Phone companies shouldn't release so many phones - General Topics

Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
Thoughts...

Agreed, So that our phones wont be obsolete three months later.....

Even thats still alot of phones thats 9 phones a year from the bigger companies. But it would help. I mean how many Galaxy phones does samsung need to release?

Yeah one phone per year like Apple.

Turb0wned said:
Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
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Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Nate2 said:
Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Agreed. If this were the case, companies would most likely make an expensive high-end phone, and then a crappy low-end phone. Thats not to good for business.
Fragmentation, in my opinion, is because of companies promising updates for a device and it never happens. They're lazy and want to make money off the latest devices. Its all smart business strategy.
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Turb0wned said:
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
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And it would also completely destroy one of the reasons I and many others like Android so much, which is that you have so much choice over your phone. There's pretty much an Android phone for everyone now, from budget ones for those who want to use it pretty much purely for communication purposes to the high end phones for power users. If companies were to release just one or two phones a year, it would have to be a flagship device and a budget one. There wouldn't be an option for people like me who want a mid-range phone.
Your argument is also slightly flawed in that of course there would be more official updates, but who needs official updates when you have XDA?

No.
The point of android is choice. From budget phones for the people that need a cheep smartphone, mid-range ones for most users, "flagship" phones for those that want the latest and greatest. Big screens, small screens, physical keyboards, SD slots, you name it...
I do, however, agree that some companies *khm* samsung *khm* release so many models that neither users or the company itself know what's out there.
The biggest issue is the fact that relatively few companies release even the new phones with the latest version. HTC for example has almost all 2012 phone running ICS with upgrades coming out for most 2011 phones. Samsung on the other hand has the S2 upgraded, and the S3 as the ICS flagship. Almost everything else is coming out with GB with upgrade possibilities being very slim...

Surely the simplest solution would be for a phone maker to guarantee updates for two years on some phones and this would also encourage people who want an up to date phone to also purchase one of those with guaranteed updates.
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Turb0wned said:
Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
Thoughts...
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You've forgotten the HTC One V
The thing you have to realise is there are tiers when it comes to mobile phone markets.
Putting it simply there's the entry, mid, and high.
Someone who wants a powerful phone isn't going to be happy with an entry or mid level handset.
Someone who can only afford an entry level handset isn't going to be able to buy a high end phone.
Simples.

I hate samsung for lack of updates to such a great phones as e.g. sgs+
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1 Million phones in 45 days!

