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Searched but couldn't find answer to my exact question. I've rooted/unlocked my Nexus S but I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM. I've downloaded a few possibilities though
However, let's say I decide to stay on stock, the next update that comes out 2.3.5, can I just flash that like I used to before I flashed a new recovery (and renamed the original recovery file) or would I have to revert to the original recovery? If the latter, how would I do this?
---I'm finding fewer compelling reasons for custom ROMs on the great Nexus S, its stock after all! I have no reason to overclock and I'm not into custom themes. However, on my MT4G (Glacier) there were many compelling reasons to root and flash a custom ROM. I now have a close to stock experience, got rid of the bloatware, and I get 2 days of battery life with RoyalGinger 2.1.
Having said that, I'm still itching to flash a few different ROMs on the NS and compare. Why, because I can now.
fionalindberg said:
Searched but couldn't find answer to my exact question. I've rooted/unlocked my Nexus S but I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM. I've downloaded a few possibilities though
However, let's say I decide to stay on stock, the next update that comes out 2.3.5, can I just flash that like I used to before I flashed a new recovery (and renamed the original recovery file) or would I have to revert to the original recovery? If the latter, how would I do this?
---I'm finding fewer compelling reasons for custom ROMs on the great Nexus S, its stock after all! I have no reason to overclock and I'm not into custom themes. However, on my MT4G (Glacier) there were many compelling reasons to root and flash a custom ROM. I now have a close to stock experience, got rid of the bloatware, and I get 2 days of battery life with RoyalGinger 2.1.
Having said that, I'm still itching to flash a few different ROMs on the NS and compare. Why, because I can now.
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You can flash signed updates without any issue with CWM or the stock recovery.
However, if you flash a new kernel / boot partition the incremental updates will fail the assert checks. The same goes for themes / modified system files. If the update does an assert on those files to patch them it will fail and not flash.
If you are running a fully stock rom, unlocked with su added on though you won't have any troubles.
I too am using a mytouch 4G and thinking about getting the nexus s just looking at the roms and themes I had royal ginger 2.1 and the battery is amazing easily go 16 hours with heavy usage is there any roms here similar to that. Also I do not see any sense 3.0 like roms maybe I missed it but when you install a custom rom does the Nfc chip still work with out any problems even though I have not seen many places in N.Y.C using it or just maybe haven't noticed. *****Edit: sorry wrong side meant to post of Tmobile nexus s******
Hello,
Ever since the latest update from HTC to Desire S I have been thinking about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom a ROM into my Desire S. I have been reading in this forum to get information if its possible after the last update and also if it would be worth it. It would seem that the easiest way is to unlock the bootloader with HTCdev.com and then continue with the backup and flashing of a new ROM. Can anyone confirm this method?
I've of course heard the arguments that the custom ROMs use less battery and are more stable but when I read through the forum I always manage to find people having problems with connectivity and battery life, even in the latest CyanogenMod ROMs. This makes me a bit hesitant to make the step into a life of custom ROMs since I dont want to get there and realising that my original phone worked better. So can someone confirm that they custom ROMs actually are better in any of the following critera:
- Stability
- Speed
- Battery efficiency
Secondly I would like some tips about good ROMs for the Desire S. Of what I've managed to find out CynaogenMod seems like a good choice. MIUI seems to look to much like iOS for my taste. And I'm not sure that I want or need a Sense ROM, I am currently having a hard time figuring out why sense is something I should use. How stable are the latest Sense 3.5 ROMs vs. CynaogenMod?
I will be very grateful for any thoughts and tips, especially if you are a noob like me. I have only ever jailbroken an iPhone 3G and that process was extremely easy and seems to differ quite a bit from unlocking, rooting and flashing an Android phone.
Thanks,
Andreas
edit: Is there any big difference between the nightly build and the "stable" build of CynaogenMod?
thebiffman said:
Hello,
Ever since the latest update from HTC to Desire S I have been thinking about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom a ROM into my Desire S. I have been reading in this forum to get information if its possible after the last update and also if it would be worth it. It would seem that the easiest way is to unlock the bootloader with HTCdev.com and then continue with the backup and flashing of a new ROM. Can anyone confirm this method?
