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I was on an Xperia L fan page on FB & noticed a post mentioning that the Xperia L had a special type of glass. I did some research & checked the white paper & discovered that the L has "Schott 2nd source" glass which turns out to be darn good stuff. Schott is a German company which provides various products/services including toughened glass overlay. It is often competing with Corning to provide better product e.g. the toughened glass. Things like this just make me love my Xperia L even more .
Just thought it would be informative to share this because from my xperience (get it? :laugh: ) Sony (Ericsson) often only mention scratch-resistant glass in many Xperia white papers.
Yea sony always provide good hardware for reasonable prices regarding other manufactorers but u got to admit that sony is kinda unfair when it comes to software..like firmwares updates..
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Yea sony always provide good hardware for reasonable prices regarding other manufactorers but u got to admit that sony is kinda unfair when it comes to software..like firmwares updates..
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If Sony's unfair...how's samsung?lg?
And about glass quality...yes,it might be resistant,but it's not as responsive and sensitive as other phones like galaxy express for example.
And you can't say that you can use XL w/o a screen protector in order to get better response from touch because of tough screen,because little scratches will always appear...
i dont have 2-3 weeks any screen protector, 0 scratches i had it less than weekend cuz it simply started to look ugly. i have second one but simply i dont know how to put it in, and mt yeah works better withought it it may be me that im "different"
the glass in xperia l is amazing.i did some test by trying to scratch it with srewdriver,scissor,blade,stones,etc bt no scratch bt the problem is that it will b very hard to use xl in sunlight as it reflects a lot of light.cant c a thing when playing games in sunlight without screen protector
Like in thread, write here what u expect from the Xperia M succesor, and do the things we already know about her (resolution,processor etc.) fit ur bill.
Soooo, let me be first.
On paper she looks quite nice, if she will be cheap enough (up to 300 dollars) im in.
Only thing that im worried about is her screen. I dont want to see xperiaSP quality screen here. This will be low/mid end device, and i shouldnt want too many from it, but still. I think that if sony will do quite good optimalization for it and they will give to her good screen (good, i dont need super mega hiper OMG screen) she will be good option to buy. Dont forget that now her biggest oponent is Moto G which has super performance, nice screen and she is quite cheap, so it will be nice challenge for M2.
Will it be a nice and dev-friendly phone? Write below
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Isn't every phone is?
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Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Soryyy, in my lang "xperia" word sounds like a girl
No coz shes price at over 20k
Probably not
It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
Press thanks :good: if I've helped :highfive:
What made me consider this brand in first place was having a Sony SW2, and pairing with a Sony handset allows me to use all the features of it, but when i read the spec sheet and found that between other things these handsets are the ones that have ANT+ connectivity that made my day. And €245 in Europe is a reasonably price for a Dual Handset.
I've been reading nearly everywhere that this phone has very low calling volume.
Is this true? Have many users experienced this problem??
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Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
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Sure the price per feature is much lower there.
If you hold both phones in your hands the difference in build quality is glaring.
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It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
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I got an M2, despite of being exactly the same opinion. It came with my contract. Lucky, I can report the M2 is quite ok in terms of battery life.
Here is my initial impression:
- acceptable battery
- screen is big but has lower end resolution
- light leaching on black
- relatively dim screen at factory setting, but still very well readable
- glossy housing is a PITA
- reactively heavy
- not nice form factor (as previous curved Xperias)
- not water resistant
- boot up animation is something for kids
- speaker sound is not as good as others
- sound could be louder overall
- loads of bloatware
- card slot cover flimsy, I am counting the days for it to drop off
- main button well articulated and easy to reach at the right location
- volume button to small and should be above the main button
- the nice LED on the bottom does not work, respectively I see it only working when changing the themes ... ?
Would it be so hard for companies to equippe phones with a rubber outside frame for basic drop protection? Why construct everything "throw away" style?
The volume buttons is in the same position as the Z2. If you look at Z2's power button you will be surprise at how convenient M2's power button is. The LED at the bottom also glows when switching songs in Walkman
After 4 days of usage
I found the biggest M2 annoyance is the greenish screen tint. The second biggest annoyance is the light sensor implementation. There is screen brightness pumping. I installed YAAB to correct that. I hope Sony can correct this with a software update (?).
LED at the bottom should be modded to be useful.
Glossy surface is also an annoyance. I ordered a rubber case.
