So who's picking up the iPhone 6 Plus ? it's a 5.5inch display it looks bad-ass it sounds like a perfect replacement for the Galaxy Note 3 ?
Not even for galaxy note 3,lol still falls behind it by meters lol ?
I watched a small part of the Apple show and I must give it to them: these guys know marketing, nothing special but they sell it as if they reinvented the wheel ?
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Tonio78370 said:
I watched a small part of the Apple show and I must give it to them: these guys know marketing, nothing special but they sell it as if they reinvented the wheel ?
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You mean
"next gen retina display"
(last year's 1080p lcd) and
"a new a8 processor up to 84x faster"
(than the 7 years old original iPhone)
is just marketing for iSheeps and nothing more? [emoji1]
Putting the jokes aside, this new iPhones are basically at the s3 and note2 level from 2 years ago... [emoji11]
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You mean "next gen retina display" (last year's 1080p lcd) and performances up to 84 faster than the 7 years old original iPhone is just marketing for iSheeps and nothing more? [emoji1]
Putting the jokes aside, this new iPhones are basically at the s3 level from 2 years ago... [emoji11]
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That's why I say they're champs. There are people in front of an Apple store since end of August to buy this crap while paying a fortune, incredible [emoji15]
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Sorry is this the new iphone? Where does this fit in on xda? Not here....I know that for sure. They still have the audacity to charge £700 when they have changed nothing compared to last years model! Ridiculous.
iPhone 6 Plus?
Oh, you mean a refurbished Note 2...
Nothing new in the iphone
We had nfc,larger screens health sensors way before way before apple
And no 32 gb option ? Seriously what was apple thinking ?
Apple = America's richest company = still selling yeaterdays technology
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Nothing new in the iphone
We had nfc,larger screens health sensors way before way before apple
And no 32 gb option ? Seriously what was apple thinking ?
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At least they are good at selling stuff. Cause with these specs I would rather go back to my note 2 collecting dust in the closet. They really know how to sell their icrap.
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Wow dude you really put me off the iPhone 6 Plus.. There was me thinking i'm going to pick it up and get rid of the Note 3 Seems like ill be getting the note 4
Genuinely debating it. Note 4 doesn't fix any of the issues I have with the Note 3, and while nice, is not a hugely compelling upgrade.
Note 4 does support category 6 LTE with carrier aggregation, as opposed to cat4 w/carrier aggregation in the 6 plus - that, the smaller screen, and the lack of stylus are about my only hangups at this point. If the battery life is as claimed I'll likely pull the trigger regardless.
Even if the iPhone 6 Plus had all the features of the Note 3 and it does not.
Have you seen the spec?? for battery life on the iPhone 6 Plus.... 10 hours big deal.
You know how expensive an iPhone Plus 128Gig be?
Bet you will be able to buy a Note 4 edge, 128Gig SD card and still have saved hundreds of dollars.
I like Android and can not see me going back to iOS I would lose too much.
Me I want to see the next Nexus device, sick of waiting for Samsung to upgrade to the latest Android release but iPhone 6 Plus never.
+1, one thing I don't understand, why Samsung not able to give world ? wide update to all devices, which apple is able to do, many people screwed there phone because of running behind update, my samsung tab never received a single update in my country U.A.E, yes we knew flash threw Odin but there's many people spend their money & not able to enjoy there device with what they deserve.
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Just a wild guess, but from the specs iphone has somewhere around 20 LTE bands, so it probably covers whole world, therefore hardware is probably the same everywhere, where Samsung has different radios (and other stuff like exynos/qualcom) for different regions, so it needs to have different firmware. Don't ask me why, possibly region lock would suggest marketing strategy, more than anything else. Also, in US at least, the carriers have to test the firmware and possibly pick up other costs of upgrade, so often it's up to them. I'd rather downgrade to Note2, than 6plus, even if the price was the same, which it isn't.
BTW, I heard of more than one iphone owner being pissed about Apple's forced updates, when they didn't want to update.
And just to give an example why, I have no intention of updating my phone, it works just fine and update would break too many things for me, like root etc.
I mean seriously, iphone just got barometer and 1080p screen and 1080p60 video recording, WOW.
