Yesterday i woke up to find my tablet unresponsive. Tried force-restarting it, but it never answered. "It's probably the battery, " I told myself, as I plugged it in to the wall and went to sleep.
This morning I tried booting it up again. It doesn't respond, doesn't beep, doesn't ilumminate and doesn't answer. It is not the battery, because I have it plugged to the original adapter, and the orange light is turned on. It is not the screen, because the tablet vibrates when booting, and not even the BIOS splash appears. At this point I came to conclusion that there is something very wrong with the hardware itself.
I don't like that it died peacefully in it sleep. The exterior is inmmaculate, I have cleaned it constantly, treated it well, and never dropped it to the ground. I cared for it beyond what it's laggy NAND deserved. For me it was like the stereotyped three-legged dog: crippled but loyal to the end.
Now I believe that cheap NAND ASUS soldered into it finally gave up. Or probably it just looked at me with envy, being constantly tempted by that Nexus 9 I see constantly on the internet, and it's weak NAND couldn't handle the betrayal.
So, is there any way to diagnose if my tablet finally wen to the big server farm in the sky? Is there any way to know what's wrong? Does anyone know what to do with the keyboard and cables other than trashing them? At the very least I want to know for certain if it is dead, so I can arrange a proper burial for it, with military honors and 21 canon shots... or more likely just dumping it into the recycling bin.
PS: If it's dead I believe I will replace it with a Nexus 9, but I am waiting for AnandTech's review. Is it the correct choice or does anyone know a better 10" tablet?
Did you try booting to the bootloader? Hold Power and Volume Down at the same time.
Try the reset pin hole (just above HDMI port) with and without Volume Down.
Good luck and do me a favor: Could you take a video of the burial and post it on YouTube? Would love to see that 21 gun salute LMAO
berndblb said:
Did you try booting to the bootloader? Hold Power and Volume Down at the same time.
Try the reset pin hole (just above HDMI port) with and without Volume Down.
Good luck and do me a favor: Could you take a video of the burial and post it on YouTube? Would love to see that 21 gun salute LMAO
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It didn't work. While plugged in I pressed the V- and Power buttons, and later the Reset and Power Buttons, and later all three at the same time. Neither worked. Nothing on the screen, No vibration, nothing. Yet the orange power LED shines when plugged in, don't know if it is a good or bad thing.
I guess that a few days of perspective really allowed me to sink the death of my tab.
But my snark came from the fact that I really took good care of my tablet. It is still in pristine, yet it still died. So frustrating.
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I had to jump over some stupid fence today at my work (didn't want to go all the way around), so i asked my friend to hold my universal while i jumped.
maybe i should have held it myself, because the universal slipped from her hands, and fell down the 3 story building, hitting many many stairs on the way down.
from a first glance i thought its the end of my beautiful relationship with my uni.
but actually after opening it up and checking its insides - it looks pretty okay! nothing seems to be broken or loose...
the problem is: is won't even start. so im trying to discover where malfunction is.
i've tried:
Switching batteries
Plugging it in to a power source (computer / wall)
Dismantling body and screen, tightening all of the connectors
Bootloader mode - not showing anything
Connecting with MTTY - but i can't even get it to connect
Turned on, waited for 5 mins and called it to see if it'll ring (to eliminate screen problems) - forwards to voicemail
Nothing worked, the screen is always blank.
when i plug in a power source, a red light flashes REALLY quickly, and then goes off, after that nothing happens.
the only thing that gave me a clue its still alive somewhere inside - when i plugged it to my computer, windows alerted me i plugged in an unknown device, even when i tried to put it in BL and connect again.
Does anyone have a clue what i can do next to find where the problem lies, and bring my love back to life???
please, i need help on this.
Mine fell a few feet from my hand to the (concrete) floor and was the same - no signs of trauma but completely dead, aside from a light when connected to the charger.
I think the damage will be to the mainboard, so it's a either a case of getting a new board and fitting it, or buying another universal and selling the dead one for parts. I opted for the latter.
My Condolences!! as long you can not find some lose cable or what so ever I believe you will not able to bring your "love" back to alive.
After connecting to your Computer RED light and Your computer doesn't recognize the Device indicates major issue.
