Hey Everyone, I'm coming from a Asus Transformer tf300 , and my device was rooted, and didn't have bootloader unlocked....when receiving the OTA for Jelly Bean, I was under the impression that Using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would make everything smooth and dandy to take the OTA and still be rooted by restoring at after the update.... Well Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper worked but only half way, and what I mean by that is that the device was rooted but root permission was not given so it was pretty much no point in being rooted, and some say it was because an app called Supersu was not installed prior to the update and when the back up was made, so that app + Superuser had to be present and some people obtained their full root that way....But my point for this thread is to figure out before hand what methods we will take on the tf700 so that many wont be stuck without root when it happens.....I never was able to get full root or unroot or do anything, I ended up selling my tf300 and now have a tf700 so just taking precautions cuz I would love Jelly Bean on here but also would love root...... any suggestions?
I think the best way to prepare for Jellybean is to let some others do it first and see how it goes for them. Maybe we'll be fine, maybe we'll need the supersu trick, maybe we'll need something else entirely. At this point, we simply cant say. As such, better to be cautious.
I've been reading some of the 300 threads on the JB update, and it looks like some people are having issues with their custom recoveries as well. Until there's a full understanding of the consequences of updating, I think those who are on anything other than unrooted locked stock should hold off unless they want to play guinea pig.
The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm
MrTonyToca said:
What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm
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I would say root now, use OTA rootkeeper to protect root and that way when you get the JB OTA you can just use OTA rootkeeper to restore root.
swa2k4 said:
The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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That's well and good for people who are unlocked, but not for people who are locked and just rooted. I dont see a need to really unlock at this point. I will unlock it when I start deving for it in a few days though
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
Alitheia said:
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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Let us know if it works.....There was a way to fix the root permissions that they were sayin in the tf300 forum, but it involved alot of adb shell commands and pushing files, and me not being familiar with adb attempted it but wasn't able to execute all the commands, so even if it doesn't work there would be hope! (for people who are good with adb any way) :highfive:
So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?
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Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?
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Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....
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Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....
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Gotcha, thanks for the info. I got confused because I assumed you were using an acronym for "Superuser."
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So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.
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Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.
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Same situation .. I have my TF700 root, unlock and installed TWRP ... I must wait for a ROM upload here ..
just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
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I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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This is my plan, too, except I'm not planning to unlock the TF700 after JB unless it's the only way to stabilize it, like it was with the TF201 after ICS. The stock ROM with root is fine for me if it is stable.
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just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
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I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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PolishPoet said:
I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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You are right PolishPoet, I meant unlocked bootloader not rooted. Once the device is updated on a rooted device, it just unroots it, and you will have to root again.
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With all of this in mind...
I'm stock at the moment. Does it make more sense to stay stock until JB then root, or to root and try to keep it through the JB upgrade? My root needs aren't urgent.
So far there's no indication rooting under JB will be easy, so better root your tablet first and follow the SuperSU guidelines..
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This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
If you're on the stock recovery and rom I believe you can just install it, you'll just have to re-root after the update.
That said, I would NOT install any OTA update until developers have fully analyzed it, and honestly even after that. For all you know it will lock the bootloader again or cause issues with the current root method. The developers will integrate it into the different roms if necessary. I would suggest unlocking your bootloader and just waiting for a custom rom that you like, even if it's a stock JB one after the update has been out.
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This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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Going to have to be back to stock unrooted and locked bootloader would be my guess
but that may be a long time away knowing verizion
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Going to have to be back to stock unrooted and locked bootloader would be my guess
but that may be a long time away knowing verizion
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Yeah, if the bootloader is already unlocked or you have a custom rom then you'd want to get back to stock. I read "rooted" as only rooted and nothing else really done rom wise, only app.
One other thing I forgot to mention, if you're not running a custom rom, I'd block OTA updates so they don't keep popping up. Almost all custom roms already take care of this for you, but the below should let you do it manually (this is from another site, I can't post a link yet).
