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i dont mind plastic as long as its good quality, also is it worth the price? i want one but its expensive..
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i dont mind plastic as long as its good quality, also is it worth the price? i want one but its expensive..
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I have had mine for around a month and a half. It is honestly used and abused for around 10-17 hours a day, six to 7 days a week. Mostly by me personally. It has developed a few small creeks in the backing at the surround for the s pen and at the top corners around the camera. These creeks are not bad. There is no perceptible wearing on the buttons.
I did drop this tablet from about 4 1/2 feet onto the glass screen on a ceramic tile floor, it landed almost flush with the screen. Despite the first ever in my life dropping of a tablet or laptop the screen did not take any perceptible damage and I did examine it thourally. After 4 or 5 minutes of profanity directed at my self for clumsiness I began to breathe again. It left no scratches in any light at any angle. I feel that this would be a very different case should an impact be delivered on a corner.
The silver band surrounding the front bezal is in very good condition showing no wear as yet though I feel that this is a weakness and will show wear before any other part. The s pen is holding up perfectly so far. Overall I would say the build quality of this unit is good with normal creeks when dealing with plastic parts though I do believe samsung should go metal with a plastic window for gps at this price point. The polish finish of this unit shows the slightest fingerprint and I feel samsung should use a matt finish however im sure some disagree with me.
im eyeballing a refurb from here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131468
I think there well worth it, don't know how much they cost in the state's but couldn't be as much as in Australia and I'm happy with the Australian price
Although I think we pay too much generally for any tech over here. I don't mind p lastic for the body it probably makes it a little more shock absorbent, the screens good, the s-pen comes in handy for things like sketching if your into that and note taking. I also really like the front facing speakers and. Haven't come across any problems yet playing any of the Graphics heavy games either.
Looks like a good deal for a 32gb unit to me. I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it. I certainly like mine.
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well i dont know if i want it from there says at bottom its a B grade item
I find the build quality to be adequate. I had a Transformer tf300t prior, & it felt superior in hand. Very solid and no creaking. The Note feels lighter in hand. It does creak a bit, but once I put it in a leather folio case, it does not.
The fact that the speakers are on the front, the color contrast of the screen, & the s-pen more than make up for any build faults in my opinion.
Build quality is good. I'm satisfied
I really appreciate the lightness and thinness of the unit.
One thing I always do with all my tablets is buy TPU covers.
As I use my Note 10.1 constantly throughout the day I'm not buying a cover that goes across both the back and screen - that would be too inconvenient. I have thought of buying a Zero-shock / memory foam sleeve but I don't get out enough to justify its purchase.
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im eyeballing a refurb from here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131468
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Very good price for a 32gb refurb version
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Very good price for a 32gb refurb version
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ya but read description down towards bottom says "b" grade i dont know if thats just because its a refurb or means has some kind of flaw or something
Personally I'm not too happy with the build quality. I feel the back tends to Creek from time to time. I don't like the fact that it use a proprietary cable and not a standard Mico usb. all that saidi would definitely buy it again.
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Im satisfied aswell. No gripes here, although im a little annoyed that the gray coating around the headphones and chargering ports are starting to scratch and chip away
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Im satisfied aswell. No gripes here, although im a little annoyed that the gray coating around the headphones and chargering ports are starting to scratch and chip away
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emails to newegg they gave me samsungs number they arent sure
Is it just me or does it this annoy you to? when people are comparing phones and lets say for example the galaxy s4 to something like the HTC one. They would say the galaxy s4 is made out of plastic and the HTC one medal. They say the HTC ones build i hands down better. Now why does that matter if 4 out of 5 people with each phone will put a otter box case or something else on it.
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It could potentially impact the durability of the phone I suppose, but I agree, it's largely irrelevant. People will just take any reason they can find to try to prove that their phone of choice is the 'best'.
I got a Lumia 521 for $79 (total cost) which is about the worst in build quality. Got the best case I could find for it and it helped tremendously. So this can work for you also. Hide low build quality with a decent case!
Really, the only concern I have with build quality is how sturdy the phone is. I'm a clumsy guy and I'm prone to drop my phone a bit. I want to know then when I drop the phone, it will stay in one piece. Maybe even be resistant to scratches/dents. The last think I want is for the thing to shatter like brittle glass.
