Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this
Cheers!
MasK said:
Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this [emoji14]
Cheers!
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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.
I tried to get the double tap only to work as well but I failed. I don’t need to lock my phone either. Coming from BB10 where all I had to do was swipe up to unlock my phone man that was great. A slight swipe would show the lock screen a full swipe gesture would unlock the phone. None of this involves touching the power button I am simply talking about picking the phone up and swiping without hitting the power. BB10 was awesome it really was great but I think the lack of apps didn’t allow it to shine.
The finger print to unlock is pretty quick and easy but if your phone is position in a way that your not going to unlock it with your finger you have to use a pin or pattern to unlock.
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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.
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Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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The really nice thing about Gravity Screen is that it puts you back where you left it, not the lock screen.
MasK said:
Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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I would be interested in implementing a Tasker profile to do this. I'll let you know if I get anything good.
I finally turned it off. Fingerprint scanner doesn't work even though the scroll up and down still does so I'll live.
Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.
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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.
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I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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The app is created by flar2, the creator of ElementalX, so I don't believe it would be any different than his kernel. I use it and I do not experience drain. One additional feature the app has is the extra protection of accidental pocket turn-ons.
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I'd really like to see a couple of what I would consider to be enhancements to the standard 2.1 lockscreen.
I'm wondering if it's possible to make the unlock slider REQUIRED to unlock the phone because, at this point, you can still unlock the phone by pressing the Menu key again. This would prevent the phone from being accidentally unlocked if the Menu key gets double-pressed while in your pocket, without the need to set up a full unlock pattern. It would also make the "slide to unlock" bar functional, instead of just being nice to look at but pointless to use.
Additionally, I'm wondering if it would be possible to change the Mute/Unmute slider to mute ALL SOUNDS, including the media volume. The reason I ask is because those of us using the Touchdown Exchange application have the option to have the app read our notifications, incoming email, calendar appointments, etc., out loud to us using TTS, which is "played back" as media, not as a notification. Yesterday, while I was in a meeting, I THOUGHT I had the phone on silent. Then an email came in. Made me look like the idiot that I probably am anyway.
I'm now using a single-click app from the market that mutes EVERYTHING, but it would be very nice to have this feature built directly into the lockscreen.
Any chance this can be done? Anyone interested in doing it? Thanks in advance.
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I'm wondering if it's possible to make the unlock slider REQUIRED to unlock the phone because, at this point, you can still unlock the phone by pressing the Menu key again. This would prevent the phone from being accidentally unlocked if the Menu key gets double-pressed while in your pocket, without the need to set up a full unlock pattern. It would also make the "slide to unlock" bar functional, instead of just being nice to look at but pointless to use.
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why is everybody complaining about that. i still use 1.x (since a year) and i never accidently unlocked my phone.
but i think its good to have a touchscreen option. until now the menu button is in heavy use on my phone
skarboy said:
why is everybody complaining about that. i still use 1.x (since a year) and i never accidently unlocked my phone.
but i think its good to have a touchscreen option. until now the menu button is in heavy use on my phone
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This isn't a complaint, it's a request. The slider is there, so why not make it functional instead of just pretty?
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This isn't a complaint, it's a request. The slider is there, so why not make it functional instead of just pretty?
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Anyone interested? I mean, it would make better sense, right?
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Anyone interested? I mean, it would make better sense, right?
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I agree. it does make sense. Especially with the 2.1 roms. sometimes I hit menu multiple time and then i am depressed cause I didnt get to swip the unlock.
Sleepytime28 said:
I agree. it does make sense. Especially with the 2.1 roms. sometimes I hit menu multiple time and then i am depressed cause I didnt get to swip the unlock.
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Ya I feel the same way sometimes hehe
It would be nice as I like the pattern lock mainly because it forces you to enter it to EVER unlock the phone.
But I don't really care about having a complex pattern to keep my phone "secure". I always just have the pattern be a simple swipe right then up. The lock on the 2.1 default lockscreen is just as simple and I love it actually but I just wish it would always require the unlock action to unlock. Customizing it in other ways would be an added bonus.
