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Android 4.4.2 Improvements...?

Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.

The sound of the speaker is average! It's a hardware thing, no software update can change it.. If you want some boost, you will need to root it and install a sound mod like Viper4android...
No wifi signal dropouts here. Whaatttttt??? The screen on this beast is a real BEAUT!
The camera is pretty good and can manage decent shots.

gino_76ph said:
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
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Never had wifi problem, speaker is easily fixed and they addressed it in 4.4.2, my screen is perfect, and my camera is perfect.
This nice man made a volume boost mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
and this nice man made a camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061

As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.

gino_76ph said:
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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Rooting and stuff is not technical at all, it requires little to no knowledge. Just read the guide threads..

My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.

gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
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Hi,
You can unroot and go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
As for viruses and bugs, it's not the root that can cause that but more what you will do after rooting your device... There is no bug, at least no more than a non rooted device, with only rooting your device. It's only if you modify some files system, flash something not stable, or the wrong file and so on. If you install a "crappy" or cracked app with root access (and allow it without know what it does), yes maybe you can encounter some bugs or viruses. It's on the user side...

I have not rooted my phone and it's perfect, i have no complaints whatsoever. I keep refraining myself from rooting tho because of gravitybox, my geeky side keeps telling me to root but i don't right now because i don't need it, but i will definitely do it after a year or something (knowing myself).

gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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When using Fastboot and ADB its commands so there is no chance of bugs or viruses.modding is what XDA is all about.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I could maybe try rooting my device one day. But until then i'm happy with normal updates.
I have been reading about the "fiasco" of 4.4.1 and i just think that Google sometimes don't listen to end-user complaints too quickly and they would rather sit back and wait till the complaints are a mountain high (with the same issues attached to it) until they act.

I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.

gino_76ph said:
Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Hi,
Here: [PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos...

ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I have been hearing somewhat conflicting comments that the 4.4.2 camera still has more space for improvements. It can sometimes bring oversaturatedness, greyness, haziness and still weak in the low-light department.
Another issue i heard is the battery seems still not convincingly and dramatically improved from the last time. 3G & 4G signal seems also not perfect. What i mean is if the phone comes from a 3G to a 4G area the phone either reboots itself, turns itself off or would take time to "reconfigure" its software to know that its in a strong 4G signal. Am i making sense?
Is there any truth to this?

gino_76ph said:
Is there any truth to this?
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Not with respect to my phone.

Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.

5Hi,
In my opinion stop the "I heard someone" or "some are saying" and jump the train...
4.4.2 is way better than 4.4/4.4.1 (and yes I ran stock rom in the past ).
About Android usage in battery stats is already discussed here, I mean in this Q&A forum, I have not it, like almost 90% (or more) users, it's on the user side (whatever some other users tends to think). It can happen on 4.4/4.4.1 too... but since a minority of users are still on this version and the updates have been quick, nobody still speak about it.
Wi-Fi crashes, phone turn OFF by itself (on full stock?) it's also a very large minority on stock (I would say never), it could be due to the user too, no?
High battery drain in idle-> mostly user side (rogue app for example). Ans so on...
Don't mixe what your read about some problems between stock rom and custom rom/kernel/mods...., in my opinion (and I'm not alone) all you read is nothing, biased feedback due to some users who don't know how use their phones, install xx and xy apps and after that they are complaining about battery life, bugs and so on
Battery heat (or CPU?), what is heat for you or for the guy who said that? I any case there is thermal throttle to prevent any dammage and you are running a quadcore CPU (with a max CPU freq at 2,26 GHz ) enclosed without thermal cooling so in certain circumstances expect some heat...
If you are not still convinced, hum... don't do anything
Test and see by yourself, sometimes it will be better than read something here and there... . I'm not saying that you are "reported" is false but nonestly it's mostly ******, at least like I said it's not about 4.4.2 itself but user side.
That being said you seem a user easily influenced by some things read or heard here and there, maybe you'll be more influenced by the replies in your thread

gino_76ph said:
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
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I have not experienced any of these issues when I was on stock for a week. I suggest you go buy the nexus 5 and return it if you don't like it then try the G2 if you really want amazing battery life. But I assure you, once you experience Nexus, you'll go back to Nexus.

