Been a watcher on the forums for awhile, now I actually had to sign up and get some help, LOL.
Anyway, dropped my s2 skyrocket, noticed that it kept trying to reboot every now and then when I used it the same day. The next day, I plugged it in in the evening, and shut off, rebooted, but the screen would go black and the phone would vibrate with 2 seconds in between vibrations. It gets to the "Samsung" word, then the screen goes black in the style of an old tube TV (with the thin white line at the end). Then the vibrations start. So far a useless phone. Took it apart and checked connections carefully (I'm used to working with processor boards quite a bit).
What do you guys suggest? Damaged memory? Should I attempt to reflash? Stuck power button (seemed ok, though)? Bad screen?
Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up. Yeah I just figured out that the i727 isn't in "Top Devices" or "Legacy," so you have to go to all forums. Ugg. Already moved. Thanks to whoever notified mod.
Anyway, yeah, any help would be AWESOME. What physical damage would prevent booting past the "Samsung" screen and default to a black screen that intermittently vibrates?
I'll be honest, if ur asking that question probably something u don't have the current skill set to fix. Try to Odin back stock, but if it started post-drop you may be SOL and in need of a new phone.
Got it into download mode after multiple failed attempts. Each time I would get it into download mode, the screen would shut off after about 5 seconds of being on. I tried several combinations of plugging it in first, then installing the battery, or holding down the button while I plugged it in with no battery, etc. I had just given up after getting it into download mode briefly for the 20th time, when I gave it one more go while rocking the on and off button. Technically that is recovery mode, but I let off right before plugging the phone in and it hit download mode and stuck.
So what I am thinking is the power button got jammed internally. I have heard of it happening on other forums. Even though it looks good and clicks upon external examination, the pressure circuit on the inside might be in contact. Anyway, just one theory.
For future though, I did discover that you don't HAVE to have the USB unplugged prior to getting into download mode. On the contrary, a power source must be present in order to register that the keys are pressed PRIOR to initiating USB input. Thus, you can actually remove the battery, plug in the USB (power source), then hold the volume keys while replacing the battery. Goes into download mode that way, too.
Will keep you guys updated. Might need a bit more help if the phone starts acting up again.
At this point, if the Download mode still holds ok, should I consider CyanogenMod, or is it easier to get back a good ROM from stock?
icenight:
Thanks for the reply. I don't understand much about smart phones or how they work, but trust me when I say I have had AMPLE experience with electronics, circuit boards, hardware, etc., particularly in the computer/laptop world. I code quite a bit of websites, and understand almost all things networking and OS. Just never really got into it with the phones.
Getting super excited to see the sheer amount of modding you can do though. Would love to break into a hardware modding world if it ever comes available. That's where it's at with electronics for me.
Well glad u got it sorted, lucky guy you are lol.
As for boards and the like, if it didn't work I would've suggested replacing the motherboard and/or power daughter board. But for a skyrocket may not be worth the money.
Since you're a hardware guy, maybe mess around with the phone and JTAG? Finding a way to unbrick without it would be very helpful
Since the problems started after a physical damage (fall) , I wonder how would Odin or wipe and flash might work !
Definitely a hardware damage...
Yeah, it kinda puzzled me, too. I believe the power button might have been internally stuck, but that's just one idea. Could have been a loose connection, too.
Can you lose some solid state memory with firmware on it, but the SS memory still be OK to right another copy on?
More than likely it was your power button
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Soo I have a big problem,
My sidekick 4g suddenly shut off and directly went into Download Bootloader. It would only stay in that window for about 3 seconds then restart. So I tried doing Odin but it would never stay in download mode long enough. After a while, the phone stopped turning on and now it does not even charge. I believe I have hard bricked the phone. When I leave it on the charger. I see no indication that it is charging but the battery gets warm. Is there any hope for me to fix this phone?
Please let me know ASAP. Thanks!
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Soo I have a big problem,
My sidekick 4g suddenly shut off and directly went into Download Bootloader. It would only stay in that window for about 3 seconds then restart. So I tried doing Odin but it would never stay in download mode long enough. After a while, the phone stopped turning on and now it does not even charge. I believe I have hard bricked the phone. When I leave it on the charger. I see no indication that it is charging but the battery gets warm. Is there any hope for me to fix this phone?