Other than that, a case will hide any shortcomings.
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i personally prefer a plastic device with removable barttery and sd card slot than a full metal body with these limitations. it would be best though if samsung replaced the plastic on the next S flagship with aluminum(something like htc sensation). however this would mean to return to square one and redesign everything, therefore making it more expensive. i believe that they don't want to risk their good sales and do something that may leave a scar on their reputation. in addition, i don't know of any samsumng device made of metal, so it would be a huge change for them.
we, as users, would have to take into account some other disadvantages of a metal body. i put an sgs3 in a metal locker and it lost almost all the signal, it even missed a few calls, it caused huge battery drain (when in low signal area devices lose batteruy faster) so the antennas will have to be placed accordingly. plus, scratches and marks are more visible on metal, you can't really put a plastic case on a metal device(in most cases it is really inestethic, imho. but it depends on the case), hard cases can affect connectivity and if dust or sand is caught between the phone and the case it will produce nasty marks on the phone.
so, practically, plastic devices are better. it's just the common opinion that they look and feel cheap. i look forward to reading further replies on this matter.
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The reason I love my s4 is the removable battery. if I know I'm going to need it I use my 7500 mAh battery if not I use my stock battery. I hate when people say its made of plastic. So then I show them my extended battery and then they become amazed LOL
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bcs the sucks ball n too judgemental mayb haha kidding its just their personal preferences n still some tend to use phones/tabs witht tab n they've enjoyed/used to using/holding devices with premium quality thats y they complain it feels like sth missing
case quality
I'm always amazed at how expensive some cases are - £30 for a case is really unreasonable imo. My I9000 was protected really well in a £3 case I bought off eBay!
I think it does not matter, but my Sony Xperia P is constructed of metal, and in my opinion it feels better than plastic:fingers-crossed:
How is it possible to be so much expensive! I pay only US$20 for mine. I use switcheasy colours. nice to touch, but only last 1 year and then cuts appeared in case. had to get new 1. sorry for any bad english.
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Simply because casing adds bulk to the device. If the build is great, there is no need to use any case at all because we are assured that it is fine with heavy duty usage ang rough environment.
It's usually Apple fans that claim Android phones have poor build quality...and then put their delicate iPhones in a protective case.
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Well Iphones are meant to have 'superior build quality' but I think that is debatable
Brand new they look amazing, with a bit of use, not so much. I suppose it all depends on the care taken by the user, but my personal experience with Iphones holding their looks isn't great. My Iphone 4 had numerous scratch marks on the glass. My Iphone 5 was covered with marks on the bezel.
Whilst my samsung phones didn't look as premium, they didn't mark up like the Iphones.
If build quality is based purely on durability, I don't know if a phone being metal makes a difference. If it's based purely on looks, perhaps, but then as I mentioned, the looks of a metal phone don't necessarily hold up.
Also on the subject of 'build quality'. I am definitely in the minority it seems, but I don't like the look of the silver HTC one. Sure it's aluminium, but for whatever reason I just don't think it looks that good? Just thought I would put it out there because everyone goes on and out about how good the HTC one looks
because people in their nature don't like to waste their hard earned $ on something made of chew-able toy plastics, especially far an expensive flagship phones
its like questioning or undermining everything fine in life, why do u pay for that expensive leather or well designed wallet, its just a wallet after all
or why do you pay good money for a good quality car with fancy dashboard, a crash is a crash after all
i am sorry but this makes no sense
justifying lack of taste or quality by the "case" argument is just like hiding your head in the sand
there real question is: Why is the richest Android builder of them all so dead cheap with it's loyal customers?
and the answer is: LEMONS
Alternative answer: it's all wasted on marketing
Stop justifying lemons, currently Samsung is sitting at the rock bottom when it comes to design or quality, you name it, Apple, Sony, HTC, LG, Nokia even Huwai are all building better than your (un)precious Samsung
Personally I couldn't care less what the phone is made of, because at the end of the day the phone is a productivity tool. What matters is what I can *do* with the phone, not what it looks like or feels like. I could understand if metal was more durable than plastic, but that is debatable. My phone is plastic and it's in the same shape as the day I bought it. My iPod touch is metal and has tons of scratches on the back. I've treated them the same.
