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*** WHAT MY PROBLEM IS***
PLEASE can someone confirm any AOSP ROM that works with 2.15 HBOOT?
***WHAT I KNOW***
( i know the CM 10.2 thread says that RUU 3.18 which will make the hboot 2.14 but since 2.15 is latest i assume it should support)
(i also know that [HBOOT 2.15 is essential for SENSE 5 4.2.2 to run,i believe that's the only reason people go for 2.15)
***WHAT I HAVE TRIED***
NOW from what i have tried is that the 1st stable cm 10 release doesn't work with 2.15 (obviously too old build) my screen also became responsive(i believe that because of touch panel firmware) then with the latest stable release of cm 10.1 it specified that it needs hboot 2.14 and hence couldn't flash.
with PAC 4.3 it does gets installed but screen is unresponsive and infinite bootloops!:silly:
***WILL THIS WORK***
so now if i RUU 3.18 i will have to unlock boot loader and root it (M SOFF SUPER CID) which i m not really ready to do!
now there are methods that can help u downgrade/upgrade your firmware , can i do that?
also will using torched kernel help in me in any way?
***WHY DO I WANT AOSP***
Viper XL 4.2.2 best ROM ever hats off but the thing is i dont know why but i have Signal issues i tried flashing the recommended RADIO version.
since the vendor had already RUUd my device that was meant from some ASIAN region and already came with SENSE 5 and i dint mess up with it in any way still i had signal issues (which are unpredictable) i found by GSAM BATTERY monitor that around 30 to 40% of my battery is consumed by RADIO.
also the best signal is around -81db
i also had some issues with camera!
and then there is the numerous options i can have with AOSP.
****LASTLY CAN ANYONE HELP****
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Just RUU. Your bootloader will remain unlocked and your S-OFF will remain
After the RUU you can flash recovery and flash a rom. You can technically just flash the 2.14 firmware.zip by extracting it from an OTA or an RUU, but easier to just ruu. and you get a nice clean wipe too.
I misread the m soff part sorry. You could have just run the ruu and twrp and been done in the time it took you to write that post.
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954wrecker said:
He makes it hard to understand but he is S-ON so he is screwed at this point
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no no no i am SOFF i know for sure!!!
exad said:
Just RUU. Your bootloader will remain unlocked and your S-OFF will remain
After the RUU you can flash recovery and flash a rom. You can technically just flash the 2.14 firmware.zip by extracting it from an OTA or an RUU, but easier to just ruu. and you get a nice clean wipe too.
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jus for the sake for reassurance:
after RUU:
will Bootloader remain Unlocked?
will it still be SOFF?
and SUPERCID?
so these things will survive the RUU?
954wrecker said:
I misread the m soff part sorry. You could have just run the ruu and twrp and been done in the time it took you to write that post.
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LOL u are right thanks!
its just that m kinda paranoid cause every day in the Help and Troubleshooting section there is some thread dats says BRICKED so always to be on the safer side!
Sonone said:
jus for the sake for reassurance:
after RUU:
will Bootloader remain Unlocked?
will it still be SOFF?
and SUPERCID?
so these things will survive the RUU?
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yes
exad said:
yes
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thanks a lot EXAD!!!:good::good:
btw earlier you mentione its possible to extract the firmware file?
how can it be done?
Sonone said:
thanks a lot EXAD!!!:good::good:
btw earlier you mentione its possible to extract the firmware file?
how can it be done?
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the easiest way is to extract firmware.zip from a 3.17/3.18 ota file for your carrier.
exad said:
the easiest way is to extract firmware.zip from a 3.17/3.18 ota file for your carrier.
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I wouldn't mess with extracting the firmware files from the OTAs manually. If one of the hboot modules is missing, a brick can result. The OP is probably OK, since he has already manually updated to hboot 2.15. But RUU is still seems the safest way.
redpoint73 said:
I wouldn't mess with extracting the firmware files from the OTAs manually. If one of the hboot modules is missing, a brick can result. The OP is probably OK, since he has already manually updated to hboot 2.15. But RUU is still seems the safest way.
