Alright guys, I had a conversation in Ax's "Run ROMs on different Carriers" thread, but I really want to get to the bottom of my issue, whether it be a hardware issue, ROM related, OR user related.
I've been having an issue with my phone the past few days. Started out it would read "invalid sim, need to reboot" or something along that. Anyways this was after flashing a nightly and I figured, OK, it's a nightly i'll live with it. Eventually my phone just started to power off/reboot all by itself; not real consistent but it was happening more than I would like. Today, the S*&% really hit the fan. I flashed a nightly Wednesday night(i'm not going to say which one, because i'm not sure if it was from the ROM itself or if this was a hardware issue). Anyways, Friday at about noon or so, I open a game to play on my lunch break, I get distracted so I lock my phone to attend to something else. I go back to my phone and it is powered off, now totally unresponsive to anything. I pull battery and try to restart, when I place the battery back in the phone it automatically reboots(WITHOUT ANY BUTTON PRESS) I thought to myself ok this is kind of weird. I try rebooting by using power+vol up...absolutely nothing, it's just a brick. Well, I pull the battery again, hold vol up thinking it will go into recovery...nope, it will boot for a sec or two, just enough to get the blue lettering on the top left of the screen then shuts off again. OK, let's put this b*&*h into download mode and see what happens. it goes into DL mode, all the way to the point of where it says " do not turn target off" then shuts down. I did both of these multiple times, with different batteries as well, plugged in and not. It won't stay on for a computer to recognize it. Someone suggested a stuck power button, I don't think so; it feels the same as it always has.
I was fortunate enough to be able to get another S4 with a busted screen so I switched out motherboards. I have a working phone again...which is all I was worried about. I've flashed quite a few ROMs, I follow procedure to the T when flashing... What do you guys think...hardware issue...user issue...ROM issue? I'm very curious to know because I don't want this happening again, obviously. I would even send the phone out to someone to play with(mind you, the screen doesn't work and the silver bezel is crappy because I just used my original one).
I would say stay away from whatever ROM you flashed. This could also be a hardware issue. I had my old note just randomly shut off on me and was unresponsive as well. Finally got it to boot and reset it. But in your case I would stay away from that ROM and maybe find something more stable. So as this is unknown to what happened I would not blame either. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
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Alright guys, I had a conversation in Ax's "Run ROMs on different Carriers" thread, but I really want to get to the bottom of my issue, whether it be a hardware issue, ROM related, OR user related.
I've been having an issue with my phone the past few days. Started out it would read "invalid sim, need to reboot" or something along that. Anyways this was after flashing a nightly and I figured, OK, it's a nightly i'll live with it. Eventually my phone just started to power off/reboot all by itself; not real consistent but it was happening more than I would like. Today, the S*&% really hit the fan. I flashed a nightly Wednesday night(i'm not going to say which one, because i'm not sure if it was from the ROM itself or if this was a hardware issue). Anyways, Friday at about noon or so, I open a game to play on my lunch break, I get distracted so I lock my phone to attend to something else. I go back to my phone and it is powered off, now totally unresponsive to anything. I pull battery and try to restart, when I place the battery back in the phone it automatically reboots(WITHOUT ANY BUTTON PRESS) I thought to myself ok this is kind of weird. I try rebooting by using power+vol up...absolutely nothing, it's just a brick. Well, I pull the battery again, hold vol up thinking it will go into recovery...nope, it will boot for a sec or two, just enough to get the blue lettering on the top left of the screen then shuts off again. OK, let's put this b*&*h into download mode and see what happens. it goes into DL mode, all the way to the point of where it says " do not turn target off" then shuts down. I did both of these multiple times, with different batteries as well, plugged in and not. It won't stay on for a computer to recognize it. Someone suggested a stuck power button, I don't think so; it feels the same as it always has.
I was fortunate enough to be able to get another S4 with a busted screen so I switched out motherboards. I have a working phone again...which is all I was worried about. I've flashed quite a few ROMs, I follow procedure to the T when flashing... What do you guys think...hardware issue...user issue...ROM issue? I'm very curious to know because I don't want this happening again, obviously. I would even send the phone out to someone to play with(mind you, the screen doesn't work and the silver bezel is crappy because I just used my original one).