The problem with phones made of metal is that they typically have a non-removable battery and many of them don't even have a microSD slot! When it comes down to form vs. function, I'm going to choose function every time.
It's about material choice and balance for the money spent.
Plastic is good, like the Nexus 5 but glossy plastic is bad as it is fingerprint magnet and fugly (S4). Aluminium also dents, Check out all the 6 months after of HTC One and iPhone.
Also price matters too, you don't wanna spend a lot of money just to get a cheap looking and feeling plastic.
And most people use cases but it's always good to have a great built quality inside.
A sound phone dwells within a sound built quality, and a sound case.
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Build quality and using a case are 2 different issues, using a case doesn't mask the build quality....like poor headphone sockets that go wrong, or buttons that get stuck (hard to press).
Personally I always drop my phone - clumsy in nature! So have to have a case. Now i'm looking for one which has a battery built in to double my usage time for the Samsung S4. That chomps up battery like nobody's business. I am a heavy user to be fair. Just my 2 cents
I think there used to be a thread on this, but I can't find it anymore. Here's my question:
I'm looking for a thin leather case for my S6. Not so much a wallet style case, sleeve, or one with a closure, just a protector for the back and sides of the device. My experience with PU or low-grade leather (<$20) isn't great, so I'm fine spending a little more money (>$50).
Ideally, it would be brown and available in the US. The options I've seen so far don't fit in with the color, price, or domestic availability. Any suggestions? If you're going to suggest these, I've already looked at them and they are a bust:
I'm an XDA noob, so I'm prevented from posting links, but I've looked at cases from Stilgut (can't order from Amazon US and potential returns to DE seem difficult), Sena (no back-only case for the S6), Vaja (not making a case for the S6), and Montblanc (if I'm gonna spend $110, I need one that is perfect, i.e., brown). None fit the bill.
Again, apologies if this is a duplicate thread. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. As an aside, I'd consider a wooden case, but none of those (Carved, Toast, etc.) seem to be what I'm looking for either.
I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
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I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
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Currently choosing between Galaxy S6 and iPhone 6. As silly as it might sound, a good leather (shell) case is one of my highest priorities.
I broke 3 iPhone 5's until I put the official leather case on it (I always disliked plasticky cases).
It added more grip, and just enough protection from average falls.
Ridiculous really. Choosing a $1000 piece of tech based on a $50 accessory. But that's just how it is.
Hopefully someone knows of something.
They haven't announced the S6 case yet but I have always been happy with with Vajacases - if you are willing to drop some extra cash. Here's one of the options for the S5: http://www.vajacases.com/galaxy-s5-leather-cases/premium-leather-grip
Edit: I see you mentioned Vaja is not making an S6 case. What is your source? It usually takes them a few months before the new models are ready.
There actually was a thread on this subject until recently, but when trying to find it now, I just realized it has inexplicably been deleted. Had a few good examples in it, but they're obviously not reachable now. I'll post the link here below in case the thread turns up again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/accessories/simple-leather-wallet-case-t3095597/
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They haven't announced the S6 case yet but I have always been happy with with Vajacases - if you are willing to drop some extra cash. Here's one of the options for the S5: {link removed because I'm new and can't have links in any of my posts}
Edit: I see you mentioned Vaja is not making an S6 case. What is your source? It usually takes them a few months before the new models are ready.
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I contacted Vaja through their website back in April and they told me that it was under development. When I checked in last week, they said that a case for the S6 "is not currently being planned for production. We planned to develop a line in the past but I am afraid right now the project has been cancelled."
Whether that means it may show up later, who knows, but for now we're out of luck. Boo.
Yeah, no clue either why the other thread disappeared. It led me to a couple of versions of Apple-esque leather Galaxy S6 cases on eBay.
This one without a plastic fill in the camera/HRM cutout is the one that I already bought in dark blue for my black S6. In short:
Top and bottom are left uncovered
Fit is pretty good, no looseness anywhere really
The power + volume down buttons are both properly clicky
The volume up is pretty mushy, but not too bad
No interference with headphone jack or bottom USB port
The width of the case means that the camera module no longer touches the surface when laid on its back
It does NOT, however, appear to have any lift on the front so your screen will touch the surface when laid facedown
The last item was probably so that swiping in from the edge of the screen is still quite comfortable
Overall I'm pleased enough with the quality and feel of the PU leather cases that I might end up also trying out this slightly different version with plastic fill for the camera/HRM cutout . I'm not sure if it's unclear photos but it looks like this version has full coverage around at least the top of the bottom?
