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[Q] difference between hboot versions

Dears,
Sorry for the silly question but i haven't enough experience in this field
what is the difference between hboot version 0.98.2000 and 2.00.002 and 7.xxx
i have htc desire s with s-off and hboot 0.98.2000 , is there a need to upgrade ?? and what will be the benefits and disadvantages ?
sorry alot , and thanks in advance

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
The hboots based on the 2.00.0002 (2.00.2002 and 7.00.1002) have an extra partition (split from the /cache partition) for /system/lib. Most custom Roms ignore this partition, so that they work on any hboot version, but some ROMs require one of these hboots (this would always be stated in the op).
2.02.0002 is the hboot version that came with the ics ruu, and has a different partition number for the extra partition.

Many thanks for your illustration , i really got the point
so for me as indicated above for my boot version , i have already installed ViperSaga_2.1.3 ROM and working fine for me , this is to ensure that there is no need to upgrade my hboot version ,, am i right ??

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
Yes, that's correct. When you choose to install a new Rom, remember to check whether it needs a new hboot version (if it doesn't say anything you can assume it will work with any hboot).
Or you could install a newer hboot (2.00.2002 or 7.00.1002) next time you change Rom anyway, then you won't need to worry about it any more.

shetoshandasa said:
Dears,
Sorry for the silly question but i haven't enough experience in this field
what is the difference between hboot version 0.98.2000 and 2.00.002 and 7.xxx
i have htc desire s with s-off and hboot 0.98.2000 , is there a need to upgrade ?? and what will be the benefits and disadvantages ?
sorry alot , and thanks in advance
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I would recommend changing your hboot from revolutionary.0.98 to say the 7.xxx as there seems to be some issues in the revolutionary.0.98 not clearing data properly during a wipe affecting things like wifi etc.
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”
― Oscar Wilde

Big thanks , i will proceed in upgrading my hboot

7.xxx is revolutionary version of 2.00.2002 with number higher than (revolutionary s-off) 6.xx so that you could easily flash it via fastboot. If you have 0.98 then you can flash 2.00.2002 shipped with official ics update. Some say that 7.xx have some issues with fastboot commands, with 2.00.2002 everything work just fine.
To be precise You wil not boot Sense 4 roms when using hboot 0.98 and 6.xx.

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amdr said:
7.xxx is revolutionary version of 2.00.2002 with number higher than (revolutionary s-off) 6.xx so that you could easily flash it via fastboot. If you have 0.98 then you can flash 2.00.2002 shipped with official ics update. Some say that 7.xx have some issues with fastboot commands, with 2.00.2002 everything work just fine.
To be precise You wil not boot Sense 4 roms when using hboot 0.98 and 6.xx.
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No, 2.00.2002 is basically the same as 7.00.1002, main difference is the version number. They're both based on 2.00.0002, which came with the ota/ruu s starting 2.x. The ics ruu came with 2.02.0002.
Edit: that's also not correct. Most sense 4 roms work with any hboot version.

teadrinker said:
No, 2.00.2002 is basically the same as 7.00.1002, main difference is the version number. They're both based on 2.00.0002, which came with the ota/ruu s starting 2.x. The ics ruu came with 2.02.0002.
Edit: that's also not correct. Most sense 4 roms work with any hboot version.
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The partition only really makes a difference in odexed roms i believe.
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”
― Oscar Wilde

AW: [Q] difference between hboot versions
Well, odexed roms take more space on /system, which is why thantos2024 moved /system/lib to the new partition, to have enough space on /system.

I want to upgrade my HBoot. Not sure which version to go with, what are the benefits of 7.00.1002 over 2.00.002 or 2.02.0002? Will it make my phone S-ON if I do? I only use Andromadus AOSP and that doesn't require either of these HBoots but I'd rather upgrade just in case I use something in the future that requires either of them.

If you're s-off you can upgrade to either 7.00.1002 or 2.00.2002 (which are practically the same).
HBOOTs 2.00.002 and 2.02.0002 are the ones that came with ruus, the only way to install them (if there were any point) is to flash an RUU (and make your phone s-on).

teadrinker said:
If you're s-off you can upgrade to either 7.00.1002 or 2.00.2002 (which are practically the same).
HBOOTs 2.00.002 and 2.02.0002 are the ones that came with ruus, the only way to install them (if there were any point) is to flash an RUU (and make your phone s-on).
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Okay, so flashing 2.00.2002 will work and won't disturb my S-OFF? I want to be absolutely sure before I do it.

If you're on 0.98.x, yes. If you're on 6.98.x, it won't update because of the version number (you can still flash 2.00.2002 using the 'dd if= of=' method) .

