Top men guys, TOP MEN!

Hey guys I have this problem as well. I can't view the pics in OP but Google search is running at about 14%
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Brockg said:
Hey guys I have this problem as well. I can't view the pics in OP but Google search is running at about 14%
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Tap Google search in your battery and check how long it's kept your phone awake. Then back, and check again. If the seconds just got higher it's currently eating your battery and needs to be force stopped.
Any suggestions are just to mitigate the problem for now of course. Hopefully it's being worked on.
I've yet to see the issue again but I have Locations and Hot Word off, Google Now on. I strongly believe using either "device only" or turning off the 2 settings within Locations can act as a temporary fix however.

5.1.1 still aggressively kills common apps

This is super frustrating.
I knew that Android 5.0 had issues, because prior to 5.0, my LG G3 never ONCE closed out a chrome tab while I was playing podcasts.. After I got to 5.0.2, I had problems with the browser being closed when in the background AND I had about 5 other apps I was actively switching between... though I had to leave the browser in the background for a good 5-10 minutes before anything bad happened.
Things are quite different on the S6 Edge, and there's no improvement moving to 5.1.1 -- at all. In fact, it might be worse.
I've gotten in the habit of rebooting my phone every 4-5 hours to help combat this, but it's still infuriating.
Common examples:
- I get in my car, start Escort Live, start playing music on Spotify, then load up a route in google Maps. Within 3-5 minutes, Escort Live will close in the background without warning. Sometimes Spotify closes as well, simultaneously. Sometimes maps will close.
- Playing a podcast in Chrome, sometimes just hitting the home key will kill what I'm listening to.
I've exhausted my search efforts looking for some way to keep these apps alive. There's no legitimate reason to ever close Maps, Escort Live, Torque, Spotify, or a Chrome tab playing audio. What's going on here? I know that it was widely established that 5.0.2 still had this issue, but rumors were circulating that things were fixed after 5.0.3+. This is noticeably worse that my LG G3. It basically eliminates the ability to multi-task.
Does anyone have any tips to fixing this? Currently I am not rooted, because I wanted to see if 5.1.1 would help out with this issue.
Thanks!

wow...this is unfortunate news to hear. I was holding out hopes that 5.1.1 would finally allow the edge to shine as the phone it should have been. sounds like there's still a long ways to go. Wish I wasn't still waiting for the damn OTA....sigh..

Maybe you could use Smart Switch to upgrade? Not sure what version it provides...

We just need CM12 lol.
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jkt97401 said:
We just need CM12 lol.
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I'm wondering if I can create an init.d script to have an app stay running. I'd chkconfig on using tasker or whatever. Probably need root for that.

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63268027
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can i make certain apps force my screen to stay awake?

It's been a while since I owned a Android and I just moved over to honor 8 from an iPhone.
On my iPhone certain apps forced the screen to stay awake, mostly gps apps and also pokemon go which my gf plays all the time on my phone.
Pokemon go also uses the gps so I'm guessing it's all related to the gps or video since that's another situation where the screen stays awake longer.
So, is this possible on Android and on honor 8?
Changing the autolock is not what I'm looking for since that changes it in all apps and outside of apps.
Thnx

Take a Look an Tasker-App.
Maybe it will give you the solution.

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Take a Look an Tasker-App.
Maybe it will give you the solution.
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You talking about the app called 'tasker' from 'crafty apps eu' in the play store that's about $3?
EDIT: Ok, it took me a while to get it sorted and to figure out why it stopped working all the time (it was the battery saving process that kept killing it's permissions)
But now it's working like a charm.
Thank you so much, I never even knew this app existed. I haven't fully figured it out yet but I can see huge potential in it.
Every Android user should definitely have it installed.
This is a bit off-topic, but do you know any other extremely useful apps like this?
Thnx again.

Do you have the same "bugs"?