I also agree about muting ALL sounds, that is what that slider should be doing in my opinion as well. Seems like it should I mean "Sounds off" to me means "mute everything".
chillbeast said:
Ya I feel the same way sometimes hehe
It would be nice as I like the pattern lock mainly because it forces you to enter it to EVER unlock the phone.
But I don't really care about having a complex pattern to keep my phone "secure". I always just have the pattern be a simple swipe right then up. The lock on the 2.1 default lockscreen is just as simple and I love it actually but I just wish it would always require the unlock action to unlock. Customizing it in other ways would be an added bonus.
I also agree about muting ALL sounds, that is what that slider should be doing in my opinion as well. Seems like it should I mean "Sounds off" to me means "mute everything".
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Yeah. I believe all of this is possible. Perhaps put a setting in Spare Parts to turn these functions on and off? I don't know. I wish a developer would share some thoughts.
It can be very usefull, the double sliding on no audio produce the effect to activate the vibration mode
buy or download the free version of LockBot
u get the option to use Iphone/Hero/Eclair/Flan lockscreens with many choices of backgrounds ect..
and it allows u to NEED to slide to unlock has alot of options.
i use LockBot Pro very useful app
How exactly do you "accidentally" press menu?
I keep my phone in my pocket separate of any objects that could possibly press and buttons.But the amount of force and accuracy would be needed just to hit the button. Just press power,home,call and then swipe its pretty simple.
EkostonS said:
buy or download the free version of LockBot
u get the option to use Iphone/Hero/Eclair/Flan lockscreens with many choices of backgrounds ect..
and it allows u to NEED to slide to unlock has alot of options.
i use LockBot Pro very useful app
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With lockbot all you have to do is hold down the home button and switch to a different app and then boom..lockbot has now become usless
@ OP It is possible to do. I had a BB 9530 and they had the pattern lock ust like the g1. what they dide was disable the buttons except for end key. Im not a dev but I dont think it would be that hard to implement this ina rom
Ace42 said:
How exactly do you "accidentally" press menu?
I keep my phone in my pocket separate of any objects that could possibly press and buttons.But the amount of force and accuracy would be needed just to hit the button. Just press power,home,call and then swipe its pretty simple.
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Moreover, both Magic and Dream have a chin lol; it's really unlikely that menu button would be spontaneously pressed; pressed twice is just nonsense!
dreamhunterr said:
Moreover, both Magic and Dream have a chin lol; it's really unlikely that menu button would be spontaneously pressed; pressed twice is just nonsense!
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Listen guys, I appreciate the feedback, but this thread isn't about alternative solutions. And talking about how YOU don't unlock the phone with accidental double-presses of the Menu key doesn't help here either. Some of us do. Keep in mind that some people carry their phones differently than others. All of us have different lives, and our days might present situations and conditions under which our pockets/phones can get bumped or pressed against. It can happen. But, even if you don't have an issue with double-pressing the Menu key, wouldn't it just be nice to have a BUILT-IN lockscreen that is more functional than it is pretty to look at?
Also, suggesting Market apps, paid or not, does NOT help. I'd really like the EXISTING 2.1 lockscreen to be more functional. If someone is willing to try implementing this, it would be nice to be able to turn these settings on/off using Spare Parts or adding additional menu options under the phone's Settings --> Location & security.
i would have to say i agree with the OP, although i do love the 2.x unlock pattern page now because it has the time and charging status, before i would have to hit menu to get the screen to come on, then back (if i dont need to unlock) to get the time...this way is so much better!!!
+1 for the OP
I also often unlock my phone when it's in my pocket -- I guess I'm just an active dude.
Helloooooooo developers! Chime in please.
catch me if u can!
