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really ticked, need advice..

okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.

fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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As far as I can tell, the Ziggy kernel in the latest Gingeritis3D is the smoothest. Might be something newer in the synergy ROM, but I'm getting good battery life and things are nearly lag-free.

I am running OMFGB right now, and while I do prefer AOSP roms, the battery life isn't great. I have an extended battery so the battery life for me isn't an issue.
I agree with the previous post in regards to Gingeritis 3D. I had version VII installed, deleted almost all sense out with Tibu and used ADW EX. It was nice having some sense, lockscreen, pulldown, but that was all I really liked about sense. I oc'd to 1.4 and thought it ran great with excellent battery life.
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I haven't messed with uberBAMF yet. I understand it's a work in progess. I'm not sure what kernel it uses, but it might be worth giving a go. I'd love to think it's NOT a Ziggy or Imoseyon kernel just because I think Sense kernels NEED a LOT more attention.

im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.

fixxxer2008 said:
im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.

loonatik78 said:
The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.

fixxxer2008 said:
i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
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You sure? This one just seems smoother.

loonatik78 said:
You sure? This one just seems smoother.
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almost 100%

fixxxer2008 said:
almost 100%
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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.

loonatik78 said:
I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
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its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.

fixxxer2008 said:
its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
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Wouldn't be surprised knowing how he works.

I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.

DRGilroy said:
I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
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not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.

Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.

mike.s said:
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
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naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.

fixxxer2008 said:
not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
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To make things a little easier for you...
uber-BAMF

fixxxer2008 said:
naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
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Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.

mike.s said:
Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
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WTF? You for real?

fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?

[Q] Information overload, What kernal/Rom combo best fits my needs?

Howdy, So I just got my first smart phone a few weeks ago, the AT&T Skyrocket. Kinda odd since I have been in IT works for many years that it took so long but could never afford the upgrade, my cars sap every spare penny lol.
After getting the phone I spent a few days getting to know it and then rooted it so I could use Titanium backup.
Now long story short due to an unrelated issue with ATT they sent me another phone to fix an issue I told them was on their end (and sure enough, it is, I think I figured it out though, anyone else get charged for a text message when the ATT family map "pings" the device?).
So for the time being I have 2 skyrocket phones and figured this was as good a time as any to try out another rom/kernal on the 2nd phone in case I don't like it my phone will remain untouched (I am picky about how my computers are setup).
So that is the history lesson, I have read sooo much the last few weeks it has gave me a good handle on the general process ect. My issue is picking out an actual rom/kernal to use, I have read so much they are all just one big garble of random info and I could use some advice to pick out what would work for me.
Here is what I want out of a rom/Kernal:
Clock speeds/voltages unlocked, I am an oldschool overclocker so naturally I feel everything can be made better.
Better battery life, Right now the battery life is ok but a bit too close for my tastes and I also feel it is just draining too fast for what I am doing (about ~8-10%/Hour average).
Some improvements like the light meter being linear vs having big steps would also be nice, I know the sensor itself can do it from the the screens but the software just goes in steps I guess.
Stable! I want something rock solid stable that I can count on for a long time to come.
Thats about it, The stock rom works fine for my needs minus those complaints. The clock/voltages being the biggest complaint if I had to go with only a kernal to keep a stable ROM.
So what suggestions do ya'll have? Is there by any chance a modded stock rom that is just debloated ect but will still be stable, that would work nice if it helped battery life some combined with a kernal I think.
I don't mind trying a few combos of roms/kernals but only have a week or 2 before I have to send this phone back and would need to fully test each one so I figure I only have time to do that on a handful in that time frame (I am very through)
Rom I have no clue what would work best for me. Kernal the Faux looks pretty good for my goals but I am not sure.
Any advice would be great.

From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel

Kagenui said:
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!

Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.

xcrazydx said:
If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?

Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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This article sums it up nicely.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/

Kagenui said:
This article sums it up nicely.
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Thanks for that, I had not seen a list of the features listed out like that before. I think I am starting to see what all the buzz is now.
I plan on flashing the rom/kernel you posted earlier tonight, if anyone else has a suggestion for a follow up combo to try feel free to share!

Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.

edgex said:
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Ah, yeah that would put that off for a little while. Think I might try it out before returning the phone so at least I know if I am interested in it but just gonna stick with the most stable gingerbread rom for now.

Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Romracer 0.3

xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?

xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
Sent from SKYROCKET
NexusMod 4.0
Romracer 0.3
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics

Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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No, modern = radio. I always flash the radio before the ROM
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icenight89 said:
agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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I just flashed the 010m kernel on the stock rom to play with that first and ran into something I am not sure about.
I tried both system tuner and fauxclock, at first everything was working as it should then I noticed that the 2nd core said "offline" and it won't seem to come on no matter what even while running stress tests. Any ideas?