Anyhow, the one that I have feels a lot like the Apple Leather case I've tried out on iPhone 6, which is exactly what I was looking for.
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Yeah, no clue either why the other thread disappeared. It led me to a couple of versions of Apple-esque leather Galaxy S6 cases on eBay.
This one without a plastic fill in the camera/HRM cutout is the one that I already bought in dark blue for my black S6. In short:
Top and bottom are left uncovered
Fit is pretty good, no looseness anywhere really
The power + volume down buttons are both properly clicky
The volume up is pretty mushy, but not too bad
No interference with headphone jack or bottom USB port
The width of the case means that the camera module no longer touches the surface when laid on its back
It does NOT, however, appear to have any lift on the front so your screen will touch the surface when laid facedown
The last item was probably so that swiping in from the edge of the screen is still quite comfortable
Overall I'm pleased enough with the quality and feel of the PU leather cases that I might end up also trying out this slightly different version with plastic fill for the camera/HRM cutout . I'm not sure if it's unclear photos but it looks like this version has full coverage around at least the top of the bottom?
Anyhow, the one that I have feels a lot like the Apple Leather case I've tried out on iPhone 6, which is exactly what I was looking for.
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Wow, thank you so much. The "more expensive one" is exactly what I am looking for. No cutouts on the side or anything. Looks perfect. Out of curiosity, how long did shipping take? I have the worst luck with that kind of thing, and it looks like it ships out of China.
Also, since you have the dark blue/black S6, can you throw up a few images for me?
I just ordered one of each... hopefully they arrive before S7....
Looks like one of these would work. Thanks for the tip.
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Wow, thank you so much. The "more expensive one" is exactly what I am looking for. No cutouts on the side or anything. Looks perfect. Out of curiosity, how long did shipping take? I have the worst luck with that kind of thing, and it looks like it ships out of China.
Also, since you have the dark blue/black S6, can you throw up a few images for me?
I just ordered one of each... hopefully they arrive before S7....
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Yeah, the buttons on the second cases I linked in my post look like they'll have better buttons. On mine it's like... slits on each end of the button section.
Shipping was surprisingly fast for me. I think I wanted like... just under two weeks? I was quoted a shipment time like 30+ days from purchase (which is insane), so I was pleasantly surprised when it showed up in normal China --> US shipment time.
If I can get a few minutes to myself at home tonight I'll try and snap a few choice pics of the dark blue on my black S6.
Though it's not without its tradeoffs, I think you'll be more than pleased with your order
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Yeah, the buttons on the second cases I linked in my post look like they'll have better buttons. On mine it's like... slits on each end of the button section.
Shipping was surprisingly fast for me. I think I wanted like... just under two weeks? I was quoted a shipment time like 30+ days from purchase (which is insane), so I was pleasantly surprised when it showed up in normal China --> US shipment time.
If I can get a few minutes to myself at home tonight I'll try and snap a few choice pics of the dark blue on my black S6.
Though it's not without its tradeoffs, I think you'll be more than pleased with your order
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Awesome man - thanks for the info!
Much appreciated on the pics!
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I think there used to be a thread on this, but I can't find it anymore. Here's my question:
I'm looking for a thin leather case for my S6. Not so much a wallet style case, sleeve, or one with a closure, just a protector for the back and sides of the device. My experience with PU or low-grade leather (<$20) isn't great, so I'm fine spending a little more money (>$50).
Ideally, it would be brown and available in the US. The options I've seen so far don't fit in with the color, price, or domestic availability. Any suggestions? If you're going to suggest these, I've already looked at them and they are a bust:
I'm an XDA noob, so I'm prevented from posting links, but I've looked at cases from Stilgut (can't order from Amazon US and potential returns to DE seem difficult), Sena (no back-only case for the S6), Vaja (not making a case for the S6), and Montblanc (if I'm gonna spend $110, I need one that is perfect, i.e., brown). None fit the bill.
Again, apologies if this is a duplicate thread. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. As an aside, I'd consider a wooden case, but none of those (Carved, Toast, etc.) seem to be what I'm looking for either.
