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Screen Lock visible pattern question

Hello,
I set my phone up to use the screen lock pattern option but now I cant seem to get rid of it. I was having problems with NoLED and thought the screen lock was interfering with it so I disabled it but even now when I turn my screen off and on it asked for my pattern. I have to put it in but it no longer seems animated.
Obviously this would be a bug and what I need to do to disable the screen lock now?

Whew! You gave me a bit of a scare just now.
I hadn't set a lock pattern yet, so I did to test this for you. Sure enough, I got the same thing as you.
Set a lock pattern, then un-set it by selecting "none" in the Settings/Security/Screen Unlock section. I was still getting the unlock pattern even though it was supposedly non.
I managed to turn it off by going through the set a new pattern process, then setting it to none after confirming the new pattern. Give that a try.
The other thing you might try is to switch it to a pin and see if the pin can be turned off. (I haven't tried that.)

A 4 day NS user and I didn't even know about noled. What a cool idea to fix the annoying no led problem. Thanks for leading me to the app.

elusivepeanut said:
A 4 day NS user and I didn't even know about noled. What a cool idea to fix the annoying no led problem. Thanks for leading me to the app.
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Yeah it is, worked well until I added a few more apps. So if you dont have many apps it works well. There must be a conflict somewhere but cant be bothered trying to figure out what other app is affecting it, still might be the phone lock as well. It could also be gingerbread, NoLED might not be updated for it.

distortedloop said:
Whew! You gave me a bit of a scare just now.
I hadn't set a lock pattern yet, so I did to test this for you. Sure enough, I got the same thing as you.
Set a lock pattern, then un-set it by selecting "none" in the Settings/Security/Screen Unlock section. I was still getting the unlock pattern even though it was supposedly non.
I managed to turn it off by going through the set a new pattern process, then setting it to none after confirming the new pattern. Give that a try.
The other thing you might try is to switch it to a pin and see if the pin can be turned off. (I haven't tried that.)
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Thanks for that, did the same as you and turned it off. NoLED seems to work properly again. Looks like the lock affects NoLED.

Is Smart Lock (Lollipop) working for you consistently?

Upgraded my N5 to its Lollipop Factory Image, and setup Smart Lock to work with my Moto 360. I'm noticing that my N5 will still prompt me for a passcode half the time, even though my moto 360 shows it's still connected (I can even PROVE it's connected, by doing an "Ok Google" voice search). I even set up face unlock to give it another unlock method, and that didn't seem to increase the success rate for Smart Unlock. It seems that no matter what, smart unlock doesn't work for me a lot of the time. To be more specific, it seems like it doesn't work if I haven't used the phone in awhile. Once I put my passcode in, smart lock seems to work just fine for awhile, but eventually it will stop working again, forcing me to enter my passcode to jumpstart it again.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Yes, this seems to be what I'm experiencing as well.

Same here... really want this to work. I assumed it might be because I dirty flashed, are you running a clean install?

same here...
Same here with a nexus 9. Tried connecting it to a moto and to my nexus 5. The units ARE connected to the nexus9 but in smartlock they have status "not connected". After setting up it works until the units are out of reach for the first time....after that it is back to pincode
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Upgraded my N5 to its Lollipop Factory Image, and setup Smart Lock to work with my Moto 360. I'm noticing that my N5 will still prompt me for a passcode half the time, even though my moto 360 shows it's still connected (I can even PROVE it's connected, by doing an "Ok Google" voice search). I even set up face unlock to give it another unlock method, and that didn't seem to increase the success rate for Smart Unlock. It seems that no matter what, smart unlock doesn't work for me a lot of the time. To be more specific, it seems like it doesn't work if I haven't used the phone in awhile. Once I put my passcode in, smart lock seems to work just fine for awhile, but eventually it will stop working again, forcing me to enter my passcode to jumpstart it again.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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got no problem at all since N5 is paired with my LG G watch.
Got problems making NFC tag work. I have a NFC sticker at home, i use it with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en making toggle wifi when i enter home (wifi on) and when i walk out (wifi off). I tried to use the same tag for smart unlock, but it simply doesn't works. Tag writing seems to be ok but still have to enter the pin when i pass my phone over it. Should i use another tag?