Texas_Ace said:
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.

Frogacuda said:
It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?

Texas_Ace said:
Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.

icenight89 said:
Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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I tried that, the 2nd core stays offline no matter what I do unless I run setcpu.
I would just run setCPU but then I would not be able to undervolt. I wounder if I could use one of these scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20946429&postcount=574
That would take care of the undervolt and then use setcpu to handle the clock speeds? That would seem to be the best of both worlds.

not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.

icenight89 said:
not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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I tried it but didn't care for it. Still didn't have the profiling options I want. I like the setcpu since I can set it to have different CPU speeds at different times/situations. Maybe that is not worth the power savings. Whats wrong with setcpu?
I also had the same problem with system tuner as well, it would not bring the 2nd core online.

Sense3.6 vs Vanilla

Well.. i have come to the question.. im a big fan of Vanilla Roms and especially JB...
But in your opinion, what is better and smoother to run on DS, sense3.6 or ICS/JB?

Vanilla from ICS up is much nicer to look at.

Kavrocks said:
Vanilla from ICS up is much nicer to look at.
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still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?

Niko0olas said:
still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?
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You could try Ice Cold Sandwich? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508
I think JB is much nicer than ICS, but as you say it's not really dependable yet (my opinion). Ice Cold has a few issues but is pretty stable for everyday use.

I have been using ICE DS for few weeks and i must say that I'm happy with this rom cause its stable.
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JB not stable ? Latest version of JB by Andromadus is awesome, I never imagined that DS might be so beautiful and extremely smooth in use (project's butter contribution i guess), the only thing I'm missing now is fully working camera but everything else is just great !

outsidetown said:
You could try Ice Cold Sandwich? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508
I think JB is much nicer than ICS, but as you say it's not really dependable yet (my opinion). Ice Cold has a few issues but is pretty stable for everyday use.
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true, Ice Cold Sandwich was my daily driver before JB. but i prefer JB for now =/
Lapanen1995 said:
I have been using ICE DS for few weeks and i must say that I'm happy with this rom cause its stable.
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This is the rom i was actually asking about, i donno, i may give dualboot a try.
mrp1nk said:
JB not stable ? Latest version of JB by Andromadus is awesome, I never imagined that DS might be so beautiful and extremely smooth in use (project's butter contribution i guess), the only thing I'm missing now is fully working camera but everything else is just great !
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ahhh i have to agree, i use codename android for weeks now and i love it.
Never tried Andromadus tho.

Niko0olas said:
ahhh i have to agree, i use codename android for weeks now and i love it.
Never tried Andromadus tho.
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Could you share some info how is it's performance, what's not working and is it stable ? I'd reconsider changing rom to this if it's worth it.

Niko0olas said:
... what is better and smoother to run on DS, sense3.6 or ICS/JB?
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I'd rather use ICS than JB at the moment. There are just too many bugs in most of the JB ROMs, imho. You could give AOKP ICS by tectas a try. It's feature complete and very stable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616719

Waiting for the jb updates for the htc one serie. Hope soon to have jb+sense roms

mrp1nk said:
Could you share some info how is it's performance, what's not working and is it stable ? I'd reconsider changing rom to this if it's worth it.
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i can say that there are almost no bugs other than the existing.
Games lag sometimes but im not sure yet if its GPU or my CPU settings (max 1024)
Battery life is a problem tho... it can last for a day with busy sms and medium to busy calls...
but still not sure how it will perform in a busy week day..
going back to the army tomorrow and im thinking of ICS/MIUI/Sense than JB

sense
i definitely prefer the vanilla look, and JB is soo smooth. though it seems to me that there is not yet one vanilla rom for our device that is completely stable. im using clean and light sense rom, which is really fast and has great battery life, while praying for a stable vanilla rom :angel:

You could perhaps try ICE DS (Sense 3.6) with the tweaked v6.0 kernel, I'm using this now and it's rock solid which seems like what you'd want! I also run Apex launcher, so you get a bit of the vanilla feel in the homescreen/app drawer (but with more options!)
I don't think it'll be long til we get a more stable JB, but if you're going away it's a much better idea to have something reliable.

so, guys, i need battery life... at least 1.5 day without charge with only normal sms usage.
Is there any chance that ICE DS with tweaked kernel v6 can hold that much?
I know that CNA (JB) cant hold that much... even tho i love it...

