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[Q]Root Void Warranty?

I am version .29 (i think, how do i tell?) and i want to root.
I don't want to flash new ROMs yet, so I don't think i need an unlocked bootloader. If I only root the tablet, will I permanently void my warranty?
Thanks
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No. As long as you get rid of all the root stuff, no one would be able to tell you were rooted.

sounds good.
Also, how do I tell what version tablet i have? where do i look for .29 vs .26?
Thanks

settings/about tablet and scroll down to build number...you will see a long number and .26 or .29 followed by a long number.
congrats...I'm still having some issues rooting. ota rootkeeper didn't keep my root when I upgraded from .17 to .29...still working on it

Throb1231 said:
settings/about tablet and scroll down to build number...you will see a long number and .26 or .29 followed by a long number.
congrats...I'm still having some issues rooting. ota rootkeeper didn't keep my root when I upgraded from .17 to .29...still working on it
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Something is borked with your system my friend. I've been following your attempts to root. I rooted my system as of today with .17 using sparkys root. It didn't work the first time for whatever ryhme or reason, then after trying it a second time doing it a little differently, it worked. If there is a way for you to do a full wipe/reload and start fresh, I would do that.
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cavsoldier19d said:
Something is borked with your system my friend. I've been following your attempts to root. I rooted my system as of today with .17 using sparkys root. It didn't work the first time for whatever ryhme or reason, then after trying it a second time doing it a little differently, it worked. If there is a way for you to do a full wipe/reload and start fresh, I would do that.
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I thought he had manually updated to .29, in which case you wouldn't be able to restore with rootkeeper.

Rooted my stock .29 300 with sparky's root tool tonight; worked first time flawlessly.

Preparing for Jelly Bean Update

Hey Everyone, I'm coming from a Asus Transformer tf300 , and my device was rooted, and didn't have bootloader unlocked....when receiving the OTA for Jelly Bean, I was under the impression that Using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would make everything smooth and dandy to take the OTA and still be rooted by restoring at after the update.... Well Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper worked but only half way, and what I mean by that is that the device was rooted but root permission was not given so it was pretty much no point in being rooted, and some say it was because an app called Supersu was not installed prior to the update and when the back up was made, so that app + Superuser had to be present and some people obtained their full root that way....But my point for this thread is to figure out before hand what methods we will take on the tf700 so that many wont be stuck without root when it happens.....I never was able to get full root or unroot or do anything, I ended up selling my tf300 and now have a tf700 so just taking precautions cuz I would love Jelly Bean on here but also would love root...... any suggestions?

I think the best way to prepare for Jellybean is to let some others do it first and see how it goes for them. Maybe we'll be fine, maybe we'll need the supersu trick, maybe we'll need something else entirely. At this point, we simply cant say. As such, better to be cautious.
I've been reading some of the 300 threads on the JB update, and it looks like some people are having issues with their custom recoveries as well. Until there's a full understanding of the consequences of updating, I think those who are on anything other than unrooted locked stock should hold off unless they want to play guinea pig.

The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm

MrTonyToca said:
What do you think is more feasible? Stay stock and not root and wait for jelly bean and update to it, then see if a way to root is found for jelly bean? Or root now, and hope there is a way found to carry that root on to Jelly bean eventually? Cuz I know the jelly bean update was very sneaky on the tf300, I didnt even know it was updating until it was already downloaded and ready to be installed, and it only asks a few times before automatically installing it.....so risks are involved in both.....hhmmmmmmm
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I would say root now, use OTA rootkeeper to protect root and that way when you get the JB OTA you can just use OTA rootkeeper to restore root.

swa2k4 said:
The update will likely be posted as a cwm flashable ROM very shortly before or after it is available via ota dont worry you can find it here!
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That's well and good for people who are unlocked, but not for people who are locked and just rooted. I dont see a need to really unlock at this point. I will unlock it when I start deving for it in a few days though

I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.

Alitheia said:
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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Let us know if it works.....There was a way to fix the root permissions that they were sayin in the tf300 forum, but it involved alot of adb shell commands and pushing files, and me not being familiar with adb attempted it but wasn't able to execute all the commands, so even if it doesn't work there would be hope! (for people who are good with adb any way) :highfive:

So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?

Diogenes5 said:
Yes, you need SU and Voodoo working in conjunction after a root to maintain it. I rooted but didn't unlock because the rom scene isn't developed yet. I will be updating to JB as soon as possible and voodoo will hopefully preserve my root (It always did on my tf300 and on my htc amaze).
Any reason to believe it would not?
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Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....