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Im saying nothing for sure, but a stuck power button feels just like normal. I had this issue on two separate samsung phones (they are known for this issue). I thought it was just bs, but i decided to tear it down and check. I used a q-tip and everclear and got plenty in there, wiggled and pressed the button for around five minutes. Re assembled, put the battery in and sure enough, the problem was gone. You cant always feel the button sticking. But hey, if you are offering the remains up, ill take em! I would gladly pay $200 for a replacement screen for it to test on.
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rebel1699 said:
Im saying nothing for sure, but a stuck power button feels just like normal. I had this issue on two separate samsung phones (they are known for this issue). I thought it was just bs, but i decided to tear it down and check. I used a q-tip and everclear and got plenty in there, wiggled and pressed the button for around five minutes. Re assembled, put the battery in and sure enough, the problem was gone. You cant always feel the button sticking. But hey, if you are offering the remains up, ill take em! I would gladly pay $200 for a replacement screen for it to test on.
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Someone beat you to it, Rebel, sorry...just took the first poster or PM that I got. I got the message overnight otherwise I would have posted in here.
I kinda played with the power button when it was tore down, however I didn't use any alcohol on it but that is a good idea.
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Edit: Used some IPA on the power button this morning, soaked it pretty well, pressed the button many many times with varying pressure, with a hard pointy object etc. etc., jiggled side to side, tried every option I could to get it unstuck (if that's what it is) and still doing the exact same thing.
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Mods, I'd like to politely request this thread to be closed...no use for it now. Thanks.
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I dont know it it is a software issue to what. Last night I put my phone in my pocket. I pulled it out and the screen was a frozen white noise image. I dont know it my phone is locked up cause I used the revolution rom or the screen went bad. Any ideas?
I will try to add a phone. I currently am using my old pantech c300 due to lack of back up phones.
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I dont know it it is a software issue to what. Last night I put my phone in my pocket. I pulled it out and the screen was a frozen white noise image. I dont know it my phone is locked up cause I used the revolution rom or the screen went bad. Any ideas?
I will try to add a phone. I currently am using my old pantech c300 due to lack of back up phones.
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Before I offer any advice, what have you done so far to try and remedy this (i.e. battery pull, reformat phone, bang it on a desk...)? I just need to know what you've done before I try and offer you the same solution...
WHat I have tried
I have currently tried battery pull. Restore via power/volume down. I just tried to restart again for giggle. my bt headset did say phone 2 connected.
currently this is what the screen looks like,.
You can just text me with advice if it would be easier. thanks again.
Where you overclockign at all? GPU,CPU or OV~UV gpu failure could do that
No overclocking I know of. Heck I'd stock if I could get it back
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I'm not sure exactly how this applies to HTC phones, but for Samsung phones, the 3-button boot into recovery usually clears these kinds of issues right up!
Once you get into recovery, we clear data, cache and dalvik cache, potentially restoring your phone back to stock condition. Yes, you lose all your stuff, but whatever was causing the malfunction is usually gone at that point. There's a possibility it could just be how your ROM was interacting with your lovely manufactured equipment (YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary, meaning not all phones are built the same so what works for some may not work for others due to the small differences in every manufactured part...)
Now as far as your screen goes, did you drop it or anything like that? Do you think this was physically damaged while in your pocket at all? Does it get pretty hot when in your pockets or was it hot this time when you pulled it out?
Not hot. It wont go into boot loader
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Not hot. It wont go into boot loader
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I followed this. Several time. I changed batteries. changed sd card. and left the battery out for 30. Still not working.
1. Remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, then reinsert the battery.
2. Press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button.
3. Wait for the screen with the three Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button.
4. Press VOLUME DOWN to select FACTORY RESET, and then press the POWER button."
So the phone works.just had the alarm go off. If that's any help.
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So the phone works but the screen still doesn't?