Doesnt look like any devs are interested in this...mainly because there will be a new lockscreen probably when gingerbread drops
Your best bet would be to pm somebody you know has done work on lockscreens (i.e. Stericson) but like i said there will probably be a whole new lockscreen anytime now
This ROM says that the menu button doesn't work when the screen is unlocked. i personally haven't tried it out, but this might be what you're looking for.
i dont understand the "accident" part. lol i love how i can unlock by pressing menu and by sliding. i live in chicago. when its cold as hell outside and im walking down the street wearing gloves. i can still unlock my phone and make a call.
hope it never goes away.
rizocreations said:
i dont understand the "accident" part. lol i love how i can unlock by pressing menu and by sliding. i live in chicago. when its cold as hell outside and im walking down the street wearing gloves. i can still unlock my phone and make a call.
hope it never goes away.
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Like I said, I don't want the "double menu press to unlock" function to be removed, I just want a feature to be ABLE to disable it if the end user wishes to do so.
I need an app that will put the device to sleep but will allow me to reactivate it by touching the screen.
Is there one with this functionality?
DarsVaeda said:
I need an app that will put the device to sleep but will allow me to reactivate it by touching the screen.
Is there one with this functionality?
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Nope, haven't seen one yet. It probably fail one or both of the most important criteria: sensitivity and battery conservation. I'd suspect that, especially when the first has been met admirably, the second would suffer horribly.
Is activating the dock's waking functionality not an option? (I can't recall if you have the dock.) EDIT: that's somewhere under ASUS' customized settings panel on a stock ROM. I haven't seen functionality like that on a custom ROM, though -- I'll look around as well.
No I don't have a dock.
I need it when writing with super note.
I want to quickly deactivate and reactivate the screen.
But using the button and entering the pattern is to slow.
Maybe I will program it my own if possible.
DarsVaeda said:
No I don't have a dock.
I need it when writing with super note.
I want to quickly deactivate and reactivate the screen.
But using the button and entering the pattern is to slow.
Maybe I will program it my own if possible.
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Shutting it down is easy -- Turn Off the Lights does that, for example -- but it is the detection of which I am strongly doubtful.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6275671/activate-android-with-touch-instead-of-power-button
Can anyone confirm that Smart Lock trusted face feature causes battery drain?
I'd imagine it would use at least some due to the fact it polls the camera to see your face and then runs some sort of algorithm to determine if it's your face or not. Can't comment on how much, though. I imagine that would only happen when you first wake the phone, so I'd assume not that much at all.
It certainly is a drain on my time and enjoyment of using the phone because it is a crapshoot on it working. And I still have to swipe to open the phone even if it does recognize me.
and using as smart lock the BT or WIFI places causes battery drain???
tnx
Cirkustanz said:
It certainly is a drain on my time and enjoyment of using the phone because it is a crapshoot on it working. And I still have to swipe to open the phone even if it does recognize me.
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Have you used the "improve match" feature? I've done it 5 or 6 times with all different types of lighting and now it works pretty much every time. Also, it's not meant to unlock your phone like the old face unlock did. This time around it is just used to bypass the pin or pattern lock, just like a trusted device or place. I actually prefer it this way.
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Have you used the "improve match" feature? I've done it 5 or 6 times with all different types of lighting and now it works pretty much every time. Also, it's not meant to unlock your phone like the old face unlock did. This time around it is just used to bypass the pin or pattern lock, just like a trusted device or place. I actually prefer it this way.
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Yes I have, multiple times. It doesn't work in low light of course, because the camera can't pick anything up, it is all black...as you would expect. It doesn't work at non perfect angles, and like I mentioned...in my opinion I much preferred the ability to use being connected to my wifi to disable the lock screen altogether.
Lock screen notifications are fine, but in Kitkat if I wanted them...all I needed to do was dash clock. And more importantly, it was HARDER to accidently clear them because you had to swipe to even see them. In Lollipop, the second your pants accidently turn the power button on...it can clear a notification.
I'm really thinking about going back to Kitkat.
ironia. said:
and using as smart lock the BT or WIFI places causes battery drain???
tnx
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There is no WiFi smart lock. I really wish there was. Only Bluetooth, but the location one definitely is a noticeable drain for me. I'm not sure about the BT battery usage. I finally just disabled pin for now until I can figure it out. I wish they offered WiFi smart lock. That and Bluetooth is what I used in kitkat and had no noticeable drain.
