really ticked, need advice.. - Thunderbolt General

okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.

fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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As far as I can tell, the Ziggy kernel in the latest Gingeritis3D is the smoothest. Might be something newer in the synergy ROM, but I'm getting good battery life and things are nearly lag-free.

I am running OMFGB right now, and while I do prefer AOSP roms, the battery life isn't great. I have an extended battery so the battery life for me isn't an issue.
I agree with the previous post in regards to Gingeritis 3D. I had version VII installed, deleted almost all sense out with Tibu and used ADW EX. It was nice having some sense, lockscreen, pulldown, but that was all I really liked about sense. I oc'd to 1.4 and thought it ran great with excellent battery life.
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I haven't messed with uberBAMF yet. I understand it's a work in progess. I'm not sure what kernel it uses, but it might be worth giving a go. I'd love to think it's NOT a Ziggy or Imoseyon kernel just because I think Sense kernels NEED a LOT more attention.

im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.

fixxxer2008 said:
im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.

loonatik78 said:
The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.

fixxxer2008 said:
i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
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You sure? This one just seems smoother.

loonatik78 said:
You sure? This one just seems smoother.
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almost 100%

fixxxer2008 said:
almost 100%
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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.

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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
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its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.

fixxxer2008 said:
its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
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Wouldn't be surprised knowing how he works.

I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.

DRGilroy said:
I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
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not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.

Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.

mike.s said:
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
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naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.

fixxxer2008 said:
not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
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To make things a little easier for you...
uber-BAMF

fixxxer2008 said:
naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
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Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.

mike.s said:
Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
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WTF? You for real?

fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?

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[KERNEL][28 APR]LorDMod|SMARTASS|BFSv400|CFS|SLQB|UV|1.99GHz|VOL|V DD|SQ LITE3|