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Its like mid render.. stuck
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Sounds like your gpu bro. Time for a new phone...
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It was found out to be the screen. I had a friend mess with it and he said it just came back on. he made it stock again and it goes out Monday for warranty. I gotta pay for shipping but its alot cheaper than a new phone.
Interesting. Who manufactured the screen? There seem to be a lot of issues with the Sensations display, it would be cool if we could isolate it to one of the two manufacturers.
Might want to change your title to reflect "[SOLVED]" somewhere in it, also.
Sorry I couldn't help more, but hardware isn't my thing
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It was found out to be the screen. I had a friend mess with it and he said it just came back on. he made it stock again and it goes out Monday for warranty. I gotta pay for shipping but its alot cheaper than a new phone.
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When you say he messed with it, what exactly did he do?
I quoted wdhat he said. sorry for the vague wording. I believe he took the back off and suspended it upside down from teh back for an hour then restarted it 15 times and it came back on. after that he went put it all back together. From what he said if you press on certain parts of the screen it goes out. but then others if comes back. Similar to a teeter totter. as he put it. I am guessing a ribbon has come loose or something
This has been happening for a few days now, the phone turns off and endlessly vibrates until I pull the battery, and then it does it again and again but it'll work for a few hours before it happens again... I've tried different roms but its still happening and it's getting very frustrating
does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket
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does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket
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I'm back on gingerbread now cuz ICS was unstable and im not overclocked
Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
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Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
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You mean like physically? Seems fine the phone just starts doing it randomly while it's just sitting on the bed. Right now it's not even turning on at all no matter what I try :/
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Here is one example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
I know there is a good one that goes through the logic of it... but the symptoms seem the same.
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It's in download mode now, I'm going to try downloading stock Rogers ICS and see if the problem persists, if it does I still have 5 months of warranty so hopefully that'll be covered
Ok. You can try jamming on the power button repeatedly too...
Good luck!
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Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?
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Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?
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EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in
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EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in
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no.
try this test, when it goes through the bootloop, keep the power button depressed w/out releasing it and see if it displays the same charactersistics as your bootloops, also count the seconds each situation has, if they are the same then the problem is the sticky power button
As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.
It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
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It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
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well if it never turns on, then its not the sticky power button problem, the sticky power button has a reboot symptom at a consistent interval
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As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.
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Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha
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Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha
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I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.
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i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob
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I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.
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i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob
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Flash counter is at 0, I checked when I managed to get into Download mode before it stopped working altogether. Juggernaut 5 is a rom for the Hercules (T989) and that's not the problem, I've used it before and I only flashed it after the problem started because I thought ICS was the problem, but it stayed even after flashing Juggernaut.
so what did u end up doing, fool around w/the power button or did u bring it in
I I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket i727 (with stock firmware and ROM), i dont have a SD card and not too many apps installed either, maybe 10-15 apps at most. Today while the phone was in my pocket it just went into this continous reboot cycle, it reboots, gets to the AT&T splash screen and then reboots again and then this goes on forever.
I googled the hell out of this issue but cant seem to find a solid solution and hence hoping u guys can help.
I cannot get into recovery mode cause it never gets past the splash screen
I cannot seems to perform a hard reset (power button + volume key) , it just reboots again.
I tried plugging the phone and connecting via USB but it doesnt help either, it reboots before the computer can detect the phone.
Hope u guys can help ? life without android is no fun...
Stuck power button
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Stuck power button
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anyway to fix it or m i close to a paperweight by now. I do not have warranty on this phone
I explored the stuck power buton option and lightly banged the phoen around in hopes that it would let loose but no luck.
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This. Google "stuck power button Skyrocket" for info on a fix.
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needle arounf the edges of the button works majority of the time if not then have fun with the google search
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This. Google "stuck power button Skyrocket" for info on a fix.
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Try a different battery
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Try a different battery
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A new battery will do nothing to fix a stuck power button.
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needle arounf the edges of the button works majority of the time if not then have fun with the google search
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I had this same issue with my LG Phoenix, I tried the needle around the power button, and that popped it back to normal. Apparently I held the button down to a side and it got stuck even though the actual button part was in it's "normal," position.