"Delete fota.client.apk and fwupgrade with ES File Explorer in system/apps using ES File Explorer, enable “Root Explorer” and “Mount File System” in settings"
TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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I take this as your running stock TW an just rooted but you're running Google now an wallet with no custom rom? I what methods did you use? Those are specifically the two reasons I want a custom rom. I'm fine with just stock rooted but wants those two apps.
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GreenOnyx said:
If you're on the stock recovery and rom I believe you can just install it, you'll just have to re-root after the update.
That said, I would NOT install any OTA update until developers have fully analyzed it, and honestly even after that. For all you know it will lock the bootloader again or cause issues with the current root method. The developers will integrate it into the different roms if necessary. I would suggest unlocking your bootloader and just waiting for a custom rom that you like, even if it's a stock JB one after the update has been out.
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The problem is that you may just lose root WITH the update.
As well, you could lose the unlocking ability that was recently found and exploited.
Never accept any OTA updates if you want to stay rooted and unlocked.
I used this post for wallet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Google Wallet and Now
this one for Google Now!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29756226&postcount=2857
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TPSG3 said:
This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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yea. only way i would accept is to flash back stock rom in ODIN. easy and fast (well takes about 7 min, but you dont gotta do nuffin but wait). and stock kernel and modem if you changed. but you said just rooted with google walelt and google now.
make sure you wipe data/cache in stock recovery or them two and dalvik in custom recovery. ( i allways waipe before and after rom but that probably over kill.
Hey ty so just run Odin, and it is all good
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For those wondering, I've never seen a major version OTA that did not remove root.
So you can bet you'll lose root with the update.
That said I personally would never accept a single OTA for fear of losing my unlocked bootloader.
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Everyone here has been a great help.. This is my first Android phone and rocks my iPhone in everyway...I was a little nervous when I rooted it and started installing custom mods ie...Google wallet, Google Now. I have been thinking about a ROM but I think I'll wait for JB with TW. I'm sure the Dev's will give the ok for the flash once they know we can keep the unlock and root. Thanks again.
Time to keep reading and learning
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This question may have been asked, when verizon pushes out the Jelly Bean update what will I need to do in order to accept it? I am rooted with google wallet and google now.... Every bit of information I got from here...Everyone here ROCKS......
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I wouldn't worry about Verizon pushing out Jelly Bean until next year.
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
Haha I was actually in the process of rooting/unlocking and after reading this post, I think i'm going to hold off until my buddy here gets his questions answered. Good questions to ask.
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I'm gonna go ahead with unlocking and use the above info to install OTA JB i reckon.
So, If the TF300 forums are indicitive of what we should do, root before JB is THE only way to do root...can NOt be done after JB.
But the unlock bootloader is what I am ignorant on.....still OTA with unlocked bootloader, that is my main concern...
as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
vegandroid said:
as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
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The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
okantomi said:
The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
To the OP
If you unlock you will not receive the OTA update regardless. If you download and flash it won't you brick your device as once unlocked any ASUS builds/updates brick?
If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If I was going to take the ota I would completely wipe/factory reset first just like flashing any other rom.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
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Sorry, I just hit reply to the wrong comment.
sumnerm1 said:
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
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If you want to use the OTA update than my best advice is to stay with the stock firmware, no root and no unlock. OTA updates with rooted devices are like the lottery could work for one user and don't work for another and mostly because after you root the device you will start messing with system filles, you will try various tweaks, etc.
As for the Asus Unlock Tool it seems that is working well on Jelly Bean, at least for the TF300 device.So imo you have this options:
1) Stay stock and without rooting so you will get OTAs just fine ( and have no guarantee that you can root after JB update)
2) Stay stock but root your device and pray that OTA update and Root keeper will work just fine
3) Unlock and root/install a custom rom now then wait until Asus will upload JB firmware on their site (in this case you need to manually install JB but you don't need to worry about rooting because with an unlocked device rooting is working on JB.
PS: To be honest i find this kind of threads a bit pointless because we don't have an ETA for Jelly Bean so maybe when this come out we already have a working root method for JB.
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Why would you not be able to root with JB?