Niko0olas said:
so, guys, i need battery life... at least 1.5 day without charge with only normal sms usage.
Is there any chance that ICE DS with tweaked kernel v6 can hold that much?
I know that CNA (JB) cant hold that much... even tho i love it...
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guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/

Niko0olas said:
guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/
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I'd say go CM7 or Reaper

Niko0olas said:
guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/
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You can achieve that to any ROM if you have a properly calibrated battery, turned off WiFi, GPS, Background Data (Gingerbread and below), Auto-sync off, Brightness preset, GSM network only, and to an area where GSM reception is high. Zero or no reception tends to make your OS to let your radio work harder just to have a network from your provider.
Additionally, if you have an optimized custom ROM, not play so much games, tweaked properly and not so much OC, UV proper governor, not much app running in the background will also help
Basically, turn off the other features that make your smartphone a "smartphone" and just use it mainly for talk and sms. You're better off with a Nokia 3310 if you will. Chuck Norris seems to be the only match for that phone.
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I haven't been able to test ICE DS's battery to be able to recommend it for you, I'm currently trying different governors etc. and although the rom is great the battery life is not, thus far.
Before this I was using Fallout, and I think I'd recommend that. Flash 4.4,the UV tweaked kernel (the zip worked fine for me, I used 1200/245 on demand and sio settings). Decide if you like sweep2wake and get rid if not (I did, instructions in the thread.)
With this setup I got close to 30 hours after properly charging and discharging after flashing.
I would also highly recommend apex launcher like I said before, which gives you a ton of options to play with and a stock feel. Finally, itandy has made a brilliant app available in the development forum, that allows you to keep lock screen shortcuts with a non-rosie launcher.
I hope that helps, it's hard to say how much battery you'll get because you probably use your phone very differently to me, or anyone else. What I've said here is a good bet though. Stay safe!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

outsidetown said:
I haven't been able to test ICE DS's battery to be able to recommend it for you, I'm currently trying different governors etc. and although the rom is great the battery life is not, thus far.
Before this I was using Fallout, and I think I'd recommend that. Flash 4.4,the UV tweaked kernel (the zip worked fine for me, I used 1200/245 on demand and sio settings). Decide if you like sweep2wake and get rid if not (I did, instructions in the thread.)
With this setup I got close to 30 hours after properly charging and discharging after flashing.
I would also highly recommend apex launcher like I said before, which gives you a ton of options to play with and a stock feel. Finally, itandy has made a brilliant app available in the development forum, that allows you to keep lock screen shortcuts with a non-rosie launcher.
I hope that helps, it's hard to say how much battery you'll get because you probably use your phone very differently to me, or anyone else. What I've said here is a good bet though. Stay safe!
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Guys i know how to save battery, but JB (CNA) droped 1% cz of vibration,
seen it from 72% dropping to 71% and right after to 70% xD
Anw, im just gonna need it for heavy texting, my girl really gets anxious when im in there
I was using Sense4A port from proxuser before, i have to admit that i loved the battery life.
EDIT: i decided to go with Fallout & also download ICE_DS and CNA on my SDcard...
if i find any problem with Fallout im gonna backup my messages and contacts and switch to ICE_DS..
Now there goes a battery testing for soldiers =p

Niko0olas said:
still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?
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In your personal opinion. CM9 and 10 are both stable enough for me so I'm happy, if you aren't go and help the development of JB ROMs.

[Q] Could you recommend a good JellyBean ROM for Nexus S

I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?

I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!

CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.

For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^

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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.

Nexus-S said:
I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.

Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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rom cm 10 stable version with kernel matr1x v24

Cm10 with marmite kernel beast
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?

tobice said:
Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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the1dynasty said:
I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
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For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?

[Q] Should I keep PACman ROM or move onto Viper?

First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
EDIT 1: I installed Viper, it ran smoothly, but what I like to call "self plug-ins" are way to much from Venom. They have to many Venom/Viper apps and they are probably useless. So uninstalled and hopefully I'll research more of the tweaks for a better experience next time.

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First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
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I haven't used PACman, but I'm a huge fan of CM10 (not 10.1 for me yet).
I used ViperOneS for about 7 months and enjoyed it, but it definitely still felt a little bloated (and that was using a custom kernel with the system overclocked and undervolted). The customization was nice, it had few bugs, and the sense camera is hard to beat. I have limited experience with Viper 2.0 - so someone else may need to chime in about it specifically. I used the de-Sensed installer and it still felt slightly bloated.
CM10 is a much cleaner experience in my opinion. Even without a custom kernel that has the chip overclocked, the ROM runs much more smoothly. It is nearly a perfect ROM except for the camera. It's not bad, but it's definitely nowhere near as good as Sense. I would also say that CM is more stable than Viper, but only slightly so.
It really comes down to what you value.

@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it

Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.

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@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it
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I'm just looking for a better battery life, smooth performance, and a just an overall easy experience. I'm used to Jellybean ROMs the most, so sense type are kinda new for me.

YoMarK said:
Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.
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I've done so many reinstalls. Maybe in the past week I'll say 10. I played the pretty CPU and GPU demanding game ago. But I haven't played in awhile and it's not running.