Unused phone credit?? - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys. This is not specific to the z3 i guess but just wanted to ask here as i can't ask Vodafone. Let me explain why. Basically Vodafone have somehow mistakenly added credit to my phone to the amount of €300. No idea why or how this happened but it's been over 24 hours and it's still on the phone so it appears to be legit. However, iam already receiving free texts and calls so i can't use the credit lol it also can't be used in the Google play store which is a shame. Does anyone know if it's possible to use phone credit to make purchases online? If possible then root access would be required i imagine?

If Vodafone have added it as a credit then it will go on to your bill, basically you'll get like 10 months free assuming your line rental is €30 a month.
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maverick1103 said:
If Vodafone have added it as a credit then it will go on to your bill, basically you'll get like 10 months free assuming your line rental is €30 a month.
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Iam pay as you go and signed up for free texts etc The only thing i get charged for is calls and i barely make any to significantly use up much credit! If i could use the credit for the app store it would be awesome but even better if it could be used to shop online as i have quiet alot on the phone but i highely doubt it possible to shop online with unused credit ha

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Iam pay as you go and signed up for free texts etc The only thing i get charged for is calls and i barely make any to significantly use up much credit! If i could use the credit for the app store it would be awesome but even better if it could be used to shop online as i have quiet alot on the phone but i highely doubt it possible to shop online with unused credit ha
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In that case then I'm not sure. Ring Vodafone and ask for a refund, then you can do what you want!
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In that case then I'm not sure. Ring Vodafone and ask for a refund, then you can do what you want!
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lol They applied the credit mistakenly! I dont think bringing it to theyre attention is a good idea lol They have applied the equivalent of $400 lol ......... Now you see why i wish i could spend it online? haha

Blaalad12 said:
lol They applied the credit mistakenly! I dont think bringing it to theyre attention is a good idea lol They have applied the equivalent of $400 lol ......... Now you see why i wish i could spend it online? haha
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Why not be honest and call them?
Sorry but if it's their mistake then you should let then know about it.
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[Q] [Req] Free Lockscreen Replacement App

Could someone make a free alternative to WidgetLocker? Preferably for the Evo.
I'm kinda surprised there isn't a good one out there. Just wondering if anyone had the know-how and time to make one.
dude, you seriously can't afford two dollars to support the creator? I mean it takes these guys a decent amount of time to create these apps, and they put effort into responding to forum feedback...c'mon, skip your morning coffee and say 'thank you'.
Yeah, it's a few bucks. WidgetLocker is top notch, especially with all of the awesome themes out there. If you don't have a credit card, you can use a Visa gift card with the Market/Google Checkout. When you get the card, read the info and find the website used to register the card. When you register the card, make sure you put the correct information as it will need to match your shipping info linked to Google. Then go to buy the app, put the card info and shipping info in the form, and voila! You can now support developers!
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Yeah, its a wonderful app. So 2 dollar is reasonable and worth it
I agree. Developing an app takes time and dedication. I say, 2 dollars for an app that good is a very great.deal.
You can opt for simple lock screen. It's.in the market.
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I would but I have no way of paying for it since I'm errr.... only 16...
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I would but I have no way of paying for it since I'm errr.... only 16...
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Lol.. Nice excuse. My younger son just bought a piano with his own money (it was almost 800 euros). He's nine (9). Saved for few years. And no, I nor his mother paid none. All money was saved from bdays and xmases and for nice grades from school.
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darni said:
Lol.. Nice excuse. My younger son just bought a piano with his own money (it was almost 800 euros). He's nine (9). Saved for few years. And no, I nor his mother paid none. All money was saved from bdays and xmases and for nice grades from school.
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Winning!
I'm 16 too, and I asked my parents...
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No I have the money, but no way of paying for it like with a credit card.... I have a paypal, but Android doesn't accept that yet and there are any gift cards for it, soo....
Btw doesn't doesn't live with me and do not know my dad sooo, no parents..
Missed a post, I think I'll check out the visa cards and see if I can get one.
darni said:
Lol.. Nice excuse. My younger son just bought a piano with his own money (it was almost 800 euros). He's nine (9). Saved for few years. And no, I nor his mother paid none. All money was saved from bdays and xmases and for nice grades from school.
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I'm 16 as well and I bought my own phone but I am in the same spot as OP, no way to get stuff because parents wont let me use or get a card.
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Att monthly discounts