Please let me know ASAP. Thanks!
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Does the device even show up as a USB vendor/product id? See that with `lsusb` on Linux or the Device Manager on Windows.
It might be worth trying ayoteddy's FOOL PROOF WAY TO GET INTO DOWNLOAD MODE here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186954
Perhaps if you trigger the phone to enter download mode that way, it won't just continually reboot...
Beyond that, I think you'll be looking at hardware-level fixes. If the phone isn't literally fried, it can almost certainly be repaired with JTAG. But that would involve a JTAG interface which I am guessing you don't already have.
You might be able to find someone who will JTAG for you for free, or for a fee. A local phone repair shop might have this capability.
If you're damn good with a soldering iron, or have a friend who is, there's also AdamOutler's "UnbrickableMod":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347984
That mod is not for the feint of heart, you need to take the phone almost entirely apart and do soldering work within the area of a grain of rice... but it is possible.
But all the options assume that the only problem with the device is a bad flash -- damaged boot loader, bad kernel/recovery, etc. The way you describe your phone's demise, a hardware failure certainly seems like a possibility.
Good luck, I hope your device is not dead.
FWIW, SK4G goes for ~$100-200 on eBay these days depending on condition. Locally you could probably find lower prices.
Wow thanks for all the info but i tried ayoteddy. Since the phone doesnt even power on , i cant do what teddy says. And no, after a few failed odins, the comp doesn't even see the phone. But that's also because the phone doesn't turn on. I even put a charged bat. Still no go
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Wow thanks for all the info but i tried ayoteddy. Since the phone doesnt even power on , i cant do what teddy says. And no, after a few failed odins, the comp doesn't even see the phone. But that's also because the phone doesn't turn on. I even put a charged bat. Still no go
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It really sounds like a hardware failure.
If you are committed to trying everything to rescue your particular device, you could double down and try a new battery. You risk wasting whatever money you spend on it, of course.
If I recall correctly, the SK4G can't operate properly without some battery current, even when plugged into USB. And the other symptoms seem to leave the door open on battery problems -- sudden power down, brief signs of life which eventually cease, hot battery. The sudden failure of a lithium battery would hardly be unusual.
I have seen an issue very similar to this before. It turned out to be a loose connection inside the phone. Might want to disassemble and reassemble carefully to ensure that the connections are secure. Youtube has dis-assembly videos to guide you. You don't have to completely disassemble the phone, just til you reach the main board and secure the connections to it. If you don't feel like you can hand the task of dis-assembly you could always search for a local phone repair business, or even computer repair shop (they often do some phone repairs). Hope this helps
Hey there, I am trying to fix a SK4G with the exact same problems... download mode will show up, but then the screen will go blank again. I'm gonna look into what blk2dr suggested... did you ever fix yours, OP?
root? so Warranty it, not saying its the most "ethical way"
out of curiosity what was the last, well as samsung would put it, hac...ERRRR unsupported warranty voiding modification known to us as upgrade/flash eg. via cwm odin rom app add on modem kernel etc. that was done to the ol SK? or is it just straight up faulty craftsmanship from samsung...nooooo on a SK4g??? is that possible? lol moving a rom around from folder to root of sd once (zip prev passed md5 check) my 2nd or was it 3rd t839 had a lil hiccup that i didnt realize at the time made my custom Roms zip like 47kb smaller then it previously was and should of been, when flashing is 2nd nature and ur just moving it within the same sd card its already checked out on the md5 sum and ur dealing with a 200+/-mb file, whos gonna notice that minor change? to make a really long story just kinda long, into voodoo cwm flash, let it marinate... phone ran great for 4 days, then i decided i was going to clear cache davlik fix permish and reboot...yea went into cwm wiped wiped and half way thru fix permish phone crashed rebooted back into recov, when i tried to reboot sys it had your same exact issue. DL mode for just a second...then all black yet slightly backlit screen. could never get it to stay long enuff to odin back to stock, fullproof DL mode was a no go and of course the battery died, wouldnt recharge. i played dumb went to tmo store dude tesed phone with new batt my batt in other sk etc etc...anyways he charged my battery up enuff it flared back into dl mode for a few sec...my fix? hours and days headin into weeks of jackin with this thing i went with my cure all root REUPwarranty fix...flash a bad freakin bootloader thru odin and kill it once ad for all, DL mode only needs to be on about 4 sec, not long enough to go back to stock rom but long enuff to kill that B. prefered bootloader is i9000 haha works like a champ everytime to every rooted phone that had issues i needed a warranty exchange on(only been 4) seeing how i get a new phone every 3months on avg and always pay full price the ratio is tiny. yeah i know the trickle down effect raising costs from manufacture in long run yadayada. all is true, but i figure ive been kicked in the groin so many times by samsung,lg,moto,htc etc they can eat 1 every now and then. as a tmo employee in 07/08 i paid 500 upfront for the mda that got back ordered for 6 months had 2 bad dead spots in the touch screen within a month and screen went completely white in 3mnths. some employee/warranty fine print screwed me out of a new phone. and dont even get me started on the sidekick. 