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I would like to know if anyone has tried any type of gaming with your windows 7 machine via remote desktop on home network?
I was thinking about something like bauldurs gate, Diablo, or heck....even WoW possibly.
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I don't think you'll get too good of a result with that; especially over Wi-Fi. Networks speeds just aren't fast enough to transfer >30 fps (which you need for a smooth gaming experience ). They might just be playable if you turn the resolution way down but then you're going to lose a heck of a lot of quality.
Not what you might consider gaming, but I've played around with Flight Sim X across the network using Splashtop, and it was pretty flyable. (Well, apart from the fact I don't have a bluetooth joystick, and don't know that Splashtop would support it even if I did.)
Hey so I just seen on this market pretty bad compatibility for a lot of devices it seems, the data download is choppy and the audio is reportedly out of sync for SOME devices other devices just find the game to laggy.
Having tried it myself i find it very choppy Xperia Play controls work fine for me, although other users are reporting problems, this could be down to bad downloads/ custom roms.
Not to mention it's like over a year late, guess its in preparation for episode II
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no one waste there money on this its so slow!
You are better off buying sonic CD, its much longer and its much more fun. Sonic 4 just plain sucks.
It's working smoothly for me with xperia play controls... Stock rom with root and some system apps uninstalled, and supercharged and i have chainfire installed....
Edit-Played through first level with only one lag spike which didn't really affect me since it was so small... Touchpaxz do not work but the d-pad does and I can't see why you would want the Touchpaxz to work so I'd say buy the game... No idea what's wrong with your version... Maybe try deleting and re downloading the sd data....
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It's working smoothly for me with xperia play controls... Stock rom with root and some system apps uninstalled, and supercharged and i have chainfire installed....
Edit-Played through first level with only one lag spike which didn't really affect me since it was so small... Touchpaxz do not work but the d-pad does and I can't see why you would want the Touchpaxz to work so I'd say buy the game... No idea what's wrong with your version... Maybe try deleting and re downloading the sd data....
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Working fine for me too, Sonic CD runs better but I guess if I change my v6 settings it will run a little better.
PS. I played through first level with next to no lag, a slight bit of slow down in places but bearly noticeable.
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Blocked from the market for me. It's saying incompatible with my device.
EDIT: Went ahead and *forced* it anyway... and now I'm wondering why in the hell they blocked Xperia PLAY users from seeing this. It's working perfectly with Xperia PLAY's physical gamepad and I can't quite complain about the performance either.
GAMEPLAY VIDEO:
While Sonic CD was a much bigger deal, this is kind of a big deal for me too... you guys don't know how much I bugged Sega about putting this on PSP (while most games just suck on touch-screens, platformers got the shorter end of the stick by far) and this kinda makes up for it.
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While Sonic CD was a much bigger deal, this is kind of a big deal for me too... you guys don't know how much I bugged Sega about putting this on PSP (while most games just suck on touch-screens, platformers got the shorter end of the stick by far) and this kinda makes up for it.
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Got enough games on your phone?
I downloaded it fine through the market, may just be blocking specific models
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gonna download and have a look myself, got it on my PS3 and love sonic games!! lets see what its like on my mobile
Can confirm that it works fine on the Play controls.
I just bought Sonic 4 on my old Droid x and then tried the apk on my Xperia PLAY and I can tell you right now that the controls most certanly work. The menus are all touch but the game itsef supports the controls, not the touchpads but the directional pad works great.
I've been playing it a bit now, and must admit I did find a few bits of lag going on :-( but all the controls work find, and tilting on certain bits is loads of fun!!
I'm not overclocking so maybe if I pop SetCPU up to 1.4 or 1.6 it may stop the lag.
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it works brilliantly for me, although i am at 1.4ghz, theres no slowdown. Controls work perfectly
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Got enough games on your phone?
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NOPE.
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NOPE.
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Same here
Being a long-time console/pc gamer, $60 for a game is normal. As a result, I buy these $5 and less apps like candy
Triangle is supersonic, so it seems all ingame buttons were made for the play. and its not just a carryover from dpad+enter button config.
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Triangle is supersonic, so it seems all ingame buttons were made for the play. and its not just a carryover from dpad+enter button config.
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Give me your save game i cba getting the chaos emeralds again just for this version lol.
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Triangle is supersonic, so it seems all ingame buttons were made for the play. and its not just a carryover from dpad+enter button config.
