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[Q] Move from MaximusHD 10.0 to CM 11

Hello everyone,
After a few month with the maximus rom i wanted to test out the new Cyanogenmod rom 11 on my htc one s.
But when i try flashing it with the recovery, it fails. I heard, that i have to downgrade something in order to get the new Rom installed. What must I do?
I have been reading a lot of topics without finding a concrete answer.
I am S-ON (No superCID) and I have TWRP 2.4.1 and Hboot 2.16
How can I install CM11 successfully ?
Thx :laugh:

Installing CM 11
kc6992 said:
Hello everyone,
After a few month with the maximus rom i wanted to test out the new Cyanogenmod rom 11 on my htc one s.
But when i try flashing it with the recovery, it fails. I heard, that i have to downgrade something in order to get the new Rom installed. What must I do?
I have been reading a lot of topics without finding a concrete answer.
I am S-ON (No superCID) and I have TWRP 2.4.1 and Hboot 1.16
How can I install CM11 successfully ?
Thx :laugh:
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Aquire S-Off and SuperCID . This makes things ten times more easier . There are recent thread posts in Android development that show you how .
You will have to actually update your hboot to 2.15 and implement a twrp that supports SElinux.
1 ) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322755
Use that to upgrade your hboot.
2 ) http://flemmard.net/recoveries/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ville-selinux.img
Download and flash this recovery.
3 ) http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=ville
Get the latest nightly from the get.cm
... and flash away
---------- Post added at 11:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 PM ----------
If you need specifics, Let me know.
I've been down your path and I hopefully can help you out on each step.
Happy flashing

S-Off
Thanks for the fast reply.
Is it better to do S Off before superCID ?
To make it s-off which méthode should i use? Facepalm or moonshine?

kc6992 said:
Thanks for the fast reply.
Is it better to do S Off before superCID ?
To make it s-off which méthode should i use? Facepalm or moonshine?
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S-Off First, Cause that's what enables you to install different RUU's and update/downgrade firmware.
Try Facepalm
.. and for superCID, use one of the toolkit's. that one's a bit easier

kc6992 said:
Hello everyone,
After a few month with the maximus rom i wanted to test out the new Cyanogenmod rom 11 on my htc one s.
But when i try flashing it with the recovery, it fails. I heard, that i have to downgrade something in order to get the new Rom installed. What must I do?
I have been reading a lot of topics without finding a concrete answer.
I am S-ON (No superCID) and I have TWRP 2.4.1 and Hboot 1.16
How can I install CM11 successfully ?
Thx :laugh:
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You have hboot 2.16 not 1.16. What I suggest is before downgrading, try one of CM11 builds for 2.16. They're compiled by RockR172 for 2.16 and they're based on official builds. Latest available is the one from 20/12 and you'll find it in the second post from the CM11 thread. If you find then CM11 comfortable to use, you could downgrade your hboot to 2.15 and start using the official nightlies.
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Hboot
Rapier said:
You have hboot 2.16 not 1.16. What I suggest is before downgrading, try one of CM11 builds for 2.16. They're compiled by RockR172 for 2.16 and they're based on official builds. Latest available is the one from 20/12 and you'll find it in the second post from the CM11 thread. If you find then CM11 comfortable to use, you could downgrade your hboot to 2.15 and start using the official nightlies.
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You right i have hboot 2.16 ...
This unofficial Rom will also work with s-off if i use "Incase you don't have S-OFF, fastboot flash boot boot.img" or won't it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528113
For the next step:
How can I downgrade hboot then? must i have to lock and then unlock it again with HTCdev?
Must i be s-off and supercid?

kc6992 said:
You right i have hboot 2.16 ...
This unofficial Rom will also work with s-off if i use "Incase you don't have S-OFF, fastboot flash boot boot.img" or won't it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528113
For the next step:
How can I downgrade hboot then? must i have to lock and then unlock it again with HTCdev?
Must i be s-off and supercid?
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Yes. That was the one I told you about. In the second post, you'll find links to the 2.16 builds. The latest one is THIS. That step for flashing kernel in fastboot is mandatory for anyone that's S-On, for any ROM and for any hboot higher than 1.09. So after you flash that ROM, reboot to fastboot and flash the boot.img (that you have previously extracted from the ROM zip) using that command.
For downgrade, there a couple of threads describing the procedure in the Dev section, there's no need to repeat all this at this point. Fist flash this CM and see if you are OK with it...not to find later that you've downgraded and now you want MaximusHd back. Going from sense based ROMs to non-sense based ROMs was a challenge for many and there are alot of things that differs. That's why I said you might want to check first and only after take such decision