I've of course heard the arguments that the custom ROMs use less battery and are more stable but when I read through the forum I always manage to find people having problems with connectivity and battery life, even in the latest CyanogenMod ROMs. This makes me a bit hesitant to make the step into a life of custom ROMs since I dont want to get there and realising that my original phone worked better. So can someone confirm that they custom ROMs actually are better in any of the following critera:
- Stability
- Speed
- Battery efficiency
Secondly I would like some tips about good ROMs for the Desire S. Of what I've managed to find out CynaogenMod seems like a good choice. MIUI seems to look to much like iOS for my taste. And I'm not sure that I want or need a Sense ROM, I am currently having a hard time figuring out why sense is something I should use. How stable are the latest Sense 3.5 ROMs vs. CynaogenMod?
I will be very grateful for any thoughts and tips, especially if you are a noob like me. I have only ever jailbroken an iPhone 3G and that process was extremely easy and seems to differ quite a bit from unlocking, rooting and flashing an Android phone.
Thanks,
Andreas
edit: Is there any big difference between the nightly build and the "stable" build of CynaogenMod?
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The best advice I can give you is, try it yourself
After unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, you can backup your current rom, to revert back to it whenever you want.
Most (if not even all) custom roms are faster and have a lighter battery consumption then the stock. The stability depends on how "fresh" a rom is. But all 3 creteria are not carved in stone, battery drain is often deppending on which user you are. As poweruser you won't see much difference, cause the battery cosumption advantage is at idle.
Stability is in most common more or less only depending on the rom, but if you use root apps in beta or alpha state there also can be freezes or reboots.
When it comes to speed, the question is, do you want to overclock it or maybe underclock,...
You see there are many possibilities^^
I personaly like cyanogen most, it's fast, stable and has no bloat, but it's not as eyecandy as sense and the standard apps are unfortunatly not as handy as the sense ones, but there are many replacments at the market^^
The difference between Stable and nightly is that the stable release is tested, the nightly rolls out almost every day and is build by an bot. They are released after building it, the tests for them are made by people like me who want to have the latest source with latest features^^
Regards
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Maybe this [GUIDE] Complete tutorial for beginners... and this [GUIDE] Maximum Battery - Maximizing your battery life with CM7 ROM could be interesting for you, also take a look at the [INDEX][02 NOV 11] ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/RADIOS/TWEAKS/GUIDES/etc thread.
Have to agree with Tectas there... there is no perfect ROM. If there was, everybody would be using the same ROM and there wouldn't be so many different ROMs out there. Your personal opinion about a ROM will bias you towards it eventually, but to get to that stage you have to try out a couple of different platforms to allow you to make a mental picture of what you want in a ROM and which ROMs give you that...
If you want suggestions, then you should try out at least 5 categories of ROMs:
1. AOSP : Stock gingerbread. Vanilla UI. No bells and whistles, just the OS the way google built it.
2. CyanogenMod. No introductions required here. Google is your friend. (And YouTube)
3. MIUI (its looks very different from both the other builds, but you can skin it to death and it has a pretty big fan community behind it). Minus all the bloatware, fast and good battery life...and possibly the best stock music player of the lot - except maybe the Sense 3.5 player with beats audio(untouched).
Again, personal tastes - apples and oranges.
4. Sense 3 Official ported ROMs : Most popular ones currently are by Lowveld and Proxuser, tweaked to perfection. Stock pre-rooted ROMs are also available, but then there's nothing custom about them. Excellent lockscreen, beautiful animations and transitions, smooth UI and groundbreaking social network integration throughout the OS. The most functional, bug free and battery friendly one is Hyperion. (personal opinion). Added bonus is that the customer support is awesome!! (general opinion)
5. Sense 3.5 Official ported ROMs : The latest addition to our phone, skimmed off the newer HTC devices like the Sensation XL (aka Runnymede) and Bliss. These are the best looking (subjective) and have amazing functionality and built in widgets. The most notable here, with absolutely no issues at all is the Endymion ROM, by lowveld. Proxuser also has a Runny port for the Desire S, but there are unresolved issues on that one. Prox is a great developer and i'm sure he'll come around to solving them soon.
Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI, Cyanogen. In the Sense corner, are the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
You'll have to try them out on your own to see what tickles you in the right way...
DISCLAIMER: I am human. I have opinions. They may be wrong.
I have answered this question at length for the benefit of those looking for opinions, and speaking the universal truth is beyond my capabilities. So please don't be offended by any comments about any ROMs above. In their own little way, each is a little better than the other. It's called choice. We all have it... (Well, at least the ROOTED ones!! )
EDIT: Info corrected. Thanks to Tectas.
enigmaamit said:
Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI. In the Sense corner, are CyanogenMod, and the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
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Sry, but cyanogen got nothing to do with sense, it's pure aosp
And why someone uses it, cause it's damn fast and the first official place to get updates or are there any sense roms with gingerbread 2.3.7 ?