399 bucks for a phone that basically got abandoned 3 months later cuz it was junk compared to what it should be and breaks in high quanities. theyll still tax u 20 bucks and make u keep ur old battery and cover charger etc so im not losin any sleep, for real kill it for good, run it to the store get ur new err rebuilt refurb SK4g in 2 days then save up for a t989 s2 dl gmote/spashtop and poweramp on ur SK4g and let her roll as a wireless keyboard/mousepad for ur pc and let the voodoo and Pamp rock as a killer mp3 player. thats all the T-urd-839 is really good for anyways, oh yea and a mediocre bt controller for playin games on my S2's lol do the warranty, its samsung/TMOs fault for lettin this junk product get released, abandoning it and overcharging so many of us. Just do it, do it lol
pull battery, connect usb, hold power, volume up, volume down, camera, and tackpad and insert battery. It should FORCE the phone into download mode.
try it lol~
This has been happening for a few days now, the phone turns off and endlessly vibrates until I pull the battery, and then it does it again and again but it'll work for a few hours before it happens again... I've tried different roms but its still happening and it's getting very frustrating
does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket
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does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket
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I'm back on gingerbread now cuz ICS was unstable and im not overclocked
Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
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Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
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You mean like physically? Seems fine the phone just starts doing it randomly while it's just sitting on the bed. Right now it's not even turning on at all no matter what I try :/
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Here is one example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
I know there is a good one that goes through the logic of it... but the symptoms seem the same.
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It's in download mode now, I'm going to try downloading stock Rogers ICS and see if the problem persists, if it does I still have 5 months of warranty so hopefully that'll be covered
Ok. You can try jamming on the power button repeatedly too...
Good luck!
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Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?
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Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?
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EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in
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EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in
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no.
try this test, when it goes through the bootloop, keep the power button depressed w/out releasing it and see if it displays the same charactersistics as your bootloops, also count the seconds each situation has, if they are the same then the problem is the sticky power button
As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.
It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
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It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
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well if it never turns on, then its not the sticky power button problem, the sticky power button has a reboot symptom at a consistent interval
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As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.
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Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha
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Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha
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I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.
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i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob
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I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.
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i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob
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Flash counter is at 0, I checked when I managed to get into Download mode before it stopped working altogether. Juggernaut 5 is a rom for the Hercules (T989) and that's not the problem, I've used it before and I only flashed it after the problem started because I thought ICS was the problem, but it stayed even after flashing Juggernaut.
so what did u end up doing, fool around w/the power button or did u bring it in
Alright guys, I had a conversation in Ax's "Run ROMs on different Carriers" thread, but I really want to get to the bottom of my issue, whether it be a hardware issue, ROM related, OR user related.