GO SAMSUNG Galaxy S. Suck it iPhone!
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
darkamikaze said:
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I'm just happy my backing the Android racehorse hasn't been a mistake
is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...
Berserk87 said:
is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...
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No. It's AT&T plus T-Mobile. And it's 1 million shipped. Not sold.
But I doubt Verizon and Sprint will sell as many Galaxy as AT&T and T-mobile. Verizon already has a great Android line. Galaxy S for verizon is just ugly.
darkamikaze said:
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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Well, Rule #1 in this forum (and all the other android forums): any pro-Apple post will be deleted and your account will be suspended!
Quite impressive for Samsung.
Been contemplating this very question for awhile....and also two more:
> How many have been 'sold' worldwide? Id say approx. 2 million but thats just my guess - considering sammy has sold heaps in Korea.
> How many HTC Desire's have been sold worldwide, as this gives a good representation of Sammy's android competition.
One million phones sold? Impressive.
Ah, it seems like yesterday that I was envying Omnia i900 owners for their 3.2in screen, 624Mhz processor, and smooth Windows Mobile performance. Now I own a Galaxy i9000 variant with a 4in SAMOLED, 1Ghz processor, and an Android OS (which wasn't even released yet at the time).
Good times.
Android and Apple can happily coexist. It's true! I even like both platforms despite each of their con's.
darkamikaze said:
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.
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I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.
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I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
I look at the two like this: iPhone is great for people who want smart phone functionality with a VERY simple interface. Android is great for people who want smart phone functionality and control the phone at a more granular level.
skinien said:
I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
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Google had already acquired Android and was investing in it before Apple announced the iPhone. Google was already building in the space.
That said, if you've seen the early Android stuff... well, things changed a ton before we even got to the G1. Which was now famously described by Andy Rubin as beta level software, a .8 version. The super early stuff was more Blackberry than Apple, and in fact, Apple wasn't even yet an established top player yet. But certainly, Android development, in co-ordination with Apple's runaway success took a very iPhone-esque turn. And, at least in my opinion, very much for the better.
EDIT: And on the topic:
Also, 1 million shipped in 45 days on AT&T and T-Mobile is very impressive. I wish we had a break down of the AT&T and T-Mobile specific numbers. If even 300,000 of those are Captivates than AT&T must be in shock, they did almost no promotion, especially before release, yet this would be selling big numbers right across from those massive iPhone 4 displays. Maybe then they will step up their Android efforts. And maybe we will see both Android and iPhone displays at AT&T stores soon.
The Epic seems to be doing quite well in terms of buzz. It should do well. Many of the various versions of the International Galaxy S are doing very well. And doing bonkers in Korea. They did what, 300,000 in Korea in 19 days? And had sold 1 million worldwide in less than 4 weeks on the same date, which was July 13th. Before any US versions released. Now... hard to say until we get an update, but 3 million worldwide wouldn't be surprising, and that's with the Epic, Fascinate, and not all global markets released yet. Though I will say, I am a bit worried about the Fascinate. But it might do alright. People talk about the options on Verizon, but there are many of the same options or more in Europe, and the Galaxy S line has still sold very well.
(It will also be interesting to see how the Vibrant sells when the G2 is released. Very interesting. Also how T-Mobile development moves. The G1 was the starting point, then the Magic was strong, and then the Nexus One, especially on T-Mobile, maybe the height of community Android development centering on a device. The Vibrant has some momentum, especially as the first super high end T-Mobile phone, as the Nexus One wasn't a T-Mobile phone, just on the network. The G2 could split that up. We will see.)
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.
Total global sales so far have exceeded 3 million and its climbing.
TexUs said:
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.
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Come on now...I dont think humans are really THAT stupid but I could be wrong....that would be scary
Go Galaxy S...my bro took a while to upgrade from his love affair with blackberry and now cannot put the galaxy down....oh yeah another convert!
I'm pretty sure that's about correct. They already sold over three million.
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TexUs said:
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy
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I hope I am not the only one in this forum that loves both iOS and Android. I wish both do well. I hope the competition can go forever so the customers can be real winner.
I hope they both do well. I think Android is better suited to phones than IOS. IOS rocks the Tablet form factor though.
Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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draino623 said:
Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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haha yea only lol.
But really though I think there's too much Apple hating with Android (Bootscreen's with Android peeing or pooping apple, wallpapers etc.). Android IS amazing and all but what do you really get bashing another platform that keep Android developers in check by working even harder to compete with the other guys? I guess it's all for the fun.
With that said. Love my phone right now

What do you plan on doing?

Samsung is unveiling a new generation of Galaxy S phones. What does this mean for current Galaxy S users? Are we going to be neglected once Samsung unveils this newer and sexier line of galaxy phones? Could there be cross-development between this generation and the next generation of Galaxy phones? Any Captivate owners planning to abandon ship or reluctantly stay with your current phone?
I'm currently debating whether I should sell my Captivate in a few weeks (I'm sure holiday demand will help increase prices a little ) and grab the newer galaxy phones when they come out, or just stick with this already amazing phone. Decisions decisions...
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this...
or just stick with this already amazing phone
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..Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
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Mac11700 said:
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this.....Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
Mac
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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It's not like there is really anything on the new phones that the Captivate won't be able to do...
I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
We first started seeing leaks of the current galaxy S devices in April of 2009... It takes quite a bit of time to go from a few prototypes to actual production.
sticking with my current phone. couldn't afford to upgrade anyway..
There is always going to be something better"just around the corner" ......the wonders of modern technology
Not sure what more I can expect my phone to do at this point though....but I am sure I will upgrade again though not til next summer
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I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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+1 to this
veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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That's true, but we're not living in 2008 anymore! I'm want to have a handset that will last me through 2012
For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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Nerz said:
For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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This phone will be plenty to last at least for two years until my contract is up.
Hell, I bought a PS3 in 2006 and Sony is just about to release the console's most anticipated game ever Gran Turismo 5.
And that will easily last a couple more years before a Playstation 4 is revealed.
Although there will be newer phones, I think the Captivate is future proof for a couple of years.
That is what open-source and apps are for.
I love the captivate currently and the prospect of new phones means more software support in the future that is compatible with it.
Gingerbread not being released on the captivate? A long as a similar phone is and it meets the specs looks like our kitchens will be cooking for a long time.
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This...I just hope they keep developing for the Cap. And if "they" dont, I know someone who will /grin
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I bought my Captivate off contract, and if Samsung releases another phone on AT&T that I like, I'll buy that phone off contract as well. I don't mind having a stockpile of working GSM phones

