Install Lollipop OTA while Rooted - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I am curious if I receive the Lollipop OTA update and choose to install it, what exactly will happen? I am rooted, running stock and franco kernel. I remember I installed the 4.4.4 OTA update while rooted, and it installed fine and I still had root.

If i were u i would unroot...reinstall stock kernel and recovery... Considering the fact that it is biggest ever update..so things may go wrong if not entirely stock...
However since i m nt u...i would rather flash system directly

You can't apply any ota if you have modified system or have a custom kernel, so why not just flash a rooted stock zip, which will come out before you get the OTA.anyway
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Why do people care about an OTA when it will be at least a week after the initial release before a lot of people will even get it?
#stayparanoid

Pirateghost said:
Why do people care about an OTA when it will be at least a week after the initial release before a lot of people will even get it?
#stayparanoid
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Because 99% of XDA have zero idea what they're actually doing and just want to be spoonfed with an OTA.

OP, there is a thread in the sticky roll-up that has all the info you need about OTA's and how to flash them.
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SG3 OTA Update

This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
If you're on the stock recovery and rom I believe you can just install it, you'll just have to re-root after the update.
That said, I would NOT install any OTA update until developers have fully analyzed it, and honestly even after that. For all you know it will lock the bootloader again or cause issues with the current root method. The developers will integrate it into the different roms if necessary. I would suggest unlocking your bootloader and just waiting for a custom rom that you like, even if it's a stock JB one after the update has been out.
TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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Going to have to be back to stock unrooted and locked bootloader would be my guess
but that may be a long time away knowing verizion
jlmr731 said:
Going to have to be back to stock unrooted and locked bootloader would be my guess
but that may be a long time away knowing verizion
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Yeah, if the bootloader is already unlocked or you have a custom rom then you'd want to get back to stock. I read "rooted" as only rooted and nothing else really done rom wise, only app.
One other thing I forgot to mention, if you're not running a custom rom, I'd block OTA updates so they don't keep popping up. Almost all custom roms already take care of this for you, but the below should let you do it manually (this is from another site, I can't post a link yet).
"Delete fota.client.apk and fwupgrade with ES File Explorer in system/apps using ES File Explorer, enable “Root Explorer” and “Mount File System” in settings"
TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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I take this as your running stock TW an just rooted but you're running Google now an wallet with no custom rom? I what methods did you use? Those are specifically the two reasons I want a custom rom. I'm fine with just stock rooted but wants those two apps.
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GreenOnyx said:
If you're on the stock recovery and rom I believe you can just install it, you'll just have to re-root after the update.
That said, I would NOT install any OTA update until developers have fully analyzed it, and honestly even after that. For all you know it will lock the bootloader again or cause issues with the current root method. The developers will integrate it into the different roms if necessary. I would suggest unlocking your bootloader and just waiting for a custom rom that you like, even if it's a stock JB one after the update has been out.
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The problem is that you may just lose root WITH the update.
As well, you could lose the unlocking ability that was recently found and exploited.
Never accept any OTA updates if you want to stay rooted and unlocked.
I used this post for wallet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Google Wallet and Now
this one for Google Now!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29756226&postcount=2857
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TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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yea. only way i would accept is to flash back stock rom in ODIN. easy and fast (well takes about 7 min, but you dont gotta do nuffin but wait). and stock kernel and modem if you changed. but you said just rooted with google walelt and google now.
make sure you wipe data/cache in stock recovery or them two and dalvik in custom recovery. ( i allways waipe before and after rom but that probably over kill.
Hey ty so just run Odin, and it is all good
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For those wondering, I've never seen a major version OTA that did not remove root.
So you can bet you'll lose root with the update.
That said I personally would never accept a single OTA for fear of losing my unlocked bootloader.
ty
Everyone here has been a great help.. This is my first Android phone and rocks my iPhone in everyway...I was a little nervous when I rooted it and started installing custom mods ie...Google wallet, Google Now. I have been thinking about a ROM but I think I'll wait for JB with TW. I'm sure the Dev's will give the ok for the flash once they know we can keep the unlock and root. Thanks again.
Time to keep reading and learning
TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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I wouldn't worry about Verizon pushing out Jelly Bean until next year.