Speaker opening at the bottom is exactly at the spot which I use to position my small finger to support the phone. Seal is perfect. That might be the reason why some people say sound being quiet.
The rest is quite ok. I
The screen tint and light sensor, all true. Also the camera, I often get yellowish shots ( maybe the firmware is the problem, reported to sony forum )
About LED, I agree with you that it should be modded to be of better use
I don't find the glossy back annoying at all
I am right now confussed B/W Xperia m2 and Htc Desire 700.Can you tell me from your experience about this phone Biggest Pros and Cons
By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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Close to three days if I only use for mail, messenging, calls, and the occasional website.
Still close to 48 h with frequent navigation use.
That's certainly not bad compared to most other phones, but target should be 5 - 7 days.
The screen uses astonishing low power. This phone is sure good for travellers. The greenish screen tint gets unnoticed after a while, the camera is reasonable, 4.3 is not good.
I got an Xperia M2 yesterday, and I'm loving it. yes I do have the same sort of greenish/yellow screen tint, but I actually prefer this color reproduction to the harsh blue-tinted display of the original XM. The camera is also a massive improvement from the XM, and the device is quite more responsive. 10/10 worth it
Got mine a fewer days. I already have newer ones Xperia like Z1 and ZQ; a model made from Z1 to Brazil. The M2 at the first moment seems a compact Z2, like the design, the place where buttons are. Weight is good for the size, also it is thin. I think Sony could do a 5inch screen cause there are too much bars arounding the lcd or if they cut, made more a compact device, like they did with ZQ, made it perfect and confortable. The LCD quality is ok, nothing really to be glad like others Xperia but for a mid from Sony i expected more ppi, it has almost less 100 compared to Moto G. Also the glass i didnt like, keeps too easy dust and fingers prints and it isnt too easy to clean. Camera resolution is awful, i wont comment about the VGA cause dont worth it, so i couldn believe that Sony done that, even that old mobiles like Xperia ARC, X10, they have a much better cam. Really dont understand why Sony made such a dummbie phone. Now, the surprise is that came with and old 4.3 JB in times that we are already in 4.4.4 versions. The CPU is good, felt some laggys, nothing really bad but for a quad should make better operations. Volume sound is poor, even with headset, like the equalizer and the multiple options but unfortunatly these couldnt make sounds better. Finally battery isnt nothing especial, mine is with almost 18hours of good usage before a make a new charge cycle. Anyway, my opinions are based that already have the Moto G, a trully competitor and that made really good impressions.
Just wondering if the Z3 is like the previous phones. Not sure if Z2 does this too as I have only used Z and Z1s.
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Just wondering if the Z3 is like the previous phones. Not sure if Z2 does this too as I have only used Z and Z1s.
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Yep sure does until they dry out, which if you use a towel and soak up some of the water, is a couple of min at most.
Hello everyone,
I came from a Z1, the mic started malfunctioning and I could only be when using handsfree on it.
So I ordered a Z3 from my carrier, got it shipped by mail. When I received it, the SIM/SD card flap wouldn't close properly, so I phoned customer service and got a replacement Z3 mailed to me. The next one I got (received it 3 days ago) looked fine, until today when I took it out of my front pocket. I heard a poping sound, I had earphones plugged into it. I could see the back glass starting to come off. I'd say whole top left 1/4 of the phone is not glued on anymore.
I really liked the Z1 and the Z3 as well as features and look go, but I am now getting unsure about getting this phone. Am I just unlucky and got two poorly built units, or are they mostly all bad?
JF
You're not the only one, no. My sister bought a Z3 and the left side of the back panel (looking at the back) is not properly attached either, and is flexed outwards. After a small amount of use its to the point now where it is sort of flapping about and she needs to use a case.
My girlfriends Z3 went into a small amount of fresh water to take one picture and moments later the screen went black and died completely. After a few minutes googling i found many other people having the same issues with the Z3's.
Just bad luck bud, get it exchanged while you can. Carriers can be real douche after 7 days or whatever depending your location.
Nothing wrong with my z3 even though its second hand. *fingers crossed*
Just got my 3rd Z3, this one the flaps look fine, the back glass seems glued correctly and it passes the pressure test... The downside is, the box was sealed when I got it, but it was missing the screen protectors. Oh well... just my luck. I'll peel off the ones from the previous one before I ship it back, until I order some new ones.