Unless you have someone that can work with JTAG. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309291
hehe, thanx for your replies.
i don't know anyone who deals with jtag, but maybe it'll be a good idea to look for a private repair lab which works with jtag.
i guess for a small amount of money they could help me find the problematic part.
i wanted to avoid sending it over to a some random repair lab, because they might turn out as just some amatures and tell me that the whole main board needs to be replaced, instead of a specific part...
so i'll start with some searching
anyone else have any more suggestions?
mine fell from my pocket and red led pops up only when connected to the charger.. i sent it to ppctechs.. they put it under the infrared oven and nothing happened, so its not lose solder nor connectors nor nothing.. its the mainboard, its hard for it to be replaced as far as component level goes.. but who knows.. personally i think just sell it for parts.. sorry, thats what i did and boutght a new one off ebay for 400
good luck and sorry to hear that..
Am I allowed to cry on this forum ????
One request to Modes... Shall we have a crying smily(?)
Hi All,
Just noting this here in case anyone gets this in the future, as I know how much Googling helps me with situations like this...
My Sensation woke me up as normal this morning with the alarm, but I went to turn it off and couldn't. The touchscreen was unresponsive.
Neither the buttons nor the screen itself seem to respond to any gesture.
I've had it on charge overnight using the charger from my HD2, and have done a bit of Googling to find the Desire and a few other models with similar issues, but only with cheapy chargers.
I've also found that it could be that it has been "over charged" and the device needs to settle the battery levels before it works. I've had it on all morning, but i can't really keep pressing the power button every few seconds to wake it up!
I have managed to get into the bootloader menu (it uses the power and volume keys fine) and have performed a factory reset - no joy.
I've also used the bootloader menu to perform a "recovery" - this ended in looking like its a hardware issue as all i had was an exclamation ( ! ) with a big red triangle over a picture of the phone. Guessing this isn't a good thing.
I've let Vodafone know, and they are sending out a new replacement tomorrow, but we shall see what happens.
I miss the damned thing already!
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Hi All,
Just noting this here in case anyone gets this in the future, as I know how much Googling helps me with situations like this...
My Sensation woke me up as normal this morning with the alarm, but I went to turn it off and couldn't. The touchscreen was unresponsive.
Neither the buttons nor the screen itself seem to respond to any gesture.
I've had it on charge overnight using the charger from my HD2, and have done a bit of Googling to find the Desire and a few other models with similar issues, but only with cheapy chargers.
I've also found that it could be that it has been "over charged" and the device needs to settle the battery levels before it works. I've had it on all morning, but i can't really keep pressing the power button every few seconds to wake it up!
I have managed to get into the bootloader menu (it uses the power and volume keys fine) and have performed a factory reset - no joy.
I've also used the bootloader menu to perform a "recovery" - this ended in looking like its a hardware issue as all i had was an exclamation ( ! ) with a big red triangle over a picture of the phone. Guessing this isn't a good thing.
I've let Vodafone know, and they are sending out a new replacement tomorrow, but we shall see what happens.
I miss the damned thing already!
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Good to hear your got it replaced.
I just can't understand how the touchscreen is related to the power adapter. The only thing I've experienced is when I tried to charge my friend's iPhone (using the apple charger) on my car inverter, the touchscreen got really crazy, was detecting taps on its own etc..
giorgisp said:
Good to hear your got it replaced.
I just can't understand how the touchscreen is related to the power adapter. The only thing I've experienced is when I tried to charge my friend's iPhone (using the apple charger) on my car inverter, the touchscreen got really crazy, was detecting taps on its own etc..
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By the looks of things its to do with magnetic or electrical fields produced by the adapters, using unshielded (i.e. cheap) adapters can negatively disturb the capacitive system. At least that is how I understand it from what I've read. (I'm not an electrical engineer or anything)
rp-x1 said:
By the looks of things its to do with magnetic or electrical fields produced by the adapters, using unshielded (i.e. cheap) adapters can negatively disturb the capacitive system. At least that is how I understand it from what I've read. (I'm not an electrical engineer or anything)
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too... But when that happened and he told me his new iphone had gone crazy and he was accusing me of breaking it with my inverters etc. I was really worried about having to get him a new phone (at least I could convert him and get him an android ) but then he disconnected it and it was ok so my heart was back in place.
Btw, the Desire was charging normally with it.
Been a watcher on the forums for awhile, now I actually had to sign up and get some help, LOL.
Anyway, dropped my s2 skyrocket, noticed that it kept trying to reboot every now and then when I used it the same day. The next day, I plugged it in in the evening, and shut off, rebooted, but the screen would go black and the phone would vibrate with 2 seconds in between vibrations. It gets to the "Samsung" word, then the screen goes black in the style of an old tube TV (with the thin white line at the end). Then the vibrations start. So far a useless phone. Took it apart and checked connections carefully (I'm used to working with processor boards quite a bit).