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That is interesting... that means Sega was actively working on making this compatible with the Xperia PLAY this whole time.
...that brings me back to why the hell they'd make this any less than fully available day 1. It's not like they couldn't expect us to figure them out.
I recently found OnLive, a cloud based gaming app that is on multiple platforms, including android. At the moment, they have titles such as Assasins Creed II and Brotherhood, SplinterCell Conviction, Homefront, and many others. Their volume isnt as big as Valve's Steam, but it has been recognized by the Steam community.
Some basic pros:
-No need to download your games, their on the cloud.
-Their game selection is expanding.
-You can play a demo before you buy.
-No fee for having an account, but there is one for a membership.
-Analogs are compatible on the PLAY.
Some cons:
-You cant play offline.
-You have too keep up with your bills to play.
-No mods in games.
-Less variety of games compared to steam (which doesnt support android).
-Games are about retail price moat of the time.
- A lot of data is used streaming your game.
when i last used used it, it was very slow and lagging all the time on my wifi broadband (30Mb)
I've no problems with it. I've only 2,5 meg broadband. Sometimes it's pixelised a little but work like a charm.
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What? OnLive is out for like 6 months, XDA members went over it. Yes, it's as good as it was before.
It never connects on my wifi broadband (10mb)
It work's great for me. I only do the demos because the majority of the games I own on Xbox and I can't afford to pay twice for a game. I use it for a cool factor to show console games on a phone that no one has heard of at the parties I throw.
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It work's great for me. I only do the demos because the majority of the games I own on Xbox and I can't afford to pay twice for a game. I use it for a cool factor to show console games on a phone that no one has heard of at the parties I throw.
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I love using onlive, one because its all cloud gaming...so I can play most of my games on my pc and then if I'm going somewhere and it has wifi (I rarely use my data *only 2 gb.a month*) then I can continue where I left off....or if I'm planning iny from.my pc to my laptop.
The only thing I dislike about the Play and onlive is the lack of L3 and R3 physical buttons OR touch screen buttons, and for most of my games, like Dues ex and AvP, it gets hard to play....but the play is Awesome for.Assassins creed games, (I've got 2 and brotherhood) and orcs must die....I think the only mistake I've made is buying dawn of war 2 when i first found onlive 3 months ago...
But the advantage is that you can always find other players for multiplayer games ( Homefront ftw, even though I don't have it, I'm.waiting for somekind of sale where it will be at or below $10....which is when I have bought my games lol)
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It drove me to buy the OnLive console(which kicks ass), but on Xperia Play I'd always thought it suffered from input lag.
Recently upgraded our router to something newer/more oriented towards gaming and now the input lag is drastically decreased; it's actually quite practical now! What I also like is that I don't always have to be confined to WiFi. In places where I have a good HSPA+ connection, I can play without being bound to a router! It's no replacement for having games that can be played without an active internet connection, but being able to play full-blown Assassin's Creed games and the REAL Street Fighter IV:AE make this quite a winner for me.
My one persisting qualm is the L2/L3/R2/R3. There is absolutely no L3/R3 whatsoever, and L2/R2 takes over the volume buttons. What they really need to do is just have L2/L3/R2/R3 as virtual touch buttons near the bottom of the screen.
If you get it, check out a lesser-known game called A.R.E.S.: Extinction Agenda. Amazing game!
Damned .on my country,to hard connected to onlive . . .really damn
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It drove me to buy the OnLive console(which kicks ass), but on Xperia Play I'd always thought it suffered from input lag.
Recently upgraded our router to something newer/more oriented towards gaming and now the input lag is drastically decreased; it's actually quite practical now! What I also like is that I don't always have to be confined to WiFi. In places where I have a good HSPA+ connection, I can play without being bound to a router! It's no replacement for having games that can be played without an active internet connection, but being able to play full-blown Assassin's Creed games and the REAL Street Fighter IV:AE make this quite a winner for me.
My one persisting qualm is the L2/L3/R2/R3. There is absolutely no L3/R3 whatsoever, and L2/R2 takes over the volume buttons. What they really need to do is just have L2/L3/R2/R3 as virtual touch buttons near the bottom of the screen.
If you get it, check out a lesser-known game called A.R.E.S.: Extinction Agenda. Amazing game!