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I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
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I found a high end solution for you guys as well. Reviews on Bouletta from the Sony forums talk about them being some of the highest quality leather cases on the market.
BLACK: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?i...xy_s6_ultimate_jacket_other_models-uj_rbt1_s6
BROWN: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?i...xy_s6_ultimate_jacket_other_models-uj_rbt5_s6
Looks nice, but having the cut outs on the side just make it feel cheap to me...Even if it's of the highest quality
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Looks nice, but having the cut outs on the side just make it feel cheap to me...Even if it's of the highest quality
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I know exactly what you mean. Originally I wanted an Xperia Z3, but there are literally no cases available without massive side cut-outs. The Z3 one is borderline ridiculous: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?id_product=103&controller=product
The Galaxy S6 one isn't too bad. Not as good as the standard Apple one though unfortunately =\
I have the second case linked from ebay earlier. It is nowhere near leather feeling. I would say it feels more like a smoothed out velvet than anything. Also, the case does not really offer any protection for the front. It might stick out 1mm past the screen. Overall it is an okay case for the price, but if anyone wants a "leather" feel to a case, this is not the one for you. The buttons are not that great either. You lose most of the tactility from the keys with the case. I imagine over time they will break in and feel better, but after a week of use it doesn't feel great, but doesn't feel as bad as it did at first.
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I found a high end solution for you guys as well. Reviews on Bouletta from the Sony forums talk about them being some of the highest quality leather cases on the market.
BLACK: no links for me
BROWN: no links for me
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Am I missing something? I can't seem to find a price/how to buy? Is it a non-US site?. Also, the brown case looks grayish, no? (I'm legit color blind though, so that could just be my broken eyes)
Hey that bouletta case looks really nice. However, is the thickness of the back of the case enough so that the camera doesn't touch the surface the phone is placed on? I've seen many posts of people saying how they cracked the camera lenses after just putting the s6 on its back like on a table or something similar.
Thanks
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Am I missing something? I can't seem to find a price/how to buy? Is it a non-US site?. Also, the brown case looks grayish, no? (I'm legit color blind though, so that could just be my broken eyes)
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You're right. I've sent them an email to find out.
ARRIVED!!
This one came in today : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Orig...Domain_0&var=570673785727&hash=item3f4af29e66
Gotta say... i'm insanely impressed. I can't imagine getting much closer to the official Apple Leather case than this. Sure, there is virtually no drop protection, but that's not what I'm into. Just need to keep it scratch free and get that camera bump evened out. I have attached some pics.
Biggest problem for most people will be lack of lip around the screen. It's pretty much flush with the aluminum on the device. I actually prefer that since I never ever place my device face down... so i'm able to still feel the slight curve to the glass.
The buttons are a little stiff right now - but I'm going to chalk that up to material. It'd be awesome if they wear in over time, but not a big deal if they don't. I'm thrilled with this thing for 8 bucks... could easily sell for 30 in US retail stores.
I also got the 5 dollar version and it's not nearly as nice. That two dollars makes all the difference in the world apparently.
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This one came in today : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Orig...Domain_0&var=570673785727&hash=item3f4af29e66
Gotta say... i'm insanely impressed. I can't imagine getting much closer to the official Apple Leather case than this. Sure, there is virtually no drop protection, but that's not what I'm into. Just need to keep it scratch free and get that camera bump evened out. I have attached some pics.
Biggest problem for most people will be lack of lip around the screen. It's pretty much flush with the aluminum on the device. I actually prefer that since I never ever place my device face down... so i'm able to still feel the slight curve to the glass.
The buttons are a little stiff right now - but I'm going to chalk that up to material. It'd be awesome if they wear in over time, but not a big deal if they don't. I'm thrilled with this thing for 8 bucks... could easily sell for 30 in US retail stores.
I also got the 5 dollar version and it's not nearly as nice. That two dollars makes all the difference in the world apparently.
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Thanks for the pictures. It looks to be a little off around the bottom of the phone. Is it just the angle of the picture or is that the case?
I had purchased something like this for an iPhone 6 plus that I had and it just slightly didn't fit the phone. The cut out for the camera was off were it wouldn't sit flush with the back of the phone. I ended up just biting the bullet and paying the 50 odd bucks for the apple one. It would be nice if there was a decent quality real leather option, even if the price was higher. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Again thanks for the picture.