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+1, one thing I don't understand, why Samsung not able to give world ? wide update to all devices, which apple is able to do, many people screwed there phone because of running behind update, my samsung tab never received a single update in my country U.A.E, yes we knew flash threw Odin but there's many people spend their money & not able to enjoy there device with what they deserve.
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+1, one thing I don't understand, why Samsung not able to give world �� wide update to all devices, which apple is able to do, many people screwed there phone because of running behind update, my samsung tab never received a single update in my country U.A.E, yes we knew flash threw Odin but there's many people spend their money & not able to enjoy there device with what they deserve.
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Simple.
Apple has at most a total of 4 device types to update. (For instance, 5S, 5C, 6, 6+.) That's 4/5 different firmware versions to develop.
For just the Note 3, Samsung has:
N900
N9000Q
N9005
N900W8
N900T
N900P
N900A
N900V
N900S
N900K
N900R4
N9002
N9006
Divided amongst those versions are also a different CSC version for every country and every provider. Because every provider uses a different network, and a different list of compatible foreign roaming networks.
For the N9005 alone, that is 145 different CSC's. N900 has 75 different CSC.
Even if we assume that the rest of the device version only have 1 CSC (They don't), that's already a total of 233.
233 different firmwares to develop!
And that's just one device. Now think that Samsung updates all their devices for 18 months. So add another 233 for: The S4, S4 mini, S5, S5 mini, Mega, S4 Active, Note 3 Neo, Express 2, and all other recent devices.
We're talking about just the ones mentioned above of, at any time, 2100 different firmware versions that need to be separately developed, tested and rolled out. None are identical. (As evident by the problem many had when updating from DBT to BTU a while back and had to reflash the pit file.)
2100. And that's provided nothing goes wrong.
I didn't even count all active devices, just the recent Android ones that are most common.
Now, all Branded firmwares have to go back and forth between the respective providers several times for testing and adapting as well. That's about 6 weeks for every Branded version. (Which is why that's always late).
And Samsung? They don't have a choice. Because every provider demands their own version. That's the problem with an open software and a fair business policy, the providers have the right to do that. Apple doesn't answer to anyone (Not even international law.) and nobody can shake a stick at Apple without a backlash from the US Government.
See the problem? Samsung can try all they want. The problem isn't the company, it's the Telecom providers.
I mean to be honest Samsung could at least in theory cram all the modem hardware inside every phone so it works worldwide and on every network and also they could make up their minds about qualcom/exynos and use one across the brand.
Apple develops software in house, where Samsung get's it from Google and then have to adapt it to all it's models.
I don't pay much attention to iOS, but I think Android has more updates, more often.
As far as Apple being supported by US gov. I think you exaggerated, it's probably more about having enough money to bribe just anybody.
But why am I wasting time talking about Crapple in Note 3 forum.
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I mean to be honest Samsung could at least in theory cram all the modem hardware inside every phone so it works worldwide and on every network
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No, they can't. For starters, in the US it is entirely normal that the providers have their own private device entirely. It's hard to imagine anyone getting away with that in the EU, but in the US, AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile all have their own device. Not just their own firmware, but their very own device code, even. And not just phones. Tablets, too.
Have you noticed how it is near-impossible to acquire an Unbranded smartphone in the US?
Not to mention Black Import is a major problem. In comparison, in the US a phone costs $450. The same phone in the EU costs €799. ($1032). In India it's the equivalent of $200.
That's why it is illegal to export electronics from the US, that's why Lithium-Ion batteries are on the No-Fly list, and that's why the Region Lock exists.
Not to mention, a good example. The 2100 band in Canada is not the same as the one in Europe and the US. Which is why they called it the 1700 band, which also doesn't match to the ones in the rest of the world. Confusing, isn't it? So even if an EU device has the 2100 and 1700 bands listed as compatible, it won't work in Canada on those bands because it's not the same band at all, even though they're called the same. The US is like that, too.
Simply put, Telecom proivders have far, far too much power.
As far as Apple being supported by US gov. I think you exaggerated, it's probably more about having enough money to bribe just anybody.
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Apple provides a lot of hardware for the US government, and they're the richest company in the US.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this (probably are) but the US politicians get their funding from corporations and companies. Apple gave $308,000 USD to President Obama for his campaign. He was friends with Jobs.