What do you guys suggest? Damaged memory? Should I attempt to reflash? Stuck power button (seemed ok, though)? Bad screen?
Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up. Yeah I just figured out that the i727 isn't in "Top Devices" or "Legacy," so you have to go to all forums. Ugg. Already moved. Thanks to whoever notified mod.
Anyway, yeah, any help would be AWESOME. What physical damage would prevent booting past the "Samsung" screen and default to a black screen that intermittently vibrates?
I'll be honest, if ur asking that question probably something u don't have the current skill set to fix. Try to Odin back stock, but if it started post-drop you may be SOL and in need of a new phone.
Got it into download mode after multiple failed attempts. Each time I would get it into download mode, the screen would shut off after about 5 seconds of being on. I tried several combinations of plugging it in first, then installing the battery, or holding down the button while I plugged it in with no battery, etc. I had just given up after getting it into download mode briefly for the 20th time, when I gave it one more go while rocking the on and off button. Technically that is recovery mode, but I let off right before plugging the phone in and it hit download mode and stuck.
So what I am thinking is the power button got jammed internally. I have heard of it happening on other forums. Even though it looks good and clicks upon external examination, the pressure circuit on the inside might be in contact. Anyway, just one theory.
For future though, I did discover that you don't HAVE to have the USB unplugged prior to getting into download mode. On the contrary, a power source must be present in order to register that the keys are pressed PRIOR to initiating USB input. Thus, you can actually remove the battery, plug in the USB (power source), then hold the volume keys while replacing the battery. Goes into download mode that way, too.
Will keep you guys updated. Might need a bit more help if the phone starts acting up again.
At this point, if the Download mode still holds ok, should I consider CyanogenMod, or is it easier to get back a good ROM from stock?
icenight:
Thanks for the reply. I don't understand much about smart phones or how they work, but trust me when I say I have had AMPLE experience with electronics, circuit boards, hardware, etc., particularly in the computer/laptop world. I code quite a bit of websites, and understand almost all things networking and OS. Just never really got into it with the phones.
Getting super excited to see the sheer amount of modding you can do though. Would love to break into a hardware modding world if it ever comes available. That's where it's at with electronics for me.
Well glad u got it sorted, lucky guy you are lol.
As for boards and the like, if it didn't work I would've suggested replacing the motherboard and/or power daughter board. But for a skyrocket may not be worth the money.
Since you're a hardware guy, maybe mess around with the phone and JTAG? Finding a way to unbrick without it would be very helpful
Since the problems started after a physical damage (fall) , I wonder how would Odin or wipe and flash might work !
Definitely a hardware damage...
Yeah, it kinda puzzled me, too. I believe the power button might have been internally stuck, but that's just one idea. Could have been a loose connection, too.
Can you lose some solid state memory with firmware on it, but the SS memory still be OK to right another copy on?
More than likely it was your power button
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Hi guys
Unfortunatly my time has come to have a possible hardware issue.
Yesterday my N5 was connected via USB (like I usually leave it resting at work / charging) and out of the blue, rebooted. Google logo shows up, and reboots right away. Trying VolDown + Power shows up the menu but I hardly have any time to select bootloader or recovery, and when I do, it eventually reboots again after a couple seconds.
I'm able to turn it on and have it on if I avoid touching the power button, when I do, sometimes it works (screens just turns off), sometimes ir shuts down after a few seconds after doing so. It's not always, but happens three out of five times.
Connecting the USB cable has the same behaviour, sometimes it's alright and I'm able to copy files and so on, sometimes it shuts off and there it goes into bootloop again.
So, I got home, opened it and I looked like a donkey looking at a castle lol. I had a disconnected brown wire on the right side of the battery which I was able to fix, but that doesn't seem to be the cause of the problem.
The power button feels ok, it's not exactly rattled or anything, it has on/off feeling. if you know what I mean.
Problem is, I bought this in second hand in london about 6 months ago, would be hard to RMA and probably they would give me the finger.
Anyway, suggestions? Anyone went through anything like this? I doubt it's a software issue (rom) cause the same behaviour happens when on recovery / bootloader. Sometimes it holds on and lets me do things, sometimes it doesn't. Most often, doesn't.
Any help or tips are greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys.
Back to my LG 4X
Send in for repair or replacement.
Lethargy said:
Send in for repair or replacement.