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There is no WiFi smart lock. I really wish there was. Only Bluetooth, but the location one definitely is a noticeable drain for me. I'm not sure about the BT battery usage. I finally just disabled pin for now until I can figure it out. I wish they offered WiFi smart lock. That and Bluetooth is what I used in kitkat and had no noticeable drain.
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Can be done with tasker if you have root
It could be done in Tasker using Secure Settings however Secure Settings isn't 100% compatible with Lollipop yet. I had this setup so when I was connected to my home WiFi, all I had to do was swipe to unlock. Not connected would prompt me for my pin. Worked 100% and no noticeable drain on battery.
daystrom said:
It could be done in Tasker using Secure Settings however Secure Settings isn't 100% compatible with Lollipop yet
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In Secure settings, go to Spanner > Pattern unlock method > Lock Settings (experimental)
Works much better. Only "issue" I have found is first time I turn on the screen after connecting to my wifi, it pormpts for pattern but wont unlock. Turn screen off and on again and its fine,
Last time I tried it with tasker and secure settings I had very mixed results, but I'll hover it a go again and see how it goes. Do you guy's use tasker to unlock with bt also? Or just use smart unlock for bt?
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I just tried it and it doesn't disable anything. Even just pressing the play button to disable pin. Guess I'll have to wait.
rootSU,
Thanks, I will try that.
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Last time I tried it with tasker and secure settings I had very mixed results, but I'll hover it a go again and see how it goes. Do you guy's use tasker to unlock with bt also? Or just use smart unlock for bt?
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I just tried it and it doesn't disable anything. Even just pressing the play button to disable pin. Guess I'll have to wait.
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I can't talk about PIN. I only use pattern. This works well. PIN, no idea,
rootSU said:
I can't talk about PIN. I only use pattern. This works well. PIN, no idea,
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You're right pattern lock is working perfect so far. Even with bt smart lock, which I guess I could just add in tasker too. Not sure if either uses less battery...
Anyways, thanks for heads up. Didn't realize pattern lock was under root section and pin wasn't. Maybe that's why it works? Pattern it is for me then [emoji2]
I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
It hasn't been updated since January so I imagine its just an incompatibility
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I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
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I'm on stock rooted Lollipop and I'm running into a similar issue, but with face unlock instead of trusted device.
I have double-tap on Nova Launcher set to system lock using Tasker, and when I lock my phone using that, face unlock doesn't activate, and won't until I put in my PIN password and then re-lock using the power button.
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I'm on stock rooted Lollipop and I'm running into a similar issue, but with face unlock instead of trusted device.
I have double-tap on Nova Launcher set to system lock using Tasker, and when I lock my phone using that, face unlock doesn't activate, and won't until I put in my PIN password and then re-lock using the power button.
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I also tried locking my phone using Greenify instead of Screen Off & Lock, sam result. Perhaps there is a way to implement locking the phone that won't trigger the PIN to unlock? Or - and I hope this isn't the case - maybe there is no way to do this in 5.0?
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I also tried locking my phone using Greenify instead of Screen Off & Lock, sam result. Perhaps there is a way to implement locking the phone that won't trigger the PIN to unlock? Or - and I hope this isn't the case - maybe there is no way to do this in 5.0?
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I tried messing around with screen timeout in Tasker, but it doesn't let me set it to 0 seconds (for obvious reasons, I guess haha), since I noticed that letting my screen time out seems to work just fine for triggering face unlock. The lowest I can set it to is 7 seconds though, if I remember right, which is a bit too high for a screen off function.
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I've been using Screen Off and Lock forever to lock my phone using the swipe-up-from-home-nav-button (instead of the default Google Now).
After updating to Lolipop, I started using my Moto 360 as a trusted device and enabled a PIN lock on my phone. When I lock the phone with the power button and my Moto 360 connected, no PIN screen appears when I turn the screen back on.
However, if I lock the phone using the app Screen Off and Lock, the PIN screen always comes on when I go to turn the screen back on. This defeats the whole purpose/convenience of the trusted device bypassing the PIN. Anyone know how to fix this? Or know of an app that will work better?