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As long as ASUS releases Source Code and the Full ROM ZIP shortly after the OTA hits the device.
You can Unlock and root now because there will be a JB ROM with Root very soon.
Yes with Unlock and Root you don't get OTA, but you can still flash the Full-ROM ZIP from ASUS as soon as they release it.
And I'm sure there will be a rooted stock ROM not a day after the Full-ROM and Source Code is available.
Thats why I choosed ASUS Tablet!
Hi folks.
I've just bought an Infinity. When booting it for the time, I updated it to Jelly bean. Now I'd like to know how can I root it? Unfortunately the debugfs method does not work anymore. So am I stuck ?
Thanks.
I have the same issue!
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You will have to wait for a new method to come out which may be a while. At this time if you lose root or have not rooted prior to JB you cannot get it back.
slainer68 said:
Hi folks.
I've just bought an Infinity. When booting it for the time, I updated it to Jelly bean. Now I'd like to know how can I root it? Unfortunately the debugfs method does not work anymore. So am I stuck ?
Thanks.
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Yes, you are stuck. You will either have to develop a root method yourself or wait for someone else to do it for you unless you are willing to unlock. If you unlock, you should be able to flash alternate ROMs, etc, the sky's the limit. Be aware though, if you unlock, you will void your warranty and will not be able get OTAs. Flashing ROMs also comes with a certain amount of risk (especially w/out nvflash which you can't get since you upgraded).
Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
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Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
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I think that's the best recommendation to the OP. Cause there's no telling when a native JB root solution will come. Especially since all the Devs are already rooted.
For anyone who has not applied JB yet, this is one thread you'd want to read before applying that update: Last chance to root.
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Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
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Its sad but it is the Best option imo. Its a damn shame that asus ( and others ) have to go so far out of there damn way to stop root.
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i did the voodoo ota rootkeeper. it says I have root but when I try and open titanium backup, it doesn't work. any solutions?
I had an issue with the device at first with es File explorer. Had to install newer beta version of superUser and that fixed it. I have SU 3.1 installed now and all is working fine.
I found a jellybean root exploit in another thread I'll see if I can adapt it to work on the infinity. No guarantees though. I'm sure we'll be able to get this wild beast to submit once more!... eventually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915598
might as well try downgrading if your just going to return it anyway.
dopapifreak34 said:
i did the voodoo ota rootkeeper. it says I have root but when I try and open titanium backup, it doesn't work. any solutions?
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Are you using Superuser or Supersu? SuperSu is better in JB in my experience. Anyway open it and have it forget Titanium. Then open TB again and grant access.
you dont have to wait. you can downgrade to .30 update root it. and upgrade and use vooodoo OTA root keeper to root JB
Downgrade, root, then upgrade to JB again.
[TIP] Downgrade from JB to 0.30 works!
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest
Hello,
Bit confused what to do. I have brand new TF700T ICS 4.0.3 and I think I would benefit with rooted device. But what to do first? Update to JB and then root or root and update? I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212 so I would like to use the NvFlash before I start flashing... Is there any catch?
Please help...
Otas
otas78 said:
Hello,
Bit confused what to do. I have brand new TF700T ICS 4.0.3 and I think I would benefit with rooted device. But what to do first? Update to JB and then root or root and update? I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212 so I would like to use the NvFlash before I start flashing... Is there any catch?
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You first have to decide if you want to void your manufacturer warranty by unlocking the boot loader (so that you can install custom ROMs). You do not need to unlock the boot loader if you only want to root it.
However, once you upgrade to JellyBean, you won't be able to install NVFlash any more, so if you are planning to unlock it in the near future, you should seriously consider doing it now, and then install NVFlash.
If you decide to unlock, there's no problem in rooting it afterwards. If you decide NOT to unlock, but still want to root, you should do so BEFORE you upgrade to JellyBean, as there's currently no way to root a JellyBean installation on the TF700 (if you install JellyBean without root, you'll have to downgrade to ICS to root, and then upgrade to JellyBean again).
