Does it matter which USB cable I get? - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is probably a noob question, but is there any specific micro usb cable I should get for this phone? The one that comes with it is so short. Is there any specific wattage or mAh I need to look for before buying a longer cable?

I don't think usb cable matters ,,,,only thing is you have to use correct adapter

pchetan2 said:
I don't think usb cable matters ,,,,only thing is you have to use correct adapter
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Hmmm... how would I know which car charger to get then? The one I got has a 2.4a port and a 2.1a port

You can use the same adapter that came within the box

USB cables make a huge difference, more than people realize, especially if you want a cable that's longer than 3ft. Try to find one that has 24AWG wiring

Yes, it does matter. Since we can't see internal wires, we don't know what its gauge is. I have changed to original cable (comes with phone) to get faster charging.
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ngvuanh said:
Yes, it does matter. Since we can't see internal wires, we don't know what its gauge is. I have changed to original cable (comes with phone) to get faster charging.
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You can search for them, and a lot of times it is imprinted on the cable. look for 28/24AWG, this means that the signaling wires are 28AWG and the power wires are 24AWG. The safest bet is to get genuine cables for any of the leading smartphone manufacturers like Samsung, LG or Motorola.
Monoprice is also a good source - http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2

I know cable specification would be imprinted out side with most trusted brands, but some times there is no print on cheap chinese cables.
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yeah it matter i tried charging mine with the samsung adapter but a longer USB cable from ebay somewhere didn;t even charge the phone to 100% over night got to 80.

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USB cable?

Anyone know where to buy the same cable with charger plug that comes with the phone? I bought a samsung cable off amazon and it doesn't work. Thanks.
It's a standard micro-USB cable. Amazon has some non-generics made by Blackberry for a little over a dollar.
I bought the Samsung Replacement USB Data Charging Cable for Samsung SPH-M330, SCH-R100, SGH-T939, SCH-R850 and it does not work with the Charge.
I bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049IE70I and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001XXUOQI
I think the second one is the one you are saying you bought...I bought 4 of them and they all work.
I know its just a normal micro usb cable, but I also would like to find a few more of the factory cables that came with the Charge. They are really nice quality. If you compare part numbers the Charge cable and charger have a newer part number than what is currently available on samsungs website. Maybe they are slowly phasing the new cable and charger in replacing the older style.
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The micro USB cable I'm using now that worked with the Thunderbolt does not work with the Charge. Does anyone know of any 6ft cables they know work with the Charge? I'm also wondering if it might be the cigarette adapter that is not up to the task.
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
cheap generics
MyCableMart offers some great deals on cables. I bought a 6ft and a 10ft from them and both work great with my Charge.
mycablemart(dot)com/store/cart.php?c=26&m=product_list#USB
p.s. I can't post links yet
foister82 said:
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
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+1. Be careful. Any old USB to micro-USB cable will charge the phone, but you won't be reading or writing data without the proper version of the cable. I found that out the hard way after trying to get Odin to recognize the Charge with a generic cable for an hour before finally trying the OEM Samsung cable
I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
Any micro USB should work and can be bought anywhere. I used the micro USB cable from my WD Passport.
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Just go with monoprice... http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303#1030307
If you're not familiar with them- they do great quality cables (across the board) for dirt cheap...hdmi, home theater, computer etc...p.s. their LCD mounts are great and cheap too.
I'm personally trying to track down a good quality retractable micro-usb cable for use in the car...I looked at a few on amazon, but the reviews were sketchy for some issues with the connector not being long enough. Anyone have any experience?
smguy101 said:
I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
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+1 I am also using Motorola cables without any issues. Superb quality, using them for everything.
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I only use the samsung cable when using odin. I read there is an extra pin for data but I might be wrong or motorola used the same data pin. I have 2 retractable cables I use, ine I keep in my bag for data transfer/charging and one in my work desk for charging only. My work Mac hates when I plug in the data cable so It's just safer to use the charge only cable if I'm not transfering data.
Apparently the Charge has a special cable with some pin that allows flashing through Odin.
Not only that, I'm pretty sure you need the correct type of cable for the correct voltage output(if you want a full and fast charge)
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
aesalazar said:
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
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I wouldn't join AT&T over something so minor as a USB cable. Verizon's network much more reliable imo.
It's not the phone that is causing the charge only/charge and data issue it's the cable itself. Some cables are marketed as charge only cables that are not made with any wires for data. There are universal cables for data and charging that have these wires.
What I was talking about is a special pin for use with Odin. Possibly a special factory function or error checking. That's why I always use the factory cable for flashing.
FYI: The cable I bought is defective as it won't work on my friends dx2 either. I still would like to know where to get the official cable from (assuming the price is not crazy) if anyone knows.
Thanks for the info guys. Interesting about that extra pin. Also a bit of a PITA since it nice to be able to use just any cable lying around.
Ernie

Stock charger with USB extension cable.