I've been having an issue with my phone the past few days. Started out it would read "invalid sim, need to reboot" or something along that. Anyways this was after flashing a nightly and I figured, OK, it's a nightly i'll live with it. Eventually my phone just started to power off/reboot all by itself; not real consistent but it was happening more than I would like. Today, the S*&% really hit the fan. I flashed a nightly Wednesday night(i'm not going to say which one, because i'm not sure if it was from the ROM itself or if this was a hardware issue). Anyways, Friday at about noon or so, I open a game to play on my lunch break, I get distracted so I lock my phone to attend to something else. I go back to my phone and it is powered off, now totally unresponsive to anything. I pull battery and try to restart, when I place the battery back in the phone it automatically reboots(WITHOUT ANY BUTTON PRESS) I thought to myself ok this is kind of weird. I try rebooting by using power+vol up...absolutely nothing, it's just a brick. Well, I pull the battery again, hold vol up thinking it will go into recovery...nope, it will boot for a sec or two, just enough to get the blue lettering on the top left of the screen then shuts off again. OK, let's put this b*&*h into download mode and see what happens. it goes into DL mode, all the way to the point of where it says " do not turn target off" then shuts down. I did both of these multiple times, with different batteries as well, plugged in and not. It won't stay on for a computer to recognize it. Someone suggested a stuck power button, I don't think so; it feels the same as it always has.
I was fortunate enough to be able to get another S4 with a busted screen so I switched out motherboards. I have a working phone again...which is all I was worried about. I've flashed quite a few ROMs, I follow procedure to the T when flashing... What do you guys think...hardware issue...user issue...ROM issue? I'm very curious to know because I don't want this happening again, obviously. I would even send the phone out to someone to play with(mind you, the screen doesn't work and the silver bezel is crappy because I just used my original one).
I would say stay away from whatever ROM you flashed. This could also be a hardware issue. I had my old note just randomly shut off on me and was unresponsive as well. Finally got it to boot and reset it. But in your case I would stay away from that ROM and maybe find something more stable. So as this is unknown to what happened I would not blame either. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
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Alright guys, I had a conversation in Ax's "Run ROMs on different Carriers" thread, but I really want to get to the bottom of my issue, whether it be a hardware issue, ROM related, OR user related.
I've been having an issue with my phone the past few days. Started out it would read "invalid sim, need to reboot" or something along that. Anyways this was after flashing a nightly and I figured, OK, it's a nightly i'll live with it. Eventually my phone just started to power off/reboot all by itself; not real consistent but it was happening more than I would like. Today, the S*&% really hit the fan. I flashed a nightly Wednesday night(i'm not going to say which one, because i'm not sure if it was from the ROM itself or if this was a hardware issue). Anyways, Friday at about noon or so, I open a game to play on my lunch break, I get distracted so I lock my phone to attend to something else. I go back to my phone and it is powered off, now totally unresponsive to anything. I pull battery and try to restart, when I place the battery back in the phone it automatically reboots(WITHOUT ANY BUTTON PRESS) I thought to myself ok this is kind of weird. I try rebooting by using power+vol up...absolutely nothing, it's just a brick. Well, I pull the battery again, hold vol up thinking it will go into recovery...nope, it will boot for a sec or two, just enough to get the blue lettering on the top left of the screen then shuts off again. OK, let's put this b*&*h into download mode and see what happens. it goes into DL mode, all the way to the point of where it says " do not turn target off" then shuts down. I did both of these multiple times, with different batteries as well, plugged in and not. It won't stay on for a computer to recognize it. Someone suggested a stuck power button, I don't think so; it feels the same as it always has.
I was fortunate enough to be able to get another S4 with a busted screen so I switched out motherboards. I have a working phone again...which is all I was worried about. I've flashed quite a few ROMs, I follow procedure to the T when flashing... What do you guys think...hardware issue...user issue...ROM issue? I'm very curious to know because I don't want this happening again, obviously. I would even send the phone out to someone to play with(mind you, the screen doesn't work and the silver bezel is crappy because I just used my original one).
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Im saying nothing for sure, but a stuck power button feels just like normal. I had this issue on two separate samsung phones (they are known for this issue). I thought it was just bs, but i decided to tear it down and check. I used a q-tip and everclear and got plenty in there, wiggled and pressed the button for around five minutes. Re assembled, put the battery in and sure enough, the problem was gone. You cant always feel the button sticking. But hey, if you are offering the remains up, ill take em! I would gladly pay $200 for a replacement screen for it to test on.