However it did reboot several more times after I got it unstuck. I did remove the back & battery, & unplugged it. Let it sit for a few minutes, after that I put the USB cable back in, then pressed the power button, put the battery back in and pressed the button again, and it went through the normal reboot process.
Just wanted to give you guys an update that i started cleaning the part around the edges as some folks suggested and that failed. then tried smacking around and blowing air into and that failed. Then took the entire phone apart and cleaned it several times using different techniques and sad to say that it all failed and i m SOL.
Bummer but it is what it is and i was quiet happy with that phone.
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Just wanted to give you guys an update that i started cleaning the part around the edges as some folks suggested and that failed. then tried smacking around and blowing air into and that failed. Then took the entire phone apart and cleaned it several times using different techniques and sad to say that it all failed and i m SOL.
Bummer but it is what it is and i was quiet happy with that phone.
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Did you offer up Bacon to the phone as a snackrifice?
I'm sorry that none of these options worked out for you.
Its very easy to open I changed a motherboard for a hard bricked i727 very easy to change power button or unstuck it
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Its very easy to open I changed a motherboard for a hard bricked i727 very easy to change power button or unstuck it
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Where does one find a power button for the skyrocket (the one attached to the motherboard)? The closest thing I could find was this:
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-power-button-repair/
It is a repair service though and I live in Canada, I would prefer if I could just order that part. I have been to few repair shops that cant do anything because this power button is hard to find. I opened up the motherboard and the power button clicks fine, so I think it probably has to be replaced.
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I had the same issue, came here and read all the things about the stuck power button and needing to replace whatever is beneath it. My friend works in aerospace and had told me about one of the things they need to worry about is temperature causing wire shrinkage due to temperature. For whatever reason, I decided to use that logic and throw my phone in the freezer wrapped in a dry rag. 30min later and the phone finally worked after 8 hours of the boot loop/no boot. That was around November and I haven't had an issue with it since (until today, but it is a different issue).
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I had the same issue, came here and read all the things about the stuck power button and needing to replace whatever is beneath it. My friend works in aerospace and had told me about one of the things they need to worry about is temperature causing wire shrinkage due to temperature. For whatever reason, I decided to use that logic and throw my phone in the freezer wrapped in a dry rag. 30min later and the phone finally worked after 8 hours of the boot loop/no boot. That was around November and I haven't had an issue with it since (until today, but it is a different issue).
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can any one else confirm this? my phone keeps shutting off. when the screen is black, itll vibrate every second. im assuming its another stuck power button.
Boot loop!
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can any one else confirm this? my phone keeps shutting off. when the screen is black, itll vibrate every second. im assuming its another stuck power button.
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I have just fixed mine!!!!
There is a little battery on the circuit board when you take apart the phone. It looks like a small watch battery. Top side is and bottom side are opposite polarities.
I had the exact same symptom. Sometimes just pressing the power button momentarily would bring up the power down menu, then I knew to press it a bunch of times because it was stick. If I didn't eventually it would turn off and vibrate constantly. It kept getting worse.
I measured with an ohm meter and the button itself seems fine so I figured maybe the digital logic relating to the button itself is faulty. So I shorted the little battery on the board (do this only for a brief period, no more than 1s) and put it back together.
Its behaving perfectly normally. I was also getting weird artifacts during video playback before, kind of like what failing solder would do on a bga gpu. It fixed that too.
So I think its similar to that problem some laptops have, where it wont turn on until you remove the battery, hold the power button down a couple times, and then plug it in. It seems a complete circuit discharge fixed this problem at least for me.
If people are interested I can try to find a picture
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In that picture its the silver shiny metal circle. To short it you connect the bottom soldered part to the metal plate on top of the battery. This comlpetely drains all circuits.
So I think a lot of these problems are caused by a phantom charge. In any sense, Im very very happy
Also this could explain why the fridge method worked. Cooling the battery can significantly drop its charge, however I would advise against the cooling method if possible.
