Any one has a solution/workaround for the i/o lag of this tablet?
mlee18 said:
Any one has a solution/workaround for the i/o lag of this tablet?
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better kernel --> new scheduler
cmendonc2 said:
better kernel --> new scheduler
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I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
mikeosu said:
I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
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Is there a major difference between I/O schedulers?
mikeosu said:
I assume most custom ROM's include a better kernal? Would you say that installing a custom ROM typically gives a significant decrease in the lag?
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Yes, ROMs like Clean ROm are usually very smooth (though not to my taste) because of a custom kernel.
Drahric said:
Is there a major difference between I/O schedulers?
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Some people would say so, I only notice it during multitasking.
cmendonc2 said:
Yes, ROMs like Clean ROm are usually very smooth (though not to my taste) because of a custom kernel.
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I was thinking of unlocking and installing something like AOKP. I want mostly vanilla android, but stable. I don't need too many crazy things like OC, but just something that runs very smooth and doesn't have major bugs. (Aka: not stock Asus)
mikeosu said:
I was thinking of unlocking and installing something like AOKP. I want mostly vanilla android, but stable. I don't need too many crazy things like OC, but just something that runs very smooth and doesn't have major bugs. (Aka: not stock Asus)
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AOKP is pretty good, but I used it half a year ago so I dont really know how the current stability is ATM. Normally it is very stable.
cmendonc2 said:
AOKP is pretty good, but I used it half a year ago so I dont really know how the current stability is ATM. Normally it is very stable.
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I've tried different custom ROMs already, from CROMi, to CM, to PACMAN, to SlimBean, and now AOKP. So far I am happy with AOKP, the ROM just recently became available for tf300t. All the custom ROMs were better than stock, less lag, but still exibit random 3-5 secs freeze, eg i/o lags, particularly evident when the tablet is awaken from deep sleep, so when the OS is syncing all the services and updates in play store, sometimes the tablet literally halts for 10-15 secs. But so far, AOKP seems to be the best, at least for me.
Thanks for the info. I may just go with that instead of spending the money on a new tablet if it significantly improves it. Figure I should at least try the free route first.
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I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?
I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!
CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.
For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
Nexus-S said:
I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.
Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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rom cm 10 stable version with kernel matr1x v24
Cm10 with marmite kernel beast
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
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For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?
I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
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I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
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Tring another custom rom can improve the user experience for instance
Some ROMs have a mod to improve the scrolling cache. You can also add some tweaks / features through Xposed, flash a custom kernel and so on... A lot of things to try actually ^^
Hmm better anything to improve performance or smoothness?
a different rom and kernel than cm. i wouldnt ever call cm fast or on top in performance. cm is more bloated then anything else. but if all youre looking for is mods, then cm is good.
Reduce animations, f2fs.
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Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
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Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
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Why? Is other roms drastically faster?
AOSP!
If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
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If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
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It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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jd1639 said:
It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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Not true. Google's ROM is optimized for certain uses, mainly just general use. Different custom ROMs are developed for different types of uses.
One reason there are no best ROM threads allowed. Different users prefer different ROMs because they use their phones in different ways. It is also part of the fun of experimenting. You can see how different ROMs react to your personal usage and most people usually settle with the one that fits them best, except flashaholics. Had my phone less than a month, went through about five ROMs, 4 custom and stock. Finally settled on slimkat as I like the features.
This also holds true for kernels.
If you want a rom that's basically stock with a few improvements in key areas with great performance and batt life, I suggest going Purity Rom + Code Blue. The kernel is optional as it also works well with Franco
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
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Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?
Anyone else feel like after the update the phone is running sluggish? All I have is stock lollipop with twrp, root and Franco kernel. Seems like my kit kat was faster.... Also getting high ram usage, like 1.6 gb...
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Anyone else feel like after the update the phone is running sluggish? All I have is stock lollipop with twrp, root and Franco kernel. Seems like my kit kat was faster.... Also getting high ram usage, like 1.6 gb...
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might be your kernel. Stock rom+kernel combo runs quite fluid for the majority
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might be your kernel. Stock rom+kernel combo runs quite fluid for the majority
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Stock kernel you mean?
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Stock kernel you mean?