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020637
DON'T USE THE ROM, IT IS OUTDATED AND HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED!
DO NOT USE THE "PUV" (Pinky UnderVolt) VERSION, IT WILL CAUSE YOUR DEVICE TO GET STUCK AT THE SPLASHSCREEN! (POSSIBLY)
I DID NOT MAKE THIS KERNEL, I'M JUST POSTING IT HERE FOR YOU ALL.
THIS IS NOT FOR ANY OTHER ROMS BESIDES CM7 (AND CM7-BASED ROMS) AND MIUI, SO DON'T ASK!
I'm using the UUV CFS version. It is very fast and smooth, I urge you not to have an OC past 1.3GHz as a daily driver, unless you want horrible battery life.
Any option below PUV is safe (UUV, -50mV, and -25mV all work, but every device varies).
i didnt think my phone could ever sh*t itself until i flashed this kernal.
dethpikil said:
i didnt think my phone could ever sh*t itself until i flashed this kernal.
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i logged in just to ask you to decrypt that message. what does that mean? bad kernal?
vln004 said:
i logged in just to ask you to decrypt that message. what does that mean? bad kernal?
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lol, iffy kernal. especially with two versions available, its kinda strange testing them and seeing whats best for your phone. flashed the cfs version, and as expected, things seemed evenly smother throughout the phone, yet even at 1.99, there was nothing special or over the top about performance. also, i had a very strange, completely indescribable hiccup after booting.
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tried the bfs version, and still nothing special. maybe its just me and my miui rom. the 1.99 is cool, but i think im just gunna stay away from this.
Been running his kernels for a couple of weeks, no issues. It is nice to be able to choose from different undervolt versions. Helps battery life a little, around 5%-10% in my experience.
NikolaiT, just FYI this kernel works with Ultimate Droid, which is based on CM7. In case you want to update the OP.
henrybravo said:
NikolaiT, just FYI this kernel works with Ultimate Droid, which is based on CM7. In case you want to update the OP.
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+1. Running 4.2 cfs -25 version on UD now. 4.0 was the best battery life ever on any cm7 based roms. Haven't tried the puv version yet, but rest assured I will try and report results..
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dethpikil said:
lol, iffy kernal. especially with two versions available, its kinda strange testing them and seeing whats best for your phone. flashed the cfs version, and as expected, things seemed evenly smother throughout the phone, yet even at 1.99, there was nothing special or over the top about performance. also, i had a very strange, completely indescribable hiccup after booting.
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tried the bfs version, and still nothing special. maybe its just me and my miui rom. the 1.99 is cool, but i think im just gunna stay away from this.
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Hardly "iffy", the differences are stated in the thread or here.
I've been using this kernel with CM7 Final for quite some time now and it's been quite solid.
rasroygbiv said:
+1. Running 4.2 cfs -25 version on UD now. 4.0 was the best battery life ever on any cm7 based roms. Haven't tried the puv version yet, but rest assured I will try and report results..
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Careful, the PUV version softbricked my device. Easily fixable through reflashing your ROM or just a new kernel.
It may not brick yours because some devices can handle it, some can't.
helushune said:
Hardly "iffy", the differences are stated in the thread or here.
I've been using this kernel with CM7 Final for quite some time now and it's been quite solid.
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+1. Not "iffy" at all.
I've been using it for a while now. At the moment I'm using the latest CFS -25 UV version @ 1305 with the scaling set to Intelligent Donkey (lol) and I actually made it an entire day without charging. That's saying a lot for someone that gets about 12 hours max on a charge.
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TheBassman369 said:
I've been using it for a while now. At the moment I'm using the latest CFS -25 UV version @ 1305 with the scaling set to Intelligent Donkey (lol) and I actually made it an entire day without charging. That's saying a lot for someone that gets about 12 hours max on a charge.
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I'm currently pulling two days at 64% with the same kernel but my CPU settings are 122 min - 1075 max.
So what's everyone recommendations for the best version of this Kernel in terms of both optimum battery and performance?
Additionally... what kinds of CPU governors and max-min frequencies are you using? I've seen a few post what their using in this thread, but I'd like to get some more opinions.
I've been using this Kernel for a few weeks now with no issues. The UUV had some slight hesitation when scrolling so now I'm running 4.3 CFS with the -50 UV and it's absolutely perfect. Fantastic battery life running at 122/1305 MHz with the -50 UV.
i'm using 4.2 and I didn't flash any scripts... is the default -25UV? I'm gonna try 4.3 and -50 script later tonight.
quick question to the group: what is eating up your battery? mine, oddly enough is cell standby and phone idle. i'm using stock radio. in the past (on froyo builds), it's always been screen time.
substance12 said:
i'm using 4.2 and I didn't flash any scripts... is the default -25UV? I'm gonna try 4.3 and -50 script later tonight.
quick question to the group: what is eating up your battery? mine, oddly enough is cell standby and phone idle. i'm using stock radio. in the past (on froyo builds), it's always been screen time.
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Default is no undervoltage.
Cell Standby and Phone Idle are my two biggest "battery killers" but that's normal operation.
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+1. Not "iffy" at all.
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maybe all of you missed the whole miui thing. it says it works great with miui, but my phone seemed very buggy after switching from cattleprods kernel, but you tested it on very different roms than me. it addition, my quadrant score were crap on both types, cfs and bfs, which is completely contrary to the description of one over the other. so yes iffy.
Can anyone explain the difference between the scheduler flavors? I use cfs, but bfq or io?
dethpikil said:
maybe all of you missed the whole miui thing. it says it works great with miui, but my phone seemed very buggy after switching from cattleprods kernel, but you tested it on very different roms than me. it addition, my quadrant score were crap on both types, cfs and bfs, which is completely contrary to the description of one over the other. so yes iffy.
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I sure did. Pardon.
sugardaddy1979 said:
Can anyone explain the difference between the scheduler flavors? I use cfs, but bfq or io?
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Check these two posts: Post 1, Post 2. Looks like BFQ is the standard scheduler and VIO is quicker on paper (kind of like BFS vs CFS).
Thanks for the explanation. The bfqhs seems much smoother than the io. I am running it with the uuv.