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Where does one find a power button for the skyrocket (the one attached to the motherboard)? The closest thing I could find was this:
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-power-button-repair/
It is a repair service though and I live in Canada, I would prefer if I could just order that part. I have been to few repair shops that cant do anything because this power button is hard to find. I opened up the motherboard and the power button clicks fine, so I think it probably has to be replaced.
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You'd need to find a friend or local electronics repair shop, but I ordered some here:
http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-sgh-i727-power-button.html.
The buttons are $0.99 USD if you buy 2 or more ($1.05 CAD), but 5-7 day business shipping is like $16.99. Still cheaper than a replacement phone, and it's an easy fix for an electronics person or electronics/tv/computer repair shop... At the rate these power buttons have had reported failures, and for the price, I'd get a couple of them in case the replacement fails in the future...
If my wife keeps squeezing the power button on her phone when some crappy app she has wigs out, I'll be needing my second button sooner rather than later...
why when one person says it something everyone band wagons on that idea. i actually had the same issue my skyrocket couldn't go pass the "samsung" screen. all i did was flash a new rom or i just restored an old backup
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why when one person says it something everyone band wagons on that idea. i actually had the same issue my skyrocket couldn't go pass the "samsung" screen. all i did was flash a new rom or i just restored an old backup
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Then it was user error or a bad flash. And that's software, not hardware.
Skyrocket power buttons are known to fail. I believe Samsung has even acknowledged this.
When your phone randomly goes into a 1-second vibration cycle, sometimes showing the reboot menu beforehand without pressing the button, more than likely it's the power button that has either failed or is sticking.
With my wife's phone, the button was not sticking, and usually lightly tapping the phone at the right angle on your lap or the counter would break the vibration cycle and let it boot up, until the next random power button press and vib cycle would happen.
Button replaced, same exact ROM, and problem gone. :thumbup:
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I I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket i727 (with stock firmware and ROM), i dont have a SD card and not too many apps installed either, maybe 10-15 apps at most. Today while the phone was in my pocket it just went into this continous reboot cycle, it reboots, gets to the AT&T splash screen and then reboots again and then this goes on forever.
I googled the hell out of this issue but cant seem to find a solid solution and hence hoping u guys can help.
I cannot get into recovery mode cause it never gets past the splash screen
I cannot seems to perform a hard reset (power button + volume key) , it just reboots again.
I tried plugging the phone and connecting via USB but it doesnt help either, it reboots before the computer can detect the phone.
Hope u guys can help ? life without android is no fun...
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I have a repair shop and i fix these issues with no problem. the only issue im located in Puerto Rico. when the power button gets stuck is because of heavy use, a fall or something that makes a lot of pressure to it and the copper contacts inside the button stay making contact. this is know to happen to i727-i717-i997-i897 and some other galaxy s1 s2 models.
i attached the picture of the power button.
I have had my Galaxy SII Skyrocket since January 4th of 2012. About two weeks after I bought it I got drunk at a party and dropped in into the road. Didn't crack the screen or anything. Just had some scratches on the outside bezel.
Now here come the questions, I had my skyrocket rooted and installed many different roms over the previous months. I would say since June I have been updating and installing different Roms on my device. Well, About 4 days ago while I had CvD Nibbles installed on my phone with the CPU overlocked to 1.723 I think? with incredicontrol, My phone just restarts. I didn't think anything about it at first.
So, I take the battery out and restart like normal, everything seems to be fine, but I reduce the CPU speed just to be sure. receive a couple text messages then BAM! phone restarts again. Except this time when I tried to take the battery out and place it back in, the phone automatically booted up (without pressing the power button at all). I see the Samsung logo and then it just restarts to a black screen and is stuck in a vibrating loop about every 2-3 seconds.
Also, I have noticed that when I try to connect a USB cable and put the phone in download mode that the download mode screen will pop up, but as soon as I click volume up to continue, a blue screen flashed quickly and the phone restarts.
Additionally, will the scratches on the bezel affect the warranty if I send it in to Samsung?