MrTonyToca said:
Yes, because several people including myself, kept root but lost our root permissions when using voodoo......it was later found out to have both root and root permissions saved is to download an app called Supersu, and have that and Superuser and also in superuser make sure in the setting that OTA Restore is checked off in order for it to work.....that method worked for most people.....This only happened with the Jelly Bean OTA, every other time it worked like a charm.....
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Gotcha, thanks for the info. I got confused because I assumed you were using an acronym for "Superuser."

ooonimrodooo said:
So being rooted and unlocked, I will probably have to wait until someone creates a Rom from the jelly bean ota correct?
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Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.

Alitheia said:
Right as being unlocked prevents you from receiving the ota. I don't think you'd have to wait long though. Someone will surely post theirs right away.
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Same situation .. I have my TF700 root, unlock and installed TWRP ... I must wait for a ROM upload here ..

just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?

Alitheia said:
I'm rooted but not unlocked. I'll be using the SuperSU trick to confirm that it works for us. I don't plan on any unlocking until I'm safely updated.
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This is my plan, too, except I'm not planning to unlock the TF700 after JB unless it's the only way to stabilize it, like it was with the TF201 after ICS. The stock ROM with root is fine for me if it is stable.

chucky7910 said:
just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: just wanted to post this link from Asus' infinity facebook page: http://www.gizmocanada.com/2012/08/a...ndroid-os-4-1/
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
No jelly bean yet.
Also at the end of the article it says if you're rooted you won't receive OTA updates? is this true?
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I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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PolishPoet said:
I would think they meant if you are unlocked, rather than rooted.
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You are right PolishPoet, I meant unlocked bootloader not rooted. Once the device is updated on a rooted device, it just unroots it, and you will have to root again.
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Gizmocanada

With all of this in mind...
I'm stock at the moment. Does it make more sense to stay stock until JB then root, or to root and try to keep it through the JB upgrade? My root needs aren't urgent.

So far there's no indication rooting under JB will be easy, so better root your tablet first and follow the SuperSU guidelines..

Pre JB Rules?

Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?

Haha I was actually in the process of rooting/unlocking and after reading this post, I think i'm going to hold off until my buddy here gets his questions answered. Good questions to ask.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803343
I'm gonna go ahead with unlocking and use the above info to install OTA JB i reckon.

So, If the TF300 forums are indicitive of what we should do, root before JB is THE only way to do root...can NOt be done after JB.
But the unlock bootloader is what I am ignorant on.....still OTA with unlocked bootloader, that is my main concern...

as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader

vegandroid said:
as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
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The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.

okantomi said:
The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.

To the OP
If you unlock you will not receive the OTA update regardless. If you download and flash it won't you brick your device as once unlocked any ASUS builds/updates brick?

If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?

wpbear said:
If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If I was going to take the ota I would completely wipe/factory reset first just like flashing any other rom.

vegandroid said:
i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
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Sorry, I just hit reply to the wrong comment.

sumnerm1 said:
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
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If you want to use the OTA update than my best advice is to stay with the stock firmware, no root and no unlock. OTA updates with rooted devices are like the lottery could work for one user and don't work for another and mostly because after you root the device you will start messing with system filles, you will try various tweaks, etc.
As for the Asus Unlock Tool it seems that is working well on Jelly Bean, at least for the TF300 device.So imo you have this options:
1) Stay stock and without rooting so you will get OTAs just fine ( and have no guarantee that you can root after JB update)
2) Stay stock but root your device and pray that OTA update and Root keeper will work just fine
3) Unlock and root/install a custom rom now then wait until Asus will upload JB firmware on their site (in this case you need to manually install JB but you don't need to worry about rooting because with an unlocked device rooting is working on JB.
PS: To be honest i find this kind of threads a bit pointless because we don't have an ETA for Jelly Bean so maybe when this come out we already have a working root method for JB.
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Why would you not be able to root with JB?
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As long as ASUS releases Source Code and the Full ROM ZIP shortly after the OTA hits the device.
You can Unlock and root now because there will be a JB ROM with Root very soon.
Yes with Unlock and Root you don't get OTA, but you can still flash the Full-ROM ZIP from ASUS as soon as they release it.
And I'm sure there will be a rooted stock ROM not a day after the Full-ROM and Source Code is available.
Thats why I choosed ASUS Tablet!