Obama himself vetoed (overruled) Samsung's very first victory in the ITC, a ruling that would've resulted in an instant ban on all iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4, iPad 3G and iPad 2 sales.
If you don't call that supported by the government, I don't know what is. Corruption is what it is.
But why am I wasting time talking about Crapple in Note 3 forum.
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Because at least here we have intelligent conversations on the topic, as opposed to everywhere else where they just say 'But you don't need that for anything' to all arguments It's refreshing to discuss Apple products with people who actually DO know about the importance and meaning of hardware specifications.
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Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
Thoughts...
Agreed, So that our phones wont be obsolete three months later.....
Even thats still alot of phones thats 9 phones a year from the bigger companies. But it would help. I mean how many Galaxy phones does samsung need to release?
Yeah one phone per year like Apple.
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Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
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Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Nate2 said:
Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Agreed. If this were the case, companies would most likely make an expensive high-end phone, and then a crappy low-end phone. Thats not to good for business.
Fragmentation, in my opinion, is because of companies promising updates for a device and it never happens. They're lazy and want to make money off the latest devices. Its all smart business strategy.
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This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
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And it would also completely destroy one of the reasons I and many others like Android so much, which is that you have so much choice over your phone. There's pretty much an Android phone for everyone now, from budget ones for those who want to use it pretty much purely for communication purposes to the high end phones for power users. If companies were to release just one or two phones a year, it would have to be a flagship device and a budget one. There wouldn't be an option for people like me who want a mid-range phone.
Your argument is also slightly flawed in that of course there would be more official updates, but who needs official updates when you have XDA?
No.
The point of android is choice. From budget phones for the people that need a cheep smartphone, mid-range ones for most users, "flagship" phones for those that want the latest and greatest. Big screens, small screens, physical keyboards, SD slots, you name it...
I do, however, agree that some companies *khm* samsung *khm* release so many models that neither users or the company itself know what's out there.
The biggest issue is the fact that relatively few companies release even the new phones with the latest version. HTC for example has almost all 2012 phone running ICS with upgrades coming out for most 2011 phones. Samsung on the other hand has the S2 upgraded, and the S3 as the ICS flagship. Almost everything else is coming out with GB with upgrade possibilities being very slim...
Surely the simplest solution would be for a phone maker to guarantee updates for two years on some phones and this would also encourage people who want an up to date phone to also purchase one of those with guaranteed updates.
Dave
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Turb0wned said:
Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
Thoughts...
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You've forgotten the HTC One V
The thing you have to realise is there are tiers when it comes to mobile phone markets.
Putting it simply there's the entry, mid, and high.
Someone who wants a powerful phone isn't going to be happy with an entry or mid level handset.
Someone who can only afford an entry level handset isn't going to be able to buy a high end phone.
Simples.
I hate samsung for lack of updates to such a great phones as e.g. sgs+
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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based on what you have said you definitely should get the gs4
something else you should consider is the software - if you want to use all features, you are pretty much stuck with stock software on both phones - you need to decide which stock software you like more
You want other people to tell you what to buy or do??
At least wait until they are both out, read the facts and make your own mind up
It looks like the Galaxy S IV will be your device then!
The HTC One is tailored to the more design attentive crowd. S IV isn't as pretty and lacks a couple features but the power is definitely there and Samsung will probably have more stable builds of AOSP based ROM's for customization
Livebyte said:
If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
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Why are Nexus devices more customizable? Can't any Android devices be rooted and loaded with custom roms?
Nexus devices are easier to root and unlock the bootloader, and updates are received directly from Google. Although those quick updates come with awful bugs.
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Generally the most consumer popular phones will have the largest customizability, it's true that nexus devices are built for devs and are easy to root, but really.. none of the devices you've listed are hard to root.
In this case, S4 is for you.
But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
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But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
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Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.
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Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.
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Galaxy S, S II & S III was total different design device.
S 4 is just recycle - that the main different here, also this year got more competitor, Xperia Z and HTC One ain't bad and direct compete with S 4.
Ya, S 4 probably still selling well not because it was great, because Samsung got money on marketing. Let said S 4 selling well, continuer S 5, S 6, S 7 and so on will be same/similar design. Is this what you all want? Definitely not for me.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you only care about power and battery then get yourself any dual core phone with an extended battery pack. Save yourself a few hundred dollars.