As you can see, it all depends on what you want to do with your device - now and in the future. There's no way to know if it'll be possible in the future to install NVFlash on a JB installation, but once you have installed JB, you CANNOT install NVFlash - not even if you roll back to ICS. So you have to decide if you want NVFlash or not, and if so, you need to unlock it while on ICS and proceed from there.
If you want to keep the locked bootloader and warranty: First, root it. Look for the tutorial here in the Forum, it's very easy, should be something like "Root with debugfs".
Then, download OTA Rootkeeper from the Market (Google Play). Use it to protect your root.
Afterwards, you can either try the normal OTA Update (Didn't work for me, too big of a jump), or follow the following tutorial to update from one revision to the next. (So you've gotta update around 4-5 times in total to get to the newest JB revision).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926147
How to update to JB and keep root (Locked Bootloader)
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ZeDroid said:
If you want to keep the locked bootloader and warranty: First, root it. Look for the tutorial here in the Forum, it's very easy, should be something like "Root with debugfs".
Then, download OTA Rootkeeper from the Market (Google Play). Use it to protect your root.
Afterwards, you can either try the normal OTA Update (Didn't work for me, too big of a jump), or follow the following tutorial to update from one revision to the next. (So you've gotta update around 4-5 times in total to get to the newest JB revision).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926147
How to update to JB and keep root (Locked Bootloader)
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So I see.
Option 1) Rooted only and keep warranty - can't flash it.
Option 2) Root and unlock, lost warranty but be able to flash it. For this I need unlock the bootloader. And I would need to unlock to bootloader to install NvFlash, is it right?
What will be your recommendation? Do I need to flash it? The use would be recreational (internet/video/games) and travel laptop.
Otas
I personally didn't flash mine, at the moment I just don't need it. Should be fine for you to, why don't you try root & locked bootloader first?
You can always unlock the bootloader later on, but you can't "relock" it
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ZeDroid said:
I personally didn't flash mine, at the moment I just don't need it. Should be fine for you to, why don't you try root & locked bootloader first?
You can always unlock the bootloader later on, but you can't "relock" it
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The only reason why I would be considering to unlock it NOW is the NvFlash. Because I definitely want to update to JB.
otas78 said:
Hello,
Bit confused what to do.
Otas
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Well you could always just use it for a day or two before you risk blowing it up.
Any manufacturing problems with it?
How familiar with the ins-outs of rooting\flashing are you?
If relatively new read then read some more.
The chances of a brick are low...then again you never know for sure.
Good luck...
So I did rooted using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588 and all went well and I was told that the device is rooted.
Then I installed JB OTA no issues.
But now OTA Rootkeeper is telling me that I'm not rooted??!! What is going on?
otas78 said:
So I did rooted using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588 and all went well and I was told that the device is rooted.
Then I installed JB OTA no issues.
But now OTA Rootkeeper is telling me that I'm not rooted??!! What is going on?
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Did you actually backup your root using OTA Rootkeeper?
Did you protect the root with OTA Rootkeeper? Otherwise you just lost it....
You should be able to downgrade to ICS and root again following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925230
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Did you actually backup your root using OTA Rootkeeper?
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I see, f*** I updated before the I downloaded the OTE Rootkeeper. Any way out of it?
See my post on the first page. And guys, please don't do Full Quotes, we all know what you're replying to
Thank's I saw it later, looking to downgrade now.
So I downgraded already twice, run the OTA Rootkeeper, got the message that SU protected, run the JB update, run the OTA Rootkeeper again and no protected SU available... Where am I doing it wrong?
How exactly are you updating to JB? Per OTA?
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Yes, per OTA
Strange. Did you try the update files from the thread I linked previously? (in my first post) The OTA never worked for me, so I used those.
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Didn't need to because the OTA came on always automatically as soon as I rebooted. So I let it run.
I think I'm doing something wrong with the OTA Rootkeeper because it will not give me option to temp un-root...
Do you have Superuser installed? If not, try to install it from the Market, it will show you if you really got root.
From my perspective it sounds like you don't actually have root or just no application to control root.
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