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Im saying nothing for sure, but a stuck power button feels just like normal. I had this issue on two separate samsung phones (they are known for this issue). I thought it was just bs, but i decided to tear it down and check. I used a q-tip and everclear and got plenty in there, wiggled and pressed the button for around five minutes. Re assembled, put the battery in and sure enough, the problem was gone. You cant always feel the button sticking. But hey, if you are offering the remains up, ill take em! I would gladly pay $200 for a replacement screen for it to test on.
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Someone beat you to it, Rebel, sorry...just took the first poster or PM that I got. I got the message overnight otherwise I would have posted in here.
I kinda played with the power button when it was tore down, however I didn't use any alcohol on it but that is a good idea.
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Edit: Used some IPA on the power button this morning, soaked it pretty well, pressed the button many many times with varying pressure, with a hard pointy object etc. etc., jiggled side to side, tried every option I could to get it unstuck (if that's what it is) and still doing the exact same thing.
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Mods, I'd like to politely request this thread to be closed...no use for it now. Thanks.
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So I've tried factory wiping and installing a few different roms and no matter which one I go to I keep getting these random reboots. This is particularly troubling when I restore an older rom that I know I was not having this particular issue on.
It is making my phone pretty close to unusable since it will often go into an "Optimizing apps!" speil draining battery and taking an obnoxiously long time to reboot. Not sure what is up. Any suggestions?
Snow_fox said:
So I've tried factory wiping and installing a few different roms and no matter which one I go to I keep getting these random reboots. This is particularly troubling when I restore an older rom that I know I was not having this particular issue on.
It is making my phone pretty close to unusable since it will often go into an "Optimizing apps!" speil draining battery and taking an obnoxiously long time to reboot. Not sure what is up. Any suggestions?
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Try with a clean flash (or the factory images) without user data/modifications and see if your RRs are still there.
Is the power button stuck by any chance?
Primokorn said:
Try with a clean flash (or the factory images) without user data/modifications and see if your RRs are still there.
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I've factory reset a few times and wiped everything except internal storage pretty much. Even tried wiping user data just to see if it would help
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Is the power button stuck by any chance?
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I don't think it's getting stuck it still seems to go in and out properly. I even took it out the case just to make sure there wasn't something I couldnt' seee putting pressure on it
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I've factory reset a few times and wiped everything except internal storage pretty much. Even tried wiping user data just to see if it would help
I don't think it's getting stuck it still seems to go in and out properly. I even took it out the case just to make sure there wasn't something I couldnt' seee putting pressure on it
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The button will NOT seem to be stuck, even if it is, as the contact is made internally. My bro´s Nexus had this problem, and by the end it kept rebooting constantly because the button was making contact on its own. I fixed it by tapping vigorously at the area between the power button and the camera and that made it work.
A way to know if it is stuck could be to press the volume down key as soon as it restarts, if it goes into recovery, then there is no doubt the power button is stuck.
Don´t dismiss hardware problems, as many Nexus are affected by the power button issue and you already tried software solutions which didn´t work.
Hope you sort it out. Remember to use an app to avoid pressing the button so much, such as when waking the device. I recommend Gravity Screen, but there are many other options.
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The button will NOT seem to be stuck, even if it is, as the contact is made internally. My bro´s Nexus had this problem, and by the end it kept rebooting constantly because the button was making contact on its own. I fixed it by tapping vigorously at the area between the power button and the camera and that made it work.
A way to know if it is stuck could be to press the volume down key as soon as it restarts, if it goes into recovery, then there is no doubt the power button is stuck.
Don´t dismiss hardware problems, as many Nexus are affected by the power button issue and you already tried software solutions which didn´t work.
Hope you sort it out. Remember to use an app to avoid pressing the button so much, such as when waking the device. I recommend Gravity Screen, but there are many other options.
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Holding down volume after one reset actually put me into recovery. Plus it's restarting at times in recovery now :/
I doubt it's under warranty since I got it in feb 2014 x.x
Snow_fox said:
Holding down volume after one reset actually put me into recovery. Plus it's restarting at times in recovery now :/
I doubt it's under warranty since I got it in feb 2014 x.x
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If you got it directly from Google, I'd try calling them up and asking for a replacement even if you are a few months off the warranty period, I have read some stories of them honoring warranties in order to get rid of stock. That'd be true even now that the new Nexus is supposedly releasing this year. Nothing wrong with trying, you might get a new, shiny phone.