I just got a huge scratch on the Black surround on the rear camera from the zipper in my coat jacket oddly enough. Anyone know of of glass protector or similar for the rear Camera area ? Darn phone went from the box into a ringke case before I even turned it on, covered the screen with a tempered glass protector. , and my jacket zipper scratches it ???
Crazy. There goes my used resale value I guess.
Such another great example at why this trend from mftr's making their phones as thin as friggin' possible does nothing but gives us smaller battery capacity and exposed camera humps. Apple had the idea right, recess the lens in the rear housing to avoid it from getting scratched. Seriously, it seems like all Android mftr's keep doing this stupid trend of rear camera humps, drives me nuts. Make the phone just 1.5mm thicker, fill that space with battery AND protect the camera. Win-win.
If you had a case though, how'd the ring get scratched?
I've read all these scratched this and that threads. Either some people have bad luck or are careless with their phones. Either case why blame LG?
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I've read all these scratched this and that threads. Either some people have bad luck or are careless with their phones. Either case why blame LG?
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Why not make the phone 1mm or 2mm thicker, give us another 1000mah of battery capacity, and protect the camera lens in the process?
Apple. That's why.
I keep my phone in my jacket chest pocket. (Not my pants pocket for protection or so I thought) and the zipper must have snagged the rear Camera housing. It's just cosmetic but pretty big. Yes it's seems odds that is got caught with a case on, but it did ?. Bummer since I take some may steps to keep my devices mint (no keys, no drops, no water etc.), to get owned by a coat zipper just sucks.
Sorry to hear... the rear camera rim is anodized aluminum. It will scratch easy if it comes into contact with keys, zippers, and such
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Such another great example at why this trend from mftr's making their phones as thin as friggin' possible does nothing but gives us smaller battery capacity and exposed camera humps. Apple had the idea right, recess the lens in the rear housing to avoid it from getting scratched. Seriously, it seems like all Android mftr's keep doing this stupid trend of rear camera humps, drives me nuts. Make the phone just 1.5mm thicker, fill that space with battery AND protect the camera. Win-win.
If you had a case though, how'd the ring get scratched?
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Uh, isn't the iPhone one of the thinner phones around? Manufacturers having exposed camera lenses/rings have nothing to do with the thinness of the phone, but just a design choice they make.
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Uh, isn't the iPhone one of the thinner phones around? Manufacturers having exposed camera lenses/rings have nothing to do with the thinness of the phone, but just a design choice they make.
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I agree ... nothing to do with Apple or iPhone.
And if I may add, it's not just a design choice, it's what the people want. There are thicker phones and there are thinner phones. They keep getting thinner because that's what the consumer buys.
I do think that every scratch, nick, broken or cracked screen or other is from either neglect (not often) or accident (most often) based on the differences between the way one was able to treat their previous phone, and the fragility of their new phone because of it's design changes. This isn't an attack on anyone who's damaged or broken any part of their phone, (it's happened to me), but I take responsibility for my actions and recognized I could-have/should-have been a bit more careful ....
... (and re-think having kids. ;- )
SaintlySins said:
I agree ... nothing to do with Apple or iPhone.
And if I may add, it's not just a design choice, it's what the people want. There are thicker phones and there are thinner phones. They keep getting thinner because that's what the consumer buys.
I do think that every scratch, nick, broken or cracked screen or other is from either neglect (not often) or accident (most often) based on the differences between the way one was able to treat their previous phone, and the fragility of their new phone because of it's design changes. This isn't an attack on anyone who's damaged or broken any part of their phone, (it's happened to me), but I take responsibility for my actions and recognized I could-have/should-have been a bit more careful ....
... (and re-think having kids. ;- )
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I'm a consumer, and I happen to want a phone back that is completely flush so my camera lens/ring is protected, not vulnerable. Thickening the phone up a bit could also allow a few hundred more mah of battery as well, that's a win-win.
Judging by the OP, I'm not the only one.
Consumers only buy what's available to them, simple as that. Apple started the "thin-ness" war with their announcement of the iPhone 4 I believe it was. They advertised it on-stage as "the thinnest smartphone ever" and the war began. This notion that somehow the consumer demands a 7.3mm phone versus that of a 8.7mm phone is ridiculous. Consumers aren't demanding that, it's a marketing tactic. In fact, on every tech site I visit it's always about battery life and camera quality. Batteries that get smaller/thinner do the opposite, and an exposed camera/lens is antithetical as well.