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Yeah, I agree with you on the R and L 3 buttons. I wish for some games though that we had the ability to flip the l2 l, r2, and the l1and r1 buttons/triggers around.....I sent onlive an email about that at the end of march and they said they would look into it.
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It works really great for me. But i'm not able to buy anything. It says that it's not available in my country, but demos works really well.
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Works great for me.
BUT:
- A lot of games are too dark.
- A lot of games are unsuitable for the Play's buttons. ie. they need more.
- A lot of games don't suit a small screen. For example, the ball in Virtua Tennis is tiny & moves too fast for small, handheld gaming.
The controls suck basically, mainly because of the lack of l2, r2, l3, r3. The touchpads are also quite crap for these games :/
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The controls suck basically, mainly because of the lack of l2, r2, l3, r3. The touchpads are also quite crap for these games :/
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Only thing the app lacks on the play is l3 and r3...the l2 and r2 are.mapped to the volume up and down respectively...and the touchpads are meant ad analog sticks heh..imo, the assassins creed titles are.the best suited for the play.
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Only thing the app lacks on the play is l3 and r3...the l2 and r2 are.mapped to the volume up and down respectively...and the touchpads are meant ad analog sticks heh..imo, the assassins creed titles are.the best suited for the play.
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from the preview I saw, it definitely beats gamelofts 2.5d ds-ish port. Yes, I bought a console hit for my former DS, and regretted it again after getting CoD4, so horrible.
So the general theme is thatyou have to have fairly good Wi-Fi to enjoy w/o lag. Also, is it true that OnLive's servers go down from time to time, I've heard things like this on other forums and want to confirm whether or not it is common. I want to try i .t, but I want to know that it is convenient before I attach my identity to anything else and forget.
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So the general theme is thatyou have to have fairly good Wi-Fi to enjoy w/o lag. Also, is it true that OnLive's servers go down from time to time, I've heard things like this on other forums and want to confirm whether or not it is common. I want to try i .t, but I want to know that it is convenient before I attach my identity to anything else and forget.
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I've only ever disconnected from onlive when my internet has effed up....you have to have a marginally good wifi to have it look good, but onlive normally tells you first if you have connection issues. And you can.use aCC or DC to buy a game and then delete the card off your account, so nothing is permanent.
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OnLive : input lag
Persistent Input Lag
*my internet speed is 105mpbs/10mpbs
*have tried 3 wireless N routers (no channels overlapping)
-playing Street Fighter is grueling
-playing Batman is ok.
=I really wish it worked without the lag.
{EDIT} as a top edit I'd like to remind people that your connection no matter how fast will still create input lag in your games. That's a server issue cause by how the data / input is sent and received. If you want more info on it, check into NVIDIA and GAI KAI. Gai Kai has better visuals but the frame rate for some reason takes a dive...
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I've used the system since August, and I'm a happy customer!
At first the visuals were very muddy looking (arkham city looked really bad) but after the following update the devs must have changed something because the colors are more vibrant.
The control lag is passable, even when playing some pretty intense games. I have split second on there (and the play pack) and I've gotten numerous 1st place trophies once I got used to the latency. It's not bad at all it's just not perfect because it's not 1:1 (it's really close though).
When I got it in august of last year I thought to myself "boy I wish this had xperia play support" and what to my surprise not a week later I didn't have to use the game keyboard lol
Here's my pros and cons in a TLR
PRO's
-you're playing PC-quality games on your phone
-full Xperia Play optimized (even the volume buttons count as the shoulder buttons though it is a little awkward)
-hundreds of games to choose from and recent ones
-the price point of some games is astounding. I got a few games for only $2 you just need to look at sales frequently.
-graphics have improved dramatically since I've used the service
-the lag in controls is passable (more in CON's)
-you can view other people playing the game and there's a FREE 30 min trial with almost every game
-did I mention it's PC games on your phone?
CON's
-you can't play any 2k games on the phone right now (no bioshock, borderlands)
-the lag in FPS's is tough. Even games like splinter cell where you have to aim your gun in a tight spot it's tricky. Possible but it's a pain when it's not 1:1. I couldn't even play FEAR 2 or 3 it was death up the butt
-battery drain LOL
right there's really not many bad things about it. However the release date for the games varies though Batman: AC came out pretty soon after it's actual release.