I just compiled a recent CM11 version (0109-nightly) for hboot 2.16. You can download it from
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ajti88ZAFzYkZqNEVydkZwSzg/edit?usp=sharing
if you want. Its compiled from the official CM11 sources where additionally two cherry picks
are necessary to support the new hboot and TWRP recovery
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/53647/
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/53559/
Edit: Note that this build is ONLY for HBOOT 2.16 !!!
If you are s-on you still have to extract the kernel (boot.img) from the archive and flash it via fastboot after
flashing the zip. Alternatively you can use the FlashImageGUI app (from play store). In this case flash the boot.img BEFORE
you flash the rom zip. Worked great for me when I was still s-on and you don't need a computer to flash a
new rom.
kc6992 said:
You right i have hboot 2.16 ...
This unofficial Rom will also work with s-off if i use "Incase you don't have S-OFF, fastboot flash boot boot.img" or won't it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528113
For the next step:
How can I downgrade hboot then? must i have to lock and then unlock it again with HTCdev?
Must i be s-off and supercid?
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Hey Bro How Did U managed to install Maximus Hd on S on and without supercid...plzz tell me m tired of this Tmobile Rom.....thankx.

I believe Twistedkat ROM works on hboot 2.16. Check it out in dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584591&page=37

Nobody?????

Hemantgits said:
Nobody?????
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What Hboot are you on ?

kc6992 said:
Hello everyone,
After a few month with the maximus rom i wanted to test out the new Cyanogenmod rom 11 on my htc one s.
But when i try flashing it with the recovery, it fails. I heard, that i have to downgrade something in order to get the new Rom installed. What must I do?
I have been reading a lot of topics without finding a concrete answer.
I am S-ON (No superCID) and I have TWRP 2.4.1 and Hboot 1.16
How can I install CM11 successfully ?
Thx :laugh:
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This thread is very confusing!
Firstly the OP must be S-Off to flash the 2.16 firmware in order to run MaximusHD with the right storage etc, no? Might be confused thinking superCID is S-Off? Also, TWRP version must be 2.6.1.0 not 2.4.1?
drkxyz said:
I just compiled a recent CM11 version (0109-nightly) for hboot 2.16. You can download it from
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ajti88ZAFzYkZqNEVydkZwSzg/edit?usp=sharing
if you want. Its compiled from the official CM11 sources where additionally two cherry picks
are necessary to support the new hboot and TWRP recovery
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/53647/
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/53559/
Edit: Note that this build is ONLY for HBOOT 2.16 !!!
If you are s-on you still have to extract the kernel (boot.img) from the archive and flash it via fastboot after
flashing the zip. Alternatively you can use the FlashImageGUI app (from play store). In this case flash the boot.img BEFORE
you flash the rom zip. Worked great for me when I was still s-on and you don't need a computer to flash a
new rom.
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Did the CM 0109-nightly for 2.16 hboot you compiled flash ok? Are you running it now? I think most of the dev's have had problems getting it to install properly. I don't think you can be S-On and on 2.16 hboot, unless I'm missing something?
fatboyslimerr said:
I believe Twistedkat ROM works on hboot 2.16. Check it out in dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584591&page=37
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I tried to flash the latest version of Twistedkat ROM the other night and it wouldn't flash with any recovery that I tried on 2.16 hboot.

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rosswhite said:
This thread is very confusing!
Firstly the OP must be S-Off to flash the 2.16 firmware in order to run MaximusHD with the right storage etc, no? Might be confused thinking superCID is S-Off? Also, TWRP version must be 2.6.1.0 not 2.4.1?
Did the CM 0109-nightly for 2.16 hboot you compiled flash ok? Are you running it now? I think most of the dev's have had problems getting it to install properly. I don't think you can be S-On and on 2.16 hboot, unless I'm missing something?
I tried to flash the latest version of Twistedkat ROM the other night and it wouldn't flash with any recovery that I tried on 2.16 hboot.
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I wasn't confused. I really was S-On with twrp 2.4.1 and it worked well
Now i'am back on hboot 2.15 and i flashed CWM in order to flash CM11.
For maximusHD on hboot 2.16 and S-ON I just followed the tutorial : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445392
I know it may sound confusing, but maximusHD worked for me on S-ON, and it has been my daily Rom for over 3 months.
When i installed it, I just couldnt run the firmware.zip (i had a fail) but it worked correctly without.