So I have had my Honor View 10 just over a month now. Overall I really like it. However, there are a few minor bugs(?) that I am finding quite annoying, but have not seen any other mention of them. Was just wondering if anyone else has experienced any of these? And if so, how have you managed to overcome them?
1) Home screen widgets not updating
So I am using Nova launcher, as I have done for quite some time before getting this phone. One problem that I have found is that my widgets are not updating. E.g. Keep list still shows items that have been ticked off and Agenda Widget won't clear past days and bring in extra days as they fall into the 30 day window. I don't know if this is specifically an issue with Nova or other 3rd party launchers on this device, or if this happens on the stock launcher too. I have set all the related apps, including everything Nova, to be manually manged in the battery launch options, but have seen no improvement. I only seem to be able to force them to update by either removing and replacing the widgets or by restarting the phone.
2) Wallpaper not updating
I use Muzei with a Bing daily wallpaper plugin to change my wallpaper daily. Well, that was the plan anyway. Occasionally it will change automatically, but many days it will not and I have to force it manually. Again, I have set the launch options for Muzei and the plugin to be manually managed, but with no change.
3) Bluetooth loses music control ability
I use my phone to listen to music via bluetooth to my car stereo. The audio has never failed, but what frequently happens is that I will lose the ability to control the music from the bluetooth device. I.e. pause, play and skip tracks. When this happens I have to reboot my phone to get that function back. How long it takes for this to happen varies. Can be after just a day or after several days. I have experimented with changing how I disconnect from the bluetooth device, but this has no impact. Also, I occasionally get the audio breaking up, so that it sounds like a skipping CD.
I feel like there is something else that I am forgetting, so will post when/if I remember.
Thanks.

I use Nova too. Some widgets get (most of the time) updated, others not.
When I restart Nova (by the settings in the app), updates works for a unspecified amount of time.
I think this is a downside of the not (really) manageable Ram/Battery management from Emui8.
Also Google Fit is not usable for tracking a path. It looses the GPS access a couple minutes after the screen turn off. Only with the locus app im able to do tracking.
If there is no solution for this, I have to buy an other phone :crying:

Widgets not updating appears to be an EMUI thing - I had a Mate 10 before this phone and had exactly the same issue.

Thanks both. I did eventually find the following thread (funnily enough in the Mate 10 forum)... https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/widgets-stop-updating-t3703572
As I have no other need to root my phone, I don't really fancy doing so in order to freeze the system process that some have had success with. It was highlighted that this appears to specifically be an issue with scrolling widgets within EMUI 8, which seems to fit with my experience, and is also apparently present in the stock launcher. I have for now switched Nova to auto rotate, as then rotating the home screen appears to refresh all widgets. Bit of a rubbish workaround, but does work.
I haven't got any further with the daily wallpaper issue, and currently have to manually update.
The issue that I couldn't remember before is that when sending SMS via MightyText the sent SMS doesn't appear on my phone. However, this appears to be a problem across all recent EMUI devices for which there doesn't appear to be any reasonable fix. Let's hope Google hurries up with adding web messaging to their Messages app, and then that can become my default SMS app.
Is there any official Huawei/Honor community where we, their customers, can log bug fix requests?

I have the widget update problem. It's a right pain for the news ones I mainly use. Tried auto rotate in Nova on BBC Sport and that didn't work. The update icon/button gets stuck, constantly swirling.
If I keep the phone I'll probably root since, looking at other Huawei phone's threads, my confidence in them fixing it any time soon is pretty low.

As I've had this issue on the Mate 10 as well - this is an annoying issue that Huawei don't seem to want to fix.
I've also noted a silly amount of permission setting (in some really random places) so allow things to run in the background. It can be in more than one place. I don't know what the Chinese obsession with background app killing is, but this means my phone often doesn't tell me I have messages or emails until I unlock it. My bluetooth trackers and Huawei Watch don't sync.
Might be time to move to a Xiaomi or Oneplus.

white43 said:
As I've had this issue on the Mate 10 as well - this is an annoying issue that Huawei don't seem to want to fix.
I've also noted a silly amount of permission setting (in some really random places) so allow things to run in the background. It can be in more than one place. I don't know what the Chinese obsession with background app killing is, but this means my phone often doesn't tell me I have messages or emails until I unlock it. My bluetooth trackers and Huawei Watch don't sync.
Might be time to move to a Xiaomi or Oneplus.
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TBH you might go from one set of annoyances to another with these brands. All OEMs seem too busy adding gimmicky features rather than concentrating on getting the basics right. You can get more bog standard than properly working widgets!
Huawei seem to have (unnecessarily) doubled down on Android's battery optimisations and permissions. From what was some years ago a bit of a Wild West in these areas, it's now gone far to far the other way.
I had an OP5T for a few days, loved it but OLED screen gave my eyes/head grief. So anything OLED is probably a no-no for me.
G6 I had briefly last year, just didn't get on with it and the screen had really uneven brightness. LG seem incapable of getting phones right these days.
Anyway, I'll persist for now. I'm happy to root just for AdAway and Titanium Pro.

After having the phone a few weeks now, I can say I've had the same bluetooth issues as the OP. I use Muzecast as a personal music server and randomly lose the ability to pause while on speakers. NB - volume continues to work fine.
Heard the mini skips or glitches too, infrequent but noticeable.