JF
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Just got my 3rd Z3, this one the flaps look fine, the back glass seems glued correctly and it passes the pressure test... The downside is, the box was sealed when I got it, but it was missing the screen protectors. Oh well... just my luck. I'll peel off the ones from the previous one before I ship it back, until I order some new ones.
JF
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Xperia Z3 dosent come with screen protectors, so this is not a flaw.
Also you was just unlucky. I bought mine one month ago, i hadnt a single problem with it so far.
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Xperia Z3 dosent come with screen protectors, so this is not a flaw.
Also you was just unlucky. I bought mine one month ago, i hadnt a single problem with it so far.
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Yes it does.
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Yes it does.
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Then its market depend, here in Croatia i know many cases that Z3 dosent have screen protector, even mine dont have.
Also many cases on internet i readed.
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Then its market depend, here in Croatia i know many cases that Z3 dosent have screen protector, even mine dont have.
Also many cases on internet i readed.
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It may be.
The first two Z3's I got had screen protectors included in the box. The last one didn't...
Anyway, the last Z3 will go back as it is no longer working. Over the weekend, I was at a friend's batchelor party and we were doing indoor surfing. I was filming him from aside and the phone took a few water splashes, and the display started flickering and died within a few minutes. I am terribly dissapointed in this phone. I really enjoyed my Z1, with all it's glitches and freezing. The Z3's performance was great, it seems it's just the build quality. I had bough my wife a Z3 a few months ago, as she likes water sports and she liked how I could use my Z1 at the beach/lake, but now she is scared of even getting some rain on her's, and we can't return it for another one since we're over the buyer's remorse period.
It's a shame there are no other waterproof phones out there (besides Samsungs).
JF
brockolicosmique said:
The first two Z3's I got had screen protectors included in the box. The last one didn't...
Anyway, the last Z3 will go back as it is no longer working. Over the weekend, I was at a friend's batchelor party and we were doing indoor surfing. I was filming him from aside and the phone took a few water splashes, and the display started flickering and died within a few minutes. I am terribly dissapointed in this phone. I really enjoyed my Z1, with all it's glitches and freezing. The Z3's performance was great, it seems it's just the build quality. I had bough my wife a Z3 a few months ago, as she likes water sports and she liked how I could use my Z1 at the beach/lake, but now she is scared of even getting some rain on her's, and we can't return it for another one since we're over the buyer's remorse period.
It's a shame there are no other waterproof phones out there (besides Samsungs).
JF
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Buy SAMSUNG and do with that indoor surfing.
Now that's some really bad luck. I heard the Z3 is less than perfect when it comes to build quality but this is just insane. Mine works well and is waterproof but has a dead pixel (I think it's covered under warranty but I don't feel like going to the service center). I hope you get one that works. Other than that if you want something with less than flagship specs there are plenty of rugged phones to choose from. Buy one of those for watersports and buy a different flagship for daily use. I heard the Samsung S6 is supposed to be pretty good.
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Now that's some really bad luck. I heard the Z3 is less than perfect when it comes to build quality but this is just insane. Mine works well and is waterproof but has a dead pixel (I think it's covered under warranty but I don't feel like going to the service center). I hope you get one that works. Other than that if you want something with less than flagship specs there are plenty of rugged phones to choose from. Buy one of those for watersports and buy a different flagship for daily use. I heard the Samsung S6 is supposed to be pretty good.
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Go and buy S6, we don' t care about how good it is.
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Go and buy S6, we don' t care about how good it is.
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Chill, I was just giving OP my point of view. He seems to be very disappointed with Sony but he wants a waterproof phone, his best option is to buy a rugged phone for watery outdoors and a different flagship for daily dry use. I like my Z3 more than the S6, but if my Z3 were to suddenly explode and make me get buyer's remorse I would most likely buy the S6 which is the second best phone on the market after Z3 imo.
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Chill, I was just giving OP my point of view. He seems to be very disappointed with Sony but he wants a waterproof phone, his best option is to buy a rugged phone for watery outdoors and a different flagship for daily dry use. I like my Z3 more than the S6, but if my Z3 were to suddenly explode and make me get buyer's remorse I would most likely buy the S6 which is the second best phone on the market after Z3 imo.
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Ok, no problem.
I think I'll keep the Z1 around for watersports. It still runs fine, the only problem is the mic is busted on it. I was thinking of using it with a sports band to put on my forearm and use as a GPS while riding my motorcycle. I'll just get a regular, non-waterproof phone instead.
