I'm new to xda, so I couldn't ask in the dev forums... I been using Carbon rom, but they recently updated to a CM base for the rom, so w/o the CAF patch it doesn't support AOSP kernels nor ART cache. I tried their latest nightly w/ ART, it wasn't pretty; however, I did not try the caf patch, then aosp kernel, then art. In theory, should that combination get ART to work on a CM based rom? Or am I barking up the wrong tree on this one? I know it's a very specific question, but I been kinda bummed b/c I can't update the rom since I refuse to go back to dalvik, and CM don't support ART. Ever since they updated the rom (since 8/28.. they're on build 8/31 now), I been sticking with the 8/24 build! (their last AOSP based build) Any leads would be a big help. Thank you!
ART should work on a cm ROM. When they say they don't support it, they mean its a Google experimental feature so they cannot help you if you have problems with ART.
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I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?
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I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?
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you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit
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you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit
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Well the CAF thread suggests this order: Clean flash of cm rom, flash the caf patch, then flash the desired aosp kernel. As far as art goes, aosp roms boot right up w/o problems in art. I don't know if that's because those roms are built on aosp from the ground up, or if it's because of the aosp kernel. I'm wondering if the cm rom that allows aosp kernels with the patch will also allow art to run smoothly. Again, I tried the new nightly (CM based) w/o the patch/ aosp kernel on art and it was buggy as all hell. Others are saying that the build is working well w/ caf patch and aosp kernel... but that still leaves the question: is that on dalvik only? If I turn on art with those three combined will art be good to go? I'm trying to see if anyone knows if it's purely a kernel thing that makes it compatible with art, before investing a ton of time with a clean flash, reinstalling all apps, and trying them one by one only to be disappointed by bugs and having to stick with the 8/24 build anyway. (that was their last aosp build for that rom)
ART works fine, either stock, aosp, or cm based. running aosp kernels on cm or cm kernels on aosp is a no no. you are asking for a long list of issues. and running the patch on an aosp kernel with cm does not guarantee that there wont be issues.
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PUREGANDROID
About
PUREGANDROID ( Pure Google Android) is a pure android os as google intended.
It uses a CM7 base but most if not all CM7 is removed. This is my first rom and I could not remove all CM7 but I will remove more in the Future (cyanogenmod in setting ( Please I need some help on this) and the RenderFX widget( can't locate it)
UPDATE:
I have posted a beta to see if you guys like it it was built from CM and AOSP sources. I just have to compile kernel and change lockscreen.
NEW WEBSITE
macaddict.tk
DOWNLOAD
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27168952/DOWNLOADS/PURG3.oBETA.zip
HOW TO FLASH
*USE CWR
1. wipe all user data
2. wipe cache
3. install from SDCARD
4. Select rom
5 reboot
About:
Uses Google stock launcher
Includes all google apps
Has North America GPS FIX
Uses a CM7 Kernel (for it to be stable)
Wants in Future
Ablsolutly no CM7
pure google
overclock to 1.5 or 1.8
Changes in 2.2
New aosp settings menu and more cygen removed
Lockscreen still needs editing
NOTICE
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR LOSS OF DATA OR AND DAMAGES.
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PUREGANDROID
About
PUREGANDROID ( Pure Google Android) is a pure android os as google intended.
It uses a CM7 base but most if not all CM7 is removed. This is my first rom and I could not remove all CM7 but I will remove more in the Future (cyanogenmod in setting ( Please I need some help on this) and the RenderFX widget( can't locate it)
UPDATE:
I have posted a beta to see if you guys like it it was built from CM and AOSP sources. I just have to compile kernel and change lockscreen.
NEW WEBSITE
macaddict.tk
DOWNLOAD
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27168952/DOWNLOADS/PURG3.oBETA.zip
HOW TO FLASH
*USE CWR
1. wipe all user data
2. wipe cache
3. install from SDCARD
4. Select rom
5 reboot
About:
Uses Google stock launcher
Includes all google apps
Has North America GPS FIX
Uses a CM7 Kernel (for it to be stable)
Wants in Future
Ablsolutly no CM7
pure google
overclock to 1.5 or 1.8
Changes in 2.2
New aosp settings menu and more cygen removed
Lockscreen still needs editing
NOTICE
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR LOSS OF DATA OR AND DAMAGES.
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Check your pm nerd!
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Screenshots?
How does this differ from GingerBeast?