Removable battery on the S4
Andrewtst said:
S 4 is just recycle
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I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
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Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
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I'm telling you to send me and zetsumeikuro £500 each
johnk1973 said:
I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
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Spec and Design run together, not either one.
Compare the 2 together dude. If design, looks, feel, ui doesn't concern you then go for S4. However The battery life on htc is better then s3, hox, iPhone 5 but not quite as good as Note 2.
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Spec and Design run together, not either one.
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Not necessarily, only if that's what you are looking for, a completely different phone.
Different people are looking for different things, some want design, some fastest CPU, some best camera (me!) , etc.
But hey, everyone is old enough to have their own opinion and wants, the which Is why this thread is so dumb.
Isn't CM dropping this phone for support
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Korean site Samsung Mobile is unboxing the brand new LTE Advance version of the Galaxy SIV (SHV-E330S), that packs the first world Snapdragon 800 chipset to hit retail stores (later this week). I do not hold copyright over the content, hopefully it's okay to post their pictures and upcoming info. Nice color versions BTW!
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I see it's coming out in 32gb..Samsung is getting greedy and these iterations will drive their revenues down in a year. You can't be serious, after an unfinished s4,
Coming out with active then lte a then zoom, and none of these have the octa-core which just proves that the chip was a failure
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I see it's coming out in 32gb..Samsung is getting greedy and these iterations will drive their revenues down in a year. You can't be serious, after an unfinished s4,
Coming out with active then lte a then zoom, and none of these have the octa-core which just proves that the chip was a failure
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maybe samsung self destruction mode : on.
i cant stand the way samsung launch new product. samsung timing is very bad
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maybe samsung self destruction mode : on.
i cant stand the way samsung launch new product. samsung timing is very bad
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Theoretically it's the same old S4 sporting yet another hardware pack, suspicions of the Octa-troubles and/or Qualcomm's better LTE energy management are probably true.
If this goes international which i have a feeling it just might with 32Gb for the same price i paid for my original S4, I'll be mighty pissed off tbh.
I've noticed recently the price of the S4 has skydived in some places to well under £500.
Snapdragon800 in the S4 LTE-A and other upcoming flagships is insane!
http://blog.gsmarena.com/alleged-sony-xperia-z-ultra-antutu-benchmark-surfaces/
I'm quite pissed off now.
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I'm quite pissed off now.
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Me too buddy,
Its really rude what samsung is doing !
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Ppl. shouldn't be too pissed, just accept that things got sped up lately. Last September Note II broke benchmark records then it was bested in mere weeks by the S4 Pro SoC, then SD600 put that into the past via HTC One in March, then then the Octa-core shattered records in April, and now that the SD800 is out, Samsung cannot NOT put that into it's LTE-A S4 refreshment. I guess it'd be easier to swallow if it only got an updated Octa-core, but there is no such a thing after the Exynos mess. So you need to swallow this one, and then the LTE-A buyers when Note III breaks their records, then Tegra 4 comes out on top, then say hello to Ativ Q and Core i5 Haswell powered Android. That's how things go today, and I hope this eases your (understandable) pain.
I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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For now, this is an exclusive to the Korean carrier that launches the LTE-A network, and it is not yet available.
IIIPowerIII said:
I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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Considering the fact it is designed for the Korean market, it will probably have some funky bands and won't be compatible with most other markets.
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Ppl. shouldn't be too pissed, just accept that things got sped up lately.
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Exactly. The same discussion took place on the One forum when the Butterfly S was announced with better specs. A "flagship" doesn't come with any guarantees of the duration of its status. And "newer" happens all the time; the auto industry is a good example. How did people that bought a 2012 Range Rover late in the year feel when a completely redesigned version was launched a couple of months later?
