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okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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As far as I can tell, the Ziggy kernel in the latest Gingeritis3D is the smoothest. Might be something newer in the synergy ROM, but I'm getting good battery life and things are nearly lag-free.
I am running OMFGB right now, and while I do prefer AOSP roms, the battery life isn't great. I have an extended battery so the battery life for me isn't an issue.
I agree with the previous post in regards to Gingeritis 3D. I had version VII installed, deleted almost all sense out with Tibu and used ADW EX. It was nice having some sense, lockscreen, pulldown, but that was all I really liked about sense. I oc'd to 1.4 and thought it ran great with excellent battery life.
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I haven't messed with uberBAMF yet. I understand it's a work in progess. I'm not sure what kernel it uses, but it might be worth giving a go. I'd love to think it's NOT a Ziggy or Imoseyon kernel just because I think Sense kernels NEED a LOT more attention.
im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
fixxxer2008 said:
im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
fixxxer2008 said:
i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
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You sure? This one just seems smoother.
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You sure? This one just seems smoother.
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almost 100%
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almost 100%
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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
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its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
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its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
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Wouldn't be surprised knowing how he works.
I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
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I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
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not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
mike.s said:
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
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naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
fixxxer2008 said:
not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
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To make things a little easier for you...
uber-BAMF
fixxxer2008 said:
naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
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Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
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Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
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WTF? You for real?
fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?
Howdy, So I just got my first smart phone a few weeks ago, the AT&T Skyrocket. Kinda odd since I have been in IT works for many years that it took so long but could never afford the upgrade, my cars sap every spare penny lol.
After getting the phone I spent a few days getting to know it and then rooted it so I could use Titanium backup.
Now long story short due to an unrelated issue with ATT they sent me another phone to fix an issue I told them was on their end (and sure enough, it is, I think I figured it out though, anyone else get charged for a text message when the ATT family map "pings" the device?).
So for the time being I have 2 skyrocket phones and figured this was as good a time as any to try out another rom/kernal on the 2nd phone in case I don't like it my phone will remain untouched (I am picky about how my computers are setup).
So that is the history lesson, I have read sooo much the last few weeks it has gave me a good handle on the general process ect. My issue is picking out an actual rom/kernal to use, I have read so much they are all just one big garble of random info and I could use some advice to pick out what would work for me.
Here is what I want out of a rom/Kernal:
Clock speeds/voltages unlocked, I am an oldschool overclocker so naturally I feel everything can be made better.
Better battery life, Right now the battery life is ok but a bit too close for my tastes and I also feel it is just draining too fast for what I am doing (about ~8-10%/Hour average).
Some improvements like the light meter being linear vs having big steps would also be nice, I know the sensor itself can do it from the the screens but the software just goes in steps I guess.
Stable! I want something rock solid stable that I can count on for a long time to come.
Thats about it, The stock rom works fine for my needs minus those complaints. The clock/voltages being the biggest complaint if I had to go with only a kernal to keep a stable ROM.
So what suggestions do ya'll have? Is there by any chance a modded stock rom that is just debloated ect but will still be stable, that would work nice if it helped battery life some combined with a kernal I think.
I don't mind trying a few combos of roms/kernals but only have a week or 2 before I have to send this phone back and would need to fully test each one so I figure I only have time to do that on a handful in that time frame (I am very through)
Rom I have no clue what would work best for me. Kernal the Faux looks pretty good for my goals but I am not sure.
Any advice would be great.
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
Kagenui said:
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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This article sums it up nicely.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
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This article sums it up nicely.
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Thanks for that, I had not seen a list of the features listed out like that before. I think I am starting to see what all the buzz is now.
I plan on flashing the rom/kernel you posted earlier tonight, if anyone else has a suggestion for a follow up combo to try feel free to share!
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
edgex said:
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Ah, yeah that would put that off for a little while. Think I might try it out before returning the phone so at least I know if I am interested in it but just gonna stick with the most stable gingerbread rom for now.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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No, modern = radio. I always flash the radio before the ROM
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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I just flashed the 010m kernel on the stock rom to play with that first and ran into something I am not sure about.
I tried both system tuner and fauxclock, at first everything was working as it should then I noticed that the 2nd core said "offline" and it won't seem to come on no matter what even while running stress tests. Any ideas?
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That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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I tried that, the 2nd core stays offline no matter what I do unless I run setcpu.
I would just run setCPU but then I would not be able to undervolt. I wounder if I could use one of these scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20946429&postcount=574
That would take care of the undervolt and then use setcpu to handle the clock speeds? That would seem to be the best of both worlds.
not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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I tried it but didn't care for it. Still didn't have the profiling options I want. I like the setcpu since I can set it to have different CPU speeds at different times/situations. Maybe that is not worth the power savings. Whats wrong with setcpu?
I also had the same problem with system tuner as well, it would not bring the 2nd core online.
I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?
I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!
CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.
For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.
Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
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For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?
Any one has a solution/workaround for the i/o lag of this tablet?
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Any one has a solution/workaround for the i/o lag of this tablet?
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better kernel --> new scheduler
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better kernel --> new scheduler
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I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
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I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
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Is there a major difference between I/O schedulers?
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I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
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Yes, ROMs like Clean ROm are usually very smooth (though not to my taste) because of a custom kernel.
Drahric said:
Is there a major difference between I/O schedulers?
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Some people would say so, I only notice it during multitasking.
cmendonc2 said:
Yes, ROMs like Clean ROm are usually very smooth (though not to my taste) because of a custom kernel.
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I was thinking of unlocking and installing something like AOKP. I want mostly vanilla android, but stable. I don't need too many crazy things like OC, but just something that runs very smooth and doesn't have major bugs. (Aka: not stock Asus)
mikeosu said:
I was thinking of unlocking and installing something like AOKP. I want mostly vanilla android, but stable. I don't need too many crazy things like OC, but just something that runs very smooth and doesn't have major bugs. (Aka: not stock Asus)
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AOKP is pretty good, but I used it half a year ago so I dont really know how the current stability is ATM. Normally it is very stable.
cmendonc2 said:
AOKP is pretty good, but I used it half a year ago so I dont really know how the current stability is ATM. Normally it is very stable.
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I've tried different custom ROMs already, from CROMi, to CM, to PACMAN, to SlimBean, and now AOKP. So far I am happy with AOKP, the ROM just recently became available for tf300t. All the custom ROMs were better than stock, less lag, but still exibit random 3-5 secs freeze, eg i/o lags, particularly evident when the tablet is awaken from deep sleep, so when the OS is syncing all the services and updates in play store, sometimes the tablet literally halts for 10-15 secs. But so far, AOKP seems to be the best, at least for me.
Thanks for the info. I may just go with that instead of spending the money on a new tablet if it significantly improves it. Figure I should at least try the free route first.
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
rahulpat13 said:
Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
doctor_droid said:
Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
BirchBarlow said:
Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
karabasdutapis said:
So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?