Read in Gingerbeasts thread somewhere (running it for three awesome days) and Dilli stated something along the lines that since gtx had put out Inspired AOSP (or working on it?) He did actually do a couple of things differently ala H icons, etc... and hinted that having two identical AOSP ROMS would have been dull and competitive or pointless or something. Since gtx isn't keeping up with his rom anymore (so it read?) This could be ok right? Would like to try the stable version, or is it?
I started flashing a sense rom again last night and almost immediately during setup scrapped it forb my NAN backup. I can get different results from seemingly identical roms.
MyPocketWizard
gtalum said:
FWIW, I'm not trying to be negative. I honestly want to know what differences there will be between GingerBeast (which I currently run and love) and PUREGANDROID. if there are some substantive differences I'd like to give it a try.
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This is a CM7 base with various bits removed. Gingerbeast is a proper AOSP base with bits of CM7 added in. That's the major difference at least.
dyliho said:
Read in Gingerbeasts thread somewhere (running it for three awesome days) and Dilli stated something along the lines that since gtx had put out Inspired AOSP (or working on it?) He did actually do a couple of things differently ala H icons, etc... and hinted that having two identical AOSP ROMS would have been dull and competitive or pointless or something. Since gtx isn't keeping up with his rom anymore (so it read?) This could be ok right? Would like to try the stable version, or is it?
I started flashing a sense rom again last night and almost immediately during setup scrapped it forb my NAN backup. I can get different results from seemingly identical roms.
MyPocketWizard
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Wish we had a pure aosp rom T_T
Gtx had the best one and its gone
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If you look I came before Gingerbeast
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If you look I came before Gingerbeast
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You talking about that post that was a chop and hack of Cm7?
I had a second post. With one built from CM source. This one is built from AOSP source with make files and framework files from CM.
I am working toward a more AOSP base. Building my own kernel, using image files from
AOSP, using AOSP programs. He Is just using a modified CM7.
This is an AOSP base actually.
sure just use the search funtion at the top of page and type PureGandroid 1.1
By beta I mean not all of the stuff I want in this version is there. The ROM is completely stable and ready for use. I just didn't remove and add all the things I wanted in this version
I am trying to get there but its very slow for me to do this. My co compiler John Weyrauch hasn't been online lately and we have had little progress the past 2 weeks
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I am working toward a more AOSP base. Building my own kernel, using image files from
AOSP, using AOSP programs. He Is just using a modified CM7.
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what exactly do you think i did?
took a pre-compiled cm7 rom and modified it?. if im just using a modified cm7, what are you doing?
gingerbeast is built and compiled from aosp and cm7. both were cloned, some cm stuff was removed, aosp added. look in your /system/etc-
CHANGELOG-CM.txt
init.d- all cm init scripts
/system/bin-
backuptool.sh- cyanogen script
modelid_cfg.sh- cyanogen script
verify_cache_partition_size.sh- cyanogen script
-your default wallpaper is attached
what im saying is- dont act like your rom is pure aosp and then say mine is just a modified cm7.
like i said in my thread- as i go more and more cm is removed, and a lot already has- IE theme engine, i have the froyo lockscreen back(will make it in next update), etc- plus i added some of my own stuff to framework/ base. my kernel has some important tweaks(to me anyway- not sure why cm hasnt updated jhash to lookup3 in their kernel yet) that help with efficiency/speed that cm, nor any other kernel for the dhd inspire have
im not saying what your doing is a bad thing, its EXACTLY what i did. most users dont give 2 sh!ts what the base is- if they like how aosp looks, its fast and good on battery and bug free thats all that matters. (cyanogen base for the inspire is very good and pretty much bug free, which is exactly why i chose to use it- and i dont have the time for a 100% aosp rom made from scratch especially when that is readily available)
btw- its usually nice to put a credit in the OP for what you used of other peoples that helped you out. just to show appreciation for work done that benefited you.
By modified I meant using a hybrid that has modified files for Wallpapers, icons, etc. I am trying to create a non tweaked kernel with Google Apps included, and only opensource software in it (except for GAPPS).
I meant nothing against you or your rom also would it be ok if I extracted the lockscreen from your rom to use on mine?
My apps are aosp, icons aosp, wallpapers and sounds are from nexus s- which is technically aosp.
Everything is opensource
Yes you can use the lockscreen, but like I said it wont be included until next update, so you'll have to wait. It should be soon though
thank you. Would you be interested in making a 100% pure rom? I can compile most of it on my Mac Pro. I just need some help debugging some of the errors while compiling?