Well, for one thing i had a Nexus 4 and i had to return/sell it because of so many issues. And those same issues have again cropped-up in the stock Nexus 5 4.4/4.4.1/4.4.2. Sounds familiar?
Yes it's true it "could be" a minority who have the same issues but its STILL a minority and its STILL the same issues. It's either the users fault or the phone itself. Yes it could be malicious/battery-draining apps or a ROM that has some bugs, etc. But in the past 6 months i have not heard of a "minority" of HTC One or Galaxy S3/S4 users that have the same issues. Have you? It does tell you something about how the phone was made and how Google pushes its updates.
I know and i'm well aware that the only thing to do is to actually try one. But what if if i try one, got the same problems, do a factory reset, still same problems, have to return/sell the thing and so on. Its such a hassle. That is why i am looking for answers and reviews/comments here. And i truly appreciate all your insights. I really do.
Call me fuzzy or overly-careful. I'm not looking for a "perfect" Google Nexus phone. I just want a phone (and Android phone as such) that works.
Again, as i said i'm not overly worried about the camera because a phone camera can & will never replace a proper one.My other concern is the 4.4.2 battery life. My Nexus 4's battery life was near atrocious. Could not tell you how long (or short) it's battery life is thats is why i got rid of it. But if a number of issues come up with the same battery life issue and battery getting warmer then am i to worry?
My typical day is get up at 6AM, remove the charger on my phone (if it was charged overnight), turn it off or turn the wifi off whilst i have my shower, get on the bus and the train, turn on my mobile data then checking the morning news/weather/notes/Twitter, get on to my work and keep my mobile data (and everything else like wifi, bluetooth, NFC...you know) turned off, turn on my data again for my 30-minute lunch and turn it off when back to my afternoon shift, going back home i listen to some music (a typical journey lasts around 45 minutes) whilst at the same time checking out some tech news on Appy Geek, when i'm at home i turn off my mobile data and connect to my home wifi (kept On till until i wake up again the next morning) whilst in-between supper & shower & bed i check Twiiter again, Instagram, couple of Youtube videos, email, playing a game which would last maybe 30-60 minutes max and that's it. I sleep around 11PM and wake up again around 6AM.
My questions are:
1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
The area where i live, where i travel and my work place hasn't got a strong 4G signal. I have no problems with my home broadband/wifi as i typically have a very fast and stable connection. So...
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Thanks peeps.

gino_76ph said:
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1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
Based on how you use your phone, not really. Unless there's a hardware defect.
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
For me, no. I once tried one and it didn't help at all. But there's no harm in trying.
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
A few weeks ago I did some heavy gaming for an hour and the phone was really warm, but I still got >5hrs SoT at the end of the day before charging again.
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
Yes the battery life is somewhat improved; but what I experienced was that it improves when I stay in the same ROM for some days, and I charge it overnight when the battery is less than 5%.
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
In my opinion (and experience), yes.
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Here's a thread you can analyze: Nexus 5 Battery Results

Heating issue of Top Speaker

Anybody has noticed that Z3 earpiece (top speaker) heats up a lot within 5 - 10 mins of phone calls?
BTW I am using Z3 D6633 (dual sim).

mine heats up
Mine is z3 dual as well and it heats up pretty quickly

This was happening to me too, but seemed related to battery drain as well. When I disabled "Smart Backlight Control" in Settings, Display, both issues seemed to go away. Phone calls no longer ran hot and batter drain improved a lot. I almost returned the phone bc of the heat during calls!

I just tested 8:40 call, not hot at all just lightly warm thats it. Maybe some production quality issues in your case.

Mine is T-Mobile variant, so who knows if heat issues differ between Tmo and Intl versions too. For me, I "restored all apps" and after normal disabling of startup apps etc, still was hot. Thought it was SPB 3D Shell, but eventually it was the disabling of Smart Backlight Control that did the trick. Who knows.

Overheating Issue with Xperia z3 Dual phone
Hi. I am having severe overheating issues within 5 minutes of normal phone calls.
I got the phone replaced but the new phone again has the same overheating Issue.
Can't expect this from a Sony phone costing more than US 800.

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Hi. I am having severe overheating issues within 5 minutes of normal phone calls.
I got the phone replaced but the new phone again has the same overheating Issue.
Can't expect this from a Sony phone costing more than US 800.
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Did you disable smart backlight?

abhinav.tella said:
did you disable smart backlight?
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yes indeed i have disabled smart backlight.
It worked as it seems to be now
no more overheating during call!
Thanks guys!

baliles said:
This was happening to me too, but seemed related to battery drain as well. When I disabled "Smart Backlight Control" in Settings, Display, both issues seemed to go away. Phone calls no longer ran hot and batter drain improved a lot. I almost returned the phone bc of the heat during calls!
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Thanks for the help. My friend with a Z3 Dual was desperate because of overheating during calls, now everything works fine!