I've had a Galaxy S4 in the past. The hardware is great, but I don't like the UI and all the software they load it with. I might look into the M9, since it seems like the one of the last ones with SD card support. Anyone has comments on it?
JF
Today while I was checking Facebook, my G Flex suddenly went off. Don't worry because that happened to me about 4 times a week. But this time, it was different, the phone didn't turn on again, not even connecting it to the power outlet. Apart from that, it was on its third battery purchased, as many will know, it always failed.
Now I kept thinking about the beautiful and horrible moments that this phone brought me. So many headaches from the stagnant LG system in Lollipop and with that disgusting layer of customization, added to the impossibility of unlocking the bootloader and the problem of super overheating of the Snapdragon 810 that even with retouched interactive governors could avoid it.
But at the same time great things like 24-bit audio support (It was wonderful to hear music on it.), a good rear camera with optical stabilization, the fact that this phone could be said to be "competitive" in terms of power today (obviously not taking into account overheating) and, most importantly, the CURVE SCREEN.
I'll miss this phone, probably buy a Galaxy S8, or a Moto Z2 Force, but something is sure.
I WILL NEVER BUY AGAIN AN LG IN MY LIFE.
My phone died too. It has the same symptoms. What I would like to buy is either OnePlus 5 or LG G6, but more towards the 1+.
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Today while I was checking Facebook, my G Flex suddenly went off. Don't worry because that happened to me about 4 times a week. But this time, it was different, the phone didn't turn on again, not even connecting it to the power outlet. Apart from that, it was on its third battery purchased, as many will know, it always failed.
Now I kept thinking about the beautiful and horrible moments that this phone brought me. So many headaches from the stagnant LG system in Lollipop and with that disgusting layer of customization, added to the impossibility of unlocking the bootloader and the problem of super overheating of the Snapdragon 810 that even with retouched interactive governors could avoid it.
But at the same time great things like 24-bit audio support (It was wonderful to hear music on it.), a good rear camera with optical stabilization, the fact that this phone could be said to be "competitive" in terms of power today (obviously not taking into account overheating) and, most importantly, the CURVE SCREEN.
I'll miss this phone, probably buy a Galaxy S8, or a Moto Z2 Force, but something is sure.
I WILL NEVER BUY AN LG IN MY LIFE.
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I may be in the majority when I say this, but I miss the old designs of phones. The plastic design of the LG Flex 2 and LG G4 was perfectly fine by me. Now they make the phones out of delicate aluminum that is so slippery. The plastic phones can take more drops and hit than the aluminum ones can today.
I have mine rooted on the most recent image. How did you manage the overheating issue ? I'll admit the thing still has sentimental value to me lol.
My Flex2 died too. It was pretty good phone but what mostly I liked about it was, of course, the curve! That was so ergonomic, very comfortable to use and also to have in your pocket. That enabled 5.5" screen to manage with no hassle.
On the other hand the screen was pixelated (especially on low brightness), camera had no manual settings (except like on/off for HDR or flash, lol). SOT was barely acceptable, sometimes not even 4 ours. 2/16 GB were also very very limiting, not enough internal memory for apps, always forcing you to chose them carefully. Oh, I almost forgot - "self healing" battery cover. All it did for me was collected micro scratches from nowhere. Very unpleasant view to the careful phone owner.
What's next? Maybe G6, who knows.
For me LG share the blame with Qualcomm for this phone. The first version of the SD810 always overheated and was probably at fault for many of the hardware issues that users have suffered over the years. LG should have provided 3GB RAM on all versions to fully exploit the high end SoC. LG's software support for a flagship was also poor.
On the other hand, it was a beautiful piece of hardware. I really liked the screen and the curve felt excellent in the hand. The red back on some versions was much nicer than the grey of the H950.
So like others, I'm torn.
Second time this same problem happened to me also . I thought it was a rare occurrence; but today, my 2nd G Flex 2 died, just 5 months after my other one. Symptoms are the same as yours. Heat gunning the chips under the shields on the motherboard did nothing. Not sure if to get an LG phone next anymore...
My G Flex 2 also died and LG Support says they dont have the needed replacement parts and instead offered me to get an LG Q6 as replacement which feels like being ripped off.
Disassemble the phone and place the motherboard onto a piece of aluminum foil and bake it at 300°f for 8 minutes. Then letting it stand in the oven with the door open for a half hour. This generation of LG phones used bad solder compounds. Remelting them fixes them back to working order. Reassemble and enjoy.