Android phonoe not a good investment?

i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
Comparing to the iphone, yea.
It's good for the buyer and bad for the reseller.
That will never happen. Manufacturers care nothing about your phone's value after you purchase it. To compete with the Iphone they have to produce many different phones to cater to everyone's needs. I personally like new and better phones coming out all the time. Who wants the same phone for a year?
I plan to use my phone for several years. I did use my previous one for about 5 years (it was a Nokia N80) and only replaced it because of a hardware defect. Why does it matter that new phones are out? Your current one doesn't become a worse phone because of it, it's still the same phone that you bought because you determined that it suits your needs.
...if you care more about resale value of your phone, then sure.
Most people here care more about new technologies in hardware and software I would think.
iphone will not have NFC, bigger screens, LTE, etc.. for nearly another year. Its outdated before it was even released. And it holds it value only because of its restricted platform.
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...if you care more about resale value of your phone, then sure.
Most people here care more about new technologies in hardware and software I would think.
iphone will not have NFC, bigger screens, LTE, etc.. for nearly another year. Its outdated before it was even released. And it holds it value only because of its restricted platform.
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Exactly. To alot of us, it is all about the new technology. And to keep with the topic of the OP, the sooner you decide to upgrade, the more resale value your phone has.
Gusar321 said:
I plan to use my phone for several years. I did use my previous one for about 5 years (it was a Nokia N80) and only replaced it because of a hardware defect. Why does it matter that new phones are out? Your current one doesn't become a worse phone because of it, it's still the same phone that you bought because you determined that it suits your needs.
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They said Infuse 4g will not be supported by ICS, and all other single core android device
Try selling a used SGS2 when anyone can get a new one for $500.
Then try selling a used 16gb iPhone 4 when a new 8gb iPhone 4 (not 4s) costs $550.
I think as long as you enjoy it, it is a good investment.
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No phone is an investment. By definition, an investment appreciates in value, no phone appreciates only depreciates invalue; some quicker than others. Unless you've got serial # 1 of the Google Nexus or something.
robsaw said:
No phone is an investment. By definition, an investment appreciates in value, no phone appreciates only depreciates invalue; some quicker than others. Unless you've got serial # 1 of the Google Nexus or something.
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Iphone 4s appreciate in value, if you bought one now you can sell it for almost a thousand bucks on ebay?
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They said Infuse 4g will not be supported by ICS, and all other single core android device
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So how is a nexus S going to be the first device with an update to ICS when it is a lowly single-core device?
Spec whores really need to calm down.
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i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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That's the problem with cannibalization, you have different manufacturers all fighting for a larger slice of the pie. If theY stop releasing new handsets while other companies continue to pump out new models, revenues drop, profits drop, share price tanks, bye bye manufacturer.
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Iphone 4s appreciate in value, if you bought one now you can sell it for almost a thousand bucks on ebay?
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That's not appreciation in value. Appreciation in value happens over time (if it happens). That is purely because there are people willing to pay a lot of money rather than wait for their carrier or local shop to get it.
Seriously, why are you going all over a heavily Android based community and bigging up the iPhone everywhere? This community is for discussion and development that serves to make everyone's Android experience better. You're just posting things like this...
Android phonoe not a good investment?
Is it wise to buy new Android device if there is a coming new model every month?
Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?
Reason why iPhone 4s kills Android
Please stop trolling our forums. If you don't like Android then stop posting in Android forums. If you do want your Android phone (if you have one) to be better then stick at reading the forums. If you'd prefer an iPhone then please just get one!
Thank you
spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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Who cares if it depreciates, it's a phone, not a share. Just buy what you like and have fun with it. This unless you really plan on reselling it: in that case buy an iPhone: next summer you'll be able to sell it for 450€ or so and upgrade to a new phone almost "for free"...
spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model
AllGamer said:
no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model
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I agree with what he said, dont ever buy a phone thinking you will be able to make a lot of the money back.
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AllGamer said:
no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model
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Depends in what way you mean investment. Investment when you already have a phone, or an investment when you don't have a phone but need one to earn any money? Of course it's an investment when you need a phone.
It's the same for most things. Yes I'm being highly pedantic
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i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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Personally I would rather see frequency updates so that there is always a "new" phone available when I want one. I would hate for the only phone available when I need one to be 10 months old already.