kc6992 said:
I wasn't confused. I really was S-On with twrp 2.4.1 and it worked well
Now i'am back on hboot 2.15 and i flashed CWM in order to flash CM11.
For maximusHD on hboot 2.16 and S-ON I just followed the tutorial : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445392
I know it may sound confusing, but maximusHD worked for me on S-ON, and it has been my daily Rom for over 3 months.
When i installed it, I just couldnt run the firmware.zip (i had a fail) but it worked correctly without.
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Ok, the thing is it's the firmware.zip that gives you a hboot version of 2.16. So if you didn't flash that, you were on a lower hboot, you can still flash the ROM I believe but you only have 2gb of storage available. Anyway, It doesn't matter now. Enjoy CM11.

CM nightly on 2.16 firmware works great for me. Updated to 0110 in the meanwhile and I only have the known bugs like backlight not coming
up after a phone call and very rare reboots (indeed no reboot on 0110 since now :fingers-crossed: )
There are indeed lots of people who installed MaximusHD on hboot 2.16 with s-on over in the MaximusHD thread. It's very dangerous though
and may lead to bricked devices ...
rosswhite said:
This thread is very confusing!
Firstly the OP must be S-Off to flash the 2.16 firmware in order to run MaximusHD with the right storage etc, no? Might be confused thinking superCID is S-Off? Also, TWRP version must be 2.6.1.0 not 2.4.1?
Did the CM 0109-nightly for 2.16 hboot you compiled flash ok? Are you running it now? I think most of the dev's have had problems getting it to install properly. I don't think you can be S-On and on 2.16 hboot, unless I'm missing something?
I tried to flash the latest version of Twistedkat ROM the other night and it wouldn't flash with any recovery that I tried on 2.16 hboot.
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Here is an updated CM11 build for hboot 2.16, containing the latest patch for the backlight bug. Its been built from the
original CM11 sources.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ajti88ZAFzRmV3Mi1aM2lxY0E/edit?usp=sharing
Works great and I haven't had any backlight problems or reboots yet !!!
kc6992 said:
Hello everyone,
After a few month with the maximus rom i wanted to test out the new Cyanogenmod rom 11 on my htc one s.
But when i try flashing it with the recovery, it fails. I heard, that i have to downgrade something in order to get the new Rom installed. What must I do?
I have been reading a lot of topics without finding a concrete answer.
I am S-ON (No superCID) and I have TWRP 2.4.1 and Hboot 1.16
How can I install CM11 successfully ?
Thx :laugh:
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Mozziliac said:
What Hboot are you on ?
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Hboot 2.15

New CM11 built 140115 for hboot 2.16 for anyone who is interested
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ajti88ZAFzMDl4TW1Oc2tVQVE/edit?usp=sharing
Can anyone post/link this into the CM11 development section?
Have fun ...

drkxyz said:
New CM11 built 140115 for hboot 2.16 for anyone who is interested
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ajti88ZAFzMDl4TW1Oc2tVQVE/edit?usp=sharing
Can anyone post/link this into the CM11 development section?
Have fun ...
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Now you can post it yourself.

[Q] MaximusHD+Hboot S-OFF

i just recently S-OFF through Rumrunner and i was wondering if im able to install maximusHD 10 (sense 5 + android 4.2). I'm not sure if hboot 2.16 is required, since im S-OFF with hboot 2.15. thanks.

xPhrosty said:
i just recently S-OFF through Rumrunner and i was wondering if im able to install maximusHD 10 (sense 5 + android 4.2). I'm not sure if hboot 2.16 is required, since im S-OFF with hboot 2.15. thanks.
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Part of the install instructions for MaximusHD is updating your hboot version from 2.15 to 2.16. So yes, 2.15 is correct for now. When you go to download the ROM there are 2 files, the ROM and the installer package. The installer package contains the firmware (this is what updates the hboot to 2.16) and the recovery. This is why the instructions are a little complicated. Basically you have to flash the rom first, then flash the firmware, then flash the recovery, then flash the ROM again. Just note, you can not mount storage in TWRP recovery for 2.16. Also, if you are a stock android fan then stay on 2.15 if you want to have a greater choice of ROM's. Currently I think the only AOSP based ROM that supports the 2.16 hboot is CM11.
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rosswhite said:
Part of the install instructions for MaximusHD is updating your hboot version from 2.15 to 2.16. So yes, 2.15 is correct for now. When you go to download the ROM there are 2 files, the ROM and the installer package. The installer package contains the firmware (this is what updates the hboot to 2.16) and the recovery. This is why the instructions are a little complicated. Basically you have to flash the rom first, then flash the firmware, then flash the recovery, then flash the ROM again. Just note, you can not mount storage in TWRP recovery for 2.16. Also, if you are a stock android fan then stay on 2.15 if you want to have a greater choice of ROM's. Currently I think the only AOSP based ROM that supports the 2.16 hboot is CM11.
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okay, that makes much more sense now. thanks a lot!