And you can also set the hell out of it.
Ah and btw miui is based on cyanogen
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
Tectas said:
Sry, but cyanogen got nothing to do with sense, it's pure aosp
And why someone uses it, cause it's damn fast and the first official place to get updates or are there any sense roms with gingerbread 2.3.7 ?
And you can also set the hell out of it.
Ah and btw miui is based on cyanogen
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
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Thank you Tectas. Post edited.
Like i said. Opinions... i could be wrong.
enigmaamit said:
Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI, Cyanogen. In the Sense corner, are the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.
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Because HTC have the best build quality and they're damn sexy
Thanks all for the answers. I have now tried to flash a custom ROM, the stable version of CynaogenMod to be more precise.
I say "tried" since it didnt work. I managed to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com. I also managed to install Clockworkmod and root the phone. And made a backup. And it all worked. But when I installed the ROM I got stuck on the HTC logo. So I restored the backup. And it worked.
So Im happy that the phone works but Im irritated that I couldn't install the ROM. I read something about HTCDev not unlocking kernel, only system partition, can that be the case? I will just make a list of all the steps I have taken and maybe someone can help me figure out what I did wrong =)
1. Unlock bootloader with HTCDev. It says unlocked. I still have HBOOT 2.00.0002. Is that a problem?
2. Used fastboot to install ClockworkMod. Worked great.
3. Used ClockworkMod recovery to install SuperUser I believe its called. The icon showed up in the apps drawer.
4. Used ClockworkMod "install zip from sd card" to install the CynaogenMod zip. Like described on CynMods wiki. No error that I remember.
5. Reboot and stuck on HTC logo. Does not show up when using "adb devices" and charging light does not light up when connecting the phone to the charger.
6. Press and hold Volume up + Volume Down + Power to reboot/shutdown phone and pulled battery when it went black.
7. Power down + Power to boot into recovery. Restore backup.
8. Rooted again since backup was taken before root. Superuser is back in the app drawer.
9. Wut should I dooo? =)
Thanks for any help. Its hard to find the right answers sometimes even using google and forums search.
edit: HTC seems to make pretty solid and affordable phones. With a UI thats at least okey. Thats why I bought it =) But Im a tech guy and likes to try new things (and also hates that skins does not work on latest Desire S update) so now Im venturing into the dark lands of custom ROMs... =))
When toy flash a new ROM you have to wipe data and cache. Especially when the ROM is as different as the cyanogen from the previous one
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.
This is the text I followed:
"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.
Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.
Select Install zip from sdcard.
Select Choose zip from sdcard.
Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."
It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.
Dalvik is the virtual machine where the Android apps run in.
Ok, damn. Sry I have no experience with the the htcdev unlocking procedure, I used xtc-clip, cause when I got mine there even were no possibility to unlock with revolutionary^^ Maybe try revolutionary or a custom sense ROM, but without the advantage of a custom kernel your experience could be the half.
Edit: I'm just wondering, cause only system can't be true, recovery has also it own partition.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
The revolutionary method is not viable for me since I have HBOOT 2.<something> from the latest Desire S update. I tried a method from another trhead about EVO that was supposed to make flashing work after unlocking with HTCDev but with the same result: just showing the HTC logo. I am now restoring my backup again.
And I dont really know if I should clear dalvik cache since the guides dont mention that.
The tip I tried was in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17219728&postcount=292
You can downgrade your hboot to use revolutionary, it works with htcdev unlocked, the thread is also somewhere here.
You can try to wipe Dalvik cache, but a cache wipe should also include that.
Edit: The downgrade guide is at the index thread i linked before
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
Tectas said:
You can downgrade your hboot to use revolutionary, it works with htcdev unlocked, the thread is also somewhere here.
You can try to wipe Dalvik cache, but a cache wipe should also include that.
Edit: The downgrade guide is at the index thread i linked before
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
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May have to try that out, wouldn't feel right to give up this fast. Have a good backup ready Found the thread. Will check it out.
Thanks =)
edit: For anyone finding this thread with similar problems, the following thread is trying to figure it out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330400&page=3
from what i read on the forum it seems that those with htc-dev unlock are having problems with flashing custom roms.
THIS might help
HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary ?
I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.
This is the text I followed:
"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.
Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.
Select Install zip from sdcard.
Select Choose zip from sdcard.
Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."
It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.
