Gorilla glass or dragontail glass..? - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Thru out the years, I have had phone with gorilla glass and have had no screen protectors ever and have had no scratches ever! Now, I am carful as hell with my phones but my z2 I did the same as I usually do and I did get scratches. Front and back. My only guess is, this was because of the dragontail glass which is not as strong as gorilla glass when it comes to scratches. I do hope that sony went with gorilla glass this time. Anyone know for sure?
PS - I want to say that the Z3 is dragontail glass again as GSM arena spec site says "shatterproof glass" and it says gorilla glass 3 for other phones like the S5 and Note 4. The specs listed there for the Z3 for the screen protection say the same as the Z2. That sucks... ohwell, guess I need a crappy screen protector on this shinny NEW phone... sigh....

Raspster said:
Thru out the years, I have had phone with gorilla glass and have had no screen protectors ever and have had no scratches ever! Now, I am carful as hell with my phones but my z2 I did the same as I usually do and I did get scratches. Front and back. My only guess is, this was because of the dragontail glass which is not as strong as gorilla glass when it comes to scratches. I do hope that sony went with gorilla glass this time. Anyone know for sure?
PS - I want to say that the Z3 is dragontail glass again as GSM arena spec site says "shatterproof glass" and it says gorilla glass 3 for other phones like the S5 and Note 4. The specs listed there for the Z3 for the screen protection say the same as the Z2. That sucks... ohwell, guess I need a crappy screen protector on this shinny NEW phone... sigh....
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Get a Nilkin tempered glass screen protector if you really feel worried. I've ordered one. They feel as good, if not actually better than the glass on the phones anyway, and a drop means the screen protector breaks, not the screen.
Really recommend one.

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gorilla glass with screen protector?

Just wondering your thoughts.. For the Nexus S do you really need a Zagg since it comes with Gorilla Glass?
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xmattoxx said:
Just wondering your thoughts.. For the Nexus S do you really need a Zagg since it comes with Gorilla Glass?
thanks
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It does not come with Corning Gorilla Glass.
glmrckr said:
It does not come with Corning Gorilla Glass.
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this!
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Even though it doesn't have gorilla glass, the screen seems to be scratch resistant. I know because I don't use a screen protector.
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Same here, I don't use a screen protector and don't think I need one at this point. I've had my phone for months now, and its been through situations where scratches should be inevitable. The case has a few nicks around the edges, but there is only 1 tiny tiny hairline scratch going across the home button. Not noticeable, I only noticed it when looking at the slight wave of the glass right next to the lamp.
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Even though it suppose to be scratch proof, i would still recommend a screen protector.
For who are you saving the screen? To the next owner? Doesn't it look ugly with the screen protector? I have never understand these. I use my phones usually 6-12months. I have got twice a tiny, tiny hair scratch to the screen. One was Gorilla glass (I think it's soooo over hyped), other one just scratch resistant. For my htc hero I never got a scratch in 6 months... I wonder how you treat your phones...
So no I don't use a screen protector, not after Nokia 5800XM which had a plastic screen. And even with that I got bored to the protector and rip it off after few week...
JuWa said:
For who are you saving the screen? To the next owner? Doesn't it look ugly with the screen protector? I have never understand these. I use my phones usually 6-12months. I have got twice a tiny, tiny hair scratch to the screen. One was Gorilla glass (I think it's soooo over hyped), other one just scratch resistant. For my htc hero I never got a scratch in 6 months... I wonder how you treat your phones...
So no I don't use a screen protector, not after Nokia 5800XM which had a plastic screen. And even with that I got bored to the protector and rip it off after few week...
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i like to keep it scratch free.cuz im like that.
but even if the next adopt of my phone would have a scratch free nexus s
it still means more money than a scratched one.
though im keeping my android phone's(for development for example)
unless i really need the money