Face it, Apple sets trends on thinness. They have an obsession with it, which means all the Android mftr's follow suit. All I'm saying is why not make the phone 1.5mm thicker, make the phone back flush to protect the camera and lens, and give more battery life in the process? As a consumer, that's what I want.
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I'm a consumer, and I happen to want a phone back that is completely flush so my camera lens/ring is protected, not vulnerable. Thickening the phone up a bit could also allow a few hundred more mah of battery as well, that's a win-win.
Judging by the OP, I'm not the only one.
Consumers only buy what's available to them, simple as that. Apple started the "thin-ness" war with their announcement of the iPhone 4 I believe it was. They advertised it on-stage as "the thinnest smartphone ever" and the war began. This notion that somehow the consumer demands a 7.3mm phone versus that of a 8.7mm phone is ridiculous. Consumers aren't demanding that, it's a marketing tactic. In fact, on every tech site I visit it's always about battery life and camera quality. Batteries that get smaller/thinner do the opposite, and an exposed camera/lens is antithetical as well.
Face it, Apple sets trends on thinness. They have an obsession with it, which means all the Android mftr's follow suit. All I'm saying is why not make the phone 1.5mm thicker, make the phone back flush to protect the camera and lens, and give more battery life in the process? As a consumer, that's what I want.
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Wait ... let's not battle .... I respect your opinion ... but mine is different about what people want and what "drives a market"
We agree that everyone is within every right to have needs and wants different than what the phone is giving. But if there's going to be a trade off somewhere. That trade off is to either gets something that fits the consumers first choices regardless of what it looks like ... or take what's leading the market and adapt it to work in/within the limits of the original design. I believe that the majority of the market would take a phone as thin as a credit card if it did the job. We want this in our laptops and our TV's .... and we certainly want it in our phones.
Another thing we want in our cell phones is a camera. So much so, it runs in parallel to the thin-factor demand. There's not room enough for a better-camera-than-my-last-phone-had .... AND ... a thinner-than-my-last-phone ... therefore "Form Follows Function" is the factor here ... hence the shapes and design of the new phones.
And the design and form of the new flagship-phones give the best of both worlds in a package that requires different care and handling than the previous phones. That's my explanation as to why these phones may seem more fragile than expected ... but my explanation is why it's "mostly" users not adapting to the design they chose.
I will disagree that being first to market with a design that fit a demand .... does not "drive the market", rather, it only reinforces that's what the consumer prefers, , especially when other companies mimic or copy the design and it continues in that direction I'm not discounting Apple's genius, or your recognition of it ... only stating it doesn't "drive" a market that was heading in that direction since we left the bulky, elongated and Flip-Phones and when to flatter, exposed screen and keyboard phones long before Apple produced a phone.
Hope that better explains my perspective in a way that doesn't come across as an argument to you ... rather in defense of my position and opinion.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This post will likely end up long and meandering so here are some pictures to help you decide if you are interested in reading on.
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Those that have come across my waffle in this forum or elsewhere before will know that I was (and am) a total convert to ruggedized handsets. I work as a forester, as well as being a keen mountain biker, motorbike rider, kayaker and alcoholic.
To those ends, the S7 Active was the best device I've ever owned by a huge margin. The things that it survived with zero added protection beyond a glass screen protector were out of this world. It is still in daily use in my family. The battery has seen better days but overall the physical condition and functionality of the phone are near perfect.
Why on earth would I trade that device for one constructed almost entirely from glass? Well, I'm not sure. I still have massive reservations about the decision but at the end of the day: no mainstream manufacturer is currently producing a top-tier ruggedized device, and I wanted an unlocked bootloader and glorious custom roms back in my life which ruled out a couple of slightly older options.
I almost went with the AGM X3 but the lack of OIS in the camera, and the unknown quality of manufacture made the now obscene price tag just a little bit too much of a gamble.
Anyway: once the Note 9 arrived I realised just how fragile this thing was. I was filled with regret to the point that I actually considered just putting it on ebay; so sure was I that it would be smashed to pieces in a matter of days.