Your Device Still S-On and you have to Get S-Off Procedure because HTCDev.com just unlock boot loader i believe
Edit Take A Look
Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
i hope this helps You
Hello everyone,
What exactly does Clean Rom do? How is it different from what comes with the phone stock? Will Clean Rom mess with the updates that are pushed to our phones? Any big differences between layout?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just not familiar with modifying my phone.
Must read more. Spend as much time as you can reading in the dev section. Clean ROM removes all of the ATT bloat and adds functionality like the FM radio and remapping the 3 dot menu button that takes up screen real-estate to the recent apps softkey. The recent apps can be accessed by holding down the home button, like we're familiar with. It also has performance and battery tweaks (says so in the changelog, haven't been using it long enough to notice). I flashed it the day before yesterday and I'm liking it.
Sent from my HTC One X
Clean Rom doesn't use profane language, think of it as the Will Smith of Roms...
Sent from my HOX running WCX
Did you bother to go to the Development forum, and read the CleanROM threads? They very well describe the features of each version of CleanROM.
You don't ever want to install an OTA update once on a custom ROM. It won't be compatible. Either it won't install, or it will remove root, or it will totally bork the system. The devs typically keep their ROM updated to the newest firmware base, and often long before the OTAs go out. So there is virtually never a benefit to updating via OTA (even if it did work).
Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
To the OP, if you want to flash custom, just do it. Spend a few days on Clean, try out Smokin's ROM, too. Just find something you like. Worst that can happen is you RUU back to stock.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
SoberGuy said:
Most custom ROMs prevent you from even getting an update pushed in the first place. Kind of a non-issue there.
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Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
redpoint73 said:
Depends on the device, and I believe the carrier (and maybe the custom ROM as you mentioned). I've gotten OTA notification, and even able to download OTA (didn't install it, just to see if it would actually download . . . some have said custom ROMs will prevent that too) on 2 previous HTC devices on custom ROMs. But one was a Canada Bell phone used on AT&T, and the other was the WiFi-only Flyer tablet. So it may be that AT&T somehow directly blocks OTA to rooted phones.
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I don't think att can see your on a custom ROM, it has to do with if the developer is able to include that ability or not.
Thank you for the replies!
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone? Any disadvantages of using Clean Rom?
I'm just curious about how it works because I tried jailbreaking my iPhone and that made it very crash prone. It's a bad example but it's the reason why I never tried using custom software again but I'm interested in giving this a try. I only get about 2 hours screen time and about 12 hours of screen off time for my phone to die.
I did the HTC battery test and my phone went down to 92% so I'm pretty sure it's not the battery that's wrong with the phone.
RPTheLefty said:
I'm trying my best to understand how Clean Rom works. Is it the same thing as rooting a phone?
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It appears you need to do more reading to get a better understanding or root, ROMs, etc.
Root is just a change of permissions on your phone. It allows the user and apps access to system files that are normally restricted. Nothing more, nothing less.
Clean ROM (or installation of any custom ROM) is a total replacement of the firmware or operating system of the phone (also called a "ROM"). Clean ROM in particular is mostly based on the latest stock firmware version, but cleaned up to remove bloat, optimizations to make it faster and smoother, and some cool added features. There are 3 different versions of CleanROM. Just read the threads for each version to learn the differences.
I don't really keep up with iPhone stuff. But my understanding is that jailbreaking adds functionality, but makes the system less stable.
Whether a custom ROM on Android makes the phone more or less stable depends on the ROM. Some are ported from other phones, to give new UI look or functions, but can be a bit buggy at first. But any good ROM will be stable once it reaches "maturity" and the bugs are worked out. They can be very stable, and even more stable and smoother than the stock ROM. Which is one of the points of running a custom ROM.
CleanROM in particular is based on stock firmware, just cleaned up. So its very stable. Just as stable as stock, a bit smoother in some places, and with some awesome added features. Any disadvantages? Not really. But you need to unlock the bootloader to install any custom ROM, which voids the warranty. nd flashing anything to the phone has the risk of damage if you don't follow the instructions properly. Thats the only downsides I can think of (for any custom ROM, not just for CleanROM).
Redpoint had an excellent summary.
If you're looking for battery life improvement, there are significant advantages to a custom ROM. Some will allow you to adjust the clock rate for the processors. So you can turn the up a bit (overclock) to get incredible performance, or you can turn them down a bit (underclock) to get better battery life.