Glass Screen Questions

Hi! I am strongly considering the Skyrocket but I've always enjoyed the extra protection of Gorilla Glass screens. Any reason why they decided on glass screens for this model? And how is the screen holding up from day to day wear?
Thanks...
I'm confused by your post, are you asking why they decided on gorilla glass on this model? Cause you clearly said that you "enjoyed the extra protection of Gorilla Glass". If you want to know does it have gorilla glass, yes it does. And its holding up very well I use mine with no screen protector. Third phone i've had with Gorilla Glass and havent scratched one yet. Not to say that they cant be scratched, I just havent scratched one of mine.
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I'm confused by your post, are you asking why they decided on gorilla glass on this model? Cause you clearly said that you "enjoyed the extra protection of Gorilla Glass". If you want to know does it have gorilla glass, yes it does. And its holding up very well I use mine with no screen protector. Third phone i've had with Gorilla Glass and havent scratched one yet. Not to say that they cant be scratched, I just havent scratched one of mine.
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Sorry for the confusion. I've read a few reviews that this phone does NOT have Gorilla Glass, so that is why I asked. So if you say it does, then I am sold on it.
This is where I saw one of the reviews that said no Gorilla Glass and it shows scratches (around the 1:35 mark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZfFwTlYQM&feature=related
garak0410 said:
This is where I saw one of the reviews that said no Gorilla Glass and it shows scratches (around the 1:35 mark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZfFwTlYQM&feature=related
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From all the reviews I've read, PhoneArena is the ONLY publication that has said the SR doesn't have Gorilla Glass. It actually does. They probably just got a bad sample or something.
Thanks for all of the info...strongly considering this phone but have been tempted to try Windows Phone 7, in the form of HTC Titan too...
Some people seem to be confused about Gorilla glass too. From my understanding gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. So you still can end up scratching it.
garak0410 said:
Hi! I am strongly considering the Skyrocket but I've always enjoyed the extra protection of Gorilla Glass screens. Any reason why they decided on glass screens for this model? And how is the screen holding up from day to day wear?
Thanks...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI
This may help you find the answer you seek.
Gorilla Glass... scratches.
It's just difficult to break.
Just ordered two of 'em!
I think that video has been debunked. I have read somewhere that they actually scratched the screen themselves before putting it on the ground. Some of the comments for the video you linked specifically points out things like "something in his left hand" and "swiping his hand across the screen before sliding it on the ground".
Now, I'm not saying gorilla glass is indestructible, I think most people are aware that gorilla glass CAN be scratched under certain circumstances but I don't think it's as easy as they portray in that video.
dabeej said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI
This may help you find the answer you seek.
Gorilla Glass... scratches.
It's just difficult to break.
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so much for gorilla glass .. scratched screen

probably something my 8yo daughter did.
it's small -- only a couple of mm, but it's there.
hell, i watched that youtube of the guy dragging a nail across his TF.
this wasn't supposed to happen, right?
anybody else got scratches?
can u post a pix of the scractch if possible?
Gorilla glass isn't supposed to be scratch-proof.
it decreases cracking from dropping not scratches sheesh what do you think it is made of diamond? get a zagg screen protector and your screen will never scratch again
psxpetey said:
it decreases cracking from dropping not scratches sheesh what do you think it is made of diamond? get a zagg screen protector and your screen will never scratch again
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It's not about strength - it is about being scratch resistant. That said, it's not scratch-proof - nothing is. Basically, if you've got a tiny scratch then it would be a large scratch if it weren't gorilla glass. You can still scratch it, but it's harder to do. Apparently sand is a big culprit.
gorilla glass is not scratch-proof, its only drop-proof (cracks)
Sand will scratch gorilla glass really easy.
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ive got a scratch on mine i think sand was the cause
Dumb question maybe but surely most people use screen protectors to prevent scratches even with gorilla glass?
Gorilla glass can be scratched but its pretty good though I would never leave it unprotected for the reason it is scratchable.
Dave
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I also have a very small scratch in my glass
After some time you completly ignore it and dont regard it.
i'm sorry. i can't post a pic of my scratch as i've now put a protector on the screen, which renders it completely invisible. i know! horse after cart.
this is the 2nd protector i tried; the first, a matte one, i didn't like, as it dulled the display too much. the one i have now, which shows fingerprints somewhat (not as bad as without) and causes reflections, is pretty much indistinguishable from no protector at all. very happy.
i'd recommend everybody now to get a screen protector on their TF. don't rely on the gorilla glass.
I was just talking to a friend with his Nexus Galaxy the other day. He saw my phone, SET4G the SET4G, and said he wished he had Gorilla Glass, as he had gotten a scratch, and put a screen protector on his.
Mine didn't have any scratches......... at the time, and I said, watch, I'll get a scratch now.
I got a long scratch, very light, that I noticed the other day. Plus some tiny scratches.
I don't play in the Sandbox, so I have no idea how they got there.
May have been there before, but I didn't notice. But maybe not, as I notice everything
They are very unnoticeable, but I ordered a Steinheil Crystal screen protector to slap on it.
2 to a pack for $13.99 cause I usually screw up the first install
I've read that Corning is coming out with another type of glass to supercede Gorilla Glass. I believe it's called Lotus Glass it may be available already, and may be installed on some upcoming smartphones, so I've read) and Japan already has a scratch resistant glass, I believe called Ashai? Glass.
I think Gorilla Glass has a Hardness of 7 on the Mohs Hardness scale.
The problem is that Quartz also has a Hardness of 7,which can be found in sand, as well as dust particles.

S6's gorilla glass 4 - is it really shatter proof?

A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.
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A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
Japultra said:
AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM
All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.
no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
frankgreimes said:
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
xxaarraa said:
I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone
i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE
The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.
bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....
We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.
Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...

Gorilla glass version on the back of the phone.

Preface: I used my phone for 3 weeks now and I already got 2 small scratches on the front, and I made sure to put it in the where I didn't have anything else. It came as a shock to me since I used my M8 for 4 years with not one scratch on the display. Turns out, gorilla glass 5 is not that good and really scratch prone (M8 had GG3 which was harder apparently) and it's the same with all GG5 phones.
Does anyone know what version (if any) of GG is the glass on the back of the phone? I found info that it's GG3 on regular U11. It's a shame that i have to put this beautiful phone in TPU case, not to mention that glass feels really great in hand.
Corning f-ed up big time with GG5.

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