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I can't, was bought in second hand in a shop, besides I opened it and the water sensor is pinkish (never touched water, probably humidity).
I can only do that around christmas time.
Any other tip ? Something I can do before considering something like that?
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I can't, was bought in second hand in a shop, besides I opened it and the water sensor is pinkish (never touched water, probably humidity).
I can only do that around christmas time.
Any other tip ? Something I can do before considering something like that?
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By sending in for repair or replacement, I meant to LG. Not Google for RMA.
LG will charge you for the repair or replacement.
There really isn't much you can do otherwise.
Hey y'all, so I'm not sure how well hardware related questions go down on here usually, but not sure where else to ask. So I have about 2.5 Samsung Galaxy s6's. All were given to me at different stages slash periods of time and none of them exactly work fully. Where I am at now is sort of realizing that either: 1. I have to faulty digitizers, or 2. the one battery I have between them is completely shots, or 3. a combination of one and two as well as some other s*** going on.
So what I have for parts AR, two motherboards two digitizers, three bodies, and one battery. I get kind of the same issue switching between the motherboards which is this: I will plug the phones in to my computer and it will read them and say something like SM and then the numbers that represent the s6, and I'll have a either red l LED for a while which will then turn green after a while charging, or a blue LED from the get-go which I believe just stays blue the entire time. Now, the weird thing is that neither of the phones will turn on, however, whenever I push the home button with either digitizer or either motherboard, it will cause the LED to turn off, but will not cause the phone to stop being recognized by the computer. When I say recognized by the computer I don't mean it shows up in the my PC folder, like where I can access the files and such, it just shows up in the device manager, thus giving me the impression that it never actually turns on. This also happens if I end a press up on the volume at any point in time. Also worth noting whenever I unplug it from the computer or just from the charger, the phone will power off completely as in not be recognized by the computer. So, any ideas? I'm thinking of just selling the phones as is maybe for a 150 total for everything but I'd like to fix that myself if it's just something as small as a battery issue. the volume up button and the home button turn the phones off though, is what really perplexes me. Thanks for any insight, much appreciated for the read and have a good Thanksgiving.
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Hey y'all, so I'm not sure how well hardware related questions go down on here usually, but not sure where else to ask. So I have about 2.5 Samsung Galaxy s6's. All were given to me at different stages slash periods of time and none of them exactly work fully. Where I am at now is sort of realizing that either: 1. I have to faulty digitizers, or 2. the one battery I have between them is completely shots, or 3. a combination of one and two as well as some other s*** going on.
So what I have for parts AR, two motherboards two digitizers, three bodies, and one battery. I get kind of the same issue switching between the motherboards which is this: I will plug the phones in to my computer and it will read them and say something like SM and then the numbers that represent the s6, and I'll have a either red l LED for a while which will then turn green after a while charging, or a blue LED from the get-go which I believe just stays blue the entire time. Now, the weird thing is that neither of the phones will turn on, however, whenever I push the home button with either digitizer or either motherboard, it will cause the LED to turn off, but will not cause the phone to stop being recognized by the computer. When I say recognized by the computer I don't mean it shows up in the my PC folder, like where I can access the files and such, it just shows up in the device manager, thus giving me the impression that it never actually turns on. This also happens if I end a press up on the volume at any point in time. Also worth noting whenever I unplug it from the computer or just from the charger, the phone will power off completely as in not be recognized by the computer. So, any ideas? I'm thinking of just selling the phones as is maybe for a 150 total for everything but I'd like to fix that myself if it's just something as small as a battery issue. the volume up button and the home button turn the phones off though, is what really perplexes me. Thanks for any insight, much appreciated for the read and have a good Thanksgiving.
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dang man, id just sell em unless you want a winter project. I just bought a Sunfire sub that has some issues for a winter project, but thats because im a dork and i like that kind of stuff. Anyways, my opinion is just to sell it and get something else that works. I had a buddy offer me a HUGE pile of phones and their respective parts to fix them for like $200 and i gave a hard no.
Damn never heard of such an issue? I'd had hoped that the volume up key as well as the home button both restarting (or, turning the LED off for about ten seconds at least) would have been some kind of dead giveaway, if not just a straight up common occurrence, haha. I even got ANOTHER S6 last night from a homie (asked her if I could borrow the battery lol, she just gives me the whole broken phone) to try and switch out parts, which I'm gonna give a quick shot at tonight at least. But man, no responses other than hours has me quite discouraged :') lol thanks for the time to read at least tho my dude ?