Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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For TW 4.1.2 is the most current, but developers are working on 4.3. Otherwise, I would flash an AOSP ROM & I've had good luck on those too.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
HOWEVER... every custom rom has issues with a 'kill signal' with Bluetooth, so if you use BT, you need to make sure you power down the other device, before you try to turn off BT on your phone; that will send the signal to your device and unpair the two. Otherwise, your phone won't be able to reconnect to BT on that device and you'll have to reboot. It's a known bug and people are working on it.
I used Gummy all December and now I'm running SlimKat... they're stable for daily use. I'd recommend a custom kernel with Slim, though... I'm using Lean Kernel.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Take a look at this it was just released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
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Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
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Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
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Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
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Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
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That's a reasonable explanation. I'm on CM11 official nightly. I usually read the changelog before I update. I did do a full wipe before updating originally and I've been running very well. I've had 1 random boot in about a week and the camera froze the system once. I had many more random reboots on TW. It's incredibly fast and I've got no lag (that was a bad problem for me on 4.1.2).
Nice one... checking the changelog and/or Gerrit commits is a good practice, IMO. I only flash a nightlie if I find some commits I think would make the rom run better for me... most are small things like language tweaks and updates to other device repos, so flashing the newest version isn't always necessary.
Regarding the random reboots, you probably have the same modem issue I do. There was a recent update to the device RILs that completely resolved the modem 'freakout' i kept having; I believe they used the updated device files from the 4.3 stock builds pushed out, so it made the device more compatible with the 4.3 and 4.4 roms.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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if you like touchwiz, MOAR and Wicked Sensations roms (4.1.2) are pretty good. I'm on cm10.2 (4.3.1) with xposed framework and it's running perfectly. I'm staying away from kitkat cause of all the bluetooth issues.
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Hi everyone, just got this phone and I'm playing with it before transitioning it as my day to day device. Thanks for the wealth of info here. I odin'ed the stock JB image. I have two questions please:
1-i disabled most of the bloatware (as in the list published here) Theough JB app settings menu. Besides the memory gained, is there any advantage in rooting and removing the apps, or just loading the nice debloated rom that circulates here?
2-my first option would be vanilla JB, i hate touchwiz. CM looks very nice, but is there a real advantage over debloated stock? In performance, battery, etc.? Is 4.3 much better than 4.1?
Thanks!
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Hi everyone, just got this phone and I'm playing with it before transitioning it as my day to day device. Thanks for the wealth of info here. I odin'ed the stock JB image. I have two questions please:
1-i disabled most of the bloatware (as in the list published here) Theough JB app settings menu. Besides the memory gained, is there any advantage in rooting and removing the apps, or just loading the nice debloated rom that circulates here?
2-my first option would be vanilla JB, i hate touchwiz. CM looks very nice, but is there a real advantage over debloated stock? In performance, battery, etc.? Is 4.3 much better than 4.1?
Thanks!
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cm10.2 is sitll in nightly stage - may be buggy and may be unstable (but may also work well without issues)
debloated stock is rather stable - in my experience at least
i have rooted and debloated (manually with titanium backup) stock jb, i will wait for stable cm
The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/
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The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/
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Thanks, will definetely give this a try over the weekend. Any specific date to download or just the latest?
The only thing I'm worried about is upgrdes: if I install my programs, preferences, settings, are they overwritten when you install a new CM distro?
Generally you can flash cm over cm with no effects on your installed programs.
Going from stock to cm is a different matter though
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The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/
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I hear you! I feel like I have a new phone. Stock seems like a 2011 phone. Excellent work, thanks - worth every step.
Just two quick questions:
1-i was rooted/i had superuser in my stock. I lost that with cm i guess. Sholud i re flash SU with cwm or is there a simple way?
2-also, i was sim unlocked. Is this still there in my phone?
Thanks again!!
Super user is included in cm see settings. If it doesn't work you can flash a su program with cwm.
Sim unlock should be permanent
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Generally you can flash cm over cm with no effects on your installed programs.
Going from stock to cm is a different matter though
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What about if you're flashing from a much earlier CM?
Like back when it was the 3.0 kernel in May?
So I'm trying to prolong the use of this tablet but keep it stable and quick, and I think CyanogenMod is the way to go. There are a number of versions available for it, with 10.0 being the last stable build that I can find. I flashed 10.0 and it was quick and stable, except for one major problem: the Google+ app just would not load no matter what, and by searching I found others had the same issues with no fix.