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Have the same issue, wait for developer to fix it.
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Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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I attached a pic of trying to do what you said in Tasker. When I run the task, nothing happens.
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I attached a pic of trying to do what you said in Tasker. When I run the task, nothing happens.
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Have you installed the latest superSU beta? The previous versions had problems with the new security features introduced by lollipop. If you're not using this latest version my solution won't work.
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Have you installed the latest superSU beta? The previous versions had problems with the new security features introduced by lollipop. If you're not using this latest version my solution won't work.
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It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
Nothing against Screen Off and Lock as it's just doing what it's designed to do (and Lock after all) but this is a useful work around, thanks.
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It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
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Oh yeah I forgot about that. First I tried it that way, but for some reason it didn't work, so thats why I use an external app But I'm glad it works for you!
spiderflash said:
Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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Thanks you guys. Now I feel more at home with Lollipop with my old habit. I couldn't stand that smart lock was disabled when I used other screen off apps (then again those haven't gotten an update for a while too).
ragnarokx said:
It worked! SuperSU beta did the trick.
Also, I didn't need a separate app to make a Home key shortcut, I just made a profile: Event -> UI -> Assistance Request -> add the Task with input keyevent 26.
Thanks!
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Yeah, there is no update yet from screen lock app developer regarding this issue ..
guess i have to use tasker trick ..
nsg86 said:
Yeah, there is no update yet from screen lock app developer regarding this issue ..
guess i have to use tasker trick ..
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There probably won't be. The app is called "... And Lock". Technically, it's doing what its supposed to.
spiderflash said:
Not sure this will be "fixed". All apps that are stating to lock the phone will actually do so, whether trusted devices are enabled or not. They act the same way as if you are on the lockscreen with the lock disabled by a trusted device and then press the lock symbol at the bottom, this also locks the device. This has been a problem forever, apps just work differently than the hardware power button.
As a fix you can try the following: Use another app to completely disable the lockscreen or keyguard (whatever your prefer) when a trusted device is connected instead of using the android built in feature.
If you are like me and want to use the new trusted devices feature of lollipop you can use Tasker as a workaround. Create a tasker task with the command "run shell --> input keyevent 26". This also requires root. Then you can use the app Home Button Launcher to set a shortcut to run the new task when swiping up. This is what I'm using and it works without any problem! I hope I could help.
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Was searching for a solution and i found this thread! Thanks a lot!
So no hope for people like me who don't use trusted devices/places but use trusted face? Because I think even tasker can't do that with trusted face unlock.
Also looking for a solution to this with trusted faces on lollipop.
Edit: If you're interested, you can follow the defect here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79735
Is there any secret to making this work better to wake up the phone. I cannot seem to hit it right to get it to unlock. Sensitivity adjust?
I like the phone otherwise.
Tap the screen quickly and firmly in the same spot two times. I have no problems with it using that method.
Train wreck for me. Double tap is horrible! I started a return through Amazon, wondering if I should try a replacement first though. I have huge lag issues too on this phone.
I am having the problem with tap to open too. There are many reviews on Amazon detailing the same thing. I sent an email to Alcatel support asking if they would be addressing this issue. I am still deciding if I want to keep the phone.
Last couple of days I have had more instances of misses with this than I had the first couple of days. But still I feel I have had better luck with the double-tap.... than many others over here so far. Usually a firm tap, with your fingers bent and the fingernails almost hitting the glass, works pretty well. But at times, even a firm tap will not work, and I have noticed that un-setting the option ( in Settings -> Gestures ) and then setting it back again gets it going again. This and the lag with loading apps may be related , and I hope Alcatel release a 5.1 update soon.
I've only had an issue with this once and a reboot fixed it. I think in some cases people are not hitting the screen firmly and quickly. Also the may not be hitting the same spot as well. I have seen other phones that use the knock unlock gesture but with a knock code and maybe some people thought they could hit the screen where ever they wanted between the 2 knocks. I'm just guessing here.
steavis00 said:
Is there any secret to making this work better to wake up the phone. I cannot seem to hit it right to get it to unlock. Sensitivity adjust?