Unlock bootloader for OTA Jelly Bean update

Hello all. I was just wondeirng if there is a way to unlock the bootloader for an OTA JB update. I checked Asus website but only saw one for ICS. Is this something will come out in due time? I eventually want to root, but figure this is the first step.
Thanks,
Mike

It works for JB as well, I did it.

its correct. i unlocked my JB WW version with the ICS unlocker

Thank you both for the info. So, is it possible to root the OTA JB, or do I have to figure out how to downgrade it and follow one of the other methods?
Thanks again,
Mike

parallon said:
Thank you both for the info. So, is it possible to root the OTA JB, or do I have to figure out how to downgrade it and follow one of the other methods?
Thanks again,
Mike
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You can unlock the bootloader and follow step 3 of this guide if you want root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
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parallon said:
Hello all. I was just wondeirng if there is a way to unlock the bootloader for an OTA JB update. I checked Asus website but only saw one for ICS. Is this something will come out in due time? I eventually want to root, but figure this is the first step.
Thanks,
Mike
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There is No Reason to Unlock the bootloader for an OTA JB Update for the TF300T. You can Download the Firmware at ASUS its Available for some SKU's
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_TF300T/#download
Warning Unlocking the bootloader will Void your Warranty.
If you Really want to Unlock the bootloader ASUS has an App at the link above also in the Downloads Section that will allow you to do that.Once its Unlocked it can Not be Locked again.
When you run this App it Cuts Off your OTA and records your Serial Number and sends it to ASUS.
Also if you would like to Root the TF300T it is very easy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689193
You Must Root the TF300T Before any Upgrade to Jellybean. You can Protect your Root with the OTA Rootkeeper App.and Restore it after the Upgrade to Jellybean.
Rooting the TF300T will also Void your Warranty with ASUS but it is Possible to Unroot if you run into a concern were you would need to use your Warranty.

@funnel71 - Thanks for the info. I will look into it tonight.
@Izzyb914 - The problem is that I have already accepted the OTA JB and I am still locked and unrooted.

Izzyb914 said:
Also if you would like to Root the TF300T it is very easy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689193
You Must Root the TF300T Before any Upgrade to Jellybean. You can Protect your Root with the OTA Rootkeeper App.and Restore it after the Upgrade to Jellybean.
Rooting the TF300T will also Void your Warranty with ASUS but it is Possible to Unroot if you run into a concern were you would need to use your Warranty.
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I, as well as several others, have lost their root even with OTA Rootkeeper saved and not able to get it back. For those that have JB and cannot restore root, Bootloader unlock is the only possible root method at this time.

RangerLG said:
I, as well as several others, have lost their root even with OTA Rootkeeper saved and not able to get it back. For those that have JB and cannot restore root, Bootloader unlock is the only possible root method at this time.
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If you have SuperSu Installed it Works with OTA Rootkeeper. It worked Perfect for ME !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840504

So, I went to unlock the bootloader, and I have read a lot of posts about there being an .apk file on the Asus website. The file I downloaded was UnLock_Device_App_V7.zip. I opened it and did not find an .apk file anywhere, so how do I run this tool?
Thanks,
Mike

parallon said:
So, I went to unlock the bootloader, and I have read a lot of posts about there being an .apk file on the Asus website. The file I downloaded was UnLock_Device_App_V7.zip. I opened it and did not find an .apk file anywhere, so how do I run this tool?
Thanks,
Mike
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R you sure? coz I downloaded it and it works fine. Did you download it directly from tf300? Use chrome to download it and give it another try.

I just now downloaded from Asus again to be sure. It is unlock device app v7 apk. They don't even zip it.
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Ahh, I just downloaded to my laptop. I will give that a try when I get home.
Thanks!
Mike

funnel71 said:
You can unlock the bootloader and follow step 3 of this guide if you want root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
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Somebody tested this yet?
Because i got the same problem, I have OTA JB and want this Rom, but I'm not sure what to do, because in every tutorial how to install cwm it says I have to unlock Bootloader, but on the Asus page it says the Bootloader Unlocker App is only ICS...
So would be pretty nice if somebody could help me...
Thx from Switzerland

-angel* said:
Somebody tested this yet?
Because i got the same problem, I have OTA JB and want this Rom, but I'm not sure what to do, because in every tutorial how to install cwm it says I have to unlock Bootloader, but on the Asus page it says the Bootloader Unlocker App is only ICS...
So would be pretty nice if somebody could help me...
Thx from Switzerland
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I have tested this. I was on jb when I unlocked with that tool, and I also installed cwm touch recovery and rooted using that method.
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Rooting Newest Firmware Update?