What could this problem be? I even tried a brand new battery at best buy, didn't help. I was thinking it is a hardware issue inside the phone?
any advice will help, thanks
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I have had my Galaxy SII Skyrocket since January 4th of 2012. About two weeks after I bought it I got drunk at a party and dropped in into the road. Didn't crack the screen or anything. Just had some scratches on the outside bezel.
Now here come the questions, I had my skyrocket rooted and installed many different roms over the previous months. I would say since june I have been updating and installing different Roms on my device. Well, About 4 days ago while I had CvD Nibbles installed on my phone with the CPU overlocked to 1.723 I think? with incredicontrol, My phone just restarts. I don't think anything about it at first.
So, I take the battery out and restart like normal, everything seems to be fine, but I reduce the CPU speed just to be sure. recieve a couple text messages then BAM! phone restarts again. Except this time when I tried to take the battery out and place it back in the phone automatically booted up (without pressing the power button at all). I see the Samsung logo and then it just restarts to a black screen and is stuck in a vibrating loop about every 2-3 seconds.
Also, I have noticed that when I try to connect a USB cable and put the phone in download mode that the download mode screen will pop up, but as soon as i click volume up to continue a blue screen flashed quickly and the phone restarts.
What could this problem be? I even tried a brand new battery at best buy, didn't help. I was thinking it is a hardware issue inside the phone?
any advice will help, thanks
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Stuck power button.
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Probably a stuck power button. It's a common problem on this phone. I'd Odin back to stock when you can and take it back to where you bought it. You only have a few days before your warranty is up.
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I took the phone apart and cleaned the dust out.
Didn't help
I also tried to boot the phone up without the outer shell on it. Also did the same thing, I almost ruled out stuck power button. Because if I take the outer shell off then the power button isn't even touching the white trigger underneath the case. You know what I am saying?
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I took the phone apart and cleaned the dust out.
Didn't help
I also tried to boot the phone up without the outer shell on it. Also did the same thing, I almost ruled out stuck power button. Because if I take the outer shell off then the power button isn't even touching the white trigger underneath the case. You know what I am saying?
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No, it's a stuck power button.
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Okay, im gunna take my phone apart again and post a picture. I cleaned it pretty thoroughly, whats the best way to unsticking it?
Sometimes you can just keep pushing the power button over and over until it fixes itself
theres a few links about this in the 1stop sticky in the "info " section in the sticky
its an internal problem we/i call "the sticky power button".
theres a link on taking it apart to clean the button internally, sometimes works, sometimes not, if not get the warranty repair
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Okay, im gunna take my phone apart again and post a picture. I cleaned it pretty thoroughly, whats the best way to unsticking it?
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I had the same symptoms. Took it apart. Played with the button several minutes to no avail. Try blowing preferably some canned air right into where the white button is. Button doesn't appear to be stuck. There is more than likely some dust or lint behind the white button.
!0 minutes start to finish to fix my "stuck power button"
Good luck.
a good way to check if it is still stuck would be to blow air into the white button, then place the battery back in the device, If it powers on immediately without pressing any buttons then its still stuck right?
Wesley32 said:
a good way to check if it is still stuck would be to blow air into the white button, then place the battery back in the device, If it powers on immediately without pressing any buttons then its still stuck right?
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....And the obvious vibrating
I would say yes.
Alright, I am about to go on lunch break at work and I will grab my phone and pick up some air duster. Any other suggestions for cleaning out the button? like chemicals to use to remove the dust?
Wesley32 said:
Alright, I am about to go on lunch break at work and I will grab my phone and pick up some air duster. Any other suggestions for cleaning out the button? like chemicals to use to remove the dust?
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I wouldn't recommend using any chemicals. some duster should be fine.
I'm sure you took a look at the stickies vincom mentioned. There are a lot of more "denial and error" stories over there.
again... good luck!
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I wouldn't recommend using any chemicals. some duster should be fine.
I'm sure you took a look at the stickies vincom mentioned. There are a lot of more "denial and error" stories over there.
again... good luck!
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Yeah it's hilarious. So many people saying...