That being said, don't worry, it's perfectly fixable. The part that gets stuck is not the button itself, but the part that goes into the motherboard, so don't bother fiddling with the black button. I managed to fix my brother's button by doing the following:
- Clean the area between the button and phone of debris or any dirt that could be causing it to be stuck. This is just to be on the safe side, as it is unlikely that it is the cause of the malfunction.
- Take the case off the phone if you haven't, and then put it upside down and tap vigorously with your fingers in the area between the camera and the power button. It might not work the first few times, but it eventually will release the part that is stuck.
- As soon as you can get it to turn on without rebooting itself, install Gravity Screen, or any other app that replaces the power button to wake up or turn the screen off. You are looking to use the button as few times as possible.
After doing that, his Nexus went for being unusable due to constant reboots to working fine. It's been almost 6 months since it happened so it is bound to work, just don't lose heart and patiently work at it. Tap a bit harder if it's not working. Let us know whether you managed to fix it.
simonarturo said:
The button will NOT seem to be stuck, even if it is, as the contact is made internally. My bro´s Nexus had this problem, and by the end it kept rebooting constantly because the button was making contact on its own. I fixed it by tapping vigorously at the area between the power button and the camera and that made it work.
A way to know if it is stuck could be to press the volume down key as soon as it restarts, if it goes into recovery, then there is no doubt the power button is stuck.
Don´t dismiss hardware problems, as many Nexus are affected by the power button issue and you already tried software solutions which didn´t work.
Hope you sort it out. Remember to use an app to avoid pressing the button so much, such as when waking the device. I recommend Gravity Screen, but there are many other options.
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simonarturo said:
If you got it directly from Google, I'd try calling them up and asking for a replacement even if you are a few months off the warranty period, I have read some stories of them honoring warranties in order to get rid of stock. That'd be true even now that the new Nexus is supposedly releasing this year. Nothing wrong with trying, you might get a new, shiny phone.
That being said, don't worry, it's perfectly fixable. The part that gets stuck is not the button itself, but the part that goes into the motherboard, so don't bother fiddling with the black button. I managed to fix my brother's button by doing the following:
- Clean the area between the button and phone of debris or any dirt that could be causing it to be stuck. This is just to be on the safe side, as it is unlikely that it is the cause of the malfunction.
- Take the case off the phone if you haven't, and then put it upside down and tap vigorously with your fingers in the area between the camera and the power button. It might not work the first few times, but it eventually will release the part that is stuck.
- As soon as you can get it to turn on without rebooting itself, install Gravity Screen, or any other app that replaces the power button to wake up or turn the screen off. You are looking to use the button as few times as possible.
After doing that, his Nexus went for being unusable due to constant reboots to working fine. It's been almost 6 months since it happened so it is bound to work, just don't lose heart and patiently work at it. Tap a bit harder if it's not working. Let us know whether you managed to fix it.
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I'm going to get in contact with google. I tried pushing down on the area between the camera and it didn't help much. It has started working again properly after a really peculiar work around. I just don't want to have to be super cautious of a button for the rest of the time i own my device :/
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I'm going to get in contact with google. I tried pushing down on the area between the camera and it didn't help much. It has started working again properly after a really peculiar work around. I just don't want to have to be super cautious of a button for the rest of the time i own my device :/
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Please detail the peculiar work around you mention...
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mazubo said:
Please detail the peculiar work around you mention...
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Well someone mentioned maybe trying to clean it out somehow. I tried canned air and that didn't do anything so I formed a seal over the button using my mouth and then proceeded to exhale. It has yet to give me any trouble since then.
Had exactly the same issue, reboots over and over again, couldn't boot to bootloader without reboot...
What helped for me was something I read somewhere else, don't remember where, was knocking on the back cover between camera lense and the power switch, did it 4 days ago and it works since than..
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I formed a seal over the button using my mouth and then proceeded to exhale.