I like the phone otherwise.
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what i did was disable the two incoming call option in gesture, now doubletap with no problem.
Turning off "Turn Over to Mute" seems to help with tapping to wake screen, but not tap to shut off screen.
Borghi said:
Turning off "Turn Over to Mute" seems to help with tapping to wake screen, but not tap to shut off screen.
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in my phone wake and shut off works perfectly fine,and i have turn off mute and the alarm.
goseup said:
in my phone wake and shut off works perfectly fine,and i have turn off mute and the alarm.
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I believe I have found the root cause of the problem. Right after I got the phone I installed Nova Launcher. I started playing around and tried switching back to the stock launcher. Immediately the double tap feature started to work consistently. Hopefully it will STAY working and Nova will update their launcher to support the double tap feature fully.
Borghi said:
I believe I have found the root cause of the problem. Right after I got the phone I installed Nova Launcher. I started playing around and tried switching back to the stock launcher. Immediately the double tap feature started to work consistently. Hopefully it will STAY working and Nova will update their launcher to support the double tap feature fully.
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I doubt if the launcher is the issue. When the screen is off the launcher is not in control of the phone, the OS is in control. Also, I use Nova Prime and have only had 1 problem with Double Tap To Wake in the past 8 days.
Shodan5150 said:
I doubt if the launcher is the issue. When the screen is off the launcher is not in control of the phone, the OS is in control. Also, I use Nova Prime and have only had 1 problem with Double Tap To Wake in the past 8 days.
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I partly agree with your statement. As I understand Nova Prime includes support for double tap. The free app does not. Using the free app I can double tap to wake the phone, but not to sleep. Using the stock launcher, both functions work perfectly. I tried installing the Google Now launcher and it was the same as the free Nova launcher. No double tap to sleep.
I am new to Xda (or forums in general), but I had tons of issues with the double tap to wake feature not working. This was a shame because everything else I loved about this phone (only other thing I would change is a slight processor boost; a Snappy 801 would be perfect). Anyways, I finally got around the issue by performing these steps:
1-In Settings, navigate to Gestures and make sure 'Turn over to mute' is unchecked and 'Turn over to activate' is disabled.
2-Don't know if this is mandatory, but I also disabled the Func shortcuts in the Lock Screen Settings as well.
3-Reboot the device and don't touch these settings again
For some reason, I think Alcatel's software was not appropriately tested with all of these functions enabled. I am not sure, I just know I am having much higher hit rates (works almost every time) after performing the above steps.
Hope it works for you guys.
Lastly, if the double tap starts having issues again, just run a reboot and it should fix it (I just had to reboot after 30+ hours of standby).
goseup said:
what i did was disable the two incoming call option in gesture, now doubletap with no problem.
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YAY, THIS THING WORKS FOR ME, NOW IT DOESN'T LAG, D2W AND D2S, USING STOCK LAUNCHER, tried using other premium launchers, problem is smart lock doesn't work
THANKS
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works well now, the only thing we need is ROOT, unlocked bootloader is easy to achieved on this phone.
Borghi said:
I believe I have found the root cause of the problem. Right after I got the phone I installed Nova Launcher. I started playing around and tried switching back to the stock launcher. Immediately the double tap feature started to work consistently. Hopefully it will STAY working and Nova will update their launcher to support the double tap feature fully.
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Nova has it's own double tap gesture. If you want it to turn off the screen then you will have to have it call a program like "screen off" to accomplish that. DT to wake is still handled by the lockscreen.
believe me i been looking for a way to make this double tap in look screen to work better, by accident i find out that tapping very lightly wake the phone all the time.
Double-tap not working for me. Running all stock, stock launcher.
Same here I can't get the double tap to work for anything, I tried turning off the features and func but nothing, my phone has its days where it works fine and other days where it just doesn't.
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My original suggestion to fix the double tap was to reboot, but I found a much quicker way. Go under gestures and turn it off and on again. Seems to work every time it gets wonky.
i notice that D2W work almost perfect while the phone on charger ...so it may be power saving mode that make the digitizer off after several minutes???!!!