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Preparing for Jelly Bean Update

Hey Everyone, I'm coming from a Asus Transformer tf300 , and my device was rooted, and didn't have bootloader unlocked....when receiving the OTA for Jelly Bean, I was under the impression that Using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would make everything smooth and dandy to take the OTA and still be rooted by restoring at after the update.... Well Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper worked but only half way, and what I mean by that is that the device was rooted but root permission was not given so it was pretty much no point in being rooted, and some say it was because an app called Supersu was not installed prior to the update and when the back up was made, so that app + Superuser had to be present and some people obtained their full root that way....But my point for this thread is to figure out before hand what methods we will take on the tf700 so that many wont be stuck without root when it happens.....I never was able to get full root or unroot or do anything, I ended up selling my tf300 and now have a tf700 so just taking precautions cuz I would love Jelly Bean on here but also would love root...... any suggestions?

I think the best way to prepare for Jellybean is to let some others do it first and see how it goes for them. Maybe we'll be fine, maybe we'll need the supersu trick, maybe we'll need something else entirely. At this point, we simply cant say. As such, better to be cautious.
I've been reading some of the 300 threads on the JB update, and it looks like some people are having issues with their custom recoveries as well. Until there's a full understanding of the consequences of updating, I think those who are on anything other than unrooted locked stock should hold off unless they want to play guinea pig.

The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm

MrTonyToca said:
What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm
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I would say root now, use OTA rootkeeper to protect root and that way when you get the JB OTA you can just use OTA rootkeeper to restore root.

swa2k4 said:
The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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That's well and good for people who are unlocked, but not for people who are locked and just rooted. I dont see a need to really unlock at this point. I will unlock it when I start deving for it in a few days though

I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.

Alitheia said:
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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Let us know if it works.....There was a way to fix the root permissions that they were sayin in the tf300 forum, but it involved alot of adb shell commands and pushing files, and me not being familiar with adb attempted it but wasn't able to execute all the commands, so even if it doesn't work there would be hope! (for people who are good with adb any way) :highfive:

So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?

Diogenes5 said:
Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?
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Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....

MrTonyToca said:
Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....
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Gotcha, thanks for the info. I got confused because I assumed you were using an acronym for "Superuser."

ooonimrodooo said:
So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.

Alitheia said:
Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.
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Same situation .. I have my TF700 root, unlock and installed TWRP ... I must wait for a ROM upload here ..

just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?

Alitheia said:
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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This is my plan, too, except I'm not planning to unlock the TF700 after JB unless it's the only way to stabilize it, like it was with the TF201 after ICS. The stock ROM with root is fine for me if it is stable.

chucky7910 said:
just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
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I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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PolishPoet said:
I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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You are right PolishPoet, I meant unlocked bootloader not rooted. Once the device is updated on a rooted device, it just unroots it, and you will have to root again.
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Gizmocanada

With all of this in mind...
I'm stock at the moment. Does it make more sense to stay stock until JB then root, or to root and try to keep it through the JB upgrade? My root needs aren't urgent.

So far there's no indication rooting under JB will be easy, so better root your tablet first and follow the SuperSU guidelines..

To root or not

I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.

If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!

All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?

Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.

You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.

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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.

buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class

If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing

I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?

You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?

binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free

Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
Sent From The Galaxy via ICS

waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest

ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.

buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest

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Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks

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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.

zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?

Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.

The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.

Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.

usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.

Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.

Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.

Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?

usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.

I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984

nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?

Quacker said:
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.

rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!

newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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[Q] Cannot get Verizon update to work

Over the past month or so I have tried several times to update my S3 with the Jelly Bean update from Verizon. Each time I try it I get a message that the software failed to install.
O I need to unroot the phone and lock the bootloader in order to update? Anyone else had this problem? Right now I am on Android version 4.0.4 and I think the update is 4.1.2.

I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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djteotancolis said:
I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.

HHF2 said:
You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.
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I have not yet ventured into flashing other ROMS but am certainly willing to give it a try. I know there are many available but can you suggest one or two that i can try.

Really tough to suggest a ROM, there are a lot of different options depending on what you are looking for. Clean ROM is pretty much stock that has been optimized, I would probably start there since you have only done stock. You can then make a nandroid and flash other ROMS and see which one you like the best.
Just remember, read all of the stickies so that you have everything backed up in case something goes wrong. It takes less time to read and learn it before you have a problem and then don't have what you need to fix it nor the know-how.

Okay, so I download a ROM zip file. I copy it to me microSD card. I have TWRP on my phone. I assume I just go into recovery mode, wipe the cache and Dalvik cache and then just install the zip via TWRP. Is that all I need to do?

Never mind. I just flashed the Jelly_Beans10 ROM and it works fine.

Can I take OTA update and keep root?

I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted and froze SDM 1.0 with titanium backup to avoid the constant update reminders.
I am now curious can I accept the updates and keep root somehow?
Is something like OTA root keeper worthwhile?

You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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dpeeps74 said:
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher

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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Ya you need 4.3.
So you have options, since you're have a galaxy gear you're probably going to be running stock TouchWiz, so I would just take the upgrade.
You can root later, but the gear would never work with aosp anyway. Safestrap can make your phone run pretty well with a TouchWiz custom rom if you eventually decide you want one.
Or you can load a custom TouchWiz 4.3 rom right now and see if it connects, then you wouldn't lock your phone down permanently.
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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help

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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
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OK then read the sticky threads in the development section, everything there has guides available for rooting and installing roms, then ask more questions if you have them.
Make sure you're reading the older sticky thread, not the 4.3 one.
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I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.

You would probably need to unfreeze everything for the update to work, at least thats what I have heard.
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scottfarcuz said:
I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
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Use this thread to Odin flash 4.3. It's the exact same as taking the Ota.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
I'm sure you already know what taking the update entails, just be absolutely sure it's what you want to do before you flash it. There's no going back.
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