Mine works but RARELY
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Well, I figured out my issue anyway. It seems it's Gravity Screen. I use it to turn off my screen when I put the phone in my pocket (and turn it back on when I take it out). Because of this, I rarely touch the power button anymore. Apparently, when Gravity Screen locks the device, it REALLY locks it, making it so that Smart Lock can't unlock it, and forcing you to enter a passcode. I've left a note in the dev's thread, asking for a fix, but for now, I had to disable that feature.
Now, Smart Lock is working almost all of the time. I still have the occasional need to enter a passcode (like after rebooting), but for the most part, this fixed my issue.
I guess the tl;dr of all this is to make sure you don't have any apps running that lock or power-off your screen. They may be interfering.

jt3 said:
Well, I figured out my issue anyway. It seems it's Gravity Screen. I use it to turn off my screen when I put the phone in my pocket (and turn it back on when I take it out). Because of this, I rarely touch the power button anymore. Apparently, when Gravity Screen locks the device, it REALLY locks it, making it so that Smart Lock can't unlock it, and forcing you to enter a passcode. I've left a note in the dev's thread, asking for a fix, but for now, I had to disable that feature.
Now, Smart Lock is working almost all of the time. I still have the occasional need to enter a passcode (like after rebooting), but for the most part, this fixed my issue.
I guess the tl;dr of all this is to make sure you don't have any apps running that lock or power-off your screen. They may be interfering.
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I don't use Gravity Screen, but have it installed. Could that cause the problem? I'm currently on 5.1 Cataclysm on my Nexus 5.
I have added Moto 360 as a trusted device. The moment I add it i'm able to unlock without PIN. However, after a few minutes, although the watch is connected, smart lock doesn't seem to work. I had this issue on stock Android 5.0 (no root or bootloader unlock) also with a Sony bluetooth headphones!

My smart lock "trusted places" is not working. I am assuming it is associated with the recent update to the Google Play Services for the "on body detection."
My Google Play Services has been sucking up my battery usage when location services is on. Other users have been experiencing the same issues. Some fixes suggest turning the smart features off then back and another is reinstalling the Google play services (revert then update again.)
I side loaded my Google Play Services but it didn't fix the problem. I am still looking for a fix so trusted places will work.
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My smart lock "trusted places" is not working. I am assuming it is associated with the recent update to the Google Play Services for the "on body detection."
My Google Play Services has been sucking up my battery usage when location services is on. Other users have been experiencing the same issues. Some fixes suggest turning the smart features off then back and another is reinstalling the Google play services (revert then update again.)
I side loaded my Google Play Services but it didn't fix the problem. I am still looking for a fix so trusted places will work.
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Having absolutely the same problem. The "on body detection" feature works perfectly, howeve, the "trusted places" - almost never. I find myself entering my PIN at home every time I want to unlock the device, except for the times I slide it out of my pocket. If Google fixes these problems, Smart Lock would be my favourite feature!

I've pretty much given up on Smart Location Unlock. It's been broken for weeks now. I'm on CM12 and made profiles to disable pin/password/pattern when connected to my home Wi-Fi.

[Q] Disable access to Quick Settings on Lock Screen - coming anytime soon?

I've recently configured the fingerprint scanner on my Lock Screen but notice that a whole bunch of phone functions are still accessible as Quick Settings are still available (well, some functions are).
Now, I'm not the first to notice this - this question has been asked before here and other places but an answer has never presented itself - not on stock firmware anyway. I think this may be a Lollipop "feature" so my question is does anyone knows if Marshmallow still does this or has it been fixed? I say fixed because locked phones shouldn't be turning stuff on & off in my pocket!

Not sure, I know samsung requires you're fingerprint or pin etc to turn on or off functions.
I'd check my Nexus 6 but it's in the mail to my brother right now.
Just to confirm, you can change the setting with it locked, the quicksettings don't just show you what's enabled? I don't have my Z5 yet so I can't check lol.
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No, not just a read-only display area. You can adjust brightness slider, toggle on/off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Flashlight, Airplane mode, Auto-rotate and LTE. My regular unlocked Quick Settings config has Mobile data and Stamina mode too. Weird that Airplane and LTE toggle are available on Lock Screen but somehow Mobile data and Stamina are "too important" to be left there.
I've read that removing all these from the regular Quick Settings will remove them from the Lock Screen cut-down version too but that's not really the point. I expect phone functions to be locked when the phone is.

Strange, I can see the use case for it, but it should be a toggle 'allow on lock screen' or something.
I've wanted to toggle bluetooth or airplane mode from the lock screen before, but at the same time I can see why having the ability to do that could be bad (evil coworkers lol)
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its not just about evil coworkers, its about thieves turning off Data+Wifi so you cannot use Device Manager !
a big security issue IMO.