As for LTE-A, S-800, Octa and the like it comes down to connectivity. Qualcomm makes 90% of the radios in mobile devices including a lot of previous Exynos-equipped Samsung devices. There are 40 LTE bands globally and current Qualcomm radios max out at 6. Using a Qualcomm SoC with a Qualcomm radio makes sense with the sudden importance of LTE. It’s actually kind of cool that Samsung Corporate doesn’t force Samsung Electronics to use Samsung Semiconductor products and instead pick what best accomplishes the mission. As for S-800 in the SGS4 LTE-A perhaps it's tied to compatibility with the new LTE-A radio. The SGS4 (or One, or XZ, or OG) don't need a S-800 chip to perform well. Any lag or s/w issues with the standard i9500/05 aren't h/w related as their benchmarks are superior to other devices that aren't having those issues. And battery life is unknown but it's certainly going to consume more energy than S-600. And Samsung probably spent about $500+MM on R&D for big.LITTLE. So if 1/3 of the 60MM SGS4's sold this year are Octa that equals $25 per phone sold which based on a BOM cost of $30 would have been a complete waste of time. They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa. Maybe not the same version of Octa as in the SGS4 but Octa nonetheless. 17 companies have licensed big.LITTLE from ARM and 7 chips are to be released this year. So big.LITTLE/Octa isn't going away; in fact it's in its infancy.
As for the gazillion "Galaxy's" Samsung's producing that's smart. Each is aimed at a pretty defined niche and allows the expanded portfolio to appeal to more people increasing sales prospects. I think the mission of the SGS4 Active against the SGS4 is a lot more defined than the Butterfly S against the One with the latter two being competing high-end phones aimed at exactly the same market.
All just my opinion of course.
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They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa.
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You are incorrect. RF-360 from Qualcomm is an RF front end... not a baseband radio.
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Exactly. The same discussion took place on the One forum when the Butterfly S was announced with better specs. A "flagship" doesn't come with any guarantees of the duration of its status. And "newer" happens all the time; the auto industry is a good example. How did people that bought a 2012 Range Rover late in the year feel when a completely redesigned version was launched a couple of months later?
As for LTE-A, S-800, Octa and the like it comes down to connectivity. Qualcomm makes 90% of the radios in mobile devices including a lot of previous Exynos-equipped Samsung devices. There are 40 LTE bands globally and current Qualcomm radios max out at 6. Using a Qualcomm SoC with a Qualcomm radio makes sense with the sudden importance of LTE. It’s actually kind of cool that Samsung Corporate doesn’t force Samsung Electronics to use Samsung Semiconductor products and instead pick what best accomplishes the mission. As for S-800 in the SGS4 LTE-A perhaps it's tied to compatibility with the new LTE-A radio. The SGS4 (or One, or XZ, or OG) don't need a S-800 chip to perform well. Any lag or s/w issues with the standard i9500/05 aren't h/w related as their benchmarks are superior to other devices that aren't having those issues. And battery life is unknown but it's certainly going to consume more energy than S-600. And Samsung probably spent about $500+MM on R&D for big.LITTLE. So if 1/3 of the 60MM SGS4's sold this year are Octa that equals $25 per phone sold which based on a BOM cost of $30 would have been a complete waste of time. They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa. Maybe not the same version of Octa as in the SGS4 but Octa nonetheless. 17 companies have licensed big.LITTLE from ARM and 7 chips are to be released this year. So big.LITTLE/Octa isn't going away; in fact it's in its infancy.
As for the gazillion "Galaxy's" Samsung's producing that's smart. Each is aimed at a pretty defined niche and allows the expanded portfolio to appeal to more people increasing sales prospects. I think the mission of the SGS4 Active against the SGS4 is a lot more defined than the Butterfly S against the One with the latter two being competing high-end phones aimed at exactly the same market.
All just my opinion of course.
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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I too wonder if the s800 will sip on the battery more lightly with the beefed up GPU. The adreno330 can supposedly handle 4k resolution so 1080p oughta be a cakewalk and allow it to run on a lower stepping and voltage. Just a theory. I also hope the note3 is full rgb also. Pentile looks fine in 1080p but I want all my subpixels dammit.
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You are incorrect. RF-360 from Qualcomm is an RF front end... not a baseband radio.
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I get ***** slapped every time I bring it up. This is the problem it solves and the only reason I mention it.
SAN DIEGO – February 21, 2013 – Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM) today announced that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., introduced the Qualcomm RF360 Front End Solution, a comprehensive, system-level solution that addresses cellular radio frequency band fragmentation and enables for the first time a single, global 4G LTE design for mobile devices.http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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My WAG is they go back to Mali and use a T-6XX.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6136/arm-announces-8core-2nd-gen-malit600-gpus
Samobile who's right less than half the time thinks it'll be a Mali 450.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/01/rumor-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-8-core-cpu-and-8-core-gpu/
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I get ***** slapped every time I bring it up. This is the problem it solves and the only reason I mention it.