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as always thank you...
since u recoomend thats the safest way i will try out that.
have to download the RUU 3.18!!!
*waiting*
I was thinking...how about we all devise a list of compatible ROMs for each hboot version?? That way it would lessen the confusion on compatible hboots.. Maybe even a recovery list as well. Any thoughts?
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It isn't even the hboot that matters, it's the firmware that the hboot is a part of that matters. You can flash just the hboot all you like and it won't achieve anything without the rest of the firmware.
It'd be a short list anyway; any current aosp ROM requires at least the 3.18 firmware which includes the 2.14 hboot. Any Sense 5 ROM requires at least the 5.08 firmware that includes the 2.15 hboot. Any Sense 4 ROM it doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure this information is mentioned in my Evita FAQ thread already but I'll double check and revise it if necessary.
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OK. Cuz I keep trying to flash ROMs and getting prop boot errors. Lol
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The ONLY difference I have ever noticed was the 1.09 hboot and all the others. 1.09 is the only hboot that would allow me to shell restart/hot reboot in stock 4.1.1. If I had any other hboot with stock 4.1.1, it would just get stuck on the boot animation.
But this was the ONLY difference I found.
chrisb906 said:
OK. Cuz I keep trying to flash ROMs and getting prop boot errors. Lol
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It's pretty simple. If you want to run an aosp ROM you need to at least run the 3.18 RUU. If you want to run a Sense 5 ROM you need to flash the 2.15 firmware. The 2.15 firmware is compatible with both so you may as well just flash that and you're safe either way.
If you've been flashing just hboots you've been doing it wrong and probably have a major mismatch between your firmware and your hboot. Also, if you have a modified hboot (red text removed) it can cause problems.
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If you want to run the latest Hboot and firmware with many of the AOSP Roms you basically have two choices:
1. Modify the install script to accept the HBoot version #:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627309&page=5
2. Downgrade to 2.15 and move back to 2.18 after Rom install:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517148
then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2651052
You must be SOFF to do any of this!
So far CM 11 supports the new Firmware and Hboot. Any Rom using CM as the base (after they introduced support) will work with no problems.
Absolutely. It remains to be seen whether there's actually any benefit to changing from 2.15 to 2.17 or 2.18 though.
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timmaaa said:
Absolutely. It remains to be seen whether there's actually any benefit to changing from 2.15 to 2.17 or 2.18 though.
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I flashed it after the "reduced" version was released by 24ky. So far I can't tell the difference between them. The only difference I have noticed is a slight bit better signal but it's nothing to write home about and it may only apply to me in my cell coverage area. So I'll stick with it for now.
timmaaa said:
It isn't even the hboot that matters, it's the firmware that the hboot is a part of that matters. You can flash just the hboot all you like and it won't achieve anything without the rest of the firmware.
It'd be a short list anyway; any current aosp ROM requires at least the 3.18 firmware which includes the 2.14 hboot. Any Sense 5 ROM requires at least the 5.08 firmware that includes the 2.15 hboot. Any Sense 4 ROM it doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure this information is mentioned in my Evita FAQ thread already but I'll double check and revise it if necessary.
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so a long story short...what is the best firmware to flash almost any rom?
chrisb906 said:
so a long story short...what is the best firmware to flash almost any rom?
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is this 2.15 on this list somewhere? lol
Edit: I mean the ruu with the 2.15
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
timmaaa said:
It's pretty simple. If you want to run an aosp ROM you need to at least run the 3.18 RUU. If you want to run a Sense 5 ROM you need to flash the 2.15 firmware. The 2.15 firmware is compatible with both so you may as well just flash that and you're safe either way.
If you've been flashing just hboots you've been doing it wrong and probably have a major mismatch between your firmware and your hboot. Also, if you have a modified hboot (red text removed) it can cause problems.
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What about aokp? I can't flash that with 2.15
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chrisb906 said:
is this 2.15 on this list somewhere? lol
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
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Lol, this dead horse refuses to go away. There's literally nothing left to beat....
It's this simple really:
Sense based Roms 4.2.2 and higher = 2.15 (for now) You can try 2.17 or 2.18...who knows. I haven't seen any reports yet.