I'm using the stock charger but the cable is a bit short for me. I have two 3' USB extension cables but neither of them allow the tab to charge. The tab lights up as though I plugged the charger in but it doesn't ding nor does it actually charge. That are standard extensions and work with my Kindle & various HTC cell phones but not my TF300T. Anyone know why or could someone suggest a brand/type of USB extension cable that would work? I am also comfortable with buying a new one and rewiring or swapping wires on it if need be or buying wire and 2 ends and soldering it myself.
Since the tab is 15v and USB is 5v I'm guessing they swapped a wire somewhere in the plug to allow for more voltage.
Thoughts?
Kipper667 said:
I'm using the stock charger but the cable is a bit short for me. I have two 3' USB extension cables but neither of them allow the tab to charge. The tab lights up as though I plugged the charger in but it doesn't ding nor does it actually charge. That are standard extensions and work with my Kindle & various HTC cell phones but not my TF300T. Anyone know why or could someone suggest a brand/type of USB extension cable that would work? I am also comfortable with buying a new one and rewiring or swapping wires on it if need be or buying wire and 2 ends and soldering it myself.
Since the tab is 15v and USB is 5v I'm guessing they swapped a wire somewhere in the plug to allow for more voltage.
Thoughts?
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You have to use a USB 3.0 extension cable.
Seriously? That's it? Man, I feel like a dummy. It never would have occurred to me that 3.0 was necessary. Thank you for the help!
Kipper667 said:
Seriously? That's it? Man, I feel like a dummy. It never would have occurred to me that 3.0 was necessary. Thank you for the help!
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Yep that is it.
I bought my USB 3.0 extension cable from www.caseen.com. They also carry the stock chargers, cables and a couple other items that I was unaware even existed (a 2 port USB hub that plugs into the USB on your TF300T dock WITH an Ethernet port so you can connect DIRECTLY instead of staying wireless!). Fairly decent pricing and fast shipping.

Cables or adapters for USB C

Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
Confused or not you really should spend some time reading through the other threads that are already here.
The situation has started to clear up quite a bit but all the info is already here.
I started to read through one of the threads but I just got more confused. Lots of talk about what wouldn't work and the one plus one cables being bad.
I'd be happy to research more on my own, if you could point me in the direction of a quality thread or post.
Thanks
Essentially, some companies are producing USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables that don't meet the standards set out by the USB Consortium (made up of Google, Apple, and many other tech companies). These cables that don't meet the specification could allow a device (such as your phone) to try to pull too much current from a charger, USB port, or USB hub and thus damage them. Worst case scenario, they cause a charger to overheat and start a fire!
SO, your best bet is to buy USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables directly from Google or any of the cables Benson Leung (a Google engineer) has reviewed highly. It doesn't matter if they're USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 as the Nexus 6P only supports the slower USB 2.0 speeds and it's all compatible!
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
I sadly have not seen a verified adapter yet. You could take a chance on buying some that haven't been disqualified and test them with this app, and return them if they fail. Otherwise, some people are keeping track of verified accessories on this spreadsheet and someone might find good adapters.
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Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
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I looked through his profile and all of the reviews he's done and none of the adapters have met specifications. You might be better off going with cables instead of adapters.
Thanks you were both very helpful!
All this info above is true. But just an FYI I've had my phone for about a month and only used the micro USB to c adapters (other than a couple times to test with the googled one ) since my case I got had the port too small for the Google charger to fit through and I've never had any issues. The charger or phone doesn't get any hotter or warmer. The phone does charge slower than the Google charger, but that's because the power adapters I'm using are about 1500mah bricks.
Just wanted to chime in that I was not able to get any of my microusb OTG cables working using an adapter. (2 different microusb F to usb-C M adapters purchased through Aliexpress) Perhaps I was just unlucky, though.
They seem to work for connecting to a computer. I also see videos from XDA's youtube channel where they use one of those adapters for connecting a 6p to a computer.
Strangely, one of the adapters shows that it's compliant through the aforementioned app!
The cables/adapters that are out of specification can work fine; but it all depends on how your devices, chargers, and hubs handle the incorrect cable. While you might get lucky and it'll work fine, you might also get unlucky!
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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While I went for the certified cables, most complain because we're spending 10+ on a cable we're used to buying for 4 or 5 bucks... For the longer cord.
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Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
Pilz said:
So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
frigidazzi said:
We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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I know where you are coming from, that's one of the reasons why I sold all of my mirco USB phones/tablets (my Nexus 6 and Shield Tablet LTE). I have 1 good USB-A to USB-C cable 2 USB C-C wall chargers, and a USB C battery pack along with 4 C-C cables.
Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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I have a feeling that the Google chargers will be the best quality ones you can get. I have both of the Google chargers - the single port and dual port - and have had great results with both.
I saw a few type c chargers from chotech on amazon.com the other day. No clue if they are any good though.
Ewto16 said:
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
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Please refer to these 2 OP's for certified Type-C and Type-A to Type-C cables and discussion:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685

