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[Q] Rooted, 4.4.3 = Error?

Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!

CIarkness said:
Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!
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Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.

charesa39 said:
Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.
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Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.

CIarkness said:
Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.
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No worries. :good: You'd be surprised how many times I've done a search and realized there were plenty of other people that had been in the same exact type of sticky situation I had been in at the time. You can definitely learn a lot from the stickies. That's how I learned all the basics about ADB and Fastboot, which is why I prefer to flash everything manually instead of using toolkits. There are some pretty knowledgeable people roaming these here forums.
Welcome to XDA!

Just flash it as a flashable zip in recovery (found in development forum by vomer)
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Rooting question

Hey there!
I was wondering if rooting via towelroot would affect OTA updates? Someone told me you don't get OTA if the system files, bootloader or kernel have been changed. I am completely on stock now. Will apps like Droidwall, Titanium Backup or Greenify make any changes to the system files, hence rendering my phone not eligible for OTA?
Thanks

Read the OTA helpdesk thread about OTA. Link in my signature. Those apps should be fine but you should root properly and use a custom recovery of you're going to be rooted and forget about OTAs.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I agree! Being rooted without a custom recovery and/or not knowing how to use adb/fastboot is almost asking for trouble.

@rootSU gave you the best info.
You have a Nexus. You can flash stock in minutes when you need to do an ota. Or forget that and flash the update through fastboot. I've never taken an OTA on any device.

Thanks for the replies folks. I just dont feel like unlocking my bootloader at this very moment since there's stuff to backup and I am at the peak of my laziness ( and also very busy to do stuff with my phone)
Edit: Yeah, I sideloaded the 4.4.4 update. Can I sideload any update like this in the future even if I don't receive automatic updates? (i.e doesn't sideload verify that all original files are intact?)

Probably best avoid root in that case then.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Nice. You relax and we'll figure it out? That's not how XDA works my friend. Ask for help, put some effort in after you get answers. That's how it works.
I'd leave the phone as is and call it a day.

The question has been answered and the thread is going the wrong direction, so I'm going to stop it here.
@Moonheart All the info about OTA's are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
It outlines what you need to do and how to prepare your phone for updates.
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[Q] OTA system update 2 days ago?

I'm running KitKat 4.4.2 rooted. Two days ago, Verizon started trying very aggressively to push a system update onto my phone, and they don't say what it is. Does anyone know what they're trying to force into my phone? I do not want to lose root.
Also, is there any way to stop the aggressive update prompts? If I don't manually set a time to be prompted again, it will push the update without my consent. Is there an Xposed Framework module that can help?

permutations said:
I'm running KitKat 4.4.2 rooted. Two days ago, Verizon started trying very aggressively to push a system update onto my phone, and they don't say what it is. Does anyone know what they're trying to force into my phone? I do not want to lose root...
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It's this (VZW pdf-file). Also see here. Even if you downloaded the OTA, the installation would fail, because your device is rooted.
permutations said:
Also, is there any way to stop the aggressive update prompts? If I don't manually set a time to be prompted again, it will push the update without my consent
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See here. Posts # 4 and #8

Please post your questions in the question and answer section
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Please post your questions in the question and answer section
Thread moved
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Is it in the right place now? I get confused about where to post here, sorry.
I can see why they updated the messaging app. It was completely unusable. Is it still KitKat 4.4.2?
Most importantly, if I were to install it, would I still be able to root using the towelroot app?

Not_A_Dev said:
See here. Posts # 4 and #8
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I have Titanium Backup (Pro), but I don't see the update app anywhere on my phone. I'll post my question in the other thread. Thanks for the link.

permutations said:
Is it in the right place now? I get confused about where to post here, sorry.
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Yes, I moved it to the Q&A section.
As a good rule. If you are asking a QUESTION and you want an ANSWER post it in the QUESTION and ANSWER section.

Clueless
Hi, I have the Droid Razr Maxx HD xt926 as well and have never done anything with android before in terms of software modification. I first learned how to root my phone and unlock the bootloader in June via the towelroot exploit. I've been wandering around this website wondering how to get this ota update without losing root. I've seen some posts regarding flashing an fxz file, but have also had a hard time understanding what it all means. I have not installed a custom ROM (yet), but when I try to take the ota, it fails because I am obviously rooted. What do I do from this point out? Do I still need to flash a stock image file? Should I just not take the update/is it worth it?

axcelgo said:
Hi, I have the Droid Razr Maxx HD xt926 as well and have never done anything with android before in terms of software modification. I first learned how to root my phone and unlock the bootloader in June via the towelroot exploit. I've been wandering around this website wondering how to get this ota update without losing root. I've seen some posts regarding flashing an fxz file, but have also had a hard time understanding what it all means. I have not installed a custom ROM (yet), but when I try to take the ota, it fails because I am obviously rooted. What do I do from this point out? Do I still need to flash a stock image file? Should I just not take the update/is it worth it?
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If you decide to install a custom ROM, you won't have to waste another minute pondering the OTA. If you decide to stay on stock, and want to get VZWs latest firmware on your device, I strongly suggest that you triple-read and follow the instructions in this thread to the T. You will then not have to worry about another OTA nag, because this is the last Moto/VZW update for the XT926.

Okay thanks. I saw that thread on the general forum, but wasn't to sure if I should proceed. I'm going to follow the directions on the original post as I had been planning to do, but was too worried about any consequences. I will report back if I have any problems, given that I can follow instructions. I'll probably just go ahead and try to install the most recent stable release of CM when done. Fingers crossed.

New update. NJ4 4.4.4

I'm currently on NI1, and I just had a update notice. It's about 392mb in size. Didn't see anything about any updates so figured I'd post.

Did you take the update? Did it install? If so what is the firmware listed as?
Since it is 392mb I would assume it is an update, rather than a full version increment? Probably still 4.4.2 Let is know

It's almost done downloading now at 81%. I'll post back with a version once installed.

Are you rooted right now? If so it may not install, or try and fail. If you are rooted immediately after it finishes downloading you can copy the update file to your sdcard/external sdcard and upload it to a file sharing site. If it is in fact a newer version of firmware you could make devs happy. If you need to know how/where the update is located I can help you out
BEFORE IT INSTALLS open up a file browser (if rooted possibly) and navigate to \cache\fota\2400258.cfg. Should be the name or something similar. Long press on it and choose copy. Then navigate to you sdcard and paste it where you can find it. Then upload it to a sharing site.

Not rooted on this S4. The update went through and it was updated to NJ1 4.4.4

dankhar said:
Not rooted on this S4. The update went through and it was updated to NJ1 4.4.4
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Thanks, hopefully SOMEONE will pull it soon.

Yeah. Been having random issues with my phone since the previous. All seems to be good now. The update does add a few new programa. Nothing worth using except maybe keeper. But so far so good.
Phones definitely a lot snappier now.!

I would love to see a screenshot of the about to confirm.

There you go.

Update failed on my rooted device
I just tried it, It failed to update and I lost root.

Here is a screen of the few apps it put on once completed. It also added a kids mode app.

If ANYBODY is rooted it most likely WILL FAIL. It is only 300+ MB sobitbis not a complete ROM and most like just has mostly PATCH files inside. I would recommend users that are rooted WAIT until a dev can do something with it, and check it out. Each update has locked our phones down harder.
On that note if ANYONE is rooted and downloads it, do NOT install it. But go to the location I listed above to pull the file from the phone and upload it to a sharing site. Then a dev can look into it first and incorporate it for our rooted phones WITHOUT updating the bootloader

After looking around the forums it looks like Samsung has pushed a few updates to phones ( S4 getting 4.4.4, S3 4.4.2 patch files, and the Note has gotten an update as well). I think these updates are probably going to be the final updates before they phase out old devices and possibly start porting 5.0 on our device (S4). I really wish there wasn't new At&t bloat, but hopefully these are new services that phase out all the old outdated bloat At&t had in the past :good: also to each his own I just never use those apps.
Thanks for posting this, I would've enjoyed this if I hadn't already flashed Goldenfinger and nandroided all my apps over... to lazy to use Safestrap again.
DON'T INSTALL IF YOU'RE ROOTED!

Nice. Wasn't doubting the OP. I see att has updated their support page to reflect the NJ4 update.

RockRatt said:
Are you rooted right now? If so it may not install, or try and fail. If you are rooted immediately after it finishes downloading you can copy the update file to your sdcard/external sdcard and upload it to a file sharing site. If it is in fact a newer version of firmware you could make devs happy. If you need to know how/where the update is located I can help you out
BEFORE IT INSTALLS open up a file browser (if rooted possibly) and navigate to \cache\fota\2400258.cfg. Should be the name or something similar. Long press on it and choose copy. Then navigate to you sdcard and paste it where you can find it. Then upload it to a sharing site.
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If no one else does, I will try when I get to work tomorrow. We have numerous S4's that people traded in for the S5. I can see if I am able to root one and do the update using your instructions. If not I can check to see if onw of our Kiosks can allow me to pull the update. Not sure if they have that one yet for self updating. Will let you know in the AM.

dankhar said:
If no one else does, I will try when I get to work tomorrow. We have numerous S4's that people traded in for the S5. I can see if I am able to root one and do the update using your instructions. If not I can check to see if onw of our Kiosks can allow me to pull the update. Not sure if they have that one yet for self updating. Will let you know in the AM.
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Thanks. Hopefully a dev can create a ROM for us all

Rooted S4
RockRatt said:
Thanks. Hopefully a dev can create a ROM for us all
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Wish I had read this before. I am rooted so it said install interrupted after download. So do I have to unroot and return to stock? I am on NI1 4.4.2. Maybe you or someone can get copy for us to install it by. Let us know what to do if rooted to get the OTA. Thanks

Downloading now. I'll post when done. Rolled back to NB1 before updating so this is a 489MB download.

guut13 said:
Downloading now. I'll post when done. Rolled back to NB1 before updating so this is a 489MB download.
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Guess I will roll back to NB1 also Friday. Got NB1 downloading now. Do I need to wipe or Anything before I flash file in Odin 3.09????

Urgent problem with ota update 5.0

HI was downloading the new update 5.0 but it stopped and now the tablet says me "your system is updated" but with the 6.0.1.I can't restart the download now,what i have to do???

Same thing happened to me. Don't know why yet.

Same here. Where are you from?

Nvidia might have pulled it to fix something wait patiently it will come.

I had a similar problem as well. I got the notification to download the update, and when I clicked on the "Download" button in the notification, it did nothing. When I went into my settings and opened the OTA updater, it kept telling me that "Your system is up to date," even after repeatedly pressing the "Check Now" button, selecting "Clear data," rebooting, and messing with the advanced settings. I hope they fix this soon, I was really excited about this update!

Exact same issue here.

If you haven't root/twrp etc:
Download from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/5-0-update-nougat-incoming-t3553612/page2 (there are two version - k1 & standard).
Paste it to internal memory, boot into recovery and apply update from zip.

Just wait a little. That's what NVIDIA calls "staggered rollout".

Just wanted to update and say that I got my OTA this morning and will apply it later this afternoon. Guess, just as suggested earlier, they staggered them. It's strange though that they actually pulled it back, but then again it might have been an issue with it.

if you have "nougat launcher apk" just delete it.

Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?

My 2 cents: if the root is confirmed to work, there is no "process" per se.
D/L the root zip to the tablet, boot into recovery, flash that zip and reboot into system.
Should be within 2-3 min the whole thing.

Wayno-san said:
Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?
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Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/

pucka said:
Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/
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Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.

Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.
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Yes you can just apply the update and there's no need to flash stock first. If you want to flash TWRP I would recommend getting root first by sideloading (like in the guide) and then using the TWRP app to flash TWRP.
I'm now rooted again with TWRP as custom recovery.