Twice as good(better) than g2x

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Looks promising
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really not a fan of the g#x name scheme
Sounds good. I sure hope they don't screw up with it as they did with the G2x.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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The 720p & 21mbps thing also lg should be stepping their game up lol... I'll be going for specific processor chips from now on, I'm tired of the run around lol. Don't want to have to rely on awesome devs to support us.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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It will be hilarious if the next phone to that is G8x. G8 in Chinese sounds the same as the male part. Some believe it the reason why Canon skipped PowerShot G8 and directly to G9.
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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Quad core processing, will have at least a gig of RAM, so twice as much RAM, 100% faster processing times. Not to mention a 4.7 inch screen, real 720p HD screen and 21 mbps radio instead of 14.4.
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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Amen
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This is a very tempting phone. But it's just hard to put all your cards in LG and nVidia again.
I will buy g4x, the screen on g2x look way better than Samsung and HTC phones, hopefully g4x will have nice and easy to clean screen.
If only it didn't say lg on it. Smh
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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rauelius said:
With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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You, sir, are a genius.
/sarcasm
Yeah, basically same thing that was said about Hyundai, thanks for proving my point! "How can you support a car for 10 Years?!?!" And honestly, ICS really should've been release for the Nexus One. Low end phones going forward will be at about the level of the G2x and the original Transformer (Look up ZTE Tegra2 phone, it's considered a mid-level 2012 phone). Besides, this could be offered only to premium handsets.
Also, you assume that 100% of the people will actually take advantage of the warranty. Reality is about 12.5% actually use the warranty on products. I actually learned 30% in marketing, and in my 10 years in corporate business, it's actually more like 12.5%. Better marketing, vs at most 30% of people taking advantage of it (unrealistic)
The idea isn't ludicrous, it just saddens me that their are such self-limited minds out there.
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That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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give me a reason why i should choose

give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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based on what you have said you definitely should get the gs4
something else you should consider is the software - if you want to use all features, you are pretty much stuck with stock software on both phones - you need to decide which stock software you like more
You want other people to tell you what to buy or do??
At least wait until they are both out, read the facts and make your own mind up
It looks like the Galaxy S IV will be your device then!
The HTC One is tailored to the more design attentive crowd. S IV isn't as pretty and lacks a couple features but the power is definitely there and Samsung will probably have more stable builds of AOSP based ROM's for customization
Livebyte said:
If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
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Why are Nexus devices more customizable? Can't any Android devices be rooted and loaded with custom roms?
Nexus devices are easier to root and unlock the bootloader, and updates are received directly from Google. Although those quick updates come with awful bugs.
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Generally the most consumer popular phones will have the largest customizability, it's true that nexus devices are built for devs and are easy to root, but really.. none of the devices you've listed are hard to root.
In this case, S4 is for you.
But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
Andrewtst said:
But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
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Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.​
BarryH_GEG said:
Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.​
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Galaxy S, S II & S III was total different design device.
S 4 is just recycle - that the main different here, also this year got more competitor, Xperia Z and HTC One ain't bad and direct compete with S 4.
Ya, S 4 probably still selling well not because it was great, because Samsung got money on marketing. Let said S 4 selling well, continuer S 5, S 6, S 7 and so on will be same/similar design. Is this what you all want? Definitely not for me.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you only care about power and battery then get yourself any dual core phone with an extended battery pack. Save yourself a few hundred dollars.
Removable battery on the S4
Andrewtst said:
S 4 is just recycle
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I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
zetsumeikuro said:
Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
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I'm telling you to send me and zetsumeikuro £500 each
johnk1973 said:
I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
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Spec and Design run together, not either one.
Compare the 2 together dude. If design, looks, feel, ui doesn't concern you then go for S4. However The battery life on htc is better then s3, hox, iPhone 5 but not quite as good as Note 2.
Andrewtst said:
Spec and Design run together, not either one.
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Not necessarily, only if that's what you are looking for, a completely different phone.
Different people are looking for different things, some want design, some fastest CPU, some best camera (me!) , etc.
But hey, everyone is old enough to have their own opinion and wants, the which Is why this thread is so dumb.
Isn't CM dropping this phone for support
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