Aye, though with features like reactivation lock is less of a issue since they won't be able to wipe and use the phone anyway. Still a security oversight though.
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Seems I've answered my own question
I tested this on a Nexus 5 running Marshmallow and it's the exact same scenario unfortunately so it doesn't look disabling Lock Screen Quick Setting access is coming to the Z5 either.
I've also tested an iPhone running iOS 9.1 and access to the Control Center (which has Airplane mode toggle too) is configurable to NOT be available on the Lock Screen.
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Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.

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Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.
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Ah yes, forgot about on/off also being available. Turns out on/off is also available on iOS 9.1 lock screen even with Control Center access disabled so both iOS and Android behave the same there.
So it kinda cuts down the use cases for the find phone functionality on both.

Even on Marshmallow on the Nexus 5 Google have made it so location doesn't display on the toggles on the lockscreen for security of lost devices. But you can disable data still, the thing you need to tell the device to locate itself... Big fail...
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Lawyers?
Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?

Problem still exists up to date
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Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?
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That's quite a good one :laugh::laugh:

Tap to wake without lockscreen

Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this
Cheers!

MasK said:
Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this [emoji14]
Cheers!
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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.

I tried to get the double tap only to work as well but I failed. I don’t need to lock my phone either. Coming from BB10 where all I had to do was swipe up to unlock my phone man that was great. A slight swipe would show the lock screen a full swipe gesture would unlock the phone. None of this involves touching the power button I am simply talking about picking the phone up and swiping without hitting the power. BB10 was awesome it really was great but I think the lack of apps didn’t allow it to shine.
The finger print to unlock is pretty quick and easy but if your phone is position in a way that your not going to unlock it with your finger you have to use a pin or pattern to unlock.

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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.
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Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work

MasK said:
Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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The really nice thing about Gravity Screen is that it puts you back where you left it, not the lock screen.

MasK said:
Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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I would be interested in implementing a Tasker profile to do this. I'll let you know if I get anything good.

I finally turned it off. Fingerprint scanner doesn't work even though the scroll up and down still does so I'll live.

Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.

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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.
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I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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joshw0000 said:
I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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The app is created by flar2, the creator of ElementalX, so I don't believe it would be any different than his kernel. I use it and I do not experience drain. One additional feature the app has is the extra protection of accidental pocket turn-ons.

Why do I need to enter passcode every morning?

Before I go to sleep I put my phone on wireless charger. I wake up in the morning and it show unlock using passcode. No fingerprint or face unlock. On top of that the phone does not look like it rebooted.

That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off

I think it can be turned off by using smart lock, it could be connected to a certain device or location so then you can use fingerprint or face unlock.
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borijess said:
Before I go to sleep I put my phone on wireless charger. I wake up in the morning and it show unlock using passcode. No fingerprint or face unlock. On top of that the phone does not look like it rebooted.
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I have the same issue glad you made the post

doesn't seem to work with smart lock either for me

Smart lock auto locks phone after 4 hours of inactivity...

You could use Samsung Routines to keep your phone unlocked.
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if you use face unlock this is what happens, there is a warning about it on the bio metrics screen when you enable it.
turn it off and this goes away.
its a stupid feature for sure and just annoying AF
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That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off
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only if you stop using face unlock

I use smart lock with me frontier, and I don't use face unlock. Only need pin after reboot.

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That's a new security feature implemented with one UI[.] Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in[,] It will default to pin[.] Not sure if this can be turned off
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For me, it only asks for my password around once a week (I haven't done anything to modify the feature). It may depend on which biometric authentication you've enabled. I only use fingerprints.

Maybe auto restart is active and phone restarting itself every night so this is why at the mornings you need to enter your password.

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That's a new security feature implemented with one UI... Basically after 4-5 hours without signing in... It will default to pin... Not sure if this can be turned off
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Don't set a pin.
I'm more afraid of being accidentally locked out.
Once bitten, twice shy... hardware failures could leave it in the locked state. Got permanently locked of a mobo like that...

Gary02468 said:
For me, it only asks for my password around once a week (I haven't done anything to modify the feature). It may depend on which biometric authentication you've enabled. I only use fingerprints.
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You didn't read the thread obviously lol, with only fingerprint enabled of course its not happening to you.

Settings > The search bar > Auto Restart > disable it

Just check if your phone is set to auto restart at night. That could also be the reason for same. I have mine set to restart every night.

enjoylife1788 said:
Just check if your phone is set to auto restart at night. That could also be the reason for same. I have mine set to restart every night.
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You can rule out that explanation by looking in Settings | About Phone | Status | Up Time to see when the phone last rebooted.

if your uing the face unlock feature which is less secure this issue happens it will ask for your pin time to time which is annoying.
disable that and problem goes away