[Q] Best Kernel for battery life/stability

Hi I am flashing this phone for a friend and I come from the Samsung Captivate so its fairly similar. Only question I have and I hope someone can help without flaming me is which Kernel would you suggest? Im going with Infused 1.5.2 as the rom and I am just curious what pairs with that best? Thanks in advance.
jivy26 said:
Hi I am flashing this phone for a friend and I come from the Samsung Captivate so its fairly similar. Only question I have and I hope someone can help without flaming me is which Kernel would you suggest? Im going with Infused 1.5.2 as the rom and I am just curious what pairs with that best? Thanks in advance.
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if you're one of those "set it and forget it" types... i was incredibly pleased with the latest release of gtg's infusion 1.5.2 rom/kernel combo. very responsive, smooth and snappy. by far my favorite of all his releases to date for this phone.
if you're the type that likes to do a bit of fiddling for an ultimately rewarding end result, i recommend installing the above mentioned rom with bedwa's OC/UV kernel. i've had nothing but a smooth and stable experience with the two paired together. nothing but good things to say about both of these. having voodoo lagfix alone makes a huge difference. when you combine that with overclocking you get a device that feels much more awake and ready to perform. undervoltage allows you to use less battery power, even though the cpu is running at a higher frequency. really, makes a HUGE difference. cannot express how pleased i am with these two running together.
*i might also add that i've never installed any of the other roms. i have tried the defuse kernel with BLN was introduced(it has since been removed due to buggy issues).
bradbusa said:
if you're one of those "set it and forget it" types... i was incredibly pleased with the latest release of gtg's infusion 1.5.2 rom/kernel combo. very responsive, smooth and snappy. by far my favorite of all his releases to date for this phone.
if you're the type that likes to do a bit of fiddling for an ultimately rewarding end result, i recommend installing the above mentioned rom with bedwa's OC/UV kernel. i've had nothing but a smooth and stable experience with the two paired together. nothing but good things to say about both of these. having voodoo lagfix alone makes a huge difference. when you combine that with overclocking you get a device that feels much more awake and ready to perform. undervoltage allows you to use less battery power, even though the cpu is running at a higher frequency. really, makes a HUGE difference. cannot express how pleased i am with these two running together.
*i might also add that i've never installed any of the other roms. i have tried the defuse kernel with BLN was introduced(it has since been removed due to buggy issues).
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It was for a friend.so set it and forget it was my best option. He instantly noticed a speed improvement in the responsiveness using infusion. Thanks for the help.
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jivy26 said:
It was for a friend.so set it and forget it was my best option. He instantly noticed a speed improvement in the responsiveness using infusion. Thanks for the help.
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cool man. no problem. infused rom makes a world of difference in itself.
I've had the best battery life and stability on Infusion 1.5.0
Overclocked to 1.6, with the right undervolting i lost 3% battery over night (9+ hours)
I tried the 1.8 infusion but "OnDemand" stops working and thats my favorite setting so I went back to 1.5.0
I never had good luck with ondemand, along with most other users. Ondemand always FC'd on me
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Faux Kernel or Trinity Kernel CM7

Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
bmann_420 said:
Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
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Really man? You make it sound like this guy is wrong for wanting a little feedback.
hesher said:
Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
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I've tried both and on CM7 Nightly 199, I prefer morfic's Trinity kernel. For a while he didn't have the SOD patch like faux123 did, but now that he does I'm back on his kernel. I use the ELP kernel and I like his philosophy of "less is more".
Plus his kernels have CM7 CPU settings support, which I like since I prefer not to use 3rd party CPU apps, though I am currently enjoying Pimp My CPU a lot with all of its updates.
Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
hesher said:
Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
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I believe both Trinity and faux123's kernel give better battery life, though I've never stayed with the CM7 kernel very long to know to what extent.
I have to agree with all the others. Both kernels tend to give slightly better performance with better battery life. I tend to lean more towards the Trinity kernel because the CPU adjustments can be modified through the CM settings.
I only say that for issues that crop up with people who post on that thread, and have not read this thread. I wasn't being mean or anything, you can get opinions here for sure, you can just view more detailed bugs or current issues on the thread itself. Maybe I was a little short, in wich I'm sorry... but I have tried both and my opinions will differ most likely in comparison to the way his phone will react to each kernel.
Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
But I can say I used to use trinity t11 that worked wonderfully, then I had issues and bugs on the new ones (t15 and betas) so now I'm on faux's ds version and I get a good battery life now.
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Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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bmann_420 said:
Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
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You're good man, no worries.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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That's true, if you want voodoo sound, stick with faux123's kernel. If you look at morfic's thread though, it's probably coming back to his fairly soon thanks to supercurio.

[Q] Information overload, What kernal/Rom combo best fits my needs?