Hboot 2.15 - 2.16

In the new KitKat unofficial versions of Cyanogenmod there are versions with hboot 2.15 and 2.16.
Are there any advantages/differences between the HBOOT versions, except that you can flash different sense (sense4/5) roms on top of this?
For example battery consumption or something else.

kitkat
Hi,
I am not sure about the Hboot version at all.
I am using EU S4 with 2.15 Hboot
I use MaximusHD - JB 4.2 with Sense 5
When I tried CM it worked fine but the GUI is lame...
Can I combine CM with sense 5 together somehow?
(BTW - recovery should be CWM, the others caused bootloops after flashing ROMs)
Thanks

Daihogo said:
In the new KitKat unofficial versions of Cyanogenmod there are versions with hboot 2.15 and 2.16.
Are there any advantages/differences between the HBOOT versions, except that you can flash different sense (sense4/5) roms on top of this?
For example battery consumption or something else.
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It's only recently that this has happened, so I don't think there are any obvious differences with running the same ROM on different hboot versions. As the ROM's become more stable we will be able to see if there are any differences. The new 2.16 hboot has a different partition layout which allocates more space for apps. That is generally not the reason people have upgraded, it's because the 2.16 hboot is required to install MaximusHD ROM.

rosswhite said:
It's only recently that this has happened, so I don't think there are any obvious differences with running the same ROM on different hboot versions. As the ROM's become more stable we will be able to see if there are any differences. The new 2.16 hboot has a different partition layout which allocates more space for apps. That is generally not the reason people have upgraded, it's because the 2.16 hboot is required to install MaximusHD ROM.
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Thanks
I stay on 2.15 with cm kitkat

ofir1977 said:
Hi,
I am using EU S4 with 2.15 Hboot
I use MaximusHD - JB 4.2 with Sense 5
Thanks
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Using MaximusHD means you updated the firmware, you're on 2.16 hboot.

I am afraid you are not correct
benJX said:
Using MaximusHD means you updated the firmware, you're on 2.16 hboot.
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Just to make sure I checked again just now and in the fastboot screen it is Hboot 2.15
( I have MaximusHD with JB 4.2 and sense 5)

ofir1977 said:
Just to make sure I checked again just now and in the fastboot screen it is Hboot 2.15
( I have MaximusHD with JB 4.2 and sense 5)
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So you installed MaximusHD with s-on?? How is it everything working for you? Any bugs? Random reboots?
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MaximusHD with S-on
elias.acab said:
So you installed MaximusHD with s-on?? How is it everything working for you? Any bugs? Random reboots?
Sent from my One S
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Yes I did,
One thing - when I connect USB cable I can see only 2 GB storage.
I don't think it is related to the S-on thing, probably can be fixed with repartitioning or something...
BTW
I am not very satisfied with the level of battery consamption but I don't believe it has anything to do with S on or off.
Everything else is great. sense 5 is way better than sense 4+

ofir1977 said:
Yes I did,
One thing - when I connect USB cable I can see only 2 GB storage.
I don't think it is related to the S-on thing, probably can be fixed with repartitioning or something...
BTW
I am not very satisfied with the level of battery consamption but I don't believe it has anything to do with S on or off.
Everything else is great. sense 5 is way better than sense 4+
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for running MaximusHD properly its mandantory to be S-OFF and running TWRP2.6.1. Than u got more then 11 GB Memory

Hi Guys,
Couple of questions:
- If you update from Hboot 2.15 to 2.16, do you have to flash a ROM immediately afterwards? or will the Phone boot from current ROM?
- I know you can flash 2.15 ROM's to 2.16 Hboot when you flash boot.img afterwards. Is there a way to flash a 2.16 ROM to 2.15 Hboot?
I'd like to try a ROM that's for 2.16 but i'd rather stay at 2.15 I think.
Thanks for the help.

[Q] Problems with Viper Rom

Hello,
i'm having a lot of trouble with the viper made rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667758). I'm new here, so i cannot post it there.
My problems began when i try to install the updates. I have installed the original rom version 3.0.0. i get the OTA message, but when i try to install it in recovery, the phone can't mount the sd card, and the installation doesn't continu. I tried to do it manually (using the download link i found in one of the posts) and that seemed to work.
Then i got another OTA notification, to upgrade to version 3.1.0, but when i tried to boot after the installation, i couldn't enter my sim pincode, and when i reboot, the phone keeps looping. I have to install the original rom twice (once with and one time without wiping) before the ROM boots normally.
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)

It seems that viper made a fll rom, with the updates included.