Also Wifi and LTE are preferred and I didn't put it as a con because for me I can play on 3G as well. It's fast enough in my area, I'd use speed test to see if it is fast in your area. If you're speed test can consistently hold around 150+ KBps then you're golden.
Borderlands is on onlive lol...
The assassin's creed games are perfect for the play. Only con I have is lack of l3 and r3 buttons, even on the screen would be fine.
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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if only we all had google fiber.
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if only we all had google fiber.
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Google fiber is seriously making me want to move to Provo.
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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TESTED. SPLASHTOP 2 does support controller, (a few tweaks) and as long as I play games in "Windowed" for games that are not Splashtop stream supported. I can play over internet connection. I HAVE TESTED THIS with Crysis 2 in windowed mode at changing settings to 720. THIS IS 3rd party system not optimized like the Shield streaming and Nvidia Grid is. It works better if you are on the same provider, and have at the capability of a 4meg upload on both sides. best if you have like a 25/4. I have tried it over 4G LTE, it works but not great. So it is possible, but because you are pinging though remote server before you get to your PC, ping is higher than 200ms, most of the time closer to 250ms. that is tested on Charter Communications 30/4 with ping test at 20ms or lower. I am a senior tech with them and understanding the WWW infrastructure, server based streaming is still going to be far more viable. but as a test experiment, remote desktop streaming through splashtop in windowed mode does work... a bit laggy, but possible.
Based on the relationship Nvidia is building with Steam, and their Grid technology, it would not surprise me if we see very soon Steam offering a streaming over the internet service.
You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
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You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
Kris
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Someone has already done it in another thread... There's a guide on setting up VPN now for SHIELD.
Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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No it is on XDA Under Nvidia Shield > Shield General > [GUIDE] How to setup VPN for game streaming
here is a link
I plan on using openvpn when i get around to it.
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/...connect-your-shield-to-vpn-for-remote-gaming/
One of the main reason I bought the shield tablet is to use Nvidia Grid. But I just realized there's already OnLive which has a lot more titles I can play. I can't discern the difference in quality and latency between the 2 either. Is there any reason I should still play on the Grid besides the fact that it's currently free? Which do you guys prefer?
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I played Grid some and it was nice, haven't heard of Onlive before so now I will go check out what that is.
Grid is so much better in quality play ...way too much lag on onlive for me
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Grid is so much better in quality play ...way too much lag on onlive for me
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+1 i tried both, and Grid is much better in all ways
Thanks guys. I'm hoping when grid goes out of beta it won't cost too much.
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Finally get to use my tablet shield controller and been playing onlive instead of grid. Been able to make better comparison today.
Interestingly onlive is also powered by nvidia and it seems more forgiving when my Internet speed is slow while the Grid doesn't wanna connect and when it does there's a lot of buffering and pausing and makes the games unplayable. Maybe server issue? Onlive doesn't buffer as much and is playable. Onlive seems to have come a long way. And as usual I can't tell the difference with the quality of graphics. Both are awesome IMO when I have great connection. My vote goes to onlive.
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Finally get to use my tablet shield controller and been playing onlive instead of grid. Been able to make better comparison today.
Interestingly onlive is also powered by nvidia and it seems more forgiving when my Internet speed is slow while the Grid doesn't wanna connect and when it does there's a lot of buffering and pausing and makes the games unplayable. Maybe server issue? Onlive doesn't buffer as much and is playable. Onlive seems to have come a long way. And as usual I can't tell the difference with the quality of graphics. Both are awesome IMO when I have great connection. My vote goes to onlive.
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Hey aznmode,
What country are you in? Thinking about getting a Shield Tablet and using OnLive to stream games as I'm in the UK and Grid servers are only in West Coast USA currently. I have an OnLive account and it works pretty well over here
Thanks
Steve
I'm in the US. San Jose, California in fact. So I'm very close to the Grid servers.
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I just posted about my issue with GRID here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/grid-slow-to-optimize-router-t2875447
In essence, I got great network connection, close to GRID server and no issue with router. GRID network testing feature show I got "Excellent Network", with >8 Mbps speed, 0% frame loss and 3 ms jitter. GRID is 3fps... unplayable. Onlive is FAST...30fps.
I just got my Shield today, so I don't know if there is issue with the GRID server, but it's unplayable for me. See details in the link above.
I can play Onlive from Spain, that's a good reason to say it is better and more powerful than Grid, nowadays.