I've been here for a week or two... Just long enough to know how funny this is...
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Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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For TW 4.1.2 is the most current, but developers are working on 4.3. Otherwise, I would flash an AOSP ROM & I've had good luck on those too.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
HOWEVER... every custom rom has issues with a 'kill signal' with Bluetooth, so if you use BT, you need to make sure you power down the other device, before you try to turn off BT on your phone; that will send the signal to your device and unpair the two. Otherwise, your phone won't be able to reconnect to BT on that device and you'll have to reboot. It's a known bug and people are working on it.
I used Gummy all December and now I'm running SlimKat... they're stable for daily use. I'd recommend a custom kernel with Slim, though... I'm using Lean Kernel.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Take a look at this it was just released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
beepea206 said:
Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
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Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
lexluthor said:
Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
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Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
beepea206 said:
Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
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That's a reasonable explanation. I'm on CM11 official nightly. I usually read the changelog before I update. I did do a full wipe before updating originally and I've been running very well. I've had 1 random boot in about a week and the camera froze the system once. I had many more random reboots on TW. It's incredibly fast and I've got no lag (that was a bad problem for me on 4.1.2).
Nice one... checking the changelog and/or Gerrit commits is a good practice, IMO. I only flash a nightlie if I find some commits I think would make the rom run better for me... most are small things like language tweaks and updates to other device repos, so flashing the newest version isn't always necessary.
Regarding the random reboots, you probably have the same modem issue I do. There was a recent update to the device RILs that completely resolved the modem 'freakout' i kept having; I believe they used the updated device files from the 4.3 stock builds pushed out, so it made the device more compatible with the 4.3 and 4.4 roms.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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if you like touchwiz, MOAR and Wicked Sensations roms (4.1.2) are pretty good. I'm on cm10.2 (4.3.1) with xposed framework and it's running perfectly. I'm staying away from kitkat cause of all the bluetooth issues.
Hello,
As title says, What are the roms tweaked for ART?
I'm using this virtual machine from the first day i had my N5, but dunno how many (if there is any) roms have tweaks for it. Thank you
no such rom exists, nor are there any special ART tweaks.
OK, let me put it another way...it's a good question
Are the ROMs that don't do well with ART...or particular apps that should be avoided?
thanks,
p-d
simms22 said:
no such rom exists, nor are there any special ART tweaks.
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There is, check the rom sources and for a bunch of roms, there is some improvement for ART (AOSP), take a look on Github...
prairie-dad said:
Are the ROMs that don't do well with ART...or particular apps that should be avoided?
thanks,
p-d
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None, not really, as far as I know, well avoid CM nightlies and CM based rom for example, they broke ART in the previous nightly... but it's a "nightly" issue :laugh:, so in general fixed in the next builds...
Check the OP of each rom threads and the last pages for feedbacks, go for a stable build and you will not have ART issue.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
There is, check the rom sources and for a bunch of roms, there is some improvement for ART (AOSP), take a look on Github...
None, not really, as far as I know, well avoid CM nightlies and CM based rom for example, they broke ART in the previous nightly... but it's a "nightly" issue :laugh:, so in general fixed in the next builds...
Check the OP of each rom threads and the last pages for feedbacks, go for a stable build and you will not have ART issue.
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also, there are the bionic patches(i forgot) that help improve performance while on art.
simms22 said:
also, there are the bionic patches(i forgot) that help improve performance while on art.
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I don't speak about patches, I speak about ART improvement from source (what you stated there is not a rom with ART improvement, false there is a bunch of AOSP roms with a bunch of commits for ART, so with some improvements for sure, or I agree, without sometimes, but there is still some new stuff). Again take a look in the sources...
The Bionic patch helps also with Dalvik runtime. Here in this thread, we are not talking about Dalvik and Bionic patches.
Liscio or Pure White Roms
Both the Liscio and the Pure White ROM have great art support, meaning whatever apps are bundled with it and whatever mods they have are tested and confirmed working with art runtime. I'm personally using Pure White ROM right now , because the ui is all White no more traces of holo. I'm using the odexed version with trinity b10 kernel, latest adreno drivers, speaker/headset booster mod, SuperSU 1.94, the camera mod 1.5 w/mic fix, and everything is working flawlessly on art ! Cold boot in 13seconds
Great on battery life too thanks to it being mostly stock ROM, with trinity kernel, -100mv on all frequencies up too 2.49ghz
Paranoid android do not support ART but it is rock solid and stable running ART is really a matter of which rom suits your needs best
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Have been using paranoid android on Art for 2 months now with no problems.