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Sounds sexual
You can take the back cover off, and if you are careful there is no sticker or seal that would tell google you have opened the device. It is difficult to pull all the way off, the vibration motor is attached to the case back and comes off with it so it would seem stuck. You just have to keep pulling.
aaargh777 said:
Had exactly the same issue, reboots over and over again, couldn't boot to bootloader without reboot...
What helped for me was something I read somewhere else, don't remember where, was knocking on the back cover between camera lense and the power switch, did it 4 days ago and it works since than..
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Pressing on the area between the camera and the on switch seems to help a lot of people it didn't seems ot have much of an effect for me. While my phone hasn't given me issues since shortly after I posted this thread I'm kinda worried I'm one drop away from the issue coming back
dicecuber said:
Sounds sexual
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No way to avoid it sounding that way I fear.
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You can take the back cover off, and if you are careful there is no sticker or seal that would tell google you have opened the device. It is difficult to pull all the way off, the vibration motor is attached to the case back and comes off with it so it would seem stuck. You just have to keep pulling.
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Would this allow me to repair it?
Yeah but you'd need to unscrew a plastic cover that is inside the phone. Phillips head screws, jewelers screwdriver size. Depends on if its dirt or a broken switch though.
fwayfarer said:
Yeah but you'd need to unscrew a plastic cover that is inside the phone. Phillips head screws, jewelers screwdriver size. Depends on if its dirt or a broken switch though.
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Sorry to disappoint everyone but this is a widespread problem that google is aware of fro some time now. It's not the power button but it's burried deep in the software and appreas to have popped up right after the Lollipop 5.1 up date. Check out all the posts on Google
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/IJSOuc7gw0w[376-400]
While it apprears to be confined to the Nexus 5 I have had it happen with my nexus 4 just running stock L 5.1
I hope that casts some light on it
Weirdly enough, my power button works flawlessly on 5 and 5.1. Red 32gb from the google play store. I've opened the case multiple times and put Arctic silver knockoff heat compound in sloppily and without regard, no issues other than sprint screwing up their spark LTE rollout.
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Sorry to disappoint everyone but this is a widespread problem that google is aware of fro some time now. It's not the power button but it's burried deep in the software and appreas to have popped up right after the Lollipop 5.1 up date. Check out all the posts on Google
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/IJSOuc7gw0w[376-400]
While it apprears to be confined to the Nexus 5 I have had it happen with my nexus 4 just running stock L 5.1
I hope that casts some light on it
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Sorry, I disagree. While some instances might be related to software, it has been proven that there is in fact a problem with the physical button getting stuck on Nexus 5 phones. You can check it online and will find lots of hits and even YouTube videos, most of them around the time before lollipop.
Best way to check whether it is software or hardware is to press the volume down key when your phone reboots by itself. If it takes you to the recovery, you can bet your cat that it is not lollipop's fault
So I'm suspecting that I have the wonky power button too but.....
I haven't been able to get it to go to recovery when pressing power down and I've defintely had a few restarts very recently.
More importantly, and something that I haven't seen anyone else post about; more often than not my N5 just shuts down. It's usually when I've doing something with the phone (today was flicking through my GPM library). I'll power it back on and it will boot cleanly and then (more often than not) power down again. Other times it will bootloop, but that's rare. It seems to me that if I let it boot up and then don't touch it for a while, it will stay up but I'm not sure that's consistent.
Anyone else seen or heard of the power button causing a powerdown instead of bootloop?
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So I'm suspecting that I have the wonky power button too but.....
I haven't been able to get it to go to recovery when pressing power down and I've defintely had a few restarts very recently.
More importantly, and something that I haven't seen anyone else post about; more often than not my N5 just shuts down. It's usually when I've doing something with the phone (today was flicking through my GPM library). I'll power it back on and it will boot cleanly and then (more often than not) power down again. Other times it will bootloop, but that's rare. It seems to me that if I let it boot up and then don't touch it for a while, it will stay up but I'm not sure that's consistent.
Anyone else seen or heard of the power button causing a powerdown instead of bootloop?
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You will need to troubleshoot this the old-fashioned way. Have you installed any updates, apps, mods or anything recently?