So I'm back to stock 4.1.2 JB now, which is fine but I'd rather move to CM if I can. I flashed the latest nightly, but was having major issues with Gapps closing and the Play Store wasn't even available (even though I flashed the correct Gapps package).
For those that are using CM, which version is the best to use? Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
Honestly, I use the CM11 builds and they are working great.
XOOM XOOM!
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So I'm trying to prolong the use of this tablet but keep it stable and quick, and I think CyanogenMod is the way to go. There are a number of versions available for it, with 10.0 being the last stable build that I can find. I flashed 10.0 and it was quick and stable, except for one major problem: the Google+ app just would not load no matter what, and by searching I found others had the same issues with no fix.
So I'm back to stock 4.1.2 JB now, which is fine but I'd rather move to CM if I can. I flashed the latest nightly, but was having major issues with Gapps closing and the Play Store wasn't even available (even though I flashed the correct Gapps package).
For those that are using CM, which version is the best to use? Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
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CM10.1 (based on 4.2.x) really great. I used it for the past few months.
Never give me problem. Of course you must install 2/20/13 JB Unified GApps.
Looking forward to try CM11 but having hard time with TWRP (big part) at the moment.
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Honestly, I use the CM11 builds and they are working great.
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Another vote for CM11, but you do have to install BigPart. That isn't a big deal if you read carefully through the resource thread before proceeding. I'm certainly not a tech wizard (color TV and phones without dials were big deals when I was a kid, VCRs didn't come out until I was in college, and I was in my mid twenties when home computers just started to become widespread) and was able to run BigPart without trouble.
I got BigPart working successfully with no problems on the first go. Merely requires some reading and should work fine.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!
Hi !
I have a few questions:
- If I flash this unofficial rom, will it be possible to have official updates without flashing another rom ?
- And also, is it already good for everyday use ?
Thanks !
Atlantic_Rim said:
Hi !
I have a few questions:
- If I flash this unofficial rom, will it be possible to have official updates without flashing another rom ?
- And also, is it already good for everyday use ?
Thanks !
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- nope, you won't get official updates.
- it depends on your needs, check the bug list, if it does not bother you then it is okay for your daily use!
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i_rnb said:
- nope, you won't get official updates.
- it depends on your needs, check the bug list, if it does not bother you then it is okay for your daily use!
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Ok thanks for reply !
Then I think I will wait for the official release, because I want a fully functional version for my moto G
Iv just finally been able to flash it, been on the latest rom for two days, bugs for me are youtube freezing and the lockscreen unlock, which actually isnt that bad, u wont need latest official release because this rom will always be up to date and when the phone gets abandoned, people like dhacker are hero's for us because they'll keep our phone updated
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will8578 said:
Iv just finally been able to flash it, been on the latest rom for two days, bugs for me are youtube freezing and the lockscreen unlock, which actually isnt that bad, u wont need latest official release because this rom will always be up to date and when the phone gets abandoned, people like dhacker are hero's for us because they'll keep our phone updated
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Yes I know the great job devs are doing for us before the moto G I had a LG optimus L7 and thanks to cyanogenmod I had kitkat on it.
But as far as this phone just came out, I'm asking myself if it's good to avoid my warranty just to have the same version of android ...
(correct me if I say bad words because I have to train my english :laugh: )
Battery life has been better for me and customization, i think im just happy to flash a different rom, been trying for about 2 weeks, or failing more like, ur english is good, good luck to u
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will8578 said:
Battery life has been better for me and customization, i think im just happy to flash a different rom, been trying for about 2 weeks, or failing more like, ur english is good, good luck to u
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Thanks
i_rnb said:
- nope, you won't get official updates.
- it depends on your needs, check the bug list, if it does not bother you then it is okay for your daily use!
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Wrong. With CMUpdater, if you're running an unofficial build, the nightlies (when they appear) will show up. Even if they don't, you most definitely will be able to manually flash the nightlies without wiping.
The one exception will be if you want to switch to the new "corporate" release streams from Cyngn if those ever get turned on for the device. Those will require a wipe - but official nightlies won't.
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Wrong. With CMUpdater, if you're running an unofficial build, the nightlies (when they appear) will show up. Even if they don't, you most definitely will be able to manually flash the nightlies without wiping.