Howdy, So I just got my first smart phone a few weeks ago, the AT&T Skyrocket. Kinda odd since I have been in IT works for many years that it took so long but could never afford the upgrade, my cars sap every spare penny lol.
After getting the phone I spent a few days getting to know it and then rooted it so I could use Titanium backup.
Now long story short due to an unrelated issue with ATT they sent me another phone to fix an issue I told them was on their end (and sure enough, it is, I think I figured it out though, anyone else get charged for a text message when the ATT family map "pings" the device?).
So for the time being I have 2 skyrocket phones and figured this was as good a time as any to try out another rom/kernal on the 2nd phone in case I don't like it my phone will remain untouched (I am picky about how my computers are setup).
So that is the history lesson, I have read sooo much the last few weeks it has gave me a good handle on the general process ect. My issue is picking out an actual rom/kernal to use, I have read so much they are all just one big garble of random info and I could use some advice to pick out what would work for me.
Here is what I want out of a rom/Kernal:
Clock speeds/voltages unlocked, I am an oldschool overclocker so naturally I feel everything can be made better.
Better battery life, Right now the battery life is ok but a bit too close for my tastes and I also feel it is just draining too fast for what I am doing (about ~8-10%/Hour average).
Some improvements like the light meter being linear vs having big steps would also be nice, I know the sensor itself can do it from the the screens but the software just goes in steps I guess.
Stable! I want something rock solid stable that I can count on for a long time to come.
Thats about it, The stock rom works fine for my needs minus those complaints. The clock/voltages being the biggest complaint if I had to go with only a kernal to keep a stable ROM.
So what suggestions do ya'll have? Is there by any chance a modded stock rom that is just debloated ect but will still be stable, that would work nice if it helped battery life some combined with a kernal I think.
I don't mind trying a few combos of roms/kernals but only have a week or 2 before I have to send this phone back and would need to fully test each one so I figure I only have time to do that on a handful in that time frame (I am very through)
Rom I have no clue what would work best for me. Kernal the Faux looks pretty good for my goals but I am not sure.
Any advice would be great.
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
Kagenui said:
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
xcrazydx said:
If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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This article sums it up nicely.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
Kagenui said:
This article sums it up nicely.
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Thanks for that, I had not seen a list of the features listed out like that before. I think I am starting to see what all the buzz is now.
I plan on flashing the rom/kernel you posted earlier tonight, if anyone else has a suggestion for a follow up combo to try feel free to share!
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
edgex said:
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Ah, yeah that would put that off for a little while. Think I might try it out before returning the phone so at least I know if I am interested in it but just gonna stick with the most stable gingerbread rom for now.
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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No, modern = radio. I always flash the radio before the ROM
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icenight89 said:
agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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I just flashed the 010m kernel on the stock rom to play with that first and ran into something I am not sure about.
I tried both system tuner and fauxclock, at first everything was working as it should then I noticed that the 2nd core said "offline" and it won't seem to come on no matter what even while running stress tests. Any ideas?
Texas_Ace said:
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
Frogacuda said:
It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
icenight89 said:
Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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I tried that, the 2nd core stays offline no matter what I do unless I run setcpu.
I would just run setCPU but then I would not be able to undervolt. I wounder if I could use one of these scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20946429&postcount=574
That would take care of the undervolt and then use setcpu to handle the clock speeds? That would seem to be the best of both worlds.
not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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I tried it but didn't care for it. Still didn't have the profiling options I want. I like the setcpu since I can set it to have different CPU speeds at different times/situations. Maybe that is not worth the power savings. Whats wrong with setcpu?
I also had the same problem with system tuner as well, it would not bring the 2nd core online.

CleanROM 2.1 or SynergyROM?