Hboot versions.

I was thinking...how about we all devise a list of compatible ROMs for each hboot version?? That way it would lessen the confusion on compatible hboots.. Maybe even a recovery list as well. Any thoughts?
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It isn't even the hboot that matters, it's the firmware that the hboot is a part of that matters. You can flash just the hboot all you like and it won't achieve anything without the rest of the firmware.
It'd be a short list anyway; any current aosp ROM requires at least the 3.18 firmware which includes the 2.14 hboot. Any Sense 5 ROM requires at least the 5.08 firmware that includes the 2.15 hboot. Any Sense 4 ROM it doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure this information is mentioned in my Evita FAQ thread already but I'll double check and revise it if necessary.
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OK. Cuz I keep trying to flash ROMs and getting prop boot errors. Lol
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The ONLY difference I have ever noticed was the 1.09 hboot and all the others. 1.09 is the only hboot that would allow me to shell restart/hot reboot in stock 4.1.1. If I had any other hboot with stock 4.1.1, it would just get stuck on the boot animation.
But this was the ONLY difference I found.

chrisb906 said:
OK. Cuz I keep trying to flash ROMs and getting prop boot errors. Lol
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It's pretty simple. If you want to run an aosp ROM you need to at least run the 3.18 RUU. If you want to run a Sense 5 ROM you need to flash the 2.15 firmware. The 2.15 firmware is compatible with both so you may as well just flash that and you're safe either way.
If you've been flashing just hboots you've been doing it wrong and probably have a major mismatch between your firmware and your hboot. Also, if you have a modified hboot (red text removed) it can cause problems.
Sent from my Evita

If you want to run the latest Hboot and firmware with many of the AOSP Roms you basically have two choices:
1. Modify the install script to accept the HBoot version #:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627309&page=5
2. Downgrade to 2.15 and move back to 2.18 after Rom install:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517148
then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2651052
You must be SOFF to do any of this!
So far CM 11 supports the new Firmware and Hboot. Any Rom using CM as the base (after they introduced support) will work with no problems.

Absolutely. It remains to be seen whether there's actually any benefit to changing from 2.15 to 2.17 or 2.18 though.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Absolutely. It remains to be seen whether there's actually any benefit to changing from 2.15 to 2.17 or 2.18 though.
Sent from my Evita
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I flashed it after the "reduced" version was released by 24ky. So far I can't tell the difference between them. The only difference I have noticed is a slight bit better signal but it's nothing to write home about and it may only apply to me in my cell coverage area. So I'll stick with it for now.

timmaaa said:
It isn't even the hboot that matters, it's the firmware that the hboot is a part of that matters. You can flash just the hboot all you like and it won't achieve anything without the rest of the firmware.
It'd be a short list anyway; any current aosp ROM requires at least the 3.18 firmware which includes the 2.14 hboot. Any Sense 5 ROM requires at least the 5.08 firmware that includes the 2.15 hboot. Any Sense 4 ROM it doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure this information is mentioned in my Evita FAQ thread already but I'll double check and revise it if necessary.
Sent from my Evita
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so a long story short...what is the best firmware to flash almost any rom?