[Q] Samsung Update stopped by ClockworkMod

Hello Everyone,
I'm fairly new to rooting phones and ROMs so if this question dosn't make sense please destroy my inner child I have a rooted sgs3 using odin and factory verizon build but the problem I am having is with ClockwordMod I think. The samsung update restarts the phone but ClockworkMod starts up right away and won't let the update go through. Is there a setting I need to change to allow all updates to bypass ClockworkMod or is there another way for me to get the update?
Any help is much appreciated.
Justin
Sounds to me like cwm just saved you from an auto ota update.
I use twrp so i dont know the answer to your question but if you're rooted, why would you want an ota?
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maniac2k said:
Sounds to me like cwm just saved you from an auto ota update.
I use twrp so i dont know the answer to your question but if you're rooted, why would you want an ota?
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Hello and thank you for the reply. I'm not sure that I need/want it though it continues to ask me to update so it's either keep saying defer or just let it update.
Of you download and flash one of the latest and greatest roms, you wont get asked to update. There is a way you can stop the ota but i dont remember off the top of my head. Im sure google knows. I would just flash a newer rom that includes the update.
hmmmm
maniac2k said:
Of you download and flash one of the latest and greatest roms, you wont get asked to update. There is a way you can stop the ota but i dont remember off the top of my head. Im sure google knows. I would just flash a newer rom that includes the update.
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What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
ndjustin20 said:
What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
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Well I have beans 12 and woke up and my phone also was booted into recovery and stopped the update.
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ndjustin20 said:
What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
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It is going to keep rebooting into CWM if you don't tell it to until you tell it to stop rebooting to recovery, which is an option in the menu system after flashing. If the OTA update installation is being intercepted by CWM's presence on your phone, then I'm not sure if there is a way around it other than flashing a ROM. Someone with more experience will have to chime in.
With that said, should you choose to install a new ROM, there are a plethora of ROM options on XDA, at least some of which have OTA updates disabled. See the following link for a guide (I'm assuming you are on Verizon):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32079760#post32079760
You can flash the stock, rooted ROM back on with ODIN, and then download EZ-Recovery (which has CWM) and load a custom ROM that way.
I use aokp but jellywiz is a nice stock like rom. Just download a rom and flash in cwm.
ndjustin20 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm fairly new to rooting phones and ROMs so if this question dosn't make sense please destroy my inner child I have a rooted sgs3 using odin and factory verizon build but the problem I am having is with ClockwordMod I think. The samsung update restarts the phone but ClockworkMod starts up right away and won't let the update go through. Is there a setting I need to change to allow all updates to bypass ClockworkMod or is there another way for me to get the update?
Any help is much appreciated.
Justin
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If you want the update you should flash back to stock and restore the stock recovery. You can reroot and unlock the boot loader after you update.
Im having same issue. Verizion trying to force my phone to have less features. I was able to ignore it 2 weeks ago but now it keeps trying to force the update and I can keep delaying it. Any good tools you all know of to just block ota updates all together? Pretty happy with stock rom as is no need to fix it minus the copy and paste bug.
You can use Titanium Backup to freeze SDM 1.0 and the update will quit downloading. I'm not sure if freezing apps is supported in the free version but the paid version is well worth it of you plan on switching ROMs.
You could also flash Scotts stock rooted Rom with the latest update, then your phone status will say up to date. I flashed the zip right on my phone through cwm but I'm sure you can use Odin too
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I was in the exact same situation as you. The phone will not update with Clockwork Recovery installed. I simply flashed back to the stock ROM via ODIN (stock.vzw_root66 which a quick search should locate), accepted the OTA update, and then used the beginner's guide in the Android Development forum to get back root.
I use Titanium Backup to freeze SDM 1.0. Like JBO1018 wrote, the PRO version is well worth the price, if only to freeze bloatware. Everything else it offers is gravy.
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[Q] Cannot get Verizon update to work