I was hoping to get some of your guys' input. SynergyROM's or CleanROM? Not just newest specific builds but ROM in general. I've been on Synergy since the day I have rooted by GS3 but read somewhere that it might not be as good as CleanROM but I can't find specific reason in the development section so I thought I'd post this here. I like Synergy and the kernel it comes with but I like to flash things in order to test so hopefully I could get some specifics.
Thanks
Well, I will say this...I was using SynergyRom Nightly v1.7 a few days ago and I since switched over to CleanRom 2.0/CleanKernel 1.0 and it was much smoother than Synergy!! I was experiencing alot of lag going between apps and homescreen. I just flashed CleanRom 2.1 and it just keeps getting better!! I would suggest to you to try CleanRom 2.1, and im pretty sure you will be pleased with this build.
nighthawk34691 said:
Well, I will say this...I was using SynergyRom Nightly v1.7 a few days ago and I since switched over to CleanRom 2.0/CleanKernel 1.0 and it was much smoother than Synergy!! I was experiencing alot of lag going between apps and homescreen. I just flashed CleanRom 2.1 and it just keeps getting better!! I would suggest to you to try CleanRom 2.1, and im pretty sure you will be pleased with this build.
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I think I will flash it right now. I'm a flash-aholic but I generally try to stick with one "brand." I've read some great things about CleanROM so I think it's time to switch and check it out
I will say all of this with complete honesty. I started with Synergy and kept going with it through the nightlies.
Then came along Scott who used to dev for the Rezound which I had and ran his CleanROM on that phone.
Long story short, my vote is for CleanROM 2.1. By a decent margin actually. It's just smoother and faster. Not only is real world performance better, but benchmarks are better too.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
I will say all of this with complete honesty. I started with Synergy and kept going with it through the nightlies.
Then came along Scott who used to dev for the Rezound which I had and ran his CleanROM on that phone.
Long story short, my vote is for CleanROM 2.1. By a decent margin actually. It's just smoother and faster. Not only is real world performance better, but benchmarks are better too.
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Funny you say that about the Rezound...I just installed CleanRom Standard 4.5 on my wifes Rezound the other night because I couldnt get any other Rom to work on her phone and it runs great and momma is happy about here phone not being all "Bloated" up...lol... and it runs great!
Yep, Scott seems to be a very intellegent dev and out of all the roms ive used...CleanRom 2.1 is by far the best most smoothest and stable rom ive used.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
I will say all of this with complete honesty. I started with Synergy and kept going with it through the nightlies.
Then came along Scott who used to dev for the Rezound which I had and ran his CleanROM on that phone.
Long story short, my vote is for CleanROM 2.1. By a decent margin actually. It's just smoother and faster. Not only is real world performance better, but benchmarks are better too.
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nighthawk34691 said:
Funny you say that about the Rezound...I just installed CleanRom Standard 4.5 on my wifes Rezound the other night because I couldnt get any other Rom to work on her phone and it runs great and momma is happy about here phone not being all "Bloated" up...lol... and it runs great!
Yep, Scott seems to be a very intellegent dev and out of all the roms ive used...CleanRom 2.1 is by far the best most smoothest and stable rom ive used.
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Awesome! I've flashed it since and can't complain yet.... Transitions seem very smooth
ghilliek9 said:
Awesome! I've flashed it since and can't complain yet.... Transitions seem very smooth
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Have you noticed any difference in battery life from Synergy to CleanROM? I've been on the Synergy nightlies up to now and am looking for a change...
These threads are pointless....
Flash them both and see which one you like!! Geez...lol.
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Tredd626 said:
Have you noticed any difference in battery life from Synergy to CleanROM? I've been on the Synergy nightlies up to now and am looking for a change...
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For me, I have had much better battery life on the SynergyROM (Ziggy kernel) but now I'm trying out that 747 kernel...seems ok. I still have SynergyROM r55 saved and that was the best for battery for me. I use battery monitor widget and always look at the mA's that are being used up and the numbers staid low on r55. They staid much lower on the games I played and also in general. That app kind of gives me the best idea as far as consumption. Its great!
But the ROM itself seems a lot smoother with fewer FC's on things.
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For me, I have had much better battery life on the SynergyROM (Ziggy kernel) but now I'm trying out that 747 kernel...seems ok. I still have SynergyROM r55 saved and that was the best for battery for me. I use battery monitor widget and always look at the mA's that are being used up and the numbers staid low on r55. They staid much lower on the games I played and also in general. That app kind of gives me the best idea as far as consumption. Its great!
But the ROM itself seems a lot smoother with fewer FC's on things.