chrisb906 said:
so a long story short...what is the best firmware to flash almost any rom?
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is this 2.15 on this list somewhere? lol
Edit: I mean the ruu with the 2.15
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita

timmaaa said:
It's pretty simple. If you want to run an aosp ROM you need to at least run the 3.18 RUU. If you want to run a Sense 5 ROM you need to flash the 2.15 firmware. The 2.15 firmware is compatible with both so you may as well just flash that and you're safe either way.
If you've been flashing just hboots you've been doing it wrong and probably have a major mismatch between your firmware and your hboot. Also, if you have a modified hboot (red text removed) it can cause problems.
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What about aokp? I can't flash that with 2.15
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chrisb906 said:
is this 2.15 on this list somewhere? lol
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
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Lol, this dead horse refuses to go away. There's literally nothing left to beat....
It's this simple really:
Sense based Roms 4.2.2 and higher = 2.15 (for now) You can try 2.17 or 2.18...who knows. I haven't seen any reports yet.
AOSP based Roms 4.2.2 and higher = 2.14 (unless the Rom's updater script is modified to allow higher, in which case it really doesn't make much of a difference.)
Should you want to go with an AOSP Rom with a higher firmware and Hboot and the Rom's updater script hasn't been updated see my post above.^^
Make sense?

Yea..fully. Lol
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Just asking cuz I couldn't flash any aokp Roms. That's all
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And I did do the hboot 2.15 on the resurrected pandasa op. Haha
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I've flashed both AOKP and AICP with the 2.15 firmware installed. Anyway, like madcat said, kinda beating a dead horse here now, it should be simple.
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Yea. It is simple. I know this..but I still can't flash the aokp ROMs..even with appropriate versions. Just saying
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I think that's because you've messed something up in flashing all these things without really knowing what you're doing.
Run the 3.18 RUU, flash the modified version of TWRP 2.6.3.0 or the new official TWRP 2.7, and flash the ROM. Do nothing but those. Report back.
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OK. But to let u know I ran 3.18 ruu then flashed 2.15 hboot.. Was that a bad idea?
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If you flashed just the hboot, yes it was a bad idea. Like I said earlier in the thread, flashing just the hboot achieves nothing.
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[Q] Problems with Viper Rom

Hello,
i'm having a lot of trouble with the viper made rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667758). I'm new here, so i cannot post it there.
My problems began when i try to install the updates. I have installed the original rom version 3.0.0. i get the OTA message, but when i try to install it in recovery, the phone can't mount the sd card, and the installation doesn't continu. I tried to do it manually (using the download link i found in one of the posts) and that seemed to work.
Then i got another OTA notification, to upgrade to version 3.1.0, but when i tried to boot after the installation, i couldn't enter my sim pincode, and when i reboot, the phone keeps looping. I have to install the original rom twice (once with and one time without wiping) before the ROM boots normally.
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)

It seems that viper made a fll rom, with the updates included.

Wrong Hboot?
Martin_Weterholt said:
Hello,
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)
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I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status

fidodaj said:
I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status
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You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose

LS.xD said:
You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose
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Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.

fidodaj said:
Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.
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If you're S-OFF ist possible I think

No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
The problems first could come from not being S-Off...this makes impossible to flash the kernel from recovery so any OTA that has a kernel is not flashed properly. I remember that 3.1.0 has also a full ROM ZIP, maybe is good if you flash that one from recovery and flash the kernel after that in fastboot. Also it could matter the recovery you're using, I would recommend latest TWRP
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Rapier said:
No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
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In the viper rom forum post it says ROM firmware required hboot 2.15/2.16.. Am I to j just ignore tha? Or is it that it is only required that hboot (2.15/2.16) if you are s-on and s-off can do whatever you like? Lol

You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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LS.xD said:
You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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Actually I'm on hboot 2.15 with Radio 1.20.XX
I know this doesn't help... just saying..
To contribute smth. To get the most out of the Viper 3 Rom, everyone should upgrade their Radio to 1.20.XX. And this is actually why you need to S-OFF.

[S4] HBOOT Comparison | 2.15 vs 2.16

This is a comparison between the older Jellybean HBOOT 2.15 and the leaked HBOOT 2.16​
HBOOT 2.15 Pros​
Supported by about 95% of the HTC One S ROMs around
Ability to mount storage as Mass Storage. TWRP 2.7.x.x and lower
Going S-ON with this HBOOT won't corrupt your SD Card
HBOOT 2.15 Cons​
Smaller SD Card partition - 10 GB of Storage
Smaller System partition - 1 GB-ish (Not sure what exact size is)
Older Radio, ADSP, WCNSS and other firmware elements
HBOOT 2.16 Pros​
Bigger SD Card Partition - 12.9 GB of Storage
Bigger System Partition - About 1.5 GB - Useful for ported Sense ROMs
Updated Radio and other firmware elements - Better Radio performance, battery life, etc.
Growing support for HBOOT 2.16 ROMs
HBOOT 2.16 Cons​
Requires S-OFF to instal
Supported by about 30% of the HTC One S ROMs around
Going S-ON will corrupt your SD Card (Trust me!)
Installation NOT recommended for first time users
As you can see here there is no real advantage of upgrading to HBOOT 2.16 other than the increased partition sizes, but there is not really any disadvantage other than the S-ON SD Card corruption, it does give you slightly better Radio performance though. Anyway, hopefully this will help users decide whether or not to upgrade to HBOOT 2.16
Please tell me more of your pros and cons of each HBOOT that are NOT already listed here and I will include them​