XPERIA XA battery unable to charge while in use

Hello all,
I've recently bought an Xperia XA and have been satisfied with the device itself, i know its a new phone and we could await some updates, but what i encountered last night made me create an account here and ask.
I was low on battery, basically 1% and attached it to the charger i received with the phone itself, thus the phone goes into normal mode no battery saving or stamina, nothing and no third party apps installed for it. I started browsing Instagram, through google chrome, and even though the phone was charging it couldn't get up even 1% for the time I was on it, basically 30mins almost.
Now, your thoughts, I see on the forums the battery drains fast, cannot basically use it without stamina mode, but do you think that this is 'normal' or should I go back and ask for a different device?
Do you think the updates to the system itself will solve the problems in the future? I was on an Xperia M2 before and was really satisfied, battery lasted whole day no stamina mode, no problem. And from the specifications I read its supposed to have a good battery(XA).
Thank you,
Friction

Friction117 said:
Hello all,
I've recently bought an Xperia XA and have been satisfied with the device itself, i know its a new phone and we could await some updates, but what i encountered last night made me create an account here and ask.
I was low on battery, basically 1% and attached it to the charger i received with the phone itself, thus the phone goes into normal mode no battery saving or stamina, nothing and no third party apps installed for it. I started browsing Instagram, through google chrome, and even though the phone was charging it couldn't get up even 1% for the time I was on it, basically 30mins almost.
Now, your thoughts, I see on the forums the battery drains fast, cannot basically use it without stamina mode, but do you think that this is 'normal' or should I go back and ask for a different device?
Do you think the updates to the system itself will solve the problems in the future? I was on an Xperia M2 before and was really satisfied, battery lasted whole day no stamina mode, no problem. And from the specifications I read its supposed to have a good battery(XA).
Thank you,
Friction
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Not sure about the charging but one thing I never do is use a device whilst charging, there is a known wifi bug that doesn't let the device reach deap sleep on the original firmware are you on the latest firmware version as the wifi bug is fixed and there's a new kernel aswell apparently I also recommend either a factory reset or software repair once latest firmware is available. How is it compared to the m2 as I'm making the same upgrade next week all being well and I'm following everything closely it's a stunning looking device only had a few brief goes with one don't know whether to get black/charcoal one or lime gold one

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Not sure about the charging but one thing I never do is use a device whilst charging, there is a known wifi bug that doesn't let the device reach deap sleep on the original firmware are you on the latest firmware version as the wifi bug is fixed and there's a new kernel aswell apparently I also recommend either a factory reset or software repair once latest firmware is available. How is it compared to the m2 as I'm making the same upgrade next week all being well and I'm following everything closely it's a stunning looking device only had a few brief goes with one don't know whether to get black/charcoal one or lime gold one
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The current build number is 33.2.A.2.35 and I did do a factory reset since the update but didn't help much. For eg I've taken it off the charger this morning @ 6.00 and haven't been using it much, a couple of viber messages and pictures taken, one short call (under 1 min) basically its on my desk while I'm at work, only chatting with my gf a bit. And it dropped right now to 40% . And it is in Stamina mode, with optimization disabled for viber and whatsapp.
*edit call quality way better than m2 forgot that*
Now compared to the M2, hands down like going from a zastava car(serbian) to a benz i'd say, works flawlessly, the camera both front and back is better than expected, zoom is nice, design and aluminium body are perfect with slight screen curvature. It says mid range but certainly doesn't feel like it. Only issue beside the battery is finding accessories for it, screen protection or casing, at least in Serbia, as it is brand new, most people in shops haven't even heard of it.