AOSP based Roms 4.2.2 and higher = 2.14 (unless the Rom's updater script is modified to allow higher, in which case it really doesn't make much of a difference.)
Should you want to go with an AOSP Rom with a higher firmware and Hboot and the Rom's updater script hasn't been updated see my post above.^^
Make sense?
Yea..fully. Lol
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Just asking cuz I couldn't flash any aokp Roms. That's all
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And I did do the hboot 2.15 on the resurrected pandasa op. Haha
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I've flashed both AOKP and AICP with the 2.15 firmware installed. Anyway, like madcat said, kinda beating a dead horse here now, it should be simple.
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Yea. It is simple. I know this..but I still can't flash the aokp ROMs..even with appropriate versions. Just saying
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I think that's because you've messed something up in flashing all these things without really knowing what you're doing.
Run the 3.18 RUU, flash the modified version of TWRP 2.6.3.0 or the new official TWRP 2.7, and flash the ROM. Do nothing but those. Report back.
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OK. But to let u know I ran 3.18 ruu then flashed 2.15 hboot.. Was that a bad idea?
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If you flashed just the hboot, yes it was a bad idea. Like I said earlier in the thread, flashing just the hboot achieves nothing.
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Hello,
i'm having a lot of trouble with the viper made rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667758). I'm new here, so i cannot post it there.
My problems began when i try to install the updates. I have installed the original rom version 3.0.0. i get the OTA message, but when i try to install it in recovery, the phone can't mount the sd card, and the installation doesn't continu. I tried to do it manually (using the download link i found in one of the posts) and that seemed to work.
Then i got another OTA notification, to upgrade to version 3.1.0, but when i tried to boot after the installation, i couldn't enter my sim pincode, and when i reboot, the phone keeps looping. I have to install the original rom twice (once with and one time without wiping) before the ROM boots normally.
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)
It seems that viper made a fll rom, with the updates included.
Wrong Hboot?
Martin_Weterholt said:
Hello,
What am i doing wrong?
i'm on Hboot 1.25 and radio:1.15.50.05.29
I'm S-on (RL)
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I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status
fidodaj said:
I'm not sure but i think it starts with your Hboot, maybe one of the older members can verify, but according to the rom it requires Hboot version 2.15 or 2.16.
I am in the process of updating my Hboot by downloading and flashing the RUU as well as achieving S-OFF status
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You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose
LS.xD said:
You need to update hboot first
2.15 is most compatible i suppose
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Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.
fidodaj said:
Question. Is there a way for me to upgrade the hboot without the ruu wiping everything? Or will I just have to make a backup. I plan to go s-off before upgrading the hboot.
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If you're S-OFF ist possible I think
No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
The problems first could come from not being S-Off...this makes impossible to flash the kernel from recovery so any OTA that has a kernel is not flashed properly. I remember that 3.1.0 has also a full ROM ZIP, maybe is good if you flash that one from recovery and flash the kernel after that in fastboot. Also it could matter the recovery you're using, I would recommend latest TWRP
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Rapier said:
No, you don't need to update the hboot. I am on 1.06 and Viper works fine...in fact any ROM works fine for me but that's another story. The updated firmware (2.13 or 2.15) is required only for Android 4.4.x KitKat due to a check present in the updater-script. There's no such check nor requirement for previous Android versions and Viper 3.x is based on Android 4.2.2
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In the viper rom forum post it says ROM firmware required hboot 2.15/2.16.. Am I to j just ignore tha? Or is it that it is only required that hboot (2.15/2.16) if you are s-on and s-off can do whatever you like? Lol
You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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LS.xD said:
You need hboot 2.16 for Radio 1.20
And to Flash hboot 2.16 you will need S-OFF
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Actually I'm on hboot 2.15 with Radio 1.20.XX
I know this doesn't help... just saying..
To contribute smth. To get the most out of the Viper 3 Rom, everyone should upgrade their Radio to 1.20.XX. And this is actually why you need to S-OFF.