Hey guys I currently have an evo but this chubby guy is starting to show its age I'm really interested in the sexy infuse. I was just wondering if any of you guys knew of any ways to get monthly discounts through att. Its a bit more expensive than sprint. But I know there's usually certain loopholes you veterans know about
Thanks guys
LoveisPeace2012 said:
Hey guys I currently have an evo but this chubby guy is starting to show its age I'm really interested in the sexy infuse. I was just wondering if any of you guys knew of any ways to get monthly discounts through att. Its a bit more expensive than sprint. But I know there's usually certain loopholes you veterans know about
Thanks guys
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I am a sales rep for at&t... as far as i am aware, the only monthly discounts we do are business discounts. If you work for a company that has a business account with at&t for cell phones, as an employee of that company you can use their company monthly discount code on a personal line. It is called a FAN IRU Number.
- Dan
LoveisPeace2012 said:
Hey guys I currently have an evo but this chubby guy is starting to show its age I'm really interested in the sexy infuse. I was just wondering if any of you guys knew of any ways to get monthly discounts through att. Its a bit more expensive than sprint. But I know there's usually certain loopholes you veterans know about
Thanks guys
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Do a Google search you'll find what you need. I can tell you that the US Postal Service discount is 25% off service & data on primary line and 50% off all accessories.
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Do a Google search you'll find what you need. I can tell you that the US Postal Service discount is 25% off service & data on primary line and 50% off all accessories.
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Awesome thanks for the info bro I will do that
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AEDan1977 said:
I am a sales rep for at&t... as far as i am aware, the only monthly discounts we do are business discounts. If you work for a company that has a business account with at&t for cell phones, as an employee of that company you can use their company monthly discount code on a personal line. It is called a FAN IRU Number.
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Thanks Dan, yea my current company only gets discount through sprint or tmo. I will have to look up these fan numbers
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Do a Google search you'll find what you need. I can tell you that the US Postal Service discount is 25% off service & data on primary line and 50% off all accessories.
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Same for my employer. I thought someone said USPS was actually 30% on service (e.g. they have the best deal of anyone). I'm 25/50.
AT&T DOES verify that you work for who you say you do when you initially have a FAN applied to your account - so pulling out a random FAN isn't going to help you. However once a FAN is applied, you don't get checked from then on.
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Same for my employer. I thought someone said USPS was actually 30% on service (e.g. they have the best deal of anyone). I'm 25/50.
AT&T DOES verify that you work for who you say you do when you initially have a FAN applied to your account - so pulling out a random FAN isn't going to help you. However once a FAN is applied, you don't get checked from then on.
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Do you know how they verify exactly?
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Do you know how they verify exactly?
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Email.
10 Chars.
Entropy512 said:
Same for my employer. I thought someone said USPS was actually 30% on service (e.g. they have the best deal of anyone). I'm 25/50.
AT&T DOES verify that you work for who you say you do when you initially have a FAN applied to your account - so pulling out a random FAN isn't going to help you. However once a FAN is applied, you don't get checked from then on.
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I was told USPS used to be 30% but is no longer. As for checking .....
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Email.
10 Chars.
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Depends (not the diapers).
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Depends (not the diapers).
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What do you mean diapers
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Do you know how they verify exactly?
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In my case my employee ID badge worked.
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What do you mean diapers
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I said NOT the diapers.
I was trying to say you can get on a FAN account of your choosing WITHOUT having to verify anything. Google is your friend. Att Fan Discount YMMV.

SimplyElectronics.net (Any idea how I could recover my money)