Best case scenario would be that you flash a stock image without restoring apps, kernel or any mods. Run the phone for some time, couple of days or so, and be on the lookout for power downs or reboots. After that, you can try adding a few apps at a time and keep checking. If the phone reboots even with a clean factory image, then I'd have to say the hardware is faulty. Could be the power button, could be something else.
Try it out and let us know
Hey y'all, so I'm not sure how well hardware related questions go down on here usually, but not sure where else to ask. So I have about 2.5 Samsung Galaxy s6's. All were given to me at different stages slash periods of time and none of them exactly work fully. Where I am at now is sort of realizing that either: 1. I have to faulty digitizers, or 2. the one battery I have between them is completely shots, or 3. a combination of one and two as well as some other s*** going on.
So what I have for parts AR, two motherboards two digitizers, three bodies, and one battery. I get kind of the same issue switching between the motherboards which is this: I will plug the phones in to my computer and it will read them and say something like SM and then the numbers that represent the s6, and I'll have a either red l LED for a while which will then turn green after a while charging, or a blue LED from the get-go which I believe just stays blue the entire time. Now, the weird thing is that neither of the phones will turn on, however, whenever I push the home button with either digitizer or either motherboard, it will cause the LED to turn off, but will not cause the phone to stop being recognized by the computer. When I say recognized by the computer I don't mean it shows up in the my PC folder, like where I can access the files and such, it just shows up in the device manager, thus giving me the impression that it never actually turns on. This also happens if I end a press up on the volume at any point in time. Also worth noting whenever I unplug it from the computer or just from the charger, the phone will power off completely as in not be recognized by the computer. So, any ideas? I'm thinking of just selling the phones as is maybe for a 150 total for everything but I'd like to fix that myself if it's just something as small as a battery issue. the volume up button and the home button turn the phones off though, is what really perplexes me. Thanks for any insight, much appreciated for the read and have a good Thanksgiving.
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Hey y'all, so I'm not sure how well hardware related questions go down on here usually, but not sure where else to ask. So I have about 2.5 Samsung Galaxy s6's. All were given to me at different stages slash periods of time and none of them exactly work fully. Where I am at now is sort of realizing that either: 1. I have to faulty digitizers, or 2. the one battery I have between them is completely shots, or 3. a combination of one and two as well as some other s*** going on.
So what I have for parts AR, two motherboards two digitizers, three bodies, and one battery. I get kind of the same issue switching between the motherboards which is this: I will plug the phones in to my computer and it will read them and say something like SM and then the numbers that represent the s6, and I'll have a either red l LED for a while which will then turn green after a while charging, or a blue LED from the get-go which I believe just stays blue the entire time. Now, the weird thing is that neither of the phones will turn on, however, whenever I push the home button with either digitizer or either motherboard, it will cause the LED to turn off, but will not cause the phone to stop being recognized by the computer. When I say recognized by the computer I don't mean it shows up in the my PC folder, like where I can access the files and such, it just shows up in the device manager, thus giving me the impression that it never actually turns on. This also happens if I end a press up on the volume at any point in time. Also worth noting whenever I unplug it from the computer or just from the charger, the phone will power off completely as in not be recognized by the computer. So, any ideas? I'm thinking of just selling the phones as is maybe for a 150 total for everything but I'd like to fix that myself if it's just something as small as a battery issue. the volume up button and the home button turn the phones off though, is what really perplexes me. Thanks for any insight, much appreciated for the read and have a good Thanksgiving.
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dang man, id just sell em unless you want a winter project. I just bought a Sunfire sub that has some issues for a winter project, but thats because im a dork and i like that kind of stuff. Anyways, my opinion is just to sell it and get something else that works. I had a buddy offer me a HUGE pile of phones and their respective parts to fix them for like $200 and i gave a hard no.
Damn never heard of such an issue? I'd had hoped that the volume up key as well as the home button both restarting (or, turning the LED off for about ten seconds at least) would have been some kind of dead giveaway, if not just a straight up common occurrence, haha. I even got ANOTHER S6 last night from a homie (asked her if I could borrow the battery lol, she just gives me the whole broken phone) to try and switch out parts, which I'm gonna give a quick shot at tonight at least. But man, no responses other than hours has me quite discouraged :') lol thanks for the time to read at least tho my dude ?