Wrong Hboot?
Martin_Weterholt said:
Hello,
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)
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I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status

fidodaj said:
I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status
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You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose

LS.xD said:
You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose
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Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.

fidodaj said:
Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.
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If you're S-OFF ist possible I think

No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
The problems first could come from not being S-Off...this makes impossible to flash the kernel from recovery so any OTA that has a kernel is not flashed properly. I remember that 3.1.0 has also a full ROM ZIP, maybe is good if you flash that one from recovery and flash the kernel after that in fastboot. Also it could matter the recovery you're using, I would recommend latest TWRP
Sent from nowhere over the air..

Rapier said:
No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
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In the viper rom forum post it says ROM firmware required hboot 2.15/2.16.. Am I to j just ignore tha? Or is it that it is only required that hboot (2.15/2.16) if you are s-on and s-off can do whatever you like? Lol

You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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LS.xD said:
You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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Actually I'm on hboot 2.15 with Radio 1.20.XX
I know this doesn't help... just saying..
To contribute smth. To get the most out of the Viper 3 Rom, everyone should upgrade their Radio to 1.20.XX. And this is actually why you need to S-OFF.

Hboot

Hey guys I've looked around and I just can't seem to find what I'm looking for, does the hboot version matter? I am on 1.14, but the phone is still s-on , I would like to flash 4.4 roms but I wanted to know if I should ruu to the newer hboot and start from there.
Thanks
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Silentwidow said:
Hey guys I've looked around and I just can't seem to find what I'm looking for, does the hboot version matter? I am on 1.14, but the phone is still s-on , I would like to flash 4.4 roms but I wanted to know if I should ruu to the newer hboot and start from there.
Thanks
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Most of roms are usable on 2.15 hboot and lower (which comes with last ruu), so why not give it a try with your actual hboot ?
I would say you to update your hboot but since it wipes sdcard it's quite annoying
What you can do is make a backup and then try the rom you want, if you notice any issue, restore your backup or update through latest ruu.
For some reasons you'll probably need to manually update the radio to 1.20 or 1.35 (I don't recommend this last one since I had random reboots with it), but you need to s-off. I you do, I advise you to use rumrunner.

benJX said:
Most of roms are usable on 2.15 hboot and lower (which comes with last ruu), so why not give it a try with your actual hboot ?
I would say you to update your hboot but since it wipes sdcard it's quite annoying
What you can do is make a backup and then try the rom you want, if you notice any issue, restore your backup or update through latest ruu.
For some reasons you'll probably need to manually update the radio to 1.20 or 1.35 (I don't recommend this last one since I had random reboots with it), but you need to s-off. I you do, I advise you to use rumrunner.
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If he's on 1.14 he can't flash a KK ROM unless he's not modifying the updater-script in the ROM zip. The check there gives an error if someone tries to flash a KK ROM on a hboot other than 2.13.0000, 2.13.4444 or 2.15.0000

Rapier said:
If he's on 1.14 he can't flash a KK ROM unless he's not modifying the updater-script in the ROM zip. The check there gives an error if someone tries to flash a KK ROM on a hboot other than 2.13.0000, 2.13.4444 or 2.15.0000
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Yes on Vanir AOSP I had to do this to make it flashable on 2.16 (btw thx for your guide )
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How to expanded my app storage (repartioning)?

I have about 1 GB App storage and 6 GB data storage.
How can I repartion my storage to increase my app storage? I run TWRP and Cyanogenmod 12 (rooted).

Upgrade to hboot 2.16
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matu89 said:
Upgrade to hboot 2.16
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thank you very much matu89. Can I just flash hboot 2.16? Do I have to use adb or can I load the file onto my phone and flash it with TWRP?
In how far does hboot 2.16 help with repartioning my device?
edit: how to get hboot 2.16? i struggle getting the image
edit2: I tried to flash hboot 2.16 following this instructions but I got an error 99 (as others here and there also experienced). My phone is S-ON.
Furthermore i find this information:
DO NOT install updates offered by OS as they are not compatible with HBOOT 2.16
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So it would be mandatory for me, to downgrade to HBOOT 2.15 again in terms of being able to keep up to date.

If you looked at the instructions which are placed 11 threads below your thread (at the moment I'm typing this) you would have known that you need S-OFF since hboot 2.16 is leaked and not official. Besides it's not only an hboot you flash but a whole firmware package whose dzdata repartionises your phone.
That warning you found only means that you should deactivate the auto update function of CM and that you need to download and install the updates which are compiled by F-L-Y-E-R. So you won't get updates as frequent as if you were using official CM but the time range between two F-L-Y-E-R releases isn't huge, either.