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yes, that's the combo i'm using right now and i see no lag whatsoever. I'm satisfied with stock that i even didn't speed up animations to x.5 , which i used to do on all android versions since Jelly Bean.
If you prefer custom kernels, i've had a great experience on kitkat with elementalX, haven't tried it on lollipop yet though.
I'm just saying that one of the changes you made is probably causing the sluggishness, it might not be Franco kernel, but that's a variable you can change for a start and see if there's any difference.
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yes, that's the combo i'm using right now and i see no lag whatsoever. I'm satisfied with stock that i even didn't speed up animations to x.5 , which i used to do on all android versions since Jelly Bean.
If you prefer custom kernels, i've had a great experience on kitkat with elementalX, haven't tried it on lollipop yet though.
I'm just saying that one of the changes you made is probably causing the sluggishness, it might not be Franco kernel, but that's a variable you can change for a start and see if there's any difference.
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Yeh I tried elemental but I was getting poor battery life. Decided to try franco,seems like the same thing except unstable. Sped up the kernel to 1479 or something like that,seems to be a little better now. Let's see I guess.
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Yeh I tried elemental but I was getting poor battery life. Decided to try franco,seems like the same thing except unstable. Sped up the kernel to 1479 or something like that,seems to be a little better now. Let's see I guess.
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the stock CPU clock for each core is 2.26GHz, so 1479 (1.4GHz) is quite a notable underclock, no wonder you are getting sluggish performance. it's like you have activated battery saving mode all the time.
Lollipop is a lot of things but sluggish is certainly not one of them. I'm running N5X which is an AOSP build of 5.0 and it's pretty great. Using the stock kernel with it, I don't like using custom kernels anymore.
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the stock CPU clock for each core is 2.26GHz, so 1479 (1.4GHz) is quite a notable underclock, no wonder you are getting sluggish performance. it's like you have activated battery saving mode all the time.
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It was set to 700 earlier which was even worse....seems to be a bit better now but I think I might go back to stock.
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Lollipop is a lot of things but sluggish is certainly not one of them. I'm running N5X which is an AOSP build of 5.0 and it's pretty great. Using the stock kernel with it, I don't like using custom kernels anymore.
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Yeh,probably going to go back to stock. Less headache for a daily driver.
just got my oneplus over the weekend and i notice most of the custom roms have alot of lag for me. no matter what mods, tweaks or kernels i flash. the scrolling mod fix did help but i just don't feel the device is very smooth coming from my htc m8. any suggestions or thoughts?
More information about your set up. How and where do you experience lag would help.
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More information about your set up. How and where do you experience lag would help.
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Yeah this would really help.
My bacon setup. is really fast with zero lag (better than the M8), so I am not sure what setup you have right now that would be causing this...
Scrolling lag. Opening and closing apps. Just overall sluggish. Right now im on mahdi rom with the auxx kernel. Stock speeds. Zen + smartmax. Tried many other roms and configs. Was even worse when i was on the ak kernel. The only roms that dont lag are the alpha 5.0 roms.
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Scrolling lag. Opening and closing apps. Just overall sluggish. Right now im on mahdi rom with the auxx kernel. Stock speeds. Zen + smartmax. Tried many other roms and configs. Was even worse when i was on the ak kernel. The only roms that dont lag are the alpha 5.0 roms.
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Do you do full wipes between ROMs, and did you have this lag on CM11S before you started going custom?
orangekid said:
Do you do full wipes between ROMs, and did you have this lag on CM11S before you started going custom?
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Yes i always wipe. Might hard reset and flash factory. Start over. See if that helps.
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Yes i always wipe. Might hard reset and flash factory. Start over. See if that helps.
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Yeah that is really odd, I mean I get nothing but smoothness on this phone with pretty much every ROM I've used, currently on the latest Carbon nightly...
My device also lag so much, to the level when there can be 2 sec delay when I scroll on home screen with nothing open (only Google apps installed). The weird thing is when I first got the device is seems ok, then flashed 5.0 Alpha and then a couple of other ROM like PA 4.4.4 and then back to stock. Now even on stock (100%), I am still getting so much lag it is unreal. Some other issues: sound breaks when watching youtube, and sometimes screen freezes and phone reboots.