Hey all, just got my TF700 on Friday. So stoked.
I am about to root my tablet, but I want to make sure the current tools with work (sparkym3 and Debugfs) with the newest update. I would rather root the latest release than root what I have and use Voodoo. I have had issues doing that in the past.
My current firmware is IML74K.US_epad-9-4-5.26-20120720
How many update as I away from current? Will the current tools work with the most recent updates? Which method do you guys recommend?
Thanks!

I have not been able to get those two methods to work for me on the newest update. I think I am a rare exception, most seem to have success. I have even returned a tablet becuase of defect and the second would not root either. It wasnt a big deal because i knew i was going to unlock the bootloader and then i could install a custom recovery and rom and achieve root that way. If you are planning on unlocking I suggest you do a little more research in the NVFlash page because if you update from your current firmware that will no longer be an option. Just my 2 cents

(Imo) i would just root what you have now and use voodoo. Checkout the nvflash thread while your at it. ( doesn't work with .30 update, i wish i had noticed that before i upgraded to .30 )
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I know it was mentioned but just for good measure... If you plan on unlocking at all make sure you do it before upgrading to .30 so that you can get nvflash setup for your device.
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Is .30 the next update? How many update am I away from current?
I have some thinking to do, I wasn't planning on unlocking (at least until CM and AOKP officially support the TF700) but if NvFlash won't work on any other updates I may need to rethink.

And to be honest, I don't really see the purpose in unlocking. I ROMed my TF101 but ASUS does such a good job of only altering AOSP with small (and beneficial) changes I may just leave my Infinity as is. Especially if I have to stick with the shipped firmware and once I update NvFlash won't work. I guess I can always just flash ROMs without NvFlash though...
But my two questions above still stand.
One more question as this is the first device I have owned that had NvFlash available. What is the benefit of having NvFlash vs just CWM? Just protection in case I do something really stupid?
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You are one update away from the latest which is .30. (soon to be two) The debugfs root method will root you.
you should check out my thread on root and jellybean: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908304
Nvflash allows you to flash anything even if the bootloader is corrupted or prevents it, it also allows you to downgrade when the bootloader prevents it e.g. .30 to .26. it is also required to flash custom bootloaders which is useful if someone develops a dual-boot bootloader. You can even relock and reunlock your bootloader with nvflash. If you don't plan on using non-stock fw though, stay locked so that you can get your updates and support.

Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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I_EAT_BABIES said:
Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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If you have .26 and are going to unlock, you may as well create your nvflash files. It isn't so much as flashing nvflash. Nvflash is already hardcoded in the tegra chip. You would just be creating the encrypted files needed to utilize it on your device. You save these in triplicate in case the worst happens. Unlocking is necessary for generating the nvflash files, but it voids your warranty and leaves you unable to recieve OTAs (you can still update manually using methods listed in the development forums).
I'm not explicitly recommending that you unlock, but if you do, it's best to do it on the .26 update, so you can get those nvflash files from your device.

So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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you don't install nvflash. you use it to interface with the device's apx mode.
as for the official firmwares, you can still install those even if you are unlocked. you just have to do it manually.

Yup, you can just download the firmware zip from asus's website:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#download
Unzip it once(it'l be another zip) and flash that in TWRP. (not sure if it works in cwm. I am biased but I definately recommend twrp:angel Make sure you uncheck flash recovery. reinstall recovery using fastboot because the update deletes it.

I_EAT_BABIES said:
So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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No, you need to unlock to take a bootloader backup, which you will not able to take OTA Jelly Been, however, you can download the new Jelly Bean from Asus website and manually flash it.

OK I feel like I understand now. There really aren't any downsides to setting up NvFlash (Asus warranty not an issue, I have Best Buy's super program where I can return the tablet even if I just scratch the screen if I want to).
My initial impression was that if I unlocked I would not be able to update any stock firmware period, and that if I set up NvFlash I could not move from .26.
If I understand correctly I just have to be on .26 to set up NvFlash, and can manually install official Asus firmware after unlocking.
Thanks for the help all! I am not new to flashing ROMs etc. but have never had the ability to use NvFlash.
Have a great night all!