Ok, I guess the story with SimplyElectronics is very well known so please let's not go into the discussion of why I didn't choose a trusted seller. I used them because like anybody else I found the HTC One X 200eu cheaper than in my country.
Anyway, to get into the point. I bought this phone from them and there was a problem with GPS so they agreed to give me full refund when I send it back to them. I sent it back but they kept the phone and never gave me refund. I started Paypal dispute but they fooled them that they have never received the phone although they told me they received it in good order. After Paypal closed the case in their favour, they told me that they will give no money and no phone back. They told me to go to Paypal to give me my money back.
My question here goes to British people. Do you know of any collection service in the UK, legal or illegal, I don't care, even if it's the mafia, that's fine with me, who can do the collection for me, either by forcibly getting the phone back from them or the money? I have no other option unfortunately so this is my last resort and better than nothing. I know that I can have this kind of 'service' here so most probably there must be something similar in the UK.
No relatives in the UK? If you have then it might be an option to use them to take this company to the small claims court. I think the limit is £500 but I stand to be corrected.
Where are they based?
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No relatives but even if I had, I don't want to involve anyone with my problems. I prefer to give half the value to the mafia and get the other half. At least here, it is the only option to get justice. Police and the law fail, lawyers and courts will cost much more.
There are no "mafia's" here... lol
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At least that's not what we call em
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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hungry81 said:
Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Yes it was signed for but unfortunately UK postal service don't update online tracking information so Paypal cannot verify the delivery and they denied to Paypal that they received it although they acknowledged delivery to me. The postal survey to prove that it was delivered takes 2 month by the British postal service and the authorities here depend on them for the info so they can't help them. After 2 months Paypal will not bother with me.
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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slking1989 said:
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Is that th same as royal mail? if yes, I've emailed them long time ago but they don't even reply. Even from the Postal service here they tried to call them directly and they didn't help. They said, please follow the protocols and file in your reports. Which take 2 months to complete. I know they could provide the info easily but they don't want to do it.
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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slking1989 said:
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks.
They are in Surrey.
Here is the full address:
Simplyelectronics Ltd
C/O MIQ Logistics UK Ltd
Unit 1, Alpha Way,
Thorpe Industrial Park
Egham, Surrey
TW20 8RZ
Do you have any idea how I could get written confirmation from Royal Mail that they have received it? But this has to be done within a week. Paypal told me I can appeal within 10 days if I get this report. I have 7 more days for this.
I will try calling them tomorrow morning then but I doubt they can provide written evidence. Maybe they just tell me that it has been received but I don't think they will give it written now. I will try though. Thanks for the suggestion.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Oh ok then sorry about that ignore my rant and good luck with getting some justice.
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slking1989 said:
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks again for droping the idea. I called them today and although it was very hard to get through (all options where going to dead end and automated messages only), I finally mamaged to randomly select an option and they guy there was so helpful, that he even emailed me the receipt showing the name and signature of the guy who received the package. Imagine that with the official procedure that would take 2 months.
I forwarded this to Paypal but I don't know if they will accept it now. As I said, I believe that they prefer to stay with their side so let's wait and see their excuse this time. Normally there should be an appeal option in the clain page but for me it's missing and they can't tell me the reason. I attached the pdf on dropbox and now I just hope they will see it and be willing to help.
I'll keep you updated and I'm buying beers if I succeed
Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Good news. Paypal has accepted the information and reopened the case allowing me to appeal. They made a mistake though and showed that the seller appealed instead of buyer. Technically thinking, that worries me again. I notified them and now wait with my fingers crossed.
If they just want to help the scammer they may come back with a bunch of excuses but since I am now in this path, I want to be optimistic.
Im sure they will back you up on this one. I dont they they will risk themselves being in **** over a duspute you WILL eventually win. If they dont accept your appeal they may well be getting themselves into trouble. Seeing as you have provided them with written proof. Im sure they will ask s.e to provide there proof of refund or return. Which they cannot do. So i imagine they have the same time period as you "10 days" to provide thier evidence. So i guess its just another waiting game before you get your money or phone
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Well chuffed for ya mate. Im no expert but im sure by this time next week the appeal will be resolved in your favour. As more often than not paypal will not reopen a case unless there was a strong chance of the appealer winning.
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Anyone work at AT&T?

I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
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Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm definitely not looking to make it a career, I just think it would be a good job during college. When I moved away for school I had to give up my old job where I made $14/hour at a country club.
deron37129 said:
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
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I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I was a sells rep for verizon and I was making 50,000 plus back in 08, 09. Its good money if you put in the work.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I highly doubt that's the case, I have a friend that's a Manager at a local retail location for T-Mobile living in CA and she barely hits the 40K a year mark. Unless he's a top ranking sales associate nationwide I doubt he makes over 60K a year, maybe 30K.

why was the money returned??

so i checked my bank account and the money that was spent for the nexus 5 was returned to my bank account?? what could be going on, it still says pending on the google page for my order.
Google put a pending transaction on the account to check funds are available and I believe it only lasts a couple of days before being removed.
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Google put a pending transaction on the account to check funds are available and I believe it only lasts a couple of days before being removed.
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lets hope thats what it is =( im really worried now. hoping it did not get canceled or anything like that.
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lets hope thats what it is =( im really worried now. hoping it did not get canceled or anything like that.
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You could always call and ask.
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You could always call and ask.
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im gonna do that, gonna give till the morning, hopefully it ships this morning.
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im gonna do that, gonna give till the morning, hopefully it ships this morning.
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positive thoughts :fingers-crossed:
Yep Google pre auth your card to ensure its a working card they ONLY debit your account once the phone is shipped. As such the money for the phone will sit on your account as an auth amount taking it off your available balance. When Google don't collect the money it becomes avail again. Once the phone ships they will debit your account again for the full amount again and collect the funds this is it will show on your account as a transaction you can see.
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Free Nexus 5?
I'm afraid that you have been determined to be unfit to acquire the nexus 5. Better luck next time.
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From a technical standpoint it's illegal in many states in the US to fully charge a customer for an item that has not shipped direct to them (meaning it's no longer in the possession of the retail seller). Not every company obeys that law as they should hence the concept of a pre-order payment status in some situations. Pretty sure that Google does the pre-authorization hold for the price of the devices they sell to ensure the money "is there" at least when the order is put in place so they aren't just holding a device for you - you might not actually be able to pay for it at that time, and if another customer is then why screw the other customer out of the potential purchase, for the most part.
See how that works?
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well good new everyone!! phone got shipped today!! and its looking like a got a free nexus haha! google is awesome, im sure they will charge me later.
HRodMusic said:
well good new everyone!! phone got shipped today!! and its looking like a got a free nexus haha! google is awesome, im sure they will charge me later.
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congrats man :highfive:

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