Hello I have supercid, s-off and previously flashed MAXIMUSHD ROM and that's on hboot 2.16 so I got board and sick of sense 5 and I want to try out one of the kitkat ROMs but I need hboot 2.15 for that and yes I know that there are hboot 2.16 kitkat roms but they are unstable so can someone tell me step by step how to downgrade hboot 2.16 to 2.15 because I'm quite of a dumb person
the_ziom said:
Hello I have supercid, s-off and previously flashed MAXIMUSHD ROM and that's on hboot 2.16 so I got board and sick of sense 5 and I want to try out one of the kitkat ROMs but I need hboot 2.15 for that and yes I know that there are hboot 2.16 kitkat roms but they are unstable so can someone tell me step by step how to downgrade hboot 2.16 to 2.15 because I'm quite of a dumb person
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This is how I proceed :
1) Downgrade to 2.15 hboot by flashing the old firmware (extract firmware.zip and flash as you did for MaximusHD)
2) Run the latest RUU to get everything clean (I flashed this one)
3) Flash custom recovery with fastboot (TWRP 2.3.X.X)
4) You're done !
benJX said:
This is how I proceed :
1) Downgrade to 2.15 hboot by flashing the old firmware (extract firmware.zip and flash as you did for MaximusHD)
2) Run the latest RUU to get everything clean (I flashed this one)
3) Flash custom recovery with fastboot (TWRP 2.3.X.X)
4) You're done !
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thank you but i have super cid and from what i have read i have to install the ruu according to my cid
tell me if im right
the_ziom said:
thank you but i have super cid and from what i have read i have to install the ruu according to my cid
tell me if im right
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In fact, the CID matters if you have one from an operator (have a look here, but not the last one, it's the superCID), in this case, you have to choose a RUU according to your operator.
But being superCID, you can run any RUU, so run the last generic one (see my link) and everything will be ok to start from official clean install. Of course you'll stay S-OFF after running the RUU.
The only thing requested is to be on 2.15 hboot, that's why you have to downgrade to older firmware in order to run this.
Hope it will help.
I have kind of a similar question. After moonshine S-OFF, I'm on modified moonshine HBOOT 2.15.4444. Now I want to go back to the stock HBOOT 2.15.0000. Do I just need to run the RUU to go back? I'm bootloader unlocked, CID T-MOB010, TWRP recovery, and I flashed radio 1.20. Do I need to flash radio back to match the RUU before I run it?
Thanks
dr3amsINdigital said:
I have kind of a similar question. After moonshine S-OFF, I'm on modified moonshine HBOOT 2.15.4444. Now I want to go back to the stock HBOOT 2.15.0000. Do I just need to run the RUU to go back? I'm bootloader unlocked, CID T-MOB010, TWRP recovery, and I flashed radio 1.20. Do I need to flash radio back to match the RUU before I run it?
Thanks
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Running an RUU is the safest option, although its a bit hit and miss getting the RUU to run correctly. Flashalot recently made a guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678700) if you run into any problems. I would try it without changing the radio, if it doesn't work then flash the matching one and go from there.
Now I cannot recommend this, as I have only tried it once myself and the consequences if it went wrong could mean a dead phone, but this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39216236&postcount=274) details how you can manually flash a hboot version in RUU mode since you are S-OFF. It comes from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777223. Use it at your own risk, there have been two incidents of bricks but it depends how lucky you are feeling!
rosswhite said:
Running an RUU is the safest option, although its a bit hit and miss getting the RUU to run correctly. Flashalot recently made a guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678700) if you run into any problems. I would try it without changing the radio, if it doesn't work then flash the matching one and go from there.
Now I cannot recommend this, as I have only tried it once myself and the consequences if it went wrong could mean a dead phone, but this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39216236&postcount=274) details how you can manually flash a hboot version in RUU mode since you are S-OFF. It comes from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777223. Use it at your own risk, there have been two incidents of bricks but it depends how lucky you are feeling!
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Yeah I heard about that method, but I thought it would be safer to just run the RUU even though it's more work. I think the bricks were from flashing the zips in recovery, not the new ones you flash in fastboot. Either way, I didn't feel like risking it.