Over the past month or so I have tried several times to update my S3 with the Jelly Bean update from Verizon. Each time I try it I get a message that the software failed to install.
O I need to unroot the phone and lock the bootloader in order to update? Anyone else had this problem? Right now I am on Android version 4.0.4 and I think the update is 4.1.2.
I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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djteotancolis said:
I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.
HHF2 said:
You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.
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I have not yet ventured into flashing other ROMS but am certainly willing to give it a try. I know there are many available but can you suggest one or two that i can try.
Really tough to suggest a ROM, there are a lot of different options depending on what you are looking for. Clean ROM is pretty much stock that has been optimized, I would probably start there since you have only done stock. You can then make a nandroid and flash other ROMS and see which one you like the best.
Just remember, read all of the stickies so that you have everything backed up in case something goes wrong. It takes less time to read and learn it before you have a problem and then don't have what you need to fix it nor the know-how.
Okay, so I download a ROM zip file. I copy it to me microSD card. I have TWRP on my phone. I assume I just go into recovery mode, wipe the cache and Dalvik cache and then just install the zip via TWRP. Is that all I need to do?
Never mind. I just flashed the Jelly_Beans10 ROM and it works fine.

If you want to update, but you're rooted/custom recovery/custom kernel...

...and you DON'T want to perform a Factory Reset.
Figured this out while returning to the stock kernel after poor performance on a custom one...
THIS WILL LIKELY NOT WORK IF YOU ARE ON A CUSTOM ROM
If you are still on the Stock ROM you can do this to get new updates from your carrier (I have only tried AT&T):
1. Unfreeze AT&T updater (if you have it frozen)
2. Use ODIN to return to stock WITHOUT performing a factory reset. AdamOutler has a thread HERE with the stock firmware download in the Android Development section
3. Boot up and check for updates
4. After you have updated, root it, apply your custom recovery, and/or kernel again
5. Hit the THANKS button below
All your apps and settings will remain. You may have to re-sign-in to some, but you should be good to go.
joeybear23 said:
Figured this out while returning to the stock kernel after poor performance on a custom one...
THIS WILL LIKELY NOT WORK IF YOU ARE ON A CUSTOM ROM
If you are still on the Stock ROM you can do this to get new updates from your carrier (I have only tried AT&T):
1. Unfreeze AT&T updater (if you have it frozen)
2. Use ODIN to return to stock WITHOUT performing a factory reset. AdamOutler has a thread with the stock firmware download in the Android Development section
3. Boot up and check for updates
4. After you have updated, root it, apply your custom recovery, and/or kernel again
5. Hit the THANKS button below
All your apps and settings will remain. You may have to re-sign-in to some, but you should be good to go.
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Where can you find out when carrier updates are released?
This will always work no matter what Rom your on...even if your on aosp...Odin is created so that you can return to stock. Once your on stock you can receive any update available...
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mg2195 said:
This will always work no matter what Rom your on...even if your on aosp...Odin is created so that you can return to stock. Once your on stock you can receive any update available...
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Yes, however if you are on a custom ROM you must perform a factory reset prior to or after ODIN, which will make you lose your apps, settings, etc.
If you are still on the stock ROM, you don't have to factory reset... which is kind of the point for people who want the update but don't want to factory reset.
blyndfyre said:
Where can you find out when carrier updates are released?
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Just follow the forum. When an update is released, I guarantee you there will be no less than 50 new threads in here.
joeybear23 said:
Just follow the forum. When an update is released, I guarantee you there will be no less than 50 new threads in here.
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Assumed as much, but wanted to be sure. I'm on this forum exclusively and hourly anyways lol. So much reading to be done!
Will updates be specific to carrier? For instance I'm on Telus in Canada so I'll need to wait for my specific update, download and flash via ODIN? (Since I'm 'custom' status and won't be able to OTA. Root only, stock recovery, kernel and ROM.)
And thanks btw!
blyndfyre said:
Assumed as much, but wanted to be sure. I'm on this forum exclusively and hourly anyways lol. So much reading to be done!
Will updates be specific to carrier? For instance I'm on Telus in Canada so I'll need to wait for my specific update, download and flash via ODIN? (Since I'm 'custom' status and won't be able to OTA. Root only, stock recovery, kernel and ROM.)
And thanks btw!
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Unfortunately I can't speak for anything other than AT&T since I don't have the ability to test any other carrier's devices... however the update will likely be pushed by your carrier with their proprietary update mechanism.
If you want to use something other than OTA, you can wait for a flashable zip when it comes available, which will likely be pretty quick after initial release.
joeybear23 said:
Unfortunately I can't speak for anything other than AT&T since I don't have the ability to test any other carrier's devices... however the update will likely be pushed by your carrier with their proprietary update mechanism.
If you want to use something other than OTA, you can wait for a flashable zip when it comes available, which will likely be pretty quick after initial release.