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I'm on CleanROM 2.0 and it seems great. No problems whatsoever, and good enough battery life for me. I was on Synergy 1.4 before, that was fine too. But all of the nightlies seem fraught with problems creeping in, and I don't want to reflash a lot of times. What I really want is a ROM that is reliable, and will work with the APP2ExtSD hack, but none I've tried does it.
1ManWolfePack said:
These threads are pointless....
Flash them both and see which one you like!! Geez...lol.
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I don't think they are pointless at all. Just looking for some feedback. Replies like yours are pointless and do nothing for the thread. I have been curious too, and the thread gave me some insight.
420fan said:
I don't think they are pointless at all. Just looking for some feedback. Replies like yours are pointless and do nothing for the thread. I have been curious too, and the thread gave me some insight.
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Agreed. That's the point of these threads/forums is to ask questions and get input not just from the devs but also from the users and everybody's wealth of knowledge.
It's because of the input here that I have decided to give CleanROM a shot. Sure I could have flashed it and not noticed a difference but I wanted some concrete statements from the many users who could give me some facts about the differences in the ROMs. Anyway, both Dev's are brilliant...I wish I could somehow use the Kernel from Synergys r55 ROM on CleanROM...I'll have to see if there is a way to extract just the kernel from the r55 zip
My experience with synergy Rom wasn't pleasant. There is too much going on especially since it's in nightlies. Nit the best of battery life either. I've been following Scott's cleanrom and cleankernel. This combo has surpassed all my expectations. Great battery life and performance. Very stable and clean. If you want to get the most usage with the top performance install cleanrom. Cleankernel and leankernel are neck in neck for me. They both do as advertised. I just like cleankernel because it is made to be stable and save battery while delivering performance. I'm running at 1ghz and there is no lag.
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vx2ko said:
My experience with synergy Rom wasn't pleasant. There is too much going on especially since it's in nightlies. Nit the best of battery life either. I've been following Scott's cleanrom and cleankernel. This combo has surpassed all my expectations. Great battery life and performance. Very stable and clean. If you want to get the most usage with the top performance install cleanrom. Cleankernel and leankernel are neck in neck for me. They both do as advertised. I just like cleankernel because it is made to be stable and save battery while delivering performance. I'm running at 1ghz and there is no lag.
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1ghz ... damn...I have mine at 1.2 and also get amazing battery life....thanks for the input. The more and more I use it, the more I'm liking CleanROM!
I enjoyed Synergy! Everything I used on a day to day basis was running without any hiccups.
Clean ROM 2.1/CleanKernel 1.2
android94301 said:
I'm on CleanROM 2.0 and it seems great. No problems whatsoever, and good enough battery life for me. I was on Synergy 1.4 before, that was fine too. But all of the nightlies seem fraught with problems creeping in, and I don't want to reflash a lot of times. What I really want is a ROM that is reliable, and will work with the APP2ExtSD hack, but none I've tried does it.
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I am a noob at this stuff still and flashed Clean ROM 2.1 and CleanKernel 1.2 last night, which was my first ROM. I LOVE it compared to the stock Touchwiz OS. It's OH so smooth and zippy! I will probably stick with this rom for a good while! I installed the Nova launcher to try it out and like it as well. I REALLY like the fact that you can change the quick panel widget buttons!!! I am experiencing a small problem however, and wanted to see if anyone else was running into the same thing...
Using the stock alarm clock widget I set my music by choosing one of my music files, but every time I click on "choose file" it locks up and says that the clock has stopped working. It also happens when I try and choose a ringtone for a specific contact out of my music files. I have searched the clean rom thread and one other person was having the issue, but no one else was, so it never got addressed. And being new to the forum, I can't post on that thread yet.
Anyone else having this issue?
mooremh said:
I am a noob at this stuff still and flashed Clean ROM 2.1 and CleanKernel 1.2 last night, which was my first ROM. I LOVE it compared to the stock Touchwiz OS. It's OH so smooth and zippy! I will probably stick with this rom for a good while! I installed the Nova launcher to try it out and like it as well. I REALLY like the fact that you can change the quick panel widget buttons!!! I am experiencing a small problem however, and wanted to see if anyone else was running into the same thing...
Using the stock alarm clock widget I set my music by choosing one of my music files, but every time I click on "choose file" it locks up and says that the clock has stopped working. It also happens when I try and choose a ringtone for a specific contact out of my music files. I have searched the clean rom thread and one other person was having the issue, but no one else was, so it never got addressed. And being new to the forum, I can't post on that thread yet.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I think that's because u r on nova launcher, I also use it and that's only because I can change the pixel density so everything is much smaller ( I use an app called density changer its awesome when set to 240)but anyway go into the stock music player find a song click and hold on it and then you will have the option of selecting it as an alarm clock that has worked for me.

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