Which USB-C cable works with MI4C?

Hi,
I ordered an additional USB-C cable off Amazon: Anker Usb-C to Usb3.0 to have a spare charging / data cable.
So, the first cable that arrived fit into the phone but slipped out at the slightest touch. Additionally, my PC did not recognize the MI4C in any useful way (no MTP, no MI PC Suite) - both work instantly with the original cable.
After contacting Anker support, they said the cable is faulty and immediately sent me a replacement.
The second cable fit into the phone much nicer. It sort of snaps into the socket like it should.
However, my PC still does not recognize it..
Charging seems to work with both cables.. .at least the phone detects that it gets power.
I'm puzzled now.. what is wrong with the phone and/or the cable?
Is the MI4C using some special standard that the cable doesn't support?
Which cables work?
Thanks
Jo
Hey Jo, i use the Anker USB C to USB 3.0 and it works fine withe the Mi-4c and the PC, no problems at all...
Regards
While on the subject... Do you think that Google engineer would approve of the USB cable supplied with our phone???
After reading all his reviews I bought the official Google USB C... I guess they got me...
Supovitz said:
While on the subject... Do you think that Google engineer would approve of the USB cable supplied with our phone???
After reading all his reviews I bought the official Google USB C... I guess they got me...
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No. Because its USB 2 technology and USB 3.1 adapter, like the new OnePlus X
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No. Because its USB 2 technology and USB 3.1 adapter, like the new OnePlus X
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So the cable we have supplied with those phone can damage our phones or PC/laptop?
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So the cable we have supplied with those phone can damage our phones or PC/laptop?
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"Leung adds that this won't have an affect on the OnePlus 2 itself as the handset doesn't support Type-C fast charging, and that the warning is more for owners of the Type-C compliant Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, and Chromebook Pixel." from theverge . com
If you have Nexus or Chromebook with USB Type-C - don't charge him with Mi4C cable
Does anyone know about a good micro-usb to usb-c converter with an 56k ohm resistor?
i use the Anker and its working fine for me - you may buy one of this list rated with 5 stars
Any cable that is approved for Nexus 5X is good for the 4C?
Any USB Typ c "compliant to the Norm" cable will be OK. So i would say yes. But its not a issue if you use a non compliant cable only with mi4c. This will work because our phone throttles the current when being charged with 5V. But if you use it with other equipment later a non compliant cable may damage USB hubs, Laptops USB ports or PSUs. I will Not take this risk and would buy a compliant cable.
Gesendet von meinem Mi-4c mit Tapatalk
This is cheap and compatible I assume https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3w5gth/usb_c_cables_for_180_just_tested_these_with/
Anyone can advice me an OTG cable from Amazon?
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Any USB Typ c "compliant to the Norm" cable will be OK. So i would say yes. But its not a issue if you use a non compliant cable only with mi4c. This will work because our phone throttles the current when being charged with 5V. But if you use it with other equipment later a non compliant cable may damage USB hubs, Laptops USB ports or PSUs. I will Not take this risk and would buy a compliant cable.
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Sorry, but I think I need it once more
The cable we that came with our MI4c phone can only be used with the MI4c phone - and might damage chargers, laptops etc. if we try to charge a "normal" USB-C compatible device (like the Nexus 5X phone) with this cable. Right?
However, using a standard, normal USB-C cable, like the Anker one mentioned earlier in this thread with work with MI4c phones and any other "normal" USB-C compatible device. Right?
I just want to be clear, and not fry anything that doesn't need to be fried, if you understand...
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Sorry, but I think I need it once more
The cable we that came with our MI4c phone can only be used with the MI4c phone - and might damage chargers, laptops etc. if we try to charge a "normal" USB-C compatible device (like the Nexus 5X phone) with this cable. Right?
However, using a standard, normal USB-C cable, like the Anker one mentioned earlier in this thread with work with MI4c phones and any other "normal" USB-C compatible device. Right?
I just want to be clear, and not fry anything that doesn't need to be fried, if you understand...
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YES - thats absolutely correct ! You have understand it right.
Andiii said:
YES - thats absolutely correct ! You have understand it right.
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Thanks. That's good to know
I've been using the mi4c USB for file transfers on my laptop. Is that gonna be a problem?
ermacwins said:
I've been using the mi4c USB for file transfers on my laptop. Is that gonna be a problem?
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As I understand it, its only when 'Charging' devices that the cables you are using becomes important.
Real Type-C devices are USB 3.0 and can draw a lot more power than USB 2.0 devices.. So their cables need a higher rated resistor to protect your devices.
The Mi4C is a USB 2.0 Device with a Type-C connector, hence any cable should be fine as USB 3.0 is backward compatible. But if you use the Mi4C Type-C cable to try and charge a Nexus 6, Lumia 950, Pixel or Mac Book it could fail and damage your device.
I guess that explains why it would barely charge when left connected to my laptop.
I am planning to get a cable .What is the consensus? Which one should I buy?
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I am planning to get a cable .What is the consensus? Which one should I buy?
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Same here. I'm confused because there are many unknown brands and the price range is wide.