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Thanks man. One last question, would this flashable zip flash via ODIN or Custom Recovery (TWRP/CWM) or either method?
blyndfyre said:
Thanks man. One last question, would this flashable zip flash via ODIN or Custom Recovery (TWRP/CWM) or either method?
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Depends on the Developer... most likely a flashable zip for TWRP/CWM
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Depends on the Developer... most likely a flashable zip for TWRP/CWM
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Maybe a tad off topic, but if one were to follow the directions in the OP, wouldn't it still not work? You'd still have the custom unlock button with stock firmware, which would prevent it to look for any OTA update.
Maybe I'm wrong?
MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe a tad off topic, but if one were to follow the directions in the OP, wouldn't it still not work? You'd still have the custom unlock button with stock firmware, which would prevent it to look for any OTA update.
Maybe I'm wrong?
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I thought the same thing, until I tried it and the OTA came over just fine. That's one of the reason I started this thread, so others would know they can do it.
The ODIN gives you back the stock recovery so you can pull the OTA.
joeybear23 said:
I thought the same thing, until I tried it and the OTA came over just fine. That's one of the reason I started this thread, so others would know they can do it.
The ODIN gives you back the stock recovery so you can pull the OTA.
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Do you know if doing so removes the custom unlock icon?
If I'm running custom rom s and kernels would the att update even be beneficial?
MattMJB0188 said:
Do you know if doing so removes the custom unlock icon?
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It will not.
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Bigtjmc said:
If I'm running custom rom s and kernels would the att update even be beneficial?
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ROMs? No
Kernels only? Yes imho
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It will not.
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Ok, how about if one follows your method and then updates via AT&T OTA. Would it then get rid of the custom unlock status? How does one remove this if they're not rooted with 100% stock? I don't get why it still shows it.
MattMJB0188 said:
Ok, how about if one follows your method and then updates via AT&T OTA. Would it then get rid of the custom unlock status? How does one remove this if they're not rooted with 100% stock? I don't get why it still shows it.
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I am not 100% certain what all gets looked at when the firmware runs its "custom status" check. I do know that there are a wide variety of fixes/solutions that work for some and not for others... I have the custom icon, but it doesn't bother me, so I haven't done too much research into it.
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I am not 100% certain what all gets looked at when the firmware runs its "custom status" check. I do know that there are a wide variety of fixes/solutions that work for some and not for others... I have the custom icon, but it doesn't bother me, so I haven't done too much research into it.
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+1
Doesn't bother me one bit, although my bootloader is unlocked so I don't get the unlock icon boot screen.
Maybe a stupid question, but could one flash SGH-I337 UCUAMDL firmware instead since its the latest, or would it better to flash the original firmware then update?
MattMJB0188 said:
Maybe a stupid question, but could one flash SGH-I337 UCUAMDL firmware instead since its the latest, or would it better to flash the original firmware then update?
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Not a stupid question at all. Yes you can do that. When I started this thread there was not one available.
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Can I take OTA update and keep root?

I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted and froze SDM 1.0 with titanium backup to avoid the constant update reminders.
I am now curious can I accept the updates and keep root somehow?
Is something like OTA root keeper worthwhile?
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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dpeeps74 said:
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Ya you need 4.3.
So you have options, since you're have a galaxy gear you're probably going to be running stock TouchWiz, so I would just take the upgrade.
You can root later, but the gear would never work with aosp anyway. Safestrap can make your phone run pretty well with a TouchWiz custom rom if you eventually decide you want one.
Or you can load a custom TouchWiz 4.3 rom right now and see if it connects, then you wouldn't lock your phone down permanently.
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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
scottfarcuz said:
Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
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OK then read the sticky threads in the development section, everything there has guides available for rooting and installing roms, then ask more questions if you have them.
Make sure you're reading the older sticky thread, not the 4.3 one.
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I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
You would probably need to unfreeze everything for the update to work, at least thats what I have heard.
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scottfarcuz said:
I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
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Use this thread to Odin flash 4.3. It's the exact same as taking the Ota.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
I'm sure you already know what taking the update entails, just be absolutely sure it's what you want to do before you flash it. There's no going back.
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