After installing Dr Ketan's rom, I changed my tune. I committed myself to finding a functional protection solution that would work for me without interrupting wireless charging and without turning it into a brick (it is heavy enough as it comes!).
My office is presently littered with poor purchase decisions; cases that promised the world and delivered a ham sandwich.
I also struggled because there was only 1 case that would match up with the relatively expensive handlebar mounts I already have on all my gear, but that case did not quite meet my requirements on a few fronts.
I tried to find the largest genuine leather wallet case that I could find, with initial plans to simply swap cases to my quadlock case when I wanted to go out for a ride. Unfortunately, I found that the quad lock case was so god damn well-constructed that the mere act of inserting and removing the phone felt like I was eventually going to do some damage. This is not your everyday sleeve case! it is constructed from some sort of hybrid, rubberised material with a massive amount of retained stiffness. It is absolutely tough as nails and has very little flex once the phone is inserted....it is an absolute nightmare to remove once it is on there, which is fantastic to give you a bit of peace of mind once you hit 200km/h!
It also has a little bit of screen protection due to the large protrusions top and bottom which mean that the screen does not contact the surface you lay it on face down. Still, no face protection.
I have no wish to join the legion of people walking around with a cracked screen, and the curved screens that samsung insist on using are well prone to easy breakage...I needed more coverage!
I ordered a hand made 2-part, magnetic, genuine leather BEMFEY wallet case from Turkey. It was not cheap, but the workmanship on the wallet portion is top notch. It also fits cash without having to fold notes, holds 4 cards and will absolutely outlast the device it was built for.
Unfortunately, the leather sleeve portion was an absolute piece of junk: brown epoxy gack everywhere, screen sat flush with absolutely zero protection, thin, no button cutouts: just overall a terrible idea if you had any plans of protecting your investment. Probably ok for desk workers.
Long story short: I did what any good forester would do and started thinking outside the box. Attached a thin iron plate to the rear of my quad lock case with epoxy, and am now using this as an insert into the BEMFEY wallet case. Results so far are impressive.
The magnets in the bemfey case are strong as hell, and though I will probably add another tiny iron plate on the top side I have never once come close to the phone coming away from the case accidentally. Even if it did, the Quad lock case is tough as hell and I have a bit of faith in it on it's own.
Together though, I doubt anyone else has got this level of functionality or protection on their Note 9. I've dropped it numerous times already: in the bush, on a plane, onto a tiled floor. Zero problem.
When it's time to ride, I peel the phone out of the wallet, securely lock it to my bars and pop the wallet it my pocket. Winning on all fronts.
It cost me a pretty penny to get there but I think I'm keeping this setup! In the grand scheme of things, it is worth investing 10% of your phone cost to make sure that it doesn't die an early death. If anyone wants to replicate, you can find quadlock on google and BEMFEY can be tracked down on their Etsy store. They will custom make to order including laser engraving if that is your thing.
Hey how good are the Quad Lock cases? Why I’m asking I’m fairly active, and i don’t want my Note 9 falling off my arm! I’m interested the arm band i been waiting for Supcase as they had a awesome Armband case for the S8+!
On that the band would feed behind the case it had a slit cut out so no matter what one would do jump run mountain biking etc. no way is the S8+ falling out! The supcase come in 2 parts soft tpu rubber and hard plastic the plastic as a lip, so when you put in the phone the tpu rubber would wrap around the hard plastic so it locks the phone in
i have been looking at other armbands, but they got a lock system and they kind of suck! i was planning on gluing the lock into the armband this is a supcase one Ive seen , but now i just saw your post and just found out about Quad lock! Could you please let me know, how reliable the lock is or would I need to glue it locked??? Thanks
As stated above, their build quality is epic.
I can't guarantee anything on the armband as I don't use one but it appears to have the exact same mounting hardware as the motorbike mount including the release switch. I can tell you right now, there is no way in hell it will come off if the hardware is the same.
I have crashed my motorbike offroad at speed, bruising myself up fairly impressively and this thing didn't go anywhere.
My gf is getting into running again and I plan to get her one of the quadlock armbands soon. You pay a bit, but you can keep the mount parts for your next phone. Even if you buy something exotic, you can just grab the universal mount or pry it off your old one and epoxy it on to a case.