Thanks! I'll try the RUU.
dr3amsINdigital said:
Yeah I heard about that method, but I thought it would be safer to just run the RUU even though it's more work. I think the bricks were from flashing the zips in recovery, not the new ones you flash in fastboot. Either way, I didn't feel like risking it.
Thanks! I'll try the RUU.
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Wise choice, yeah you are right, the bricks were when they were flashing the zips in recovery. Its actually pretty safe in RUU mode but what's the point of risking it.
benJX said:
In fact, the CID matters if you have one from an operator (have a look here, but not the last one, it's the superCID), in this case, you have to choose a RUU according to your operator.
But being superCID, you can run any RUU, so run the last generic one (see my link) and everything will be ok to start from official clean install. Of course you'll stay S-OFF after running the RUU.
The only thing requested is to be on 2.15 hboot, that's why you have to downgrade to older firmware in order to run this.
Hope it will help.
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dr3amsINdigital said:
I have kind of a similar question. After moonshine S-OFF, I'm on modified moonshine HBOOT 2.15.4444. Now I want to go back to the stock HBOOT 2.15.0000. Do I just need to run the RUU to go back? I'm bootloader unlocked, CID T-MOB010, TWRP recovery, and I flashed radio 1.20. Do I need to flash radio back to match the RUU before I run it?
Thanks
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rosswhite said:
Running an RUU is the safest option, although its a bit hit and miss getting the RUU to run correctly. Flashalot recently made a guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678700) if you run into any problems. I would try it without changing the radio, if it doesn't work then flash the matching one and go from there.
Now I cannot recommend this, as I have only tried it once myself and the consequences if it went wrong could mean a dead phone, but this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39216236&postcount=274) details how you can manually flash a hboot version in RUU mode since you are S-OFF. It comes from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777223. Use it at your own risk, there have been two incidents of bricks but it depends how lucky you are feeling!
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HELP my device does not see any memory and i cant flash any rom hellpp
the_ziom said:
HELP my device does not see any memory and i cant flash any rom hellpp
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What hboot are you on now? Did you run an RUU to downgrade?
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What hboot are you on now? Did you run an RUU to downgrade?
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Hboot 2.15 after running the |RUU.exe|
dont have the memory (does not see device when trying to side load , recovery cant mount sdcard)
help i need my phone
the_ziom said:
Hboot 2.15 after running the |RUU.exe|
dont have the memory (does not see device when trying to side load , recovery cant mount sdcard)
help i need my phone
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Which recovery did you flash? Try TWRP 2.7.0.0.
the_ziom said:
Hboot 2.15 after running the |RUU.exe|
dont have the memory (does not see device when trying to side load , recovery cant mount sdcard)
help i need my phone
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Can you boot on stock android rom installed by the ruu ?
rosswhite said:
Which recovery did you flash? Try TWRP 2.7.0.0.
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i already have twrp 2.7 and i flashed phillz and still nothing
benJX said:
Can you boot on stock android rom installed by the ruu ?
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yes but i formated my memory to instal a pac man rom
the_ziom said:
yes but i formated my memory to instal a pac man rom
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So actually you can confirm you are on HBOOT 2.15, Pihllz recovery and no rom installed ?
If yes reboot to bootloader, select clear storage, flash this recovery. Your sdcard should be mountable and let you install your rom.
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benJX said:
So actually you can confirm you are on HBOOT 2.15, Pihllz recovery and no rom installed ?
If yes reboot to bootloader, select clear storage, flash this recovery. Your sdcard should be mountable and let you install your rom.
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Another Problem
when ever i try to flash any rom it fails! and i dont know what to do HElp
So many developers and only 2 can help me
Please I'm begging for help
the_ziom said:
Another Problem
when ever i try to flash any rom it fails! and i dont know what to do HElp
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Flash stock recovery : http://loadbalancing.modaco.com/download.php?file=ville_recovery_signed.img
Then Clear Storage from bootloader and flash TWRP recovery
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor. Currently service provider is Koodo - a division of Telus (in Canada).
CID: ROGER001
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
arjundas86 said:
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor.