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RF-360 won't be offered with non-Qualcomm modems.
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Samobile who's right less than half the time thinks it'll be a Mali 450.
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Where would such a GPU rank compared to the Adreno 330?
Who wants this amazing device?
Any news on availability?
Will this phone have a screen protector? how should it applied to a curved screen? and most importantly will it get an AOSP Rom? of course a proper which uses the curved screen?
I'm teetering back and forth on what to get. I'll need to see some reviews before I can make an informed decision. With that being said I'm leaning towards the Note 4 at the moment.
I want it badly !!
Worst information, that Edge will be available only in several markets. I've read on sammobile about Singapour, Korea, US, Spain and Australia.
It will be available in the US an all major carriers.
And I'm probably going to get it as long as developer support is there. Even if it's not as prevalent as established devices.
I'm a cutting edge kind of guy and this is definitely my style.
I've been waiting for this device every since the first picture was released but after finding out VR only works with the Note 4, Edge isn't for me anymore.
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I'm teetering back and forth on what to get. I'll need to see some reviews before I can make an informed decision. With that being said I'm leaning towards the Note 4 at the moment.
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Me too. I am sure there will be some good pre-launch deals but I would like to get my hands on one first to see if it's suitable, if not definitely the Note 4... but when?!!
I'm still on my Note II and I don't see any good reason to go for the Note 4, but I'd definitely consider the edge simply for it's uniqueness.
But ONLY if it gets rooted and ROM'd.
Speaking of which, someone please tell me the makers of DN3 are working on porting the Note 4's Touchwiz back to Note II! :fingers-crossed:
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Any news on availability?
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I want it and already preorder it on www.clove.co.uk .
The wait begins!
tossero said:
I want it and already preorder it on www.clove.co.uk .
The wait begins!
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I think I want the edge too. If nothing else if development is not there, in 6 months I'll just get something else or just live with stock . It just seems too "cutting edge" to pass up. Note 4 is great but a little something different in form would be nice for a change.
I am really leaning towards the Edge, it just looks so cool (yes I'm shallow) and 64gb memory doesn't hurt. I'm going to wait until I can play with both phones, though. I'm not in a big hurry, my Note 2 is still going strong. Rather take some time to make my choice.
I want one badly but I'm afraid Samsung won't release a Dev. Edition Edge for us Verizon guys.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to choose between a Dev. Edition Note 4 or a locked Note Edge :crying:
I want one to but it's being said around other sites that it going to cost us almost a $1000.00. What are your thoughts.
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I too have a Note II and it is great device. I'll probably get an Edge on Sprint contract if the price is not ridiculous. If it is, I'll probably seriously consider the IPhone 6 Phablet. The Edge has the opportunity to be a truly unique device with the help of XDA Developers.
I definitely will buy one, it s soooo sexy!!
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I'm definitely buying one BUT I won't get one of the first shipment of orders, I'll wait until the xda development is established because I already know that the AT&T version will have a locked bootloader.
Note Edge
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I love the new technology. I to wonder how much support there will be for the device The fact that the powerful specs of the Note 4 are under the hood are even a more compelling reason to grab this device.
I think the Note Edge will be great, but theoretically it should slightly underperform compared with the Note 4 because a single processor will be powering 2 screens.
I will most likely buy this device... (I am a hardcore **** Galaxy Note Fan... but... but...
I will buy the Galaxy Note 4 first for sure (first day it hits the store, without doubt... same as I did with Note 2 & Note 3... got Note 1 after about 2 months it was released)... (T-Mo Version) because it will most likely have root, unlocked bootloader and all the things we all love... and... then when the Edge comes... I will wait a week or 2... as soon as I see that it can be rooted and some dev support... I will end up buying this one too... have them both coexist for a month more or less and see how things go with each device... (development support, roms, etc...) and after a month maybe 2... will finally decide who is the lucky winner... (the looser... I will sell on ebay)
that's my story...
after seeing a video review of the Note Edge, i'm not so sure about it anymore for one main reason - one handed use. because of the screen on the right side, apparently its very difficult to use with your right hand without accidentally activating and/or pressing something on that screen. I'm a heavy one-handed/right-handed user on all my phones and this is a big deal.