The one exception will be if you want to switch to the new "corporate" release streams from Cyngn if those ever get turned on for the device. Those will require a wipe - but official nightlies won't.
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I am fully aware for that, but I thought he meant Motorola's official stock updates, not CM's official nightlies.
But still, it is risky to flash official nightly updates on an unofficial build.
Anyway, I might be wrong, I came from a device which did not have a official CM build.
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I am fully aware for that, but I thought he meant Motorola's official stock updates, not CM's official nightlies.
But still, it is risky to flash official nightly updates on an unofficial build.
Anyway, I might be wrong, I came from a device which did not have a official CM build.
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There could be risks if you flash an unofficial build from someone who is not at all working on merging a device into CM - they often cherry pick all sort of stuff that causes incompatibilities with upstream to the point where the product really shouldn't be called CM. (I've seen lots of "CM" kangs that had all sorts of extra crap added beyond just doing what is required for device bringup...)
dhacker, however, is an official CM maintainer for many devices, so his builds are the ones that are "on track" for official inclusion.
OK, and I've a few questions again :
If I flash updates directly from CM updater, is it like official updates from Motorola ? I won't lose all my data ?
Because I don't want to lose everything every time a new release come out
U dont lose data, only if u do a factory reset, i do a cache and dalvick wipe, never had any problems doing that
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will8578 said:
U dont lose data, only if u do a factory reset, i do a cache and dalvick wipe, never had any problems doing that
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OK thanks, then I think I will flash the unofficial ROM when I have time
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OK, and I've a few questions again :
If I flash updates directly from CM updater, is it like official updates from Motorola ? I won't lose all my data ?
Because I don't want to lose everything every time a new release come out
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If people had to wipe every time they flashed an updated, nightlies wouldn't be as popular as they are now.
In general:
1) If you're coming from another project (CM to Omni or vice versa, or any of those to/from stock) you'll need to wipe. Titanium Backup and/or even Androids 'adb backup' can save a lot of time here
2) If you're coming from a previous version of the same project (An unofficial CM build to official nightlies, and subsequent nightlies) you should only have to wipe if someone screwed up
2b) You can usually even do version upgrades this way - e.g. CM10.2 to CM11, although of course this device never saw 10.2 except possibly some super-pre-alpha builds
One exception you may see down the line - with the formation of Cyanogen Inc (aka Cyngn), there are now two release streams. The Community stream (classic nightlies and such) and the "Pro" or "Cyngn" or whatever it's called now release stream. The most obvious example of this right now is CM10.2 on the Oppo N1 - you can't transition between this and community builds without wiping to my knowledge. It's not a big issue now but might be something you need to watch out for in the future.
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If people had to wipe every time they flashed an updated, nightlies wouldn't be as popular as they are now.
In general:
1) If you're coming from another project (CM to Omni or vice versa, or any of those to/from stock) you'll need to wipe. Titanium Backup and/or even Androids 'adb backup' can save a lot of time here
2) If you're coming from a previous version of the same project (An unofficial CM build to official nightlies, and subsequent nightlies) you should only have to wipe if someone screwed up
2b) You can usually even do version upgrades this way - e.g. CM10.2 to CM11, although of course this device never saw 10.2 except possibly some super-pre-alpha builds
One exception you may see down the line - with the formation of Cyanogen Inc (aka Cyngn), there are now two release streams. The Community stream (classic nightlies and such) and the "Pro" or "Cyngn" or whatever it's called now release stream. The most obvious example of this right now is CM10.2 on the Oppo N1 - you can't transition between this and community builds without wiping to my knowledge. It's not a big issue now but might be something you need to watch out for in the future.
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Ok thanks for the informations ! After one hour of intense fighting with my computer, I finally unlocked bootloader, rooted, and flashed cyanogenmod I prefer this rom to the stock one, I find it more smooth, and more costumization
i think its ok for daily use. At least i use it everyday.
I posted this question in a couple other places, but no reply.
I have the GPE version of the Moto G, and I want to run the CM11 builds on it.
Will the fact that the GPE version has the ext4 fs on it prevent me from getting these to work?
I know there are recoveries available specifically for the GPE, but will getting the CM11 builds to work be just a matter of changing a few entries in fstab?
And finally, do either of the recoveries allow you ro format /data from either f2fs to ext4 or the other way around?
Thanks/
I've replaced stock Rom (4.4.2 US Global Version) for unofficial CM11 (2014-02-16's release) and for now CM works more stable than stock.