Very useful, great idea

Well I'm on HBOOT 2.15.4444 (moonshine hboot) and I have the full set of fastboot oem flash commands. I also manually upgraded to the newer Radio 1.20, with matching WCNSS and ASDP so I'm fine that way. I use CM 11 M10 atm, got to update my signature, and it doesn't support HBOOT 2.16 yet. I dont need the bigger partition sizes, i'm doing just fine for now so I'm sticking with HBOOT 2.15.4444 for the foreseeable future.

This is a good thread idea. But to help users interested I would add a definition of what is an HBOOT...
As I read your post, I see 2 possibilities :
you're talking about the firmware: boot loader + partition layout + recovery + radio + other partitions
or just the boot loader and partition layout
I would say number 2 but this is arguable...

kdd998 said:
This is a good thread idea. But to help users interested I would add a definition of what is an HBOOT...
As I read your post, I see 2 possibilities :
you're talking about the firmware: boot loader + partition layout + recovery + radio + other partitions
or just the boot loader and partition layout
I would say number 2 but this is arguable...
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Mainy people on this thread refer to hboot 2.16 as the whole firmware (radio, bootloader, adsp, wcnss and parition scemes)

dd98 said:
Mainy people on this thread refer to hboot 2.16 as the whole firmware (radio, bootloader, adsp, wcnss and parition scemes)
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Well the more technically inclined don't. When they think HBOOT 2.16, they think HBOOT 2.16 firmware that @LlabTooFeR leaked

javelinanddart said:
Well the more technically inclined don't. When they think HBOOT 2.16, they think HBOOT 2.16 firmware that @LlabTooFeR leaked
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yes thats what im talking about

dd98 said:
HBOOT 2.16 Cons​Need to downgrade to HBOOT 2.15 to run an RUU
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I have previously run an RUU to downgrade from 2.16 to 2.15. Why would you not be able to run it? I thought it would be the safest method.

rosswhite said:
I have previously run an RUU to downgrade from 2.16 to 2.15. Why would you not be able to run it? I thought it would be the safest method.
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strangely enough whenever i ran an ruu, i had to re-install hboot 2.15

dd98 said:
strangely enough whenever i ran an ruu, i had to re-install hboot 2.15
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That's really odd. That shouldn't happen. I can always RUU over HBOOT 2.16 (well not ALWAYS, my computer is broken so....)
Also, as far as I know, only flash Radio, WCNSS, and ASDP from HBOOT 2.16 firmware on 2.15. I've run into issues before.

ability to mount mass storage in TWRP 2.7.1.2 , it works fine on my phone

kingofsurf said:
ability to mount mass storage in TWRP 2.7.1.2 , it works fine on my phone
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thats only for hboot 2.15 though

dd98 said:
thats only for hboot 2.15 though
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No it works on 2.16 also

Flashalot said:
No it works on 2.16 also
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im thinking of modified twrp 2.6.1.0 then

I don't see older radios as a con since the one that come with jb was the best for me plus with s-off you can have any radio.
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I would like to try to go back to 2.15 because the call quality issue with sense6 drives me crazy. How to do? What ruu should I flash?

kingofsurf said:
I would like to try to go back to 2.15 because the call quality issue with sense6 drives me crazy. How to do? What ruu should I flash?
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im assuming its a european one s, like mine. just flash this ruu
you need one of the following cids
11111111
HTC__001

How to install hboot 2.16
Can you help me how to install HBOOT 2:16 ???
Plzz...

ShkodranY said:
Can you help me how to install HBOOT 2:16 ???
Plzz...
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There is a whole Q&A bit just for that or the one thread that has everything you need to flash it.
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ShkodranY said:
Can you help me how to install HBOOT 2:16 ???
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You can try my guide here