I guess I'll have to get used to using both hands (of course its required when it comes to using the stylus)
Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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And are you going to present that petition directly to Samsung?
Plus it only says 100 people as goal... you'll need thousands of signs to make Samsung even consider the idea.
Also in the description it says 4GB RAM. S9's has 6GB of RAM
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sentinelvdx said:
And are you going to present that petition directly to Samsung?
Plus it only says 100 people as goal... you'll need thousands of signs to make Samsung even consider the idea.
Also in the description it says 4GB RAM. S9's has 6GB of RAM
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It's my first time doing any petition so I thought the goal would update once the 100 are reached (if at all)
And according to GSMArena the regular S9 has 4GB RAM: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s9-8966.php
I wrote that as that's the minimum RAM of a version from the series.
Edit: So it does auto-update? https://help.change.org/s/article/Changing-your-signature-goal?language=en_US
Can't find a change signatures number option in the Edit menu of the petition nor a place where I set a number when creating a new one.
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It's my first time doing any petition so I thought the goal would update once the 100 are reached (if at all)
And according to GSMArena the regular S9 has 4GB RAM: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s9-8966.php
I wrote that as that's the minimum RAM of a version from the series.
PS: So it does auto-update? https://help.change.org/s/article/Changing-your-signature-goal?language=en_US
Can't find a change signatures number option in the Edit menu of the petition.
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I have no idea, I've never created one.
But my main question is, how are you going to get Samsung's attention to show them how much people have signed it?
You have any important contact inside Samsung with any power on company's decisions?
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sentinelvdx said:
I have no idea, I've never created one.
But my main question is, how are you going to get Samsung's attention to show them how much people have signed it?
You have any important contact inside Samsung with any power on company's decisions?
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No I just tagged them on change.org
Can post on Samsung Members too but that's about it.
I saw this and thought why not create one for OneUI 3.0 as well.
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No I just tagged them on change.org
Can post on Samsung Members too but that's about it.
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Ahhh... then forget they'll care about... sorry to bring you down.
For things to happen you need someone who really matters inside the company and a way to reach him directly with thousands of signs
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Ahhh... then forget they'll care about... sorry to bring you down.
For things to happen you need someone who really matters inside the company and a way to reach him directly with thousands of signs
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I know it's a stretch. Just made the petition as another xda user requested one + it was fun exploring how it works. I'm happy with 2.5 too, all I want is wireless DeX.
The Galaxy Note 10 Lite has the same Exynos processor.
It's just a matter of waiting for Android 11 to be released on the Note 10 and there will be a port of it
Not reading wrong thread
Let's try...
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Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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i dont think samsung will hear us user's of s9+ since most of other people moved ono and buy new samsung's flahship phone either the s10 s20 and just release s21 line up, or maybe some who opted to use iphone instead. sad to see as thisi is going now where, i have signed the petition as well but all i see is only 2.5k signed.. i dont think thats going to be enough to move samsung's, though to be honest back then i was only using the galaxy note N7000, completely rooted nad apply so many mods, it was fun back then, hence i upgrade to the note 3 N9005, that was when i stopped for a brief to not rooting and modding , just few year back i purchased my s9+ back when the price is still overly priced. this s9+ was good only on my region we couldnt get the snapdragon chipset yet stuck with this poorly ecynos chipsets.. well still runs way better then the n7000 & n9005 i guess
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i dont think samsung will hear us user's of s9+ since most of other people moved ono and buy new samsung's flahship phone either the s10 s20 and just release s21 line up, or maybe some who opted to use iphone instead. sad to see as thisi is going now where, i have signed the petition as well but all i see is only 2.5k signed.. i dont think thats going to be enough to move samsung's, though to be honest back then i was only using the galaxy note N7000, completely rooted nad apply so many mods, it was fun back then, hence i upgrade to the note 3 N9005, that was when i stopped for a brief to not rooting and modding , just few year back i purchased my s9+ back when the price is still overly priced. this s9+ was good only on my region we couldnt get the snapdragon chipset yet stuck with this poorly ecynos chipsets.. well still runs way better then the n7000 & n9005 i guess
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I think a lot of people are moving to the Iphone. Because at least all their phones get updated no matter how old they are.. My wife and daughters use to have Android, but long since moved the Apple Iphone instead.