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I'm using the Virtuous Inquisition rom with android 4.0.3. if I go to a rom with 4.3 or 4.4 will performance increase or decrease? also, can I keep my settings and apps or do I have to start fresh?
thanks.
You will need to full wipe and reinstall everything again.
I've never used Virtuous Inquisition, so I don't know about performance, but latest 4.4 roms we have are really smooth. If you want to test, just make a backup of your current setup, then install any new. If you don't like it you can always restore to your old setup.
Though since most roms we have are based on cyanogenmod, most of them have a bug at the moment causing the system to freeze or maybe restart. Only 4.4 rom (which I know) which isn't affected by that is omnirom.
Sajito said:
You will need to full wipe and reinstall everything again.
I've never used Virtuous Inquisition, so I don't know about performance, but latest 4.4 roms we have are really smooth. If you want to test, just make a backup of your current setup, then install any new. If you don't like it you can always restore to your old setup.
Though since most roms we have are based on cyanogenmod, most of them have a bug at the moment causing the system to freeze or maybe restart. Only 4.4 rom (which I know) which isn't affected by that is omnirom.
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thanks. i may try that rom then since I need stability. why dont other roms like this one mention freezing under the bugs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073
Gabe3 said:
thanks. i may try that rom then since I need stability. why dont other roms like this one mention freezing under the bugs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073
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It's an upstream bug from cyanogenmod itself and I think they list mostly bugs which they can fix. We still hope that cm is going to fix that soon.
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It's an upstream bug from cyanogenmod itself and I think they list mostly bugs which they can fix. We still hope that cm is going to fix that soon.
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how does omnirom compare to cyanogenmod besides the freezing bug. is one faster than the other? why would anyone use cm over omnirom? thanks.
Gabe3 said:
how does omnirom compare to cyanogenmod besides the freezing bug. is one faster than the other? why would anyone use cm over omnirom? thanks.
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Well both are based on aosp, so I don't think there is a big difference in performance. Cyanogenmod has more settings than omnirom, but I think differences are not that big. There are some settings only the one rom or the other has, so I think you should just try.
I am looking to see if there is a build of CM11S without gapps pre added to the rom so that I can use the customizable GAPPS package to remove unwanted app packages such as TTS, talkback, quickoffice, soundsearch, play movies, play games and so on.
You could download the recovery flashable version of the CM11S build from CM directly and delete the files prior to flashing. Just be aware you won't be able to do the OTA updates moving forward as you need a full image to do so
Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
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Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
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Yep, that's correct. OTA updates require a full, untouched system image otherwise the update will fail
wow might as well just go to CM11 and forget CM11S altogether in that case.
+1 to what Eddy said. Doing any modifications to /system/ will cause problems when it comes to updating to the next OTA. So your best chance would be to use CM11 or any other custom ROM with the gapps of your choice.
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
pyrocide said:
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
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You can use CM11 (or any other ROM that uses a CM base) and have the CM11S features such as lock screen, camera (available as a apk standalone, doesnt matter what ROM you use), AudioFX (same.. available as a apk).
I'd probably recommend crDroid if you plan to stick to the CM base. Gets updated weekly or so and is based off CM11 without too many additions.
@bp328i did a great job at making a zip of all the CM11S apps that work with crDroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55654697&postcount=132
crDroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-crdroid-kitkat-4-4-4-t2880851
Not sure whether or not bp used the stock lock screen but attached is the gradient lock screen. Looks better than the stock lock screen (search for what it looks like).
Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
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Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
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Both.
Additional features are made by kernel-by-basis. I can go detail-by-detail on what features but its better off not to since you'll be confused.
The biggest fix would be touchscreen as it has a new touchscreen firmware that fixes ghost swipes.
What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
pyrocide said:
What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
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I don't use CM11S so I can't tell you for sure.
Popular kernels are ak or franco kernel. I personally use Franco Kernel.
Think Im gonna go for CM11 nightlies after looking at Madhi, crDroid and a few others. I just like CM11 for my HTC One S.
For Franco's kernel would I be using the CM11S or AOSP if flashing CM11 nightly? Since CM11s is just a custom version of CM11 i wasnt sure.
nvm found it finally from G+ thread, AOSP