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Disassemble the phone and place the motherboard onto a piece of aluminum foil and bake it at 300°f for 8 minutes. Then letting it stand in the oven with the door open for a half hour. This generation of LG phones used bad solder compounds. Remelting them fixes them back to working order. Reassemble and enjoy.
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I'd rather the phone stayed in my smartphone cemetery. The S8 is already part of my life.
I'll fix it if you send it to me.
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Disassemble the phone and place the motherboard onto a piece of aluminum foil and bake it at 300°f for 8 minutes. Then letting it stand in the oven with the door open for a half hour. This generation of LG phones used bad solder compounds. Remelting them fixes them back to working order. Reassemble and enjoy.
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What's the worst that could happen with this method? I'm nearly convinced to try this, although I still want to get the data off the EMMC chip.
My Flex 2 is still alive and well, about a year after I bought it. It heats up, slows down, is laggy, too bright in the dark and dim outside. Battery, seems to have improved over time, however, occasionally something will drain it in no time. Can't quite figure out what it is. Sometimes I get random restarts and weird behavior, but not on a daily basis. Perhaps once every week or two. Because it's too bright in the dark I use a dimming app, when dimmed you can noticably see that large areas of the screen (roughly half) have a sort of dark stain. This has been there since day 1. On MM stock.
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What's the worst that could happen with this method? I'm nearly convinced to try this, although I still want to get the data off the EMMC chip.
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Worst thing is that you bump it while it's still hot and ruin the board. Don't try and rush things. I'll fix it for you if you don't want to do it. I'm in the metro Detroit area though.
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Worst thing is that you bump it while it's still hot and ruin the board. Don't try and rush things. I'll fix it for you if you don't want to do it. I'm in the metro Detroit area though.
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Does this really works?/? i May try this tonite when i get off
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Disassemble the phone and place the motherboard onto a piece of aluminum foil and bake it at 300°f for 8 minutes. Then letting it stand in the oven with the door open for a half hour. This generation of LG phones used bad solder compounds. Remelting them fixes them back to working order. Reassemble and enjoy.
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Am going to try this... Mines boot but loop from there
This will not fix software problems, only hardware. Just so you are aware.
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Does this really works?/? i May try this tonite when i get off
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Am going to try this... Mines boot but loop from there
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I'm on lollipop, and I notice the same lag as you. I think it has to do with how the Kernal and driver's use the available cores. This might have 8 of them, but they are vastly different. Some are fast, some, not so much. There are init d scripts that can help. I'm on the 3gb variant, and that helps as well. Hopefully we can find a bootloader bypass or an unlock, it would make this phone so much better. It's almost a mid ranged current phone. It's aged well. Let's hope something soon happens.
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My Flex 2 is still alive and well, about a year after I bought it. It heats up, slows down, is laggy, too bright in the dark and dim outside. Battery, seems to have improved over time, however, occasionally something will drain it in no time. Can't quite figure out what it is. Sometimes I get random restarts and weird behavior, but not on a daily basis. Perhaps once every week or two. Because it's too bright in the dark I use a dimming app, when dimmed you can noticably see that large areas of the screen (roughly half) have a sort of dark stain. This has been there since day 1. On MM stock.
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I'm on lollipop, and I notice the same lag as you. I think it has to do with how the Kernal and driver's use the available cores. This might have 8 of them, but they are vastly different. Some are fast, some, not so much. There are init d scripts that can help. I'm on the 3gb variant, and that helps as well. Hopefully we can find a bootloader bypass or an unlock, it would make this phone so much better. It's almost a mid ranged current phone. It's aged well. Let's hope something soon happens.
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LG told me it was a hardware issue..I haven't tried...been at work lately..I will try and report my findings
I just got a V20 used, and I miss my Flex2 already. The curve was brilliant, and I feel like I'm carrying a brick around with a straight phone
LG, will you PLEASE setup a bootloader unlock for this? I don't see why they don't, considering there's no official support for this phone, and even the carries don't care at this point.
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LG told me it was a hardware issue..I haven't tried...been at work lately..I will try and report my findings
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How is it working?
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How is it working?
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Haven't even taking apart yet...wrk has me at the balls...off day tomorrow will dig into them
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Haven't even taking apart yet...wrk has me at the balls...off day tomorrow will dig into them
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As stated though, if you don't feel right about it, I'm in the metro Detroit area. If you're close by, I could do it for you this Saturday.