Friction117 said:
The current build number is 33.2.A.2.35 and I did do a factory reset since the update but didn't help much. For eg I've taken it off the charger this morning @ 6.00 and haven't been using it much, a couple of viber messages and pictures taken, one short call (under 1 min) basically its on my desk while I'm at work, only chatting with my gf a bit. And it dropped right now to 40% . And it is in Stamina mode, with optimization disabled for viber and whatsapp.
*edit call quality way better than m2 forgot that*
Now compared to the M2, hands down like going from a zastava car(serbian) to a benz i'd say, works flawlessly, the camera both front and back is better than expected, zoom is nice, design and aluminium body are perfect with slight screen curvature. It says mid range but certainly doesn't feel like it. Only issue beside the battery is finding accessories for it, screen protection or casing, at least in Serbia, as it is brand new, most people in shops haven't even heard of it.
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Only cases I've seen myself are genuine Sony ones, a shell type and the leather flap type screenprotectors try mediadevil the best non tempered glass ones I've found been using them on my M2 for a while

Z5 rather hot, in phone case.

Hi.
I have a Bez Sony Z5 phone case on my phone, and I recently ran a CPU benchmark. The CPU scores had gone way down low, probably because of my case thermal throttling my phone. Is there something I could do to get my phone cooler, without me having to get rid of my case? I wouldn't mind modding the case either btw.
Thanks

it is well known for over 2 years that almost every phone who uses SD810 chipset throttles like no other and warms up a lot till the point when is unplesant to hold it....sry to say that but it is what it is...Sony and other companies wont admit it....i tried a lot of times to prove them wrong with every xperia that i had ,they never admit that the phone does overheat they will say that it just heats up so its normal(yea sure)...my last Sony phone was XZ wich somehow worked normaly but after using it for more then half year its heating up and it throttles again like every xperia maybe little les agressive but it does.now i use galaxy s8 and yes Sony this phone also warms up but doesnt throttle like ur crap HEHE. cheers
PS.
if u are familiar to flashing stuff on ur phone etc, ur only solution to throttling is to unlock the bootloader and root ur phone and then instal mod callled FSC(thermal FIX)...after flashing this mod phone runs cooler and smoother. i personaly tested with my friend´s xperia z5 and it works better then stock.if ur interested take a look and see... https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...-0-dont-sacrifice-performance-t3670586/page11

Question Overheating and drop to 60Hz

Hi,
I have been using my Xperia 5 III for a week now. Everything is well but the phone overheats when going about completely normal day to day tasks. Just the use of a slightly more intensive application like Uber heats the phone up.
When this happens, the screen automatically drops to 60Hz. I cannot seem to disable this 'feature'. While charging, needless to say, the phone pretty much stays in 60Hz for the first half of charging time due to overheating.
Is the above normal? I don't seem to see any background updates. I would not mind the overheating if the display would just remain at 120Hz. Will rooting or modding be able to overcome this?
Cheers!

not at my dayly use of the X5 III
just went hot at first day of many installations but after than not anymore.

Found a good solution to the overheating: rooted (Magisk) and used Franco Kernel Manager to disable the big core and a couple of the middle ones, thing still absolutely flies, and now never gets hot.

treff89 said:
Found a good solution to the overheating: rooted (Magisk) and used Franco Kernel Manager to disable the big core and a couple of the middle ones, thing still absolutely flies, and now never gets hot.
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Wow great! Any side effects on incompatible apps, instability issues or bugs? And did you benchmark before and after?

i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??

DanielMode said:
i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??
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Nothing intensive. Just Uber, Teamviewer and Google Maps. Surprisingly, games do not get the phone hot. I have tried both the German and Hong Kong Xperia 5 IIIs. Same for both.

DanielMode said:
i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??
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Sounds like typical Sony's quality control issue to me.

right right
trying to root my device since yesterday....restarted many times flashing FW switching from Fastboot to Flashmode back and force and my phone did't even gets worm

DanielMode said:
right right
trying to root my device since yesterday....restarted many times flashing FW switching from Fastboot to Flashmode back and force and my phone did't even gets worm
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Can say the same. Many reboots, fastboot, flashmode and back and my Phone is "cold".
Had never a Problem with hot or warm device

And still, having to root and disable a core or something isn't a solution I'm content with. Especially because the 5 II didn't have those problems. I understand they do this to preserve the battery but honestly it didn't really matter with my old phone and I used it a lot when it was hot.
I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.

mine got super hot in like 5 min of instagram or youtube vids. It also tends to get hot and throttle a bit on music playback, i'm starting to assume that is not normal

I haven't noticed any of those with my 5III. It has behaved like my 5II for the last 6 months. Only issue I've had with heat is if I'm shooting a lot of 4k video with the CinePro app in the direct sunlight in the Texas summer.

Only gets hot when streaming.
Besides that, Ive never seen the hot temps message pop up.