Person in denial:
"I know it's not the power button, it can't be. I already looked at it 3 times and its not stuck"
Me
It's internally stuck, dude.
Person in denial:
"I already told you it's not stuck"
Me:
It's definitely stuck, clean it.
Person in denial:
"You were right, I cleaned it and it works now!"
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I got so lucky! i sprayed the **** out of that button, and cleaned the little outer button. It actually started up. Thanks for all of the help.
Ill be back in the Rom testing game now!
Wesley32 said:
I got so lucky! i sprayed the **** out of that button, and cleaned the little outer button. It actually started up. Thanks for all of the help.
Ill be back in the Rom testing game now!
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Good work dude!
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Been a watcher on the forums for awhile, now I actually had to sign up and get some help, LOL.
Anyway, dropped my s2 skyrocket, noticed that it kept trying to reboot every now and then when I used it the same day. The next day, I plugged it in in the evening, and shut off, rebooted, but the screen would go black and the phone would vibrate with 2 seconds in between vibrations. It gets to the "Samsung" word, then the screen goes black in the style of an old tube TV (with the thin white line at the end). Then the vibrations start. So far a useless phone. Took it apart and checked connections carefully (I'm used to working with processor boards quite a bit).
What do you guys suggest? Damaged memory? Should I attempt to reflash? Stuck power button (seemed ok, though)? Bad screen?
Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up. Yeah I just figured out that the i727 isn't in "Top Devices" or "Legacy," so you have to go to all forums. Ugg. Already moved. Thanks to whoever notified mod.
Anyway, yeah, any help would be AWESOME. What physical damage would prevent booting past the "Samsung" screen and default to a black screen that intermittently vibrates?
I'll be honest, if ur asking that question probably something u don't have the current skill set to fix. Try to Odin back stock, but if it started post-drop you may be SOL and in need of a new phone.
Got it into download mode after multiple failed attempts. Each time I would get it into download mode, the screen would shut off after about 5 seconds of being on. I tried several combinations of plugging it in first, then installing the battery, or holding down the button while I plugged it in with no battery, etc. I had just given up after getting it into download mode briefly for the 20th time, when I gave it one more go while rocking the on and off button. Technically that is recovery mode, but I let off right before plugging the phone in and it hit download mode and stuck.
So what I am thinking is the power button got jammed internally. I have heard of it happening on other forums. Even though it looks good and clicks upon external examination, the pressure circuit on the inside might be in contact. Anyway, just one theory.
For future though, I did discover that you don't HAVE to have the USB unplugged prior to getting into download mode. On the contrary, a power source must be present in order to register that the keys are pressed PRIOR to initiating USB input. Thus, you can actually remove the battery, plug in the USB (power source), then hold the volume keys while replacing the battery. Goes into download mode that way, too.
Will keep you guys updated. Might need a bit more help if the phone starts acting up again.
At this point, if the Download mode still holds ok, should I consider CyanogenMod, or is it easier to get back a good ROM from stock?
icenight:
Thanks for the reply. I don't understand much about smart phones or how they work, but trust me when I say I have had AMPLE experience with electronics, circuit boards, hardware, etc., particularly in the computer/laptop world. I code quite a bit of websites, and understand almost all things networking and OS. Just never really got into it with the phones.
Getting super excited to see the sheer amount of modding you can do though. Would love to break into a hardware modding world if it ever comes available. That's where it's at with electronics for me.
Well glad u got it sorted, lucky guy you are lol.
As for boards and the like, if it didn't work I would've suggested replacing the motherboard and/or power daughter board. But for a skyrocket may not be worth the money.
Since you're a hardware guy, maybe mess around with the phone and JTAG? Finding a way to unbrick without it would be very helpful
Since the problems started after a physical damage (fall) , I wonder how would Odin or wipe and flash might work !
Definitely a hardware damage...
Yeah, it kinda puzzled me, too. I believe the power button might have been internally stuck, but that's just one idea. Could have been a loose connection, too.
Can you lose some solid state memory with firmware on it, but the SS memory still be OK to right another copy on?
More than likely it was your power button
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