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
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Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
LS.xD said:
Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
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I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
arjundas86 said:
I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
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SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
LS.xD said:
SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
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Thanks for the toolkit.
cid: ROGER001
Btw, what's the purpose of going SuperCID?
Also, I don't want to install lower hboot. I am on hboot 1.08 and I think I need to install hboot 2.15. Right?
I guess S-OFF isn't absolutely necessary, but would be nice to have. Would you recommend using the S-OFF command from the toolkit you linked?
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
With superCID you can switch to other CIDs e.g. for unbranding your device Also it's needed for "Facepalm S-OFF" (Was the only working method for me)
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I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
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I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
arjundas86 said:
Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
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To run a RUU NOT MATCHING your stock CID you need S-OFF // SuperCID. You cant install TMobile RUU at first :/
I would act like this:
Run latest Rogers RUU --> READ FACEPALM GUIDE CAREFULLY. There is how to gain SuperCID and then S-OFF. Once done you can change CID to whatever you want and run a (unbranded) RUU with HBoot 2.15.
But that is just what i thought about it. I suggest to let someone else CONFIRM the way suggested by me first.
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
@Rapier
thank you for the provided help as usual
Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
LS.xD said:
...Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
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For you? NO. You're better than me
The story is like this. I bought the phone in 2012. At that time, the highest hboot was 1.14 I believe (don't remember exactly) and there was no S-Off method available (they appeared later). There was something else tho. The lower hboots (1.09 and lower) permitted to write in the kernel partition or radio partition like an S-Off device. HTC then covered this in the higher hboots. So even if there was no S-Off method, there was a downgrade method that was used to downgrade the hboot from whatever you had to 1.09 or below. I downgraded mine to 1.06...don't ask why I didn't choose 1.09, I thought that was the RUU I considered to be fine for me at that time.
Now being on hboot 1.06 I can do anything except I cannot flash firmwares directly. So I cannot flash a new hboot with red letters removed for example. But I don't care about this...I can flash radios or kernels or splash screens like any S-Off user. The procedure for getting latest firmware and S-Off seems a little bit risky and I've read about alot of issues or problems from people who failed or tried countless times to reach that. So I've asked myself why should I do that if I don't need it?
Then it came the rumor and there were some brick cases of devices that were having some Android 4.3 ROMs and were not on latest firmware (in the meantime 2.13 and 2.15 hboots arise and also the S-Off method). It proved to be not the firmware fault after all. But CM team has included a check in the updater script of the ROM ZIP, to validate if the hboot was 2.13 or 2.15...if not, the flash won't happen. It's a simple assert command present there at the beginning of the script that do the check. As CM team was the pioneer in having the newest Android version ROMs available, everybody based initially their ROMs/builds on CM...so the check in the script was automatically carried over to all the ROMs out there. And it's still here.
As I've tested and I could run fine those ROM's (by removing the check before flash), I noticed that this requirement does not apply to everyone. Some could run fine the ROMs even if they're not on the "latest" firmware.
So that's why I am on 1.06...cause I don't know why should I go through some risky procedures when I don't need to.
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Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
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I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
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WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
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I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
Just IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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Yes, you're right. That's what I meant. I will delete the updater-script lines that Rapier mentioned before trying to install CM11.
If it doesn't work, at least I can restore to my backup, without risk of bricking.
Then I can try the hboot update and s-off if required.
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444....
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want
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...I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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It's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
BUT, if you're NOT going to upgrade your firmware and you'll be lucky to have the ROM working, you won't need to S-Off since your current hboot is lower than 1.09 and allows you to flash radios and kernels directly from recovery.
And at this point, as you said, it worth a try like you are now and only if it's not working like this you should upgrade and do S-Off. I guess is much easier and less risky to remove 4 lines from that script and flash the ROM to see if it's working, than to go through the firmware upgrade & S-Off procedures
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't wantIt's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
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Hey Rapier,
I'm having trouble doing getting the zip signed.
I tried the zip signer you had in your guide, as well as a bunch of other zip signing programs, but none of them seem to do the job. I keep getting Error: Status 7.
Not getting bootloops or anything like that, so I was able to restore to my backup. No harm done.