I had few reboots or issue with .flac, in CM's everything is OK, for now of course. Very good stuff even that is only nightly's release.
I'm using the Virtuous Inquisition rom with android 4.0.3. if I go to a rom with 4.3 or 4.4 will performance increase or decrease? also, can I keep my settings and apps or do I have to start fresh?
thanks.
You will need to full wipe and reinstall everything again.
I've never used Virtuous Inquisition, so I don't know about performance, but latest 4.4 roms we have are really smooth. If you want to test, just make a backup of your current setup, then install any new. If you don't like it you can always restore to your old setup.
Though since most roms we have are based on cyanogenmod, most of them have a bug at the moment causing the system to freeze or maybe restart. Only 4.4 rom (which I know) which isn't affected by that is omnirom.
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You will need to full wipe and reinstall everything again.
I've never used Virtuous Inquisition, so I don't know about performance, but latest 4.4 roms we have are really smooth. If you want to test, just make a backup of your current setup, then install any new. If you don't like it you can always restore to your old setup.
Though since most roms we have are based on cyanogenmod, most of them have a bug at the moment causing the system to freeze or maybe restart. Only 4.4 rom (which I know) which isn't affected by that is omnirom.
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thanks. i may try that rom then since I need stability. why dont other roms like this one mention freezing under the bugs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073
Gabe3 said:
thanks. i may try that rom then since I need stability. why dont other roms like this one mention freezing under the bugs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073
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It's an upstream bug from cyanogenmod itself and I think they list mostly bugs which they can fix. We still hope that cm is going to fix that soon.
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It's an upstream bug from cyanogenmod itself and I think they list mostly bugs which they can fix. We still hope that cm is going to fix that soon.
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how does omnirom compare to cyanogenmod besides the freezing bug. is one faster than the other? why would anyone use cm over omnirom? thanks.
Gabe3 said:
how does omnirom compare to cyanogenmod besides the freezing bug. is one faster than the other? why would anyone use cm over omnirom? thanks.
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Well both are based on aosp, so I don't think there is a big difference in performance. Cyanogenmod has more settings than omnirom, but I think differences are not that big. There are some settings only the one rom or the other has, so I think you should just try.
I am looking to see if there is a build of CM11S without gapps pre added to the rom so that I can use the customizable GAPPS package to remove unwanted app packages such as TTS, talkback, quickoffice, soundsearch, play movies, play games and so on.
You could download the recovery flashable version of the CM11S build from CM directly and delete the files prior to flashing. Just be aware you won't be able to do the OTA updates moving forward as you need a full image to do so
Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
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Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
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Yep, that's correct. OTA updates require a full, untouched system image otherwise the update will fail
wow might as well just go to CM11 and forget CM11S altogether in that case.
+1 to what Eddy said. Doing any modifications to /system/ will cause problems when it comes to updating to the next OTA. So your best chance would be to use CM11 or any other custom ROM with the gapps of your choice.
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
pyrocide said:
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
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You can use CM11 (or any other ROM that uses a CM base) and have the CM11S features such as lock screen, camera (available as a apk standalone, doesnt matter what ROM you use), AudioFX (same.. available as a apk).
I'd probably recommend crDroid if you plan to stick to the CM base. Gets updated weekly or so and is based off CM11 without too many additions.
@bp328i did a great job at making a zip of all the CM11S apps that work with crDroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55654697&postcount=132
crDroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-crdroid-kitkat-4-4-4-t2880851
Not sure whether or not bp used the stock lock screen but attached is the gradient lock screen. Looks better than the stock lock screen (search for what it looks like).
Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
pyrocide said:
Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
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Both.
Additional features are made by kernel-by-basis. I can go detail-by-detail on what features but its better off not to since you'll be confused.
The biggest fix would be touchscreen as it has a new touchscreen firmware that fixes ghost swipes.
What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
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What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
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I don't use CM11S so I can't tell you for sure.
Popular kernels are ak or franco kernel. I personally use Franco Kernel.
Think Im gonna go for CM11 nightlies after looking at Madhi, crDroid and a few others. I just like CM11 for my HTC One S.
For Franco's kernel would I be using the CM11S or AOSP if flashing CM11 nightly? Since CM11s is just a custom version of CM11 i wasnt sure.
nvm found it finally from G+ thread, AOSP