Power bank with built-in Type-C cable?

Does anyone know of any power banks with Type-C with a cable built into them? I can find a lot of them for MicroUSB and Lightning, but none for USB-C. (I ask because my previous phone had wireless charging, so I used a Qi power bank to avoid having to bring a cable with me, but I can't do that anymore.)
Bump.
http://www.maximas.mobi/
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http://www.maximas.mobi/
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Interesting product, shame it doesn't have a built in cable though
Have a look at eg. the iVoler 10000mAh Power Bank. This one doesn´t have a built in USB Type C cable but it offers a small cable which fits in every pocket. I guess that this is still better than nothing?
Gorgtech said:
Have a look at eg. the iVoler 10000mAh Power Bank. This one doesn´t have a built in USB Type C cable but it offers a small cable which fits in every pocket. I guess that this is still better than nothing?
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I'm trying to avoid the cable being separate from the charger in my pocket.
there isn't one yet
I had a 3,000 mah version of this that they don't seem to sell anymore for long nights out with my S6 Edge. I think OP is looking for something like this, so am I, since Amazon doesn't have a version with a USB C connector.
appledroid said:
I had a 3,000 mah version of this that they don't seem to sell anymore for long nights out with my S6 Edge. I think OP is looking for something like this, so am I, since Amazon doesn't have a version with a USB C connector.
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Yes, a Type-C version of that is exactly what I'm looking for. At this point, I'd even be happy with a MicroUSB one that had a slot to keep a MicroUSB-to-TypeC adapter in (like how some now have slots for MicroUSB-to-Lightning adapters).
jackmcbarn said:
Yes, a Type-C version of that is exactly what I'm looking for. At this point, I'd even be happy with a MicroUSB one that had a slot to keep a MicroUSB-to-TypeC adapter in (like how some now have slots for MicroUSB-to-Lightning adapters).
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Prior to owning that powerbank, I had this, which I later gave away to a friend with an iPhone. I'm wondering now if it's possible to just buy the USB C adapter and bin the lightning one that comes with it. Worth a try perhaps?
appledroid said:
Prior to owning that powerbank, I had this, which I later gave away to a friend with an iPhone. I'm wondering now if it's possible to just buy the USB C adapter and bin the lightning one that comes with it. Worth a try perhaps?
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I thought about that too, but I'm worried that a type-C adapter won't fit in the Lightning slot since it's bigger.
Still no powerbank with built in type C cable?
I bought on aliexpress, Aukey 16000mah with Quick Charge 2.0 and USB-C.
Sorry my bad English
@DioDk
I think you misunderstand. This thread is not about finding a powerbank that have USB C port on it. It's about finding a powerbank that have a USB C cable permanently attached to it. Something like this, but USB Type-C:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iceworks-5...1-spell&keywords=powerbank+with+cable+imbuilt
I purchased Aukey power bank from amazon several months ago.. the specs are the following: 30000 Mah, 2 usb type A ( one of them supports qc 3.0) and usb type c slot, microusb port is for charging purposes. I'm very satisfied with the product and I recommend u to take a look at it.
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-30000mAh-Portable-Charger-Lightning/dp/B01HRAG2KM

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