If that's your main goal, I personally suggest Sick Sense from Smokingl337. He has incorporated this into his ROM, and the reports I've seen have been positive. I had used his ROM before, and I did like it. The day I flashed CleanROM due to a minor bug, Smokinl337 updated his ROM to fix that bug. Figures! But I'll be going back to Sick Sense pretty soon, I'm sure.
Hopefully you can find something that works for you.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Different kernel or different radio may also help battery life.
But you need to root, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader to do any of these things (including flashing custom ROMs). So head over to Development and start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There is also a clean rom developers edition that takes out most of the HTC sense... there is the cm9 alpha 4 rom that seems very stable...
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OP, I was in your shoes last week. New to android/roms etc. I rooted, unlocked the bootloader and flashed Clean Rom. Just follow the instructions in the associated threads and you'll be fine.
Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!
1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.
1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.
On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back
Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
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Hey, sorry for such a noob question, I do lots of reading on here and tried to post within a certain rom, C-Rom Kit-Kat 4.4.2 5/13/14, and it won't allow me since I have never posted anything on XDA. I have the Verizon HTC ONE M8 and it is bootloader unlocked, s-off, and on the stock rom with build number 1.56, with lots of customization but I found a new rom I wanted to try. It is an AOSP rom like mentioned above but I never seemed to find what build number it is on? I know with a SENSE rom you have to be careful of what build number your phone is, whether it is 1.54 before the update or 1.56 after the update.
My question is, when flashing an AOSP/AOKP/CM rom through TWRP, does the build number matter? In all the AOSP roms I never haven't been able to find where the OP states which it is, making me wonder if I need to worry about it or not? I want to flash away from the stock rom but only to an AOSP type rom.. I want to be careful because since we don't have a removable battery, I am worried I will be stuck in bootloop and I am not sure how to get out of it without a battery pull.. (I know holding power and volume up will restart the phone but how would you get back into recovery to restore a backup?)
Also while I am at my first post, do you recommend TWRP, CWM, or Philz touch recovery? I would like to stick to one recovery throughout the tenure of the rooted ONE M8, makes keeping backups
Thanks for the help and I greatly appreciate it! And I apologize again for such a noob question..
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Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
Abe21599 said:
Correct me if im wrong, but the sense build is just telling what that ROM is based on. Once your S-OFF, you can flash them as you please. I know the bootloader version was what would cause bricks in the past (flashing a 4.2.2 rom in a 4.3 bootloader) but i havent seen anything like that for the M8 yet.
Vol DOwn and power will get you to hboot which will let you get to recovery. I use CWM but theyre all comparable, just personal preference.
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Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
pahlerc1 said:
Thanks for the reply! I can't wait to flash this new AOSP rom so I can remove all the bloatware put on by Verizon and Sense.. Just want to vierfy, so if the build number no longer matters since I am s-off, you're saying I can flash the ARHD rom on my phone even though it states the build number 1.54 and I have 1.56? Because I would also love to have a stock sense rom with lots of optimizations and tweaks for performance with less bloatware.
Thanks again
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I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
pahlerc1 said:
I just read that if you have the newest 1.55.6.. firmware and baseband and try to flash roms with the older baseband (1.54) then you might run into problems with losing root and and other issues..
Can someone please verify this? Currently on stock rom, rooted, s off, bootloader unlocked, with baseband 1.55.6.. Looking into flashing either AOSP rom or Sense rom but does it matter if its based on 1.54 or the newest 1.56?
Thanks, the help is greatly appreciated
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you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
Abe21599 said:
you're just gonna end up with whatever baseband you flash as the latest baseband. where are you seeing people lose root bc of flashing a different baseband?
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It was in a different thread, can't recall which.. I have been doing way too much reading I think it was in one last few pages of the venom rom thread.. I'll just wait for Venom and Skyfall to update their baseband to the latest 1.56 build. No worries. Thanks.
Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
ebb said:
Updated to the latest VZW firmware, and have had no issues using the multi-variant roms, which use the non-Verizon versions. My radio base still reflects the updated version (0321). On Viper right now with no issues, waiting for AOKP. Been using 2.7.0.2 TWRP with no problems. If you have a concern about flashing any ROM (and/or gapps if you are trying an AOSP ROM), just make sure you make a backup in recovery before anything else, and if the new stuff doesn't work well or borks your device, just learn how to get back into recovery and restore your backup. Read first, try second.
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Okay thanks for the help. I always make sure to read first and create a backup, I've made the mistake once and took a long process to get it solved and won't let that happen again that's for sure! Thanks